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RDT Right Now #281
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o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 98 : Issue #281 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o trades A NEW VOICE I'm 15, but I'm not going to mention Re: go vote for tori at this poll!!! Seeing and Meeting Tori for the firs I didn't inhale ....I sucked it thro one degree of tori :) Beene answer St. Louis Tix for sale!!!! someone look up the word "redundant" What Tori Says at End of PW jackie's video. Tori Videos Atlanta show Re: go vote for tori at this poll!!! Tori Likes RDT The Way It Is Re: RDT Right Now #277 vicious things... and stuff Pop-Up Video widow obla dee obla da slinky red thing/blue dress ___________________________________________________________________ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Informa-Tori Informa-Tori Informa-Tori Informa-Tori Informa-Tori ___________________________________________________________________ No report today. ___________________________________________________________________ mark your calendar iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ___________________________________________________________________ Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: NINMANSON1@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 00:04:38 EDT To: Estrella45@aol.com, jcannon@camtech.net.au, oztori@onelist.com, tori-boot@world.std.com, rdtrn@torithoughts.org, precious-things@smoe.org Subject: trades hey! if im involved with any trades or anything with anyone on this list please e mail me!! thanks!! also i am interested in doing more trades so here is my list..thanks!! newly added: 4/12/96 Ft. Lauderdale Florida- DDI Tour, MTV Unplugged 4/26/98- Philadelphia, Penn- Club Tour 4-28-98- Toronto, ON club tour I have a hiding place live at the symphony space NYC 3-30-94 Silent all these years- Rosie Odonnel 1997 Word for Word Much Music commerical MTV news 1996 American Journal 1997 City News - interview and live clips April 28th 1998 Rapid Fax- interview and concert clip April 1998 Showbiz today interview May 1998 CNN world beat June 1998 Much Music interview- 1998 1. Baltimore, Maryland 6-25-94 100 minutes 2. Rosemont Theater, Rosemont Illinois 6-6-96 3. RAINN benefit NYC 1-23-97 3. Virgin Megastore 5-13-96 4. Loveline-This is a show on MTV where people call up for help with their love lives, tori gives some good advice! 5. MTV Live 1998 6. Letterman 1998-performs Spark 7. Leno 1998-performs Spark 8. All the videos including caught a lite sneeze, hey jupiter, past the mission, pretty good year, silent all these years, winter, god, cornflake girl US and UK versions, Talula, ect..all except Professional Widow which is just a compilation of all of them 9. CNN's world beat 10. Tulsa, Ok 11-2-96- only 9 songs 11. CBS this morning- performs Doughnut Song 2-5-96 12. VH1 Crossroads 6-19-96- loosing my religion, sugar, im on fire, over the rainbow 13. Fox After Breakfast 1/97 14. CNN Headline News 1997 15. The Dish 1-24-97 16. Letterman Rehearsals 1992- 1st 10 minutes is silent 17. Toronto 1994, radio interview/concert- icicle, leather, crucify, song for eric 18. Dini Petty Show 1992-Crucify, Me and A Gun 19. The Big Picture Video- Y Kant Tori Read 20. Montreal/Toronto video clips 1994 21. Horses on 120 minutes 22. Jay Leno-Butterfly 2-8-95 23. Top of the Pops-crucify 24. Night After Night 1992-Crucify 25. Letterman 1992- Crucify 26. Denis Miller 1992- Silent All These Years, Crucify 27. Arsenio Hall 92- Silent All These Years 28. Jay Leno 1992- Winter, Crucify 29. In Concert: New Artist Profile- me and a gun, crucify, teen spirit, silent all these years 30. Northwest Airlines Lobby 8/92- Crucify, Silent All These Years, Happy Phantom 31. Jay Leno 8/94- Icicle 32. SNL- Hey Jupiter, Caught a Lite Sneeze-1996 33. Later w/ Greg Kinnear 1994- Cloud on My Tounge, interview 34. MTV news 1996 35. 120 minutes 1996- Doughnut Song 36. Regis and Kathie Lee 1996- Putting the Damage On 37. Jay Leno 1996- Caught a lite Sneeze 38. Letterman 1996- Muhammad My Friend 39. Regis and Kathie Lee 1996- Hey Jupiter 40. Conan Obrien 1996- In the Springtime of his Voodoo 41. Lola Looks Back 1996 42. MTV Europe News 1994 43. Dutch TV- Tori talks about Religion 44. Later with Jools Holland- bbc 1995-Putting the Damage on, Mr Zebra 45. Wom Act Des Monats advertisment 46. 2 Meter Sessies- Dutch TV 1996- Fools on the hill, Horses, this old man, putting the damage on, caught a lite sneeze 47. The Big Question-bbc 1996 48. Night After Night 1992- Winter 49. Alternative Nation 1994- Icicle 50. Letterman 6-28-94- Precious Things 51. French Television 1994- Past the Mission, China 52. CBS this morning 9-9-92- Crucify 53. Friday Night Videos- Pretty Good Year, Icicle 54. Letterman 3-28-94--Cornflake Girl 55. Leno 1996- Hey Jupiter 56. KROQ Christmas Clip-1996 57. Geraldo Interview 58. MSNBC clips about internet 59. Austin Music Network- Crucify, teen spirit 60. Denis Miller 1994- Silent all these years, crucify 61. Boys for Pele Press Kit-1996 62. RAINN infomercial 63. Bone TV-Nashville 1996 64. Primetime 65. Good Morning America 1994- Pretty Good Year 66. Conan Obrien 1995- Cornflake Girl 67. Denver Music Link 68. Bravo! On Much Music 69. Regis and Kathie Lee 1996-Putting the Damage On 70. Much Music interview 1996 71. Spotlight on Much Music 1996 72. Jay Leno 1994- God, Baker Baker 73. Rapido 74. Press Kit 1992 75. Fax (France) 1994 76. Johnathan Ross 1992 77. Entertainment Tonight 1992 78. KCBC 1992 79. Top of the Pops 1992 80. CBS this Morning 1992 81. VH1 1994 82. CNN 1994 83. MTV Christmas Song 1996 84. Jay Leno 1-12-93 85. Italian TV special 86. Dal Big Mama(Italy) 3/16/92 87. Hanging With MTV-7/3/92 88. Rage TV 1994 89. Roxy Bar 1/28/94-Pretty Good Year, Imagine 90. Today Show 2/94-Baker Baker 91. Alternative Nation 2-8-94 92. MTV's 120 minutes 6/19/94- Pretty Good Year, Icicle 93. Name Your Adventure-1-25-95 94. VH1's Take it to the Bridge 1996- Doughnut Song 95. The Box-Box Talk 3/94 96. Paul Risers Favorite Album Clip 97. 1996 Channel 10 98. MTV News on MTV international 1996 AUDIO 99. RAINN 1-23-97 100. B-sides- Purple People, Bachelorette, Cooling, Have yourself a merry little christmas, the pool, take to the sky, sweet dreams, upside down, thoughts, sugar, honey, sister janet, here in my head, ode to the banana king, happy workers, angie, smells like teen spirit, butterfly, loosing my religion, flying dutchman, humpty dumpty, mary, song for eric, sarah sylvia cynthia stout, frog on my toe, london girls, somewhere over the rainbow, this old man, thats what i like mick, graveyard, toodles mr. jim, daisy dead petals, little drummer boy, do it again 101. Modern Rock Live 1998- Includes 30 minutes of a live 1998 club show and a 45 minute interview 102. Modern Rock Live-5 minutes about RAINN 103. 10-22-96- live show 104. Little Earthquakes demos and outtakes- includes: Crucify outtake, winter percussion mix, happy phantom outtake, take to the sky demo, leather demo, sarah sylvia cynthia stout outtake, little drummer boy radio promo, crucify solo piano demo, thoughts solo piano demo, song for eric outtake, mary demo, silent all these years solo paino demo, the pool demo, china solo piano demo 105. Wedding Performance 1978- Piano improvisation, Evergreen, If you needed me, you light up my life, we've only just begun 106. 11-11-96- Boulder, Colorado 107. Tori Stories disc 3- includes Purple Rain, Honey, Landslide, Wrapped Around your finger, Danny Boy, Famous Blue Raincoat, I'm on fire, Sister Janet, For Emily Wherever I may find her, Yes Anastasia, Take to the Sky, Saturday Afternoon 1963, Daisy Dead Petals, Boys in the Trees, Shes leaving home 108. Y Kant Tori Read and other Rarities- The Big Picture, Cool on your Island, Fayth, Fire on the Side, Pirates, Floating City, Heart Attack at 23, On the Boundary, You go to My Head, Entienne Trilogy a. The Highlands b. Etienne c. Skyeboat Song, Ode to the Banana King, Song for Eric, Happy Phantom ( live ) , Ring my Bell, The Happy Worker 109. London, England 6-2-98- set: black dove ( january ) , Cruel, Cornflake Girl, Liquid Diamonds, Precious Things, Jackies Strength, Horses, Leather, Winter, Northern Lad, iieee, spark, the waitress, tear in your hand, raspberry swirl, baker baker 110. Manchester, UK 6-12-98 set: black dove, cruel, cornflake girl, liquid diamonds, precious things, playboy mommy, iieee, silent all these years, putting the damage on, shes your cocaine, raspberry swirl, the wiatress, spark, god, china 111. Live in Toronto Edge 102 - 30 minutes- interview at tori's hotel: includes Spark, iieee, jackies strength, playboy mommy April 28th 1998 112. Live in Toronto Edge 102 - 15 minutes- tori calls in live from detroit, includes Spark, Jackies Strength July 23rd 1998 -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: "vansant" <vansant@df1.telmex.net.mx> To: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: A NEW VOICE Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 23:13:03 -0500 Hi there! I have been suscribed for a little while and have been obviously silent all this time, even when the 15 year old controversy was starting to crawl inside my dreams. Anyway, Beth made me write this because she is SO right about feeling like an equal to Tori because not only she is but we all are, and that's exactly what I am going to try at the meet n' greet in San Antonio...I'm just going to tell her Tori, I have traveled all the way from Mexico City to see you play live and well, I'd love it if you signed my shirt or my cd or whatever I bring along for the occasion. No tear explosion scenes, and I will not try to make the tenth million confession that she has heard about she changing my life with her music. So, Beth you are positively right on having shared that comment on being equals here, mythification is not a very healthy way to look at the people you like. So, there, I finally said something and well, I don't want anyone to be offended PLEASE!!! alright? By the way, as you read before, I am mexican and traveling just to see Tori's show on San Antonio, so if anyone in there cares about a little gathering for the meet and greet stuff I would ADORE a response to this..I'll be going onmy own and if I can't make any friends, I'll be leaving the concert hall on my own too. I will need tips on when and how, so please...don't let me down on this...=) Thanks Marcelo -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: "HeyJupiter" <HeyJupiter@110.net> To: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: I'm 15, but I'm not going to mention it... Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 20:33:54 -0400 >*** Twiggy No Mini-Skirt De, Twiggy Mitaina Pose De digest *** Did I miss something? Oh yeah. I missed Pop-Up Video AND the premier of "Jackie's Strength" but I did buy the LE video. It's eh, ok. Does anyone know if "Jackie's Strength" will be played on MTV or VH1 now that it's been premiered once, or do people have to request it or something? Maybe we could do that Total Request thing again, though I heard that it didn't work last time. I don't remember. Whatever, I'm exhausted. 6 hours of non-stop dancing a day is too much for my little 15 year old body. ~Meghan (the misquoter who recently bought "Dilate") -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 21:38:14 -0400 To: Estrella45@aol.com, jcannon@camtech.net.au, oztori@onelist.com, tori-boot@world.std.com, rdtrn@torithoughts.org, precious-things@smoe.org From: Beth Coulter <betheqt@voicenet.com> Subject: Re: go vote for tori at this poll!!! At 09:09 PM 8/17/98 EDT, Estrella45@aol.com wrote: > >AAAAAAHHHHHH!!! Who cheated? *LOL* Yesterday it said you could vote 10 >times! It really did. OH well. It's not that important. :-) But it did >say you could vote *10* times. Anyway... > That meant you could vote for ten different people, not put 10 votes in for tori. silly people. ;) Fairy Blessings, Bethey I'm OK when everything's not OK cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say and I have always been a Fairy *************************************************************** *~**Fairy Blessings**~* ~ tori trades and really deep thoughts~ a proud member of the Tori Traders Ring updated weekly http://www.angelfire.com/pa/bethey/ -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: "Nicole Richardson" <talula@memphisonline.com> To: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Cc: <mikewhy@iglou.com> Subject: Seeing and Meeting Tori for the first time... Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 19:59:15 -0500 I just wanted to share my experience with the Tori world!!! Until August 14th, I was a "Tori Virgin"...I'd never seen her live or met her in person...Well, lemme tell ya... First of all, I met some of the greatest people I think I've ever met...Tori's ears with feet are the greatest!! Anyway, I had the opportunity to meet her at the meet and greet before the show. I knew that she hadn't played Frog On My Toe all tour...I was thinking of asking her to, but didn't want to seem too stingy. One of the first things I noticed was that she had the word "Frog" written on her hand...I got really excited! When it was finally my turn, I told her it was my first show, and then I gave her a tiny copper faerie that I'd brought for her. I told her I wanted to show her something, and I pulled my foot out of my sandals and showed her the 2 and a half week old tattoo of the frog on my right big toe. She instantly looked up and said, "I'll definately play it". I died!! I think fate was definately making herself known that night...For it to have been my first show, and for her to have that written on her hand when I saw her (for the first time) was just too much!! Anyway, I got a really nice hug and a pic...And, I told her that the fella I was with was seeing her for the first time, too. She gave him a big, fat hug and a pic, too. Then she turned to me and said, "You two take care of each other". (So sweet!!) She moved down to talk to the others, and soon had Joel tugging her arm telling her it was time to go. Before she left, she turned to me again and grabbed my right hand and held it as she was pulled away. That night, she told the story of her Poppa and how wonderful grandparents can be. I cried and cried as she beautifully went into Frog On My Toe...solo. After the show, I caught word that there would be an after show meet and greet. I wanted so badly to say thank you, so I went and waited. As she got around to where I was, all I could get out between the sobs was, "Tori, you played Frog On My Toe...my grandparents mean so much to me"...She smiled and said,"Honey, I know" in a soft voice...then she grabbed my hand again and pulled my to the barricade and kissed my right cheek. I wiped my eyes, and asked if she would sign our tourbooks. She agreed, did, and moved down the line. All I can say is that I've read many Tori stories, and now I have my own. I'm so proud of that night, and it'll stand in my memory for a lifetime. Thanks to all the folks I met that night!! (You know who you are!!!) ~*~But one day girl, you're gonna learn to make 'em crawl make 'em grow tall, but have the grace to be a lady with disgrace -- You fry them taters, and make them with ladies' hands I know you're my Poppy's baby~*~ --Tori Amos Love to all who love Tori, Nic (the gal with the frog on her toe) -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: Hac500@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 00:54:31 EDT To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: I didn't inhale ....I sucked it through my %@!# Howdy ~ Did anyone else catch 120 minutes the other night with the new Jackie's strength video? ( I know most of you did so don't ignore me.) Well, in the first 60 minutes of the show, Matt Pinfeld had a pretty cool guest, this guest's video that I saw was rather stimulating. I don't recall his name, but I think it has something to do with "eye" or "cherry". Does anyone know who I'm talking about?? Well, if I'm starting any brain synopses here please let me know. And, Tori's video was pretty cool--but of course, I think most stuff she does cool, so what do I know. Also, did anyone catch our lovely Chief Executive (clinton) tonight?? Any thoughts out there? Any Democrats? Any whores..er interns? I for one, don't think Clinton has done anything that any other president hasn't done as far as whor..er.. interns go except, I think, he shoulda took Monica OUT long ago. You know, send the paparazzi after her in a massive car chase somewhere in Europe.. (Paris has been done, so I'd suggest the autobon in Germany). Or just bring O.J. out of retirment. Well, I've got to go peel off my toenail that is now hanging on by a thread after getting stepped on tonight in my game de futbol. Buenas Noches, Hac (holly) "I wish I had a toe nail" -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: chosen1@mindspring.com To: "Really Deep Thoughts Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Cc: <PoetGrrlAC@aol.com> Subject: one degree of tori Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 08:29:10 -0400 Manda C. wrote... >(jorge, will you ever be stumped? how about Tori to belinda carisle?) puhleese, girl.... you're gonna have to wake up a lot earlier in the morning than THAT to get me! tori>matt sorum>belinda carlisle matt did some of the drums on, i believe, the "Belinda" album (which brings tears to my eyes just thinking about that album. Belinda was the subject of much a hormone rush back when i was 14 and stupid :) ) if it wasn't the Belinda album, trust me, he did some drums for Belinda. WHO'S NEXT?! jorge -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: "Nina Thornberg" <huntressnina@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: :) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 03:57:37 PDT You know, there is no topic I scorn. I only scorn meaningless discussion, excessive use of curse words (mmmm.... Brandy.... that was certainly a lovely outburst you had; I can understand how calm and rational you are; what a great profession you have *applause applause*....you must be so proud; you have quite the vocabulary, consisting mainly of the *F* - Word.... *WOW*) and the excessive amount of self - pity which most of you have offered me....It's been a not very productive period lately, so you must understand my feeling, everything written is turned into an awful boring atmosphere; I feel I must make something of it, even if it is only a fair bit. I am afraid to find so much difference in the way we understand life. That's one thing I do hate (not the only one) : mediocrity, and I do not hate myself. I read of ones suicide attempts and suicidal tendacies and brushes with death; and this experience gives me a disgust about it....do you love yourself?? This certain post was what really set me off. This all makes me wonder; I wouldn't feel great mentioning a name; probably that's why I see the reasons more real: I think there were none. No real motivation, no let down, just wanted to try "a strong one". I hate that. No imagination, no originality, no death wish, just wanted to feel different, even if that meant to be dead. You know, suicide because of love seems sometimes romantic, poetic, artistic, or just heart broken....But how about suicide with no reason?? That's for the vulgus who try to feel high. Parvenitism. If you (or not so directly you) are allowed to discuss this, I certainly am allowed to feel this way, am I not?? This is not a behaviour, compassion is not something one is born with, I can tell you that right now. If you want to attempt with a strong one, you must realize people are going to read of it, when shared with such a public, and there are going to be some feelings exchanged. That is part of what this digest is about; yes. It means if you feel you wish to display and exploit yourself and your life so publicly, people are bound to react. And I was that reactor in the situation. So you must respect that as well, mmmm?? This really makes me smile, it amuses me; the way that a bit of you can get off on sharing your feelings, your problems, your life story; but I can't simply share a thought or two?? Be they insensitive or not, it was honesty. It was the truth; reading of other peoples personal problems is *fun*. Because certainly *I* wouldn't be affected one bit by the bombing in Africa, hey?? Right Brandy?? Mmmm.... yes and I wouldn't know a bit about obsessive compulsive disorder or of the mutilation of the female genetalia would I?? Of course not; because I lack the sensitivity and caring qualities that most of you have, right?? Like you Brandy?? :) Nina -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: chosen1@mindspring.com To: <rainnstar@aol.com>, "Really Deep Thoughts Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Beene answer Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 08:35:40 -0400 Mandolynn wrote: >ok, i am sorry if I sound stupid but, WHO THE HELL IS BEENIE!?!! this is straight from the now-finished RDTRN FAQ. BEENE is Nancy Shanks, another longtime friend. Shanks has been thanked on all four albums, did background vocals on Crucify and In The Springtime Of His Voodoo, and was onstage with Tori at the Miami DDI tour stop. the FAQ should be up on the torithoughts.org site soon. there will be a lot more questions like that to be answered. jorge (i missed nina's post....i could have had a FIELD DAY...A FIELD DAY with that one! damn me!) -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 04:48:09 -0500 From: Wade Alberty <walberty@stlnet.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: St. Louis Tix for sale!!!! I have a 17 row St. Louis Ticket for sale. The Concert is on Aug 26. If intrested let me know! Thanks, Wade A. walberty@stlnet.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: chosen1@mindspring.com To: "Really Deep Thoughts Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: someone look up the word "redundant" in the dictionary Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 08:40:54 -0400 Charlie Poole wrote: >For all of you who would like a completely >open-ended mailing list for the discussion of Tori and anything else you >would like to talk about, I have created the ToriAndMore mailing list. Post >comments on Tori and her music, send out surveys, complain about the >weather, or ask for support because your beloved maiden aunt just came out >of the closet and freaked out the whole family. let me just say that Nina read this message and said "YES! YES! JUST WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR! SIGN ME UP, GREY EARED MAN! I AM NOW COMPLETE!" either that or she quietly got up out of her chair and disposed of every small child within a three mile radius. anyways, let's thank Charlie for his generosity in offering up ANOTHER Tori list, but let's also remind him that there already is a list for all those things he listed above. it's called Really Deep Thoughts Right Now. jorge -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: Raisongal@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 10:58:30 EDT To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: What Tori Says at End of PW Actually Steve, she says, "Give me peace, love and a hard cock." Yup... -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 16:32:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Happy Fantom <sgriffes@umich.edu> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: jackie's video. hello again:) new subject matter this time. I saw the JS video last night on 120 minutes. although the song is a big radio hit in detroit (i've heard it on 4 different stations!) i dont think the video will be a big hit, mainly because 120 minutes debuted it in the middle of the show, which usually means it isnt that big of a deal. well, tori videos are never really popular anyways. spark probably got the most play (or god, considering it was a "buzz clip"), even though i only saw it 3 or 4 times. the video was really good though. it was really sad. the ending almost made me cry, but i was way too tired;). the endings of these Choirgirl videos seem to have such a larger impact than all the endings of her other videos. i wonder if she'll do a playboy mommy video...if that is going to be the 4th single. toriniss, steve -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: "HeyJupiter" <HeyJupiter@110.net> To: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Tori Videos Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 08:07:35 -0400 Steve asked: >1.At the end of Professional Widow she repeats "she will supply" several >times and then says something like 'and a hard crank'. I am not exactly >sure what she says here, but would love to know if anyone else does. Tori sings (I believe) "give me peace, love and a hard cock". >2.Does anyone have a clue of any of Tori's videos are in the rotation on MTV >or VH1? I haven't seen any for quite a while. "Silent All These Years" was supposedly on VH1 Aug. 15 during the Pop-Up Video show. I read somewhere that VH1 didn't deem her videos "appropriate" or something stupid like that. I think that "God" and "Crucify" have also appeared on episodes of "Beavis and Butthead" were they made fun of her videos or something. "Spark" was being played a few times a week on MTV, and the premier of "Jackie's Strength" happened the other day on 120 minutes, and of course my VCR is a jerk so I didn't see it. If you want to see Tori videos from Little Earthquakes, there is a video that's availible in most record or multimedia stores. Hope this helped. ~Meghan (the misquoter)~ -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 07:48:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Sarah Butler <taniquel_16@yahoo.com> Subject: Atlanta show To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org I just saw the first Atalanta show and it was awesome. I know other people will be writing in reviews (much better than I ever could) so I won't say much. She played Talulah for the first time. If anyone made a tape of this show and is willing to make a deal please let me know. Love, tani == A restaurant that never has to close. Breakfast every hour, it could save the world. -Tori Amos -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: Estrella45@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 00:45:00 EDT To: betheqt@voicenet.com, jcannon@camtech.net.au, oztori@onelist.com, tori-boot@world.std.com, rdtrn@torithoughts.org, precious-things@smoe.org Subject: Re: go vote for tori at this poll!!! In a message dated 8/17/98 8:38:01 PM Central Daylight Time, betheqt@voicenet.com writes: > That meant you could vote for ten different people, not put 10 votes in for > tori. silly people. ;) HA! silly is right. LOL -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 06:48:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Harris <mharris@enteract.com> To: "Really Deep Thoughts (Right Now)" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Tori Likes RDT The Way It Is In regards to Nina's post about the digest being personal, well, many have spoken their outrage far better than I could express mine. The only thing that I could perhaps chime in to the discussion is that Tori herself is aware of the nature of the digest, and in an interview, spoke pleasantly and approvingly of it. I can't remember the exact quote, but I'm sure that someone here could provide us with it. Mike -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: AC1dream@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 15:01:18 EDT To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Re: RDT Right Now #277 OK so there is only three more official days until Tori visits the Sunrise Musical theater for her first show on Friday night and her birthday show on Saturday. Is any one planning on doing anything special for Tori, is anyone attending a birthday party in her honor after the show. I cant wait to finally see her again. Anyone attending the shows or have any good ideas for what to do for her birthday, please let me know. While I have already got her a gift that I think is great, maybe some of you have a special idea. Love ya, Adrienne (AC1dream@aol.com) -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 11:10:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Kielinen <kristenk@bu.edu> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: vicious things... and stuff oooh, my first post to the illustrious rdt(rn) list! (yes, i am a lurker, and proud of it!) anyway, things are getting a tad bit weird on this list. maybe someone ought to start a list called "vicious things" where people can duke out their problems. i dunno. just a silly thought. anyway, i've got a little question for anyone who can answer it: what's with tori's mtv unplugged?! can you actually buy the cd or the video, or do you just have to watch the crappy taping of it that you recorded over some stupid old movie you don't watch anymore? and another thing, does tori EVER play "flying dutchman" live? i wish she would, dammit! and why is bfp everyone's least favorite tori album? why is the sky blue?!?!?! hmm... what do you guys think of a marching band playing tori songs? couldn't you just hear it, the dinky little rendition of caught a lite sneeze, where they completely massacre the rhythms, and the drum-pounding, overblown, blaring version of precious things? i think it would be funny. maybe some marching band will do it some day. you never know. ok, ok, i'll stop all this idiocy now. but can't we all just get along? after all, don't we believe in peace, bitches? have a wicked good time! *kristen -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: Raisongal@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 11:28:15 EDT To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org, mikewhy@iglou.com Subject: Pop-Up Video Well some of you guys asked for the script to the Pop-Up Video of Silent All These Years, so I sat in front of my tv, pausing and un-pausing to get it all....so here it is....:o) Anything in paranthesis is something I've added. Each space between sentances indicates a new box. All words from Pop-Up Video are in italics. Silent All These Years Shot in London over "One Long Day." The concept: an "abstract minimilist interpretation" of the song. Tori was recruited by the Peabody Conservatory to study classical piano at the age of 5. She was thrown out at age 11 for insisting on "improvising." The video's five year old also got upset when she was told what to do. Tori has said she felt "boxed in" by the image she cultavated by her first album. As a heavy metal chick (picture of Tori from cover of "Y Kant Tori Read?") Also boxed in: Boxing Helena Count Dracula Marcel Marceau Movies were silent all these years between 1896 and 1927 What were the first words spoken in a motion picture "talkie"? "You ain't hearn nothin' yet." The Jazz Singer (1927) 1% of American's are natural red heads. 7% of playboy centerfolds are natural redheads Brunettes: 36% Blondes: 57% Abstract minamalism has been criticized as "nothing but blank space." (Blank Bubble) Born: Myra Ellen Amos Date: August 22, 1963 Place: Newton, NC Tori changed her name because "nothing makes a guy go limp like the name Myra Ellen." Tori is 7# (it was a drawn symbol and this is the closest I can get..) in Japanese-it means "little chicken." 7# mixed with bananas and seaweed has once believed to be an aphrodisiac in Japan. The director wanted to include symbols for male and female sexuality in this video. Female (picture of the two balls hanging off the hanger) The label told the director that she couldn't include her symbol for male sexuality. It was an "overflowing testube." Tori has said she often fantasized about 2 men as a young girl. (Picture of Jesus Pops Up) (Then picture of Robery Plant) Robert Plant asked Tori to marry him when the recored a duet together in 1995. But she was a 7#--she told him he was "too late". Tori has said this album is like her diary. She wrote this song about a woman "finding the power of her own voice." Tori says the power of her voice comes from her stomach. How does Tori know if a song she's written is powerful? She doesn't "feel like puking" when she sings it. Tori wanted to be a ballerina as a child. She also wanted to be a sewage manager--she always wondered "where everyone's stuff went." Critics have heard 2 other people in Tori's voice. Sinead O'Conner Kate Bush Tori once called Kate to ask her advice about touring. She also once called her mother in the middle of a date to ask her one thing. "How long do I leave the chicken in?" (Paragraph at end of video): Although many far-right groups in America have said they wished Tori would remain "silent" about social issues, Tori has been an activist all the years since she began recording. In 1994 she founded a sexual abuse hotline. MY COMMENTS: First off, I don't think they said very much about Tori. It was mostly other things. I also don't like that whole, "They've heard 2 other people in her voice" thing, as if she wasn't her own voice. I also wished they had listed the name of the hotline, obvioulsy RAINN. SIgh...atleast they actually used aTori video:o) -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: Tidal7@webtv.net (slow like honey) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 11:56:34 -0400 (EDT) To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: widow i know tori perfromed prof. widow once,.... did anyone go to that show? i would like to know what it sounded like...slow/fast?? thanx Content-Description: signature Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/HTML; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 11:12:11 -0500 To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org From: Jessie Paff <jpaff@macwizards.com> Subject: obla dee obla da Life goes on. YEah. Well, iMac was released, and it is a wonderfully cool little thing, and my promotion went off as well as could be expected, considering how it was canceled once, and in the span of time that it was cancelled the radio station sold all the advertising spots I had previously bought, which is to be expected, so what can you do, right? We sold all 40 of 'em and that made me happy. Hopefully the Big Cheezies up in cupertino will take notice and send us more? Pretty please? Waht has this to do with Tori, you ask? well, I'll tell you! iMac is the super nifty, super fast, super sexy newest, latest and greatest little blue computer to hit the market, and it is an Apple Macintosh. Still don't get it? Well, those of you who went to a show on the UTP tour, get out those tour books and flip to the back, where it says something to the effect of "This entire book was created on an Apple Macintosh....these things can do ANYTHING!" How cool is that? Sorry, I have been Mac-Spastic since I was about 3 years old, sitting in front of an Apple IIsi, and I thought it was sooo super neat to see an Apple endorsement on the tour book. It made me smile. My life is sad. heh. I have a funny kind of headache this morning, which probably has to do with the cleaning I gave my art room the other day....i kicked up alot of dust, which made me sneeze, which made my eyes water and made my nose run, which only made me sneeze more, and today it has all decided to turn to the pure evil of a sinus headache. And I am not much one to dose up on tylenol or such things, so I bitch about it instead. lucky you! Anyway, I wanted to mention that I picked up "ima" (The two CD set) by BT, and it is amazing. For those of you that don't know, BT, who does trance type trip-hop music,, worked with Tori on an AMAZING song called Blue Skies, which I found in Mpeg3 form once ages ago and fell in total love with. Than I quit that job and my older computer, with its slower processor would not run MPEG3's and I was blue-skies-less so to speak. Well, I did a tiny bit of research at the Virgin megastore computer database, and the ONLY album I could find Blue skies on was *SCREAM* The Party of Five cd. I have nothing against party of five fans, but its just not my cup of tea, and i certainly didn't want to pay 16bux for a cd of other crap i didn't really want. so I scoured the used CD shops, to no avail, and went back to research, and low and behold, BT, wonderfully cuddly boy that he is, released it and a remix of it on the second cd of his two cd set, IMA! And low and behold, I found it but days later at the local mall (Whilst shopping for wedding apparel blah), and it brightened up my day to pay 16 bux for a cd that had some potential! And it lives up to it....really, if you have a chance, take a listen....its quite yummi. leave beth alone. Six Six Six degrees, can you match this group to Tori? Kajagoogoo! If you can do it, you get an email caramel kissing and butterscotch huggles from me ;) That shouldn't mean jack shit to you, but it would be neat to see if they can be connected anyway ; P Oh yeah...the 15 year old versus 20 year old debate. Who gives a rat's ass? Age means nothing, experience means everything. I once broke up with a guy who was 10 years me senior, because he was too immature. Go figure. take each person you encounter on an individual basis. Don't judge people by their appearance. I, to many people, do not seem like a Tori Fan....when you see me in a pit at Ozzfest, I doubt I seem the type to have been sobbing on my bedroom floor the first time I heard Me and a Gun and realized I wasn't alone as I thought. (By the way...I was 15 then). And then again, when you see me in a daisy mae dress, spandex tights, and platform boots with my hair in puppy tails, I doubt you would imagine me in a pit at Ozzfest, now would you? Yet, both I am. Megadeath and Tori, who woulda thunk. Than again, tori sang with Maynard, or Tool, who was also on Ozzfest. He fills out a bra rather impressively, by the way. It was a great show, I never expected tool to sound sooooo great, after all the bad reviews they got. Just goes to show....heh. Or, you could blame it on bad parenting and Mtv. Damn those 15 year olds who act like they're 20. And damn those 20 year olds who act like they're 15. And damn my neighbor, who acts like he's a dog in heat when I walk up the stairs. I wanna move. but that has noting to do with Tori, does it? Sorry Nina. *heh* I go away now. LoveNsTuff Tangerine Dream -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: "Mlle. RaisinGirl" <glitrgrrl@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: slinky red thing/blue dress Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 14:13:47 EDT okay, what i have to say does not mean that i condone the word-by-word interpretation of any sort of music (most especially tori, bien sur), BUT this was just a thought i had (and not really deep at that), and since i hadn't read it anywhere else (forgive me if i'm repeating someone!), here goes: in MAAG, tori says, "yes i wore a slinky red thing" and in black-dove, it's "and i'll give away my blue blue dress" now, all us good artsy-fartsy people [that's a compliment, dammit! ;)] that have studied color know that red and blue are on opposite sides of the light spectrum if you turn it into a circle, right? as in, 180 degrees apart from each other? well, i don't know what my conclusion is, but i liked that little connection i made. so :P to all of you that were expecting a dissertation! but seriously, the contrast of the red and the blue dresses makes me think of tori healing from her rape. i mean, hell, she got MARRIED! i think that's a big step for a survivor of sexual assault. it's so hard to explain this when i can't talk with my hands like i normally do! **waving my hands around, barely missing whygee's left arm** on another subject: jorge, how about linking haddaway to tori? you know, the guy that had that "what is love" hit a few years back? heh. michelle----------> who already has a taker for her PtM cd single! 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