RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #313

RDT Right Now #313

From: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:51:31 -0400
Subject: RDT Right Now #313
To: you kids <rdtrn@nopost.org>

o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 98 : Issue #313 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o Stripping Tori's Dallas concert Anaheim RAINN ticket available Unidentified subject! tori--- DEAD? gasp 6 degrees of Tori the big picture is starin' at me... Jackie CD SINGLE!!!!!!!! M & G pics? Your post wisdom teeth Hooker/Waitress/Model/Actress Things are getting desperate Gee Ricky, I'm sorry your mom blew u midol is good Me and tori linked in 4 Myother post and gorge/jorge Hmmmm six degress of beat tori? laziness is next to godliness. Unidentified subject! 6 degrees (okay four) and Ani Difran I hast you, you hast me... ___________________________________________________________________ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Informa-Tori Informa-Tori Informa-Tori Informa-Tori Informa-Tori ___________________________________________________________________ No report today. ___________________________________________________________________ mark your calendar iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ___________________________________________________________________ Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o * A Time-Sensitive Post * From: Intrlopr79@aol.com Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 03:21:51 EDT To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: TORI TICKETS FOR ARCO ARENA 9/16 This is quite last minute but i have tickets from the BEST BUY charity auction where you get to MEET Tori either before or after the show. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity!!!! Due to a personal emergency, I wont be able to attend. Please e-mail me with your offers. Thanks! -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o * Look, Another Time-Sensitive Post * From: "mireya ingham" <mireya@crimsonweb.com> To: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 23:11:50 -0700 hate to do this to ya Scotch..but it really is urgent. um...yeah. fuck.fuck.fuck. somebody posted a lil' bit back about trading tix for the pond for tix for the greek or something in LA. i need to do this. i can't go to the pond this friday night, and the people i was selling the tix to are being indecisive. so i need to sell them to someone else and fast!! :) so...whoever you are out there, please email me privately!!! thanks!! love and support, mireya daisydeadpetals@torithoughts.org -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:54:22 -0400 (EDT) To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org From: queen of carrot flowers <tugboat@channel1.com> Subject: Stripping Ana said: >about being an adult entertainer: rock on. i don't know if you see it this >way, but for a lot of people stripping is the ultimate form of feminism (or >post-feminism, depends on which beliefs you subscribe to/ have). I'm going to go out on a limb here and risk the wrath of fellow Arty Turners. However, I have an opinion about this, and dammit, it's going to be heard. <Deep breath> I don't think of stripping as a feminist act. To me, stripping is just women taking off their clothes for men. Unlike pornography, which is more subjective, it's hard to reinvent this as a daring feminist act. Does this mean I don't support women who want to engage in this end of sex work? Of course not...if you can make the money and have the mindset for it, good for you. I have the utmost respect for women who need to support their children or pay for their education by engaging in sex work, and certainly financial independence is a big part of feminism. I guess the biggest part of what bothers me about stripping and sex work is that your average stripper makes in a night what a schoolteacher makes in a week. I don't want to imply that ecdisiasts are taking the money out of the teachers' pockets, but it bothers me that our society values sex workers over people who are helping kids get ahead in their lives -- to me, education should take precedence, you know? Anyway. Now that I've left out a bombshell with this revelation, I'm going to stand back and see what you guys have to say. I'm interested to hear others' perspectives, and as always this is my opinion and I reserve the right to be wrong. :) --Chelsea ---- Chelsea, the mod pixie home: away: tugboat@channel1.com odyshape@hotmail.com "I started out as a missionary, but I couldn't find a religion which didn't promise things to some people at the exclsion of others. The personal voyage into that kind of light shouldn't be denied to anybody." -- Patti Smith -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:35:09 -0500 From: Angela Smith <dr-acula@geocities.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Tori's Dallas concert hello! Is anyone going to the Dallas concert(oct.4th) I hope to be. My seats may suck, but hell, it's Tori!! This will be my first concert *ever*! :) Does anyone have any pointers? ps- Rusen, I tried to email you to help you, but somethings wrong. My messages keep getting sent back. I will help you though, if you email me. ;) Thats it from my corner **toodles***888****888***888****888***888***8888*****8888****8888***** -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 18:56:30 +0100 From: Ursula Kirkland <ursulak@geocities.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Anaheim RAINN ticket available Hi, I won the Anaheim RAINN auction with the intention of bringing my boyfriend along to meet Tori, because I would really like them to meet. However, he feels like I paid too much for that and would not enjoy meeting Tori when I paid for it. So, I would like sell that ticket for what I paid for it to someone who would really appreciate meeting Tori backstage with me. The concert is Sept. 18. Please e-mail me at ursulak@geocities.com if you are interested. I know there were a couple of other people who were trying for it: Danika, IleneK, and klk...If you're out there, e-mail me. Anyone else interested, please e-mail me. Sincerley, Ursula -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: "Jese Nicodemus" <oneeye@jps.net> To: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:33:59 -0700 Yes here I am posting again. I guess I need to vent my spleen. Will you guys still love me even when I begin to babble incoherently? Mi Vida Loca is driving me up a wall. Irony is the largest contributer to my confusion. What do I find ironic? Well, after the old beloved broke up wiith me, we became friends. Now he and I are around each other MORE than we ever were when we went out. Go figure. Why is it that the guys I like (okay okay lust) I never get to see, and the guys that I am over and done with keep popping up at my elbow and tapping me on the shoulder?????? Grrr.... it's annoying that now that I am over Mike, he is always around. He is also sending off vibes that he likes me again....damn men. and right now I really really like Jeff. He's sweet, funny, makes thin jokes at my expense (hey, I'm used to jokes about my fat butt so I'm easy to please at this point), he's completely adorable. I mean, God(dess), he is buff and healthy, and REALLY nice on the eyes. The man runs 10 miles everyday and does weight lifting too!!! *drools* The problem(s): (1) I hardly see him between our conflicting schedules (2) we chat online, but I always have to initiate the chat, prodding him along until he responds (3) same goes for phone conversations (4) he's a Christian while I am still trying to recover from the experience of Christianity. he lectured me last night for cursing!!! I have such a foul mouth, he ain't never gonna get washed clean. There's no way in hell... <sighs> What else? oh. (5) My mom had a vision of one of her past lives (don't ask). She said that Jeff was one of the judges at her witch trial in which they declared her a witch and burned her at the stake. Not a good sign, eh? Also, the same day, Jeff got a vision about how he was going to 'clean up' his life. *chills up and down and all around* This is what is making me want to go hide in the bloody closet. Last 9/8/98 not meant to last longer than sweat drying on tired skin What else? Hmm...on a GOOD note, I might see Tori at the Greek Theatre. *crosses fingers* Somebody shoot me cuz this is too good to be true. Oh. If anyone wants, I'm writing a new story, and I want someone to critique it for me. it's about all that crap above that I wrote about. Okay I'm done babbling... Jese oneeye@jps.net -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: "Kevin Myra" <lightning_seed0@hotmail.com> To: precious-things@smoe.org, tori-boot@world.std.com, rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: tori--- DEAD? gasp Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:50:20 PDT Back when i was an ignorant cool skater teenybopper, i made my friends sister cry- cause she heard that tori had died (and i told her it was her fault, i was a horrible child) and this was the day after she did somewhere over the rainbow on letterman.......and i heard that the ever-informative serena altshsul had reported on this....hmmmmm....is this a NH thing? AND ALSO______------!!!!!!!! * * * **********>>>>........ . . I want to TRADE some stuff to people. I can't afford a giant collection--- so im just ganna keep mine moving. if anyone is looking for: *Unplugged Girl *Bloodroses *Blueskies *The Mick St. micheal interview book and CD *The westwood one interview *somewhere over the rainbow AHHHH...Respond as much as you guys want. i don't care what you have to trade. Ill trade flats for CDs, books for posters...or whatever. I just don't really want Cdr or tapes, cause my stuff is real....If there are any questions please let me know....we need a tori trading emporium OTHER than Ebay....im a boring guy, i like being offered things, so go ahead=) kevin I LIKED ADAM YAUCH's SPEACH A LOT IF CARSON DALY AND ANANDA WERE TO REPRODUCE, THEIR CHILDREN WOULD BE VERY VERY STUPID KIDS -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 03:32:29 -0600 From: Christi McKinley <cmckinley@earthling.net> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: 6 degrees of Tori K, here ya go can anyone link the beloved goddess to Toad the Wet Sprocket? With my luck it's probably easy but it'd be cool cause I love their music also! Christi -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: Eindeadelf@aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 08:17:36 EDT To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: the big picture is starin' at me... This can be viewed as either a bad Dandy Warhols or a good Tori story, whichever you prefer. I was completely excited to see the Dandys on Friday. It was a bit of a mystery show, no one know when it started, where it was etc.. So, after school I arrive at the venue and askk when the doors open. "(9:00, but they won't go on till 11:00) this would have been cool except that trains stop running at 12:00. That buggered my plans for the evening and put me into a grim funk. I went and met up with a friend who was going to get his ear pierced. I went with him and on the way we stopped into a little record store. I go to the Tori Amos section. Raspberry Swirl, BfP, Utp, Hey Jupiter...... Y Kant Tori Read. Actually the boots called I Kant Tori Read, but that's just a detail. yay. I was dancing around and started singing Cool on Your Island. yay yay yay... that definately made up for the fact that I didn't go to the show. The CD was only $10 too. yay yay yay. It's not a great album, but it is good. Did Tori look awfully bored on the MTV video awards or what? I thought it would have been cool if she started to sing Gittin Jiggy With it. oh well... It was actually a decent show. Largely because of the Bare Naked Ladies. (did anyone, marlantigone, see them at the Government Center? good show) I was glad to see Hole too. Otherwise it was cRAP. The Matt Pinfield bit killed me though. I was laughing for way too long over it. >For all three shows that I have seen this tour, the CD "Exit Planet >Dust" by the Chemical Bros. was played before the opening act. I was >under the impression that the music played before the first act was >the choice of the venue - aparently not. The music played before the German shows was David Bowie's Hunky Dory. I noticed because its my favorite album. ever. I think it must be Tori's choice. Either that or the venues have suddely developed an EXCELLENT taste in music. "Do you have Christmas in France?" ricky's mum lucy -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: ToriBoi@aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:19:28 EDT To: Hiliary59@hotmail.com, nithraj@wam.umd.edu, precious-things@smoe.org, rdtrn@torithoughts.org, Lisamead@aol.com, tori-boot@world.std.com, torinews@smoe.org Subject: Jackie CD SINGLE!!!!!!!! Thanks to a VERY good friend in the record industry, I got my copy yesterday of the Jackie's Strength CD single that is scheduled to come out Tuesday, So it definitely WILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The enhanced CD is actually the CD single, it has an edit of JS, Never Seen Blue (which is absolutely gorgeous), and Beulah Land... Then if you pop the CD into your CD-ROM, and have quick time movie player capability, you can watch JS and RS videos in their entirety! It really is wonderful! I'm quite pleased with this single, especially for the price, 2.99!!!!!!!!! So EVERYONE rush out and buy this CD on Tuesday, you won't regret it! Joey ToriBoi@aol.com "if you love enough, you lie a lot..." -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: ToriBoi@aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:29:54 EDT To: Hiliary59@hotmail.com, nithraj@wam.umd.edu, RsbrySwrrl@aol.com, precious-things@smoe.org, rdtrn@torithoughts.org, Lisamead@aol.com, tori-boot@world.std.com Subject: M & G pics? Hi guys, some of you have been to my new website, my meet and greet shrine, where i have pictures and info on past Meet and greets, onlyones i've been to of course.. and if any one out there has any pics from the below meet and greets, i would love for you guys to send them to me... look below... April 96 DAR CONSTITUION HALL-DC Aug 96 CARPENTER CNTR, RICHMOND Aug 96 CHRYSLER HALL, NORFOLk Oct 96 BALTIMORE, some opry??? i forgot the venue name Oct 96 CIVIC CNTR, ROANOKE April 98 9:30 CLUB, DC Aug 98 MCI CNTR, DC Aug 98 LANDMARK THEATRE, RICHMOND Aug 98 CHARLOTTE, forgot this venue too! the address to the webpage is <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/jeoy">Joey's Skies</A> (http://members.aol.com/jeoy) you have to go to the main page, then to the Tori page, then to the Meet and Greet shrine.. Love you all lots!!!!! Joey ToriBoi@aol.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: Raisongal@aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:00:56 EDT To: jpaff@macwizards.com, rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Your post I really enjoyed your post Tangerine. In fact, your posts are my favorite to read:o) I love the way that you put yourself out there--you give us everything about you, and don't hold back anything. I especially appreciated your story about being in love with that guy...I understand the idea of letting yourself beleive something that isn't true...sigh...I've been there. As I've said to you in the past, I think you're a strong person... Also, I was very very happy when i got to the end of the post and found out it all worked out for you..I mean, I knew it had worked out for you cause of past posts...but it was a ncie ending to the post. Is The guy your dating, who you said was Gorge, the gorge of this list (ie six degrees gorge...) just curious:o) It was slightly disheartening when 3 posts later that April reports that she is back with her boyfriend. Well not disheartening--don't get me wrong April...I'm happy for you if you're happy...but it was disheartening for Tangerine's post....don't worry though--it wasn't in vain....I appreciated it a lot...and April---if he makes you happy--don't let him go--if he ever treats you like shit, punch him and get out. Love always, becky -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: "Mlle. RaisinGirl" <glitrgrrl@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: wisdom teeth Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 00:14:54 EDT who was complaining about their wisdom teeth hurting? i thought i'd offer my story. it has a happy ending! warning: this is gonna be sort of fragmented because i'm really tired and emotionally drained, but here goes... it's the really short version of what happened! last summer i got all 4 removed, all at once, with just a local anesthetic. i was awake the whole time. (yes, i'm proud of myself, dammit!) i had the most kick-ass oral surgeon. (if you're in massachusetts, i'll give you the dr.'s name) i'm sooooo glad i had it done. two of the wisdoms were impacted, and i was constantly in pain. it would intensify if i tried to eat certain foods (like grape nuts cereal!) because the food would get trapped between the emerging teeth and the gums. OUCH. as surgery time got closer, i was down to chewing my food on one side of my mouth because of the pain. i think the worst part of the surgery itself was all the shots of novicane (wrong spelling, i'm sure) they had to give me, esp. the roof of my mouth. that sucked. the taste was horrible! but once she started in, believe it or not, i was fine. i didn't move, didn't flinch (well, i couldn't feel anything; i just knew something was going on because i felt the pressure)... didn't flip out like i was so sure i was gonna do. i *did* have my walkman with me, and i don't even remember what tape i was listening to. i don't even remember if it was tori. (obligaTori tori content, JK) i think that helped a lot. because even though i was aware of what was going on (drills, forceps, and who knows what else), i could sort of fade out and listen to my music. post-surgery, i came to discover that the percocet (a pain-killer) made me vomit (GROSS esp. with stitches in my mouth!) and i had what seemed like an interminable recovery period. i took a week off of work, and i didn't go back a day earlier than i had to. so i was stuck with extra-strength tylenol and ice packs for the week. i healed really well, didn't end up w/any dry sockets, and now i'm very happy to report, grape nuts are back in my diet! well.. this is a lot longer than i thought it would be. so to the poor soul w/wisdom teeth problems, write me if i can be of any help and answer questions. i encourage you to get 'em out... and make sure the surgeon saves the teeth for you! ;) okay, all of you that were grossed out... come on back, it's safe now! toodles! michelle *~*~you thought that you were the bomb yes well so did i~*~* -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: "HeyJupiter" <HeyJupiter@110.net> To: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Hooker/Waitress/Model/Actress Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:34:13 -0400 I just got the new Hole CD and it kicks ass. Sounds a little like their old stuff, and the songs that Billy Corgan worked on sound like they could be Pumkin songs. I'm so mad cause I still haven't seen the MTV Music Video Awards yet! Man! "Dougstein" hahahaha, I got me lyrics to Rammstein from a friend who got them off the internet...aren't the lyrics in English in the CD booklet thing anyway? My friend has it...I'll ask her. And that song was on MTV's "Say What?" one time I heard too. Sarah-definately. A She-Ra awareness campaign is absolutely vital to the preservation of the He-Man's ass kicking action figure. I know! Let's start a SHE-RA DAY! hahahahahahahahahahaha, seriously! I got a Tori poster that is one of the pictures in the tiger stripe dress in the tour program. I got it at Hot Topic, which continues to kick major preppy ass in the Tori department (they've got t-shirts, necklaces, posters). Thank god my friend had money. hahahahaha. ~Meghan the Misquoter "Oh Cinderella, they aren't sluts like you" _Hole_ let's pray I got that one write cause it isn't listed in the lyric book! Oh no Jorge! -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:42:23 -0400 To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> From: Jessica Paff <jpaff@macwizards.com> Subject: Things are getting desperate All the boys can't be men. So that boy, the one who was so mean to me for so many years. He came by to see me yesterday...He tried to get under my skin. Tell me tell me tell me tell me....UGH. No. You see, trust is a funny thing.....to use an analogy...you can only kick a dog so many times before he stops coming when you call him...or her, as the case may be. heh. So I was a good girl, and then went to buy some comic books...the New Strangers in Paradise is out, and oh wow, I just love that series so much. Elegantly wasted....I wanna crawl inside Francine's head and know just why she let Katchoo go!! ;) And...now that it is back to present day kinda stuff...where is david?? I know most likely none of you have any idea what I am raving about....but if you get a chance to read one of the Trade paper Backs of Strangers in Paradise....ohhhh...I recommend it SOOOOO HIGHLY! But be careful....its ADDICTIVE!! "Liz" said... >I got'cha ;o) Thanks! It's good to know new Toriphiles aren't shunned. ;o) We shun no one....except nina of course (Oh dayam, there I go again....can that be scratched from the record Violet?) :) rachel said ... >first....tori and playboy dont really mix(not in my book anyways) >second....gwen stefani is like crotch scum compared to tori or stevie for >that >matter Ok, I agree, Tori isn;t really the Playboy bunny type :) And I am really not at all a No Doubt fan....UGH....but....just the phrase "Crotch scum".....i dunno....it disturbs me....heh rod the boy from South Africa told us of his dilema....and although I am not sure what it means to get oneself in the dwang....i DO know, that is a situation that sucks. However, I don't think I would recommend stealing them, unless you already paid for them, and they were taken away. If you haven't paid anything for them, I would just go online and order some to be shipped from CDNOW or something, if that is possible...man...and I thought my family was a bunch of zealots! ;) ~Sarah~ said.... >And the ideas for new toys just keep getting more and more >ridiculous. I was in the toystore the other day (Yes..I go to the toystores aLOT)...and...well, you are not gonna believe this....but you know the wrestling thing so many people are into...and how they have plastic dolls of the wrestlers? Well...there was a group of a certain type on the shelf with the words "Try ME!!" on the side poiting to a hole in the plastic, that allowed you access to a button on the wrestlers side...so I picked it up....I pushed the button on his side....and...you are not going to believe this.....He Vibrated....thats It...I was so disturbed...should we be giving vibrating toys to our kids? I mean, I never much agreed with the french TICKLEr ME ELMO, but at least he giggled and laughed as he vibrated so it didn't seem quite so pornographic. But a doll of a sweaty half naked man that vibrates? I dunno, its just wrong :) Well, I am at work, ON a saturday, trying to get 300 catalogs printed.....and put together....I designed em to be a professional presentation of our products...to make it easy to understand, the prices easy to see, the pictures of the highest quality, all printed on a fantabulous color laser printer that can do photographic quality...what I didn't take into account is, how much of a pain in the ass it is to put get both sides of 8 pages printed and put together in a quick fasion. I am spending alot of time waiting. in my boredom, I got ahold of the various and sundry office supplies, and I am using them to make a picture...imagine this...I am drawing this picture with pencil, ball point pen, black sharpie, red sharpie, blue technical pen, dark pink highlighter, light pink highlighter, yellow highlighter, and white out. The truly frightening thing is eaither the fules are getting to me, or this is really turning out good! I'll let you know.... :) Tangerine Dream "She's the sweetest cherry in an apple pie" -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: "Little Wonder" <g1immer@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Gee Ricky, I'm sorry your mom blew up. Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:08:04 CDT Okay...before I get into anything (else).... >From: Eindeadelf@aol.com >Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 14:07:11 EDT >To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org >Subject: Two Dollars! Heeheehee... Or did I totally misinterpret that, lucy, and you have no clue what I'm talking about? ;o) And Tangerine Dream exclaimed: >damn, you are learning Japanese in school? HIgh School?? Sheesh. I >feel all un-edumakted now.But on the subject of things japanese...try Oh...well. Yeah, I am. :o) I'm in my third year. I started kinda not seriously...the classes were so small that I was guaranteed to be in the same class as my friend, and we were, and still are, and it's soooo much fun! My teacher (sensei) is from Japan and she's really shy and nice. I love her!! She's really patient, too. But I don't think she's strict enough sometimes. Anyways, it's actually not that hard of a class. It's remembering the stuff I learned waaayy back in my first year that's hard. I mean--people look at the language and say, "Two alphabets?!" And then I have to remind them that it's two alphabets, plus Kanji, which we're also learning as we go along. However, I don't really get a lot out of this class. Right now, we're still doing simple, simple verbs like, "I want to eat." (for all those curious--watashi wa tabetai desu.) ;o) But I still like it a lot. Learning it's fun, we have a blast in class, and we go on awesome field trips. (I'm still trying to convince her to take us to Japan. Every day I come into class saying, "Ohayou gozaimasu! Nihon ni ikimashou." Which basically means, "Good morning! Let's go to Japan." My teacher has learned to just smile...and keep going.) And it's really interesting learning about the culture... And the classes are still really small. My level--III--is getting progressively smaller with each graduating class. We started with around 9-10 people. The next year, we were down to five, and this year it's just the three of us. :o) But we've been combined with a higher level and we're all learning the same stuff. So our class is about 12 people big. That's the conclusion to my Japanese Class story, you can stop scrolling, now. Heehee.... And on to the music... I picked up several good (an understatement) cds lately. 1) That Tori boot--Pheonix something. It's the Toronto sneak preview show, and to my surprise--has a good quality recording (off the Net) of "Merman" on there. Ooh wowowowow!!! What a gorgeous song!! That one line gets to me everytime, "Who could ever say you're not simply wonderful? Who could ever harm you?" *sigh* Everyone needs to hear this song. Damn Tower Records!! 2) Heather Nova. I've heard talk about her, picked up the cheapest on they had at Best Buy--Siren--and I like it. Pretty, pretty voice. But I still have to listen to it some more. 3) Hole. I love 'em. So...little ole me comes home from getting Celebrity Skin, expecting a little angst, some hard guitar rifts, and what do I get?? A pop album!!!! AAH! But, it's a really really good pop album. In fact, IMHO, it's one of the best I've ever heard. I just can't resist it...so if you're a die-hard Pretty On the Inside fan, do not pick this up...severe disappointment. But there's still some of that good old trademark Courtney Love. :o) 4) Imogen Heap. There's been some talk about her on here and stuff. Something about it coming with a note saying, "Meet the next Tori Amos." I don't think so. But, this does not make her bad. It's actually really good. Put Fiona's, Alanis's, and heck--add a little Liz Phair ever so often and you can kinda get Imogen Heap. There's some good piano in it, but overall (I Megaphone-the album) has some really dark tones to it. But I like it. And now if I only had some time to listen to 'em all a little more. Too much school. Too much work. Too much stuff...I only saw my mom for about 30 minutes today. Left the house at 7:15am got home at 9:33pm. *sigh* I need some sleep. Read LA Confidential...the novel, duh. Ummm...I'm not even done with it, but I *love* it. 'Course, I love the movie, too, so ummm...hmmm.... I'm out... Love, ~Sarah~ -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 15:53:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Kielinen <kristenk@bu.edu> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: midol is good tangerine dream, i didn't mean to hurt your feelings! i'm so sorry if i did! it's just that i have this friend who thinks that tangerine dream is the funniest thing, and then i came and read my email and had to laugh. that's all, ok babe? anyway, i feel so closed off from all civilization, even though i'm in the middle of boston. it's horrible! so jackie's strength is supposed to go on sale on tuesday, right? cool, i'm there! ok, my attention span is really short and i want to go take my midol and go to sleep. eskimo kisses, *kristen -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: Cdfreke@aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 16:30:42 EDT To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Me and tori linked in 4 hi i noticed you like those degrees of seperation things so here's mine me>my cousin shelia( apperaed on Pollitically incorrect)>cloris leachman ( probably not spelled right)( was on with my cuz)>Jay Leno( i'm almost sure cloris has been on)>tori (preformed on jay several times) i'm not sure if it counts if not oh well -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: Raisongal@aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 15:04:48 EDT To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Myother post and gorge/jorge I asked Tangerine if gorge meant jorge as in 6-degrees jorge--I was wrong--it isn't!! Ahhh!!! I don't want a million posts about how he isn't:o) Silly Becky.... OK...that is all... -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: Raisongal@aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 17:26:02 EDT To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Hmmmm I don't know about the rest of you guys, but after I saw Tori in concert, I just wanted to see her again and again. I don't know why--I just had this overwhelming desire to see her again. In fact, I am really looking forward to her coming to Penn State, and if she doesn't I'm going to be pretty damn disapointed. I feel obsessive. I know I'm not...I mean, I know she is a normal person like the rest of us, but she....she is important to me...like she is to eveyrone else on here I guess:o) She has influenced me in so many ways and just let me see sides of myelf that I didn't know existed. Besides from that, he music is pretty damn kick-ass awsome. I just listen to it over and over again. I feel such a desire to meet her....just to let her know how important she is to me. I don't know...I guess that is how everyone feels though. And it is such a hard feeling beacuse you know that she has meet millions of poeple who have told her how wonderful she is and what an influence she has played on her life...so why shoudl what I say be different? It isn't really. When I was at the Philly show, I was in this huge crowd of poeple trying to push forward to see her, and I kept wanting to say, "I really want to just thank her...I just want to talk to her...please let me though..." But I couldn't say that, because eveyrone else felt the same way. they all needed to thank her, to talk to her...to "know" her. I don't know what this post is about. I've just been thinking about her coming to PSU and how much I want to meet her....but it seems...I dunno....it would be such an important thing for me...but it is for everyone else also...I don't even know what I mean anymore...this is what I get for babbling. I wish we could all get a chance to talk to her I suspose. I wish we could all tell her how wonderful a human being she is. It sounds so silly..but I just wish I could have been her friend. A person who has touched so many poeple in so many different ways.....wow...who wouldn't want to be her friend. To just sit down with her, have a nice cup of tea, and chat. What a great conversation that would be:o) As a disclaimer, i want to stress that I'm not obsessive. tori is just one of those people that people are drawn to...she has this aura around her.... What was all that about? I think it was a result of not having eaten today--I was literally just writing what was on my mind....even if it wasn't so coherient...sigh... Well have a wonderful day everyone:o) Becky -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 15:17:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Rebecca Robertson <brecca18@yahoo.com> Subject: six degress of beat tori? To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org this is for jeorge our master of six degrees...which offers up links to Tori and beat poetry: "Laswell>William S. Burroughs." i've got a quicker one for you.... tori>jack kerouac tori wrote the song "ode to the banana king" and in kerouac's "on the road" there are 2 paragraphs describing the banana king. if you want to read them i think that mikewhy still has my interpretation still posted on his page... yes this is a shameless self-promotion. -brecca -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: RedStamen@aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 18:05:33 EDT To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: laziness is next to godliness. i woke up at noon-thirty. checked rdtrn feeling like a lamo lazy ass hungry and bleary from too much sleep. then violet made me feel so much better with "*** Ambition Is A Poor Excuse For Not Having Enough Sense To Be Lazy digest ***". oh how can i thank you?!?!?! hee hee. anyway, for the rest of today and possibly tomorrow i'm going to congratulate myself on my poor eating/sleeping habits and put off even further doing errands that should have been done a week ago. HURRAH! Rachel writes about the playboy poll: > two problems with this... > first....tori and playboy dont really mix(not in my book anyways) > second....gwen stefani is like crotch scum compared to tori or stevie for > that > matter > rachel YES!!!!!!!!! crotch scum is a vivid image, rachel :) but YES!!!!!! gwen is crotch scum! if i were empress of the world, i'd go make her sit in the corner with the naughty hat on until her breasts started sagging. THEN nobody'd like her. playboy is cool with me though. they're pretty cool, you know and the articles are great. heh. but really they are. not like i subscribe or anything, but lots of my favorite journalists and writers write/have written for them. and hell, if stevie and tori on their poll theyve got some musical sense too :) Arin wrote: > I need a cute little closer, but I dont have > one...someone give me an idea...like you know how peopl sign off with one > thing every time....like lemon drops and kisses, arin or something like > that! help me out...hehe good nite all! > signing off with nothing for now, > Arin "you don't need my voice girl, you have your own..." -t.a. i'll bet you can find something that YOU think is cool all on your own. (smile) Rod wrote: > > 1) my uncle went to the UK > 2) rod gets him to get me TORI CD'S > 3)he does , but then listens to them > 4)uncle freaks out and tells me i can't have them , hahahhahaahh > 5)rod tells him he is a piss-ant and gets himself in the dwang > 6)uncle contacts the minister cause he thinks she is possed and > satanic and has no respect to her own body , the pig thing > 7)then uncle contacts the south african police occult specialist and > reports the cd's as he thinks they are ellegally imported and > does'nt want truoble if they wrer found > 8)now rodney refuses to speak to any of his family , hahahha, they > were'nt worth speaking to in the first instant, this just gave me > an excuse > 9)and now i still hav'nt got the cd's back , i think i'll just steel > them back > OH MY GOD!!!! i'm so sorry.... but that's gotta be the funniest story i've heard in a while!!!!!!!...i'm soo sooo sorry you lost your tori cds, but wow, that's surreal! tori being reported to the police!!!! hey though, as for a solution to your problem, maybe you could secretly mail order some cds through cd now/eqs etc.... though that's quite an investment to make all at once. oh and doug s. was wondering where he could find a copy of the raspberry swirl single... notice you have a hotmail account and i don't know if eqs and igg etc accept hotmail orders over the internet, but you can always just call them and order with a credit card. they're a little more expensive that way (~15 dollars) though. don't have the number on me, but if you go to the website should be there... my heart will go on, redstamen p.s. hi koba ;) -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: "jupiter spazzz" <spazmatazz33@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Cc: precious-things@smoe.org Subject: Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 15:25:26 PDT im not exactly which list i saw this on, but someone mentioned how they thought it would be really hilarious if tori ever covered 'gettin jiggy with it'. because of this, i got such a kick out of it when she announced that video as the winner for best rap video. what a co-inky-dink, eh? her voice was all low and kinda raspy. **chills** how i love that. and i said this before but... i have those shoes!! wee! laters, e.liz.a.beth. "the meaning of life is bran in your diet." --tori amos -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: "Jese Nicodemus" <oneeye@jps.net> To: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: 6 degrees (okay four) and Ani Difranco Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 16:37:48 -0700 I think I can connect myself to Tori. Let's see. Me>>Karawynn Long>>Neil Gaiman>>Tori Amos Karawynn Long is a sci-fi writer I found when looking for Neil and Tori Sites. She wrote a Delirium story (The Voice In Her Eyes) for Neil, but it was never published by DC comics. Anyway, I am on her email journal and writing subscription lists, and chat with her occasionally when she isn't bogged down with 80 things at once. And Neil, of course, is a good friend of Tori. Am I cool or what???? (: (: (: (: About Ani Difranco....are there any MP3s out there of lovely Ani? Anything anybody have that they would be willing to send me a copy of (RealPlayer, MP3, etc) via email?? Come on guys, you gotta love a mooch....... Jesebelle Satie Nicodemus oneeye@jps.net "You can only be you. A lot of times its never enough for some people. --Tori Amos I am giddy with uneasiness and happy with despair...I have suffered the consequences of my own need...ugly butterflies can't make themselves into cutiepies on a whim. --The Harpies Dance at Midnight by J.S.N. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 19:17:38 -0400 To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org From: Blair Gibson <bgibson@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca> Subject: I hast you, you hast me... My friend and I had this discussion over the Rammstein lyrics a few weeks ago. The reason is that my friend is teaching himself German in his spare time and discovered that 'hast' is indeed translated as 'have' in English after consulting all of his German-English paraphernalia. The reason for the discrepancy is that on the official Rammstein homepage, they have the German and English translations of all the lyrics, and for some reason they translated 'hast' as 'hate'. In the English version of 'Du Hast' done by Rammstien, he also sings 'you hate' as opposed to 'you have'. We couldn't figure out why; the word for hate in German isn't even close to 'hast'. Maybe he (Rammstein) doesn't know much German after all... Anyways to not make this a totally non-Tori post, I was wondering if anyone knows if/when the Jackies Strength single will be released in Canada. I was in HMV yesterday and they didn't have it, and it also wasn't in their big list of upcoming new releases. Wow, better stop writing; I'm supposed to be a lurker... 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