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Date Stamp:                  Digest #347		      Volume: 01
Thu Mar 13 00:20:12 CST 1997


CONTENTS

Interscope Records
Randomness...
yes, i am
new albums
Interview with the Faeries
Tori article from Charlotte's "Break"
No Cheese Gromit!
Baby Tori?
Dew drop inn

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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 12:54:40 -0500 (EST)
From: Jorge Fernandez <jferna03@fiu.edu>
Subject: Interscope Records


hey folks..
this is going to be short because i'm actually in Baltimore and loggin on
because i've been dragged to the computer lab by my evil girlfriend.

someone asked about Interscope Records....from what i remember, at first
Interscope was a very artist-oriented label. their artists really had a
lot of control over their product and there wasn't that huge cloud above
what you do. it's why Trent chose to go on Interscope after the whole TVT
fiasco. Death Row Records was also part of Interscope. then MCA i believe
came into the picture and started distributing the label. that's when the
problems with Death ROw started. finally, Death ROw ended their
association with Interscope and MCA got rid of the whole label. 

No Doubt and The Wallflowers are on Interscope, but what's really wrong
with that? The Wallflowers might be a little derivative, but their album
is really good. you get on Gwen's case, i'm going to hurt you.

on another note, as some of you may know, Biggy Smalls was killed over the
weekend. i've never known how to react to something like this. i felt a
lot of mixed emotion when 2Pac died. part of me respected him for being a
very skilled rapper with the voice of an r&b crooner, part of me despised
him for the message of 3/4 of his lyrics. part of me shook my head and
felt bad for him, part of me said "dumbfuck....he got himself into this."
as far as Notorious B.I.G. goes (for those who don't know, the two names
are pretty much interchangeable), here was one of the worst of the gangsta
rappers. someone i really had no respect for as an artist and with all the
millions still could not get himself out of some real stupid shit. should
i feel bad for him? i'm debating that right now...

anyways, i'm out. Aggie, i've driven by Towson at least 5-6 times already.
i figured i'd scream your name out from Townsontown Rd, but would you
really have heard me?

jorge


         |-o-|                                       (-o-)
  (-o-)                     Jorge Fernandez                       
            |-o-|       Fla. International Univ.            |-o-|
|-o-|                         Miami, Fl.                |-o-|
   |-o-|           
                                                          (-o-)


back by popular demand...

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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 13:34:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Antigone <GR95289771@WESLEY.IT.EMERSON.EDU>
Subject: Randomness...

First of all, did Ani do Purple Rain?  Or did she do When Doves Cry? :)

Second, I have a copy of the wav for Live to Tell at my other email address -
Antigone19@aol.com.  It is NOT the complete song, it is a 30 second wav
that takes a good half hour to download.  If you want it, email me there
AFTER THE 17TH.  PLEASE WAIT UNTIL MARCH 17.  AGAIN I REPEAT WAIT UNTIL
MARCH 17.  I'm going away to Florida (to meet a dear online friend of 2 years)
and won't be able to access email and do NOT want an overflowing emailbox.
But if you WAIT, I'll forward it to you.  I promise.  (I think I may even
have to say I will delete any requests received before the 17th, OK?)

So like I said, I'm going to meet my dearest darling friend Wendy, who i've
never met before.  I am bouncing with excitement - and to leave MA for FL
at this time of year...wooooooooo!

So please don't write me email for a week, OK?  Thats all...oh but there is
a new RDT in my mailbox...maybe more later?
Marlantigone :)

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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:53:01 -0600 (CST)
From: "Dr. Sandbo" <njbarano@artsci.wustl.edu>
Subject: yes, i am

If you haven't gotten the new Spin magazine yet, please do so...and look
at the letters column...that's me :)  
I'm so happy, I always wanted to write for spin,
--NB
"You're free to be anything you want to be, go ahead and step on me"--The
Cardigans
"I had a really bad dream, it lasted 18 years, 9 months and 3
days."--Paraphrased from the Smiths
Erasirhed@aol.com
njbarano@artsci.wustl.edu

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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:43:34 -0600 (CST)
From: "Dr. Sandbo" <njbarano@artsci.wustl.edu>
Subject: new albums

OK, the new Ben Folds 5 is nowhere near as good as the first one.  Too
many slow songs.  Still, I think that "Song for the Dumped" is a classic,
along with "Kate" and "The Battle of Who Could Care Less", which is both
the Underground and Jackson Cannery of this album.  The bonus track is
pretty funny too.  I won't be buying it till it hits the used
bins...that's what radio is for :)

New Blur is incredible, though.  Very different from just about anything
I've ever heard before, kinda lo-fi and...sideways seems to be the right
word for it.  This will be the album that kills the Oases and Kula Shakers
of the world, I think.

New Shudder to think is good as is the new L7, and the new Gene makes me
lilt with joy.  

Get ready for new Ani Difranco and Matthew Sweet coming soon...yum.

--NB
"You're free to be anything you want to be, go ahead and step on me"--The
Cardigans
"I had a really bad dream, it lasted 18 years, 9 months and 3
days."--Paraphrased from the Smiths
Erasirhed@aol.com
njbarano@artsci.wustl.edu

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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 23:54:46 -0800
From: Beth Winegarner <bethw@sonic.net>
Subject: Interview with the Faeries

Maery asked: 
>just one more little thing, beth, how do you stay professional when
>interviewing someone like tori?  i am curious...

That's a good question and no "small thing." The thing is, though, I don't
KNOW how I do it. Usually when I interviews with people, I start out being
terribly nervous (my hands were shaking for about 5 minutes in the beginning
of the interview); on the other hand, I know I need to do a good job, and
that desire always wins out. Plus I know how stupid it'd be to blow a chance
like that to have a great talk with someone like Tori, so I force my
nervousness out and Get Down to Business, really. I don't know how... I just
do... 

Cathi asked:
> I had a question though- who started up Interscope 
>records?  For some reason, I thought it was partly Trent Reznor's doing, 
>but I dunno.  I had always thought that it was sortof the bastion for the 
>freaks of the music world- NIN (well, not that they are really freaks) 
>and a lot of gangsta rap (ok, they're not freaks either, I picked a bad 
>word).  However, I see that No Doubt and the Wallflowers (Jakob Dylan is 
>going to leave his wife for me, I just know it!) are signed to them.  So 
>what is up with that?  I thought that Interscope records was sortof 
>catering to the niche of people who weren't able to find a contract with 
>anyone else.  Can anyone help clear this up?

Well, I don't know who started Interscope, but you might remember it used to
be a subsidiary of Warner. The big honchos at Warner were about to force
Interscope to stop making records from all the rappers -- because they were
catching too much flak from groups like the PMRC -- and Interscope chose
instead to cut its ties. It's still considered a major label, but it's more
like an indie-major (I consider it a big indie). It has a couple of
subsidiaries: Nothing/TVT records, which is Trent Reznor's label, and Death
Row records, which is where a lot of that gangta rap comes from. Interscope
seems to grant a lot of artistic freedom to its clients, which is a really
cool thing. It just wants them to be themselves. And they might not be huge
sellers, but they have integrity. Which is cool.

Did that help answer your question? If you want I could probably give you
the # for the record company if you wanted to ask them anything more. :)

Richard wrote: 
>My dear friend, the fairy-knowledgeable Violet wrote to tell me that even
>though Tori was trying to make certain of the spelling of this Celtic
>word, it was *not* spelled properly in that article. 

Thanks to Violet for clearing that up. I, too, was moved to correct the
story but I never got around to griping about it. :) The other thing they
got wrong, although this is much more minor, is Tori's quoted as saying the
"other world," when what she probably said was "Otherworld."

I loved the article you quoted. In particular I wanted to comment on: 
>" If one more person brings up the faeries, I don't know
>what I'm gonna do," she says, referring to the dwarfish protagonists of
>some songs from earlier in her career. "It goes back to studying mythology
>and really getting fascinated with a race of people who were driven
>underground. They were called faeries in later lore, but they've become
>this whole caricature. This is difficult to explain to people, when all
>they can think about is Tinkerbell." 

It's good she tried to explain that. The Celtic people built these huge
burial chambers called passage graves (where you could actually walk in),
like Newgrange, and a lot of other burial mounds to honor their dead. It was
believed that the Tuatha de Danaan (the people of the Goddess Danu) were
driven underground when the Sons of Mil invaded Ireland. They lived in these
mounds, and there are tons of stories of people getting lured into the faery
dances, feasts, etc and never returning -- or returning hundreds of years
later, thinking only days have passed. The stories are actually very similar
to the kinds of things alien abductees are talking about now. Folks in
Ireland had a very strong regard for these spirits they referred to as
'faeries.' They were powerful beings and would surface in the physical world
on special days, walking along the straight faery paths in huge processions.
It was said that people who'd built their houses along these paths could run
into real trouble when the faeries found out they couldn't pass by (some
would open their front and back doors for the entire day, just to allow them
through)! Anyway, the so called "Little People" were said to be the result
of the Tuatha using their powers, growing smaller and smaller over time.
Once they were powerful spirits and today they're little pixies. Of course,
we know and Tori knows that they're just as powerful as ever. To those who
follow the Celtic ways these faeries are Gods and Goddesses, and
mythologically speaking they're responsible for some of the best-known
Celtic myths, most notably the Arthurian legends. 

There is, of course, a lot more to all this, more than can be gotten into a
post like this. Celtic mythology is fascinating, though, and I'd suggest
anyone who's interested should definitely look into the subject. 

After reading Tori's comments about music journalism, I feel a little
ashamed of myself! Oh, well... 

Um. Ok, I think I've gone on enough for now... :)

Beth


--
"When he remembered it now, Steve thought that it was not so much like
meeting a friend as like recognizing one."
(Poppy Z. Brite, "Lost Souls")

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From: Richard Handal <handal@access.digex.net>
Subject: Tori article from Charlotte's "Break"
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 06:26:48 -0500 (EST)

Greetings, Everyone: 

I've got the text here of a wonderful article from Charlotte, N.C. from
back in August. I scanned in both photos--which were darn nice--and sent
them in to the overworked Michael Whitehead, and he's now got them up on
his website. The color one from the cover of this weekly arts tabloid
called Break will be obvious to anyone with a graphics-based browser upon
going to Mike's start-up screen, or you can go directly to the article
with both of the photos at: 

http://www.aye.net/~mikewhy/charlotte.html

I also sent him the photo from the July Vancouver article I recently
posted, and you can find that at: 

http://www.aye.net/~mikewhy/vancouver.html

Thanks to Mike, as ever, for providing such an invaluable resource.
Without his help it wouldn't be nearly so simple for me to get such things
out to folks. Not to mention everything else his site does for us. 

Take care, everybody,

Richard Handal, H.G.

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Publication: Break (weekly arts magazine)   (ISSN: none that I could find)
Date: August 14, 1996               Page: 14, also cover photo
Article Type: Interview/profile     Writer: Lindsay Planer 
Publisher: Knight Publishing Company, Charlotte, N.C.
Photos: One full page color photo on cover of Tori playing the
   harpsichord, and a similar full page B&W one inside. Both photos taken
   by the art director for the publication Andrea Ross, seemingly from the 
   soundcheck photo op in Jackson, Mississippi on August 7, 1996. 

Cover Headline: Tori Amos On Stage: Unguarded And Riveting
Article headline: It's Best To Catch Her Live
                  Tori Amos to Perform at Ovens

The best way to experience Tori Amos isn't by repeated listenings to her
records--excellent though they are. The best way to experience Tori Amos
isn't by watching MTV in hopes of catching her latest video--that's if and
when they are actually playing music videos. No, the best way to
experience Tori is to share some physical space with her. Ask any of Amos'
immoderate fans. You'll find them lined around the block, cueing up
getting concert tickets or trying to get a way into the show. They know
(or will soon enough) that Amos' music will transcend the typical musical
performance featuring a woman playing a bunch of songs for frenzied fans.
If that is what you want try a Gloria "I'm Cuban when it's convenient"
Estefan concert. What the curious and the crazed alike will quickly
discern is that the music of Tori Amos is virtually indistinguishable from
the life of Tori Amos. Amos was born the daughter of a Methodist Minister
in High Point, N.C. She entered the prestigious Peabody Conservatory in
Baltimore at age five on a music scholarship--then was expelled six years
later for "playing by ear." Her early teens were spent playing a garden
variety of pop music standards and Gershwin classics for Washington D.C.
lushes. 

Amos then rediscovered the Tori of old. The Tori that had become severely
repressed from years and layers of musical convention and repression. The
Tori that was destined to become her own woman. Her revelation led to a
move to Los Angeles in her late teens and subsequently to form the
glam-metal band Y Kant Tori Read?--a mostly forgettable band whose fame
came as a result of Amos' successful solo works. 

Her 1991 solo debut, Little Earthquakes, was "a liberation," she told
BREAK before a show in Mississippi last week. Adding, "I couldn't have
gotten to the point that I am at now, without having been through what I
have." 

Where is Amos now? "If I'm honest" Amos says, "I'm kind of at a threshold
where I'm just able to go to my next place of experience that isn't so
intertwined with the past." Amos' most recent past is the subject of her
latest work Boys for Pele (Atlantic)--this Pele isn't the soccer star, but
the volcanic god to whom young men were once sacrificed. After having
created an attenuated musical and personal bond with Eric Rosse, Boys For
Pele was the first work that Amos didn't have him as co-producer and
co-conspirator and sounding board. "I had to write [Boys For Pele] in
order to even walk outside of the house by myself. It has been, for me,
the shattering of a fantasy or a dream," she says about her break-up with
Rosse, Amos' work is what remains of this broken reality. "With this
album, I finally discovered what complete creative freedom feels like,"
Amos said. 

While the points of reference might be more obscure (Amos prefers the word
"coded") on Boys for Pele, than on her previous releases, it is an album
that has a universal undercurrent that can only be fully appreciated "when
you know what it is like to crawl," says Amos. She added that "you have to
know what it is like to feel desperate for somebody else's fire to really
understand this record." 

This desperation is the added fuel that makes Amos' exhilarating
performances such an emotive journey for her audience and for herself. For
as soon as the house lights are obscured and Amos walks on stage, she is
inevitably cheered at and clamored for by fans who simply can not contain
their enthusiasm a moment longer. 

How does Amos respond to those folks? "I don't look at them as distracting
because I work off of their energy; and I usually harness whatever energy
I'm given--to where ever it is I want to go," she says. "I've been tuning
into [the audience] for a while anyway. So, I'll write my setlist
backstage while I'm tuning in and take whatever is happening in the
physical geographical area into account as well. I want to be honest and
want my performance to mirror that responsive honesty," Amos said. 

Tori Amos' honesty about herself is most starkly revealed in her
performance of "Me And A Gun," from Little Earthquakes. This a cappella
account of an actual sexual attack that Amos endured is surely Amos at her
most unguarded. She commented to British journalist Dr. Mike Nicolls,
"Some people are afraid of what they might find if they try to analyze
themselves too much." "But," Amos adds, "you have to crawl into the wounds
to discover what your fears are. Once the bleeding starts, the cleansing
can begin." 

In order to help others who have been sexually abused to begin their own
"cleansing," Amos founded RAINN--Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network. 
RAINN is a 24-hour-a-day, 7-day-a-week national hotline for victims of
sexual assault. Services are provided for victims who cannot reach a rape
crisis center through a local telephone call, as well as for those who
might know that such a local center exists. The services are free and paid
for thanks to generous grants from Amos' record company--Atlantic Records
and the Warner Music Group. However, Amos says "RAINN is running out of
funds and you can't go door-to-door. But the silver-lining is that we are
getting close to having a major sponsor help us and this... could very
well be the answer to a lot of prayers; and to be honest, it could do a
lot to help take RAINN to the next level," Amos said. (To get in touch
with RAINN call 1-800-656-HOPE.). 

Amos never fails to give her audience exactly what they want, and she does
it in a way that is both entertaining musically and emotionally riveting
for performer and patron alike. If you are tired of generic shows, let
Tori take you where you need to be. Her music is unnerving and absolutely
compelling. 

Want To Go? 

Tori Amos with special guest Josh Clayton Felt
Wednesday, Aug. 21 at 8 p.m.
Ovens Auditorium
Tickets $23.50 reserved
Tickets available through TicketMaster, 522-6500

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From: S19068JO@umassd.edu
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:43:54 -0500 (EST)
Subject: No Cheese Gromit!


Hi everyone...I'm still a little behind...there's a newer RDT that I
have left to read...but I just had to post now...because CHELSEA
mentioned my love-love-lovies Wallace and Grommit....

Anyone who has not seen this charming pair MUST...

My daddy, knowing my adoration of these two, got me the 3 volume gift 
set for Christmas...I was jumping up and down in the parlor...
SQUEALING...it is not often that I squeal...

That's all...pleasant days to you all...
merris

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From: Tatianna13@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 20:14:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Baby Tori?

Hey, people...I have a rather risky question to ask....How many people have
heard the rumor that Tori is pregnant? I'm not one prone to gossip... but I
can't help myself because the rumor I was told to me included the fact that
tori would be quitting her music for ten years to raise the child she is
going to have. I'm not asking if anyone knows if it's true...just if they
have heard the rumor themselves.
Oh yeah...can anyone help me pinpoint where I can find A) The pink
earthquakes boxed set and B) The infamous CREEM magazine "sex and the single
pianist"?
Anyhow, thanks you guys. You are all dolls!
Love,
tatianna ;)
"You've gotta fight for your right to have a monster!" -Tori 

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From: ALalas@aol.com
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:18:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Dew drop inn

Well, i almost had time to drop in at the dew drop inn in New York...
I did take my picture by it.
If anyone cares where it is it's near Grennich village (i just realized i
have NO idea how to spell that) but you know the place. It's a few streets
east of the village, and a few west of Washington square park if anyone wants
to check it out.
sadly, although i was wearing my tori t-shirt it was under my jacket so you
can't see it.
Anyway if it's a good picture i'll put it up on my homepage...
see everyone later

Jake
p.s. if you want me to try to give better directions to it just e-mail me (at
my normal address jrh4v@virginia.edu)
p.p.s.
also i purchase BT's double CD called Ima.  It is quite good and if you like
Blue Skies it is a good purchase...


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