RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #319

RDT Right Now #319

From: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:15:16 -0400
Subject: RDT Right Now #319
To: the booty generation <rdtrn@nopost.org>

o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 98 : Issue #319 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o jackie's strength video chaotic thoughts Empty-Vee south african Hip and Hop 85 shows!!!! Free Falling Me? stuuuuuff Big up to Jorge gimme an L gimme a U gimme a C gimme Open Mike Niteeee I'm here, baby doll! :-) Some awesome songs in & around & thru me again stuff from robyn the newbie poem scroll by if easily offended help me write music reviews!!!!!!!!! rap and Tori at the MTV Music Awards Tori Jingles Farewell, Goodbye, Au revoir, Ciao Hey yo yo yo h i l l i e ' s s t r e n g t h ___________________________________________________________________ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Informa-Tori Informa-Tori Informa-Tori Informa-Tori Informa-Tori ___________________________________________________________________ No report today. ___________________________________________________________________ mark your calendar iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ___________________________________________________________________ Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:47:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Jennifer Navratil <jennnav@yahoo.com> Subject: jackie's strength video To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Hey everyone! Here I am again: delurking for another question. So, when do they ever play the Jackie's Strength video?????? I've been dying to see the video and no TV station EVER plays it!! Are there any specific times when MTV plays it? Can't wait til that Prevue show comes on in October. Tori will be one of the first guests!!!! Jenn :) -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:08:07 -0400 To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> From: Jeff Mondick <jjmon@pipeline.com> Subject: chaotic thoughts Autumn sez .. >P.S.does anyone know if the Northwestern airlines strike is still on on >or not? I have the chance to see *Tori* Sep. 23 (my birthday!) in L.A. >with a friend of mine, and I live in Michigan...let me know if you find >any cheap seats! I'll love you forever! > Last i heard it was over but they were backed up and subbing some flights out to Delta ... could be wrong tho .... And Ness had sum stuff to say about one of *my* favorite instruments ... >The cello is may favorite instrument. >I am a sucker for any strings actually. But I have always had a special >bond with the cello. I am convinced that I can play it, but I have never >actually tried. It just seems kind of instinctive to me. I love the cello - been playing it for over 8 years (actually went to college for it ... not i work in computers - go figure). It has a great voice, and can be very haunting, very beautiful, yet sometimes very shrill and shattering. Kind of like a certain singer we all know ... I would recommend that you pick one up!! A lot of the music store have rental programs (especially the ones that cater to HS band narket) and you can rent them for between $20 to $50 a month, depending on what kind you get. You go Agent Orange (you know, one of the bars in State College Pa has a very potent drink called Agent Orange.... coincidence?? I think not :) > >REdstamen noticed.."it's strange...when you think women are somehow >different than men...that >they'd never fuck you over or pull the wool over your eyes, or even just >take >advantage of you. sorry to all you guys out there. >Haven't you heard? Womens are vessels of sin! A little bit of trivia for >you. The tradition where the man carries his bride over the alter? No, >it's not for the romanticism. It's so the woman doesn't tarnish his >household with her sin. >Sorry to hear about your story Red.; Have faith. Not all women are that >way! Should we stereotype women and/or men as being scum?? I dunno, i think it's just some PEOPLE ... i've know scum of both sexes. Bethany, also from Pa, quoteth >hey y'll >okay, that five for PA....me, Jodi, Becky, Bethey and April...(who >wrote): > Hey, *i'm* from Pa!! Do i count???? >Other news....I have made my tori find of the month....I was in >Keystone Music Exchange, which is the only place in my good ol >hometown of Lebanon thathas imports and boots..and i found YKTR with 6 >bonus tracks!!!!! I recant my statement to Jodi that it could only be >found outside the US.....Sorry dear. :) > I found a copy of YKTR (didn't have the 6 bonus tracks tho) at a place called Disc Go Round, east shore Harrisburg .. they also have a medium sized selection of improts (Tori and not Tori) and can special order for you. There's also a Disc Go Round at the west shore and in State College ..... just FYI. last but not least, Pete was talkin' 'bout >also, i've always thought Precious Things linked to Caught A Lite Sneeze in >several ways - didn't the 'Nine Inch Nails' do an album called 'My Own Pretty >Hate Machine'? And with PT being about a cruel high-school kind of love-hurt >and CALS being about the adult equivalent (every dirtier, with (maybe >metaphorical) wives and families involved instead of the younger Party Dress >Occasions) > The NIN CD is "Pretty Hate Machine" .. i always thought PHM was about Trent's affair with a married women, someone he could never have. And i agree with jorge on the hip-hop rap thing - there is some great music out there, we have to open our minds and listen!! jeff Jeff Mondick jjmon@pipeline.com Bass, Chapman Stick, EURB, Warr Guitar and other music stuff ... System Administrator, and other stuff in my spare time -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: "Ng, Patricia" <patricia.ng@wilcom.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Empty-Vee Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:01:30 -0500 To this day, I've seen neither the Spark video nor the J.S video. I watch MTV, but that's only to catch the 1 millionth run of BackStreet Boy's cheese song. Yea, you know what I'm talking about. So when do the video's air? At some obscure time in the night when I'm deep in REM sleep? Well in that case, never mind. I guess I'll wait for the ftchg videos to be released on tape. Giovanni's descript. of his mom..Actually, this is short of what mom would do if she ever knew about Tori's lyrics & stuff. She would of course, call her a satanist, then take the CDs away from me, then burn them, then slap me in the face and kick me with her heels while I'm lying on the floor, spray some holy wanter on me and then make me go to confession and maybe even have an exorcism done on me. " Yikes! I hope you're only kidding. It amazes me how intolerant parents can be. Is this something you grow into? I've asked my boyfriend, Tom, before if we should be parents one day and act like old farts about "new music." I know my 'rents listened to cool stuff back in the day, so what happened? Now Mom & Dad sits here listening to 94.5 The Oldies, and if they're in my car, they cringe at the radio station tuned in. Now this irks me to no end... Cynthia Glass wrote.. Tori was simply "humoring" the task of handing out >"Best Rap Video"? Hell, I know I would. Jorge retorted..people diss hip-hop when they don't take a second to sit down and listen to it. i find that so goddamn ignorant So how do you know that Cynthia hasn't sat down to listen to hiphop before voicing her opinion? I find *that* so fucking ignorant to make your judgement on her, b/f you've assessed the facts. But Jorge finds hip-hop intelligent, so we shall follow suit. I've sat down and listened to hip hop, rap, etc. I dislike it for the most part, but have found *few* artists to be good. What's good for the goose isn't necessarily good for the gander. Besides you should read Cynthia's comment again; No where did she call it an "untalented genre." I'm not going to sit here and beat you over the head about your opinion, so don't bitch about others "dissin' hip hop. Got it , G-dawg? Agent Orange (protectin' her girlz in da houuze) "Breakfast at every hour...It could save the world" T.A Patricia Ng patricia.ng@wilcom.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: 14368@falcon.glenwood.dbn.school.za To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 13:03:56 GMT +2 Subject: south african ===================================================================== ===================================================================== VIOLET, SORRY, I WAS SENDING YOU SAME MEASAGE OVER AND OVER... I'M VERY NEW TO THE WHOLE E-MAIL THING, BUT I'M CRAZY FOR TORI. OH !UM, I CAN'T TYPE THAT WELL EITHER, THATS WHY I WAS A BIT MESSY WHEN I LAST WROTE ABOUT THE CD THING. PLEASE CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHAT TORI WORE TO MTV AWARDS? WE DON'T GET THAT, NO SATILITE DISH ... THANK-YOU TO THE TORIPHILE THAT CAME TO MY AID WITH HELP AS FAR AS GETTING TORI CD'S IS CONCERNED, IT'S SO GREAT THAT SOMEONE WILL HELP A COMPLETE STRANGER THAT CAN'T WRITE THAT WELL. DOES ANYONE WAN'Y TO SELL THEIR COPY OF THE DOUBLE CD ,BOOTLEG, PIECES OF ME THANXS ONCE AGAIN ROD ===================================================================== ===================================================================== -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:37:15 -0500 To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org From: Giovanni Mantilla <gmantill@speednet.com.co> Subject: Hip and Hop jorge wrote: >people diss hip-hop when they don't take a second to sit down and listen to >it. i find that so goddamn ignorant. listen to some Canibus, Tribe, or Nas. >hell....go all the way and pick up some KRS-One or Eric B. and Rakim. there >is significant skill involved in both freestyling and writing intelligent >rhymes. if you find that hard to believe, then pick up pen and paper and try >coming up with some decent rhymes yourself. when you're done, try them on >for size. after that, go listen to anything produced by DJ Premier, >Timbaland, Dr. Dre, RZA, the list goes on and on. producing >hip-hop....constructing whole new rhythms out of samples and electronics is >pretty damn interesting. hip-hop producers are up there with the best of >them. I agree. I listen to some rap/hip-hop/soul/R&B and I really appreciate the kind of work that goes out on to these songs. Say, Missy Elliot... I think she has some great songs. Her album is great. Mary J. Blige, while her last album wasn't exactly the best she's ever put out (with some obvious exceptions, of course, "Everything", "Seven Days" and "Not Gon' Cry" were remarkably good). Some people think it's almost sacrilegious if you *love* Tori but once in a while feel like listening to Mariah Carey. I, for one, love Janet Jackson's music and would count "janet." as one of the best albums ever made. Wonderful, always puts me in a good mood. And her latest, "The Velvet Rope" is equally great. But anyway, trying to stick to the point, I read the transcript of a recent interview with Tori on some radio station and she said that she CHOSE to present the "Best Rap Video" category herself because she felt she did not know much about that world and she thought she would have fun doing it. 'Nuff said. Giovanni http://come.to/corncity -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: ToriBoi@aol.com Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:55:24 EDT To: precious-things@smoe.org, rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: 85 shows!!!! Once again, in new format, here are the latest Plugged 98 stats... looks like she has slowed down on adding new songs to the setlist... the only new song in the last 8 shows has been "Not The Red Baron"... here goes, this listing is as of the Sacramento Show the other ngiht... 86 the waitress 86 precious things 75 iieee 73 cruel 72 spark 67 raspberry swirl 64 cornflake girl 58 horses 50 black dove (january) 48 liquid diamonds 47 she's your cocaine 40 god 39 jackie's strength 35 tear in your hand 30 crucify 25 northern lad 23 caught a lite sneeze 23 space dog 20 playboy mommy 20 sugar 19 honey 16 leather 16 little amsterdam 14 the doughnut song 14 silent all these years 13 putting the damage on 13 icicle 13 siren 13 pandora's aquarium 11 china 11 winter 11 landslide 11 baker baker 10 upside down 10 pretty good year 09 cloud on my tongue 09 cooling 09 hey jupiter 08 little earthquakes 07 here in my head 07 mother 07 bells for her 06 marianne 06 merman 06 purple people 06 talula 05 sister janet 04 take to the sky 04 mary 04 the happy phantom 03 song for eric 03 me and a gun 02 thank you 02 butterfly 02 angie 02 graveyard 01 somewhere over the rainbow 01 alamo 01 professional widow 01 frog on my toe 01 mr. zebra 01 flying dutchman 01 smells like teen spirit 01 sweet dreams 01 surry with the fringe on top 01 twinkle 01 not the red baron SACRAMENTO -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:37:11 -0500 To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org From: Giovanni Mantilla <gmantill@speednet.com.co> Subject: Free Falling Hello all, Beth wrote: >Axl and Tom did a really fantastic version of "Free Falling," which I had >almost forgotten about till you mentioned it, jorge. Which brings me to ask, >how many of you have heard Stevie Nick's version of "Free Falling?" I think >it's on the Party of Five soundtrack, so those of you who bought it for >"Blue Skies" might also have that song. It's also on disc 3 of her new box >set. It's kind of dizzying actually how much all these people have in >common (since I just linked Axl and Tom and Stevie all right back to Tori, >in a way, oh well). I have heard it on her Enchanted Box Set (wonderful by the way) and I think it's pretty good... Stevie Nicks will always be someone who'll produce quality material. The box set is incredible in itself and it also introduced me to her solo work... my favorite songs on it are Stand Back, Outside The Rain, Edge Of Seventeen (LIVE! WONDERFUL!), Rooms On Fire, I Can't Wait... all the songs are great. Giovanni http://come.to/corncity -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: "Ockle Zine" <ockle@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Me? Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:16:22 PDT I'm so silly. Someone mentioned my name in a post (Lucy I think?) about me going to the barenaked ladies show (YUCK, sorry but I simply do NOT like them...) so who are you and how do you know me? :) :) marlantigone (semi-lurking...I guess...) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's grammar lesson... ~*~*~*~*~You're=You Are~*~*~Your=the possessive~*~*~ ~*~*~*~*~You're cute, and so is your cat.~*~*~*~ http://members.tripod.com/~marlantigone (random home page) http://members.tripod.com/~marlantigone/toriboot.htm (trade list) http://members.tripod.com/~marlantigone/ockle.htm (Ockle zine page) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: "n i c o l e" <nicole@torithoughts.org> To: "RDTRN" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: stuuuuuff Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 13:19:10 -0400 Steve (sgriffes@umich.edu) said regarding my linking Tori to Madonna: >Wow! that was really impressive! Thanks. :-) >>Ok, im not a fan of paul reiser, but a few years ago i saw him interviewed on vh-1...he held up little earthquakes and said something like "excellent album...i hope it wasnt some cross-promotional thing... I saw that, too. He was making CD recommendations. It was around the same time I read his book (that's how I found out that Arthur is his agent, too). I'd hoped he said that because he really liked her. :-) On linking Tori to the Pope, Davy wrote: >Pope ---> President Clinton >Barbra Streisand sang at the White House. >Barbra Streisand was on Rosie O'Donnell >And I think Tori was on Rosie once upon a time. >If not, then there HAS to have been some actor/actress on Rosie that >has a link to Tori. However, I'm almost positive Tori was on Rosie. The Pope>Mrs. Clinton>Rosie O'Donnell>Tori. :-p Hillary Clinton has met the Pope, and has been on Rosie's show. Tori was on Rosie in Jan. '97. BAM. :-) Oh, bother. I need to think of something else to contribute besides degrees of Tori and "me too" comments. Maybe next time. Nicole *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* nicole@torithoughts.org ICQ# 9479828 AOL IM: JanuryGrl7 http://come.to/gickie New quote...coming soon to a .sig near you. *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: "HeyJupiter" <HeyJupiter@110.net> To: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Big up to Jorge Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:44:38 -0400 Alright YO. I hate to say this YO, but I can totally agree with Jorge. I think Tori is musically diverse in that she listens to lots of stuff (didn't someone say she even has the Fiona Apple CD?), and I really respect that cause I listen to everything (except country 'music') too. I am mesmerized my Wyclef Jean's talent as well as Lauryn Hill. They both do it all-sing, rap, write, produce (well I don't know bout Lauryn but Clef does). Puff Daddy I'm sick of hearing about because I honestly don't think he's that great. Missy Elliot is AMAZING. She writes like, 75% of all the hip hop songs on the charts-I swear. Missy, Timbaland and Magoo are the greastest team in hip-hop IMHO. I think it's annoying how people blame everything on rap or Marilyn Manson-I think Manson actually has some decent perspective on some issues-no joke. To me, that's just a waste of time. I blame it all on Kenny G myself. (I can just imagine the flames I'll get for that one-haha). ~Meghan the Misquoter "Who do I look like...Patti Labelle?" -Missy Elliot -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: Eindeadelf@aol.com Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:20:41 EDT To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: gimme an L gimme a U gimme a C gimme a Y LUCY!! pete said.... >because of the link through there >being a Lucy in both songs - though it confused me when i read tori saying >this (somewhere <slap!>)... since presumably it can't be the same Lucy if one >is from Tori's past, and the other Lucy seems to be Greg's friend - or maybe >there's just a general Lucyness Thang going on.... like I could possibly keep my little mouth shut on this one... ;) OK, I'm really not supposed to say this but.... well, I'm sure you guys can keep a secret. It's me. Rather, Tori is me. You know the deal with the Spice Girls? well, I wrote all Tori's songs and everynow and then I like to identify myself secretly. When she says she's Lucy, she's just giving me a bit of credit. (ha ha ha ha ha :) :) ha ha ha ) WORSHIP ME !!! HONOR THE LUCYNESS THANG!!! No, but seriously, she knows how incredibly amazing I am and felt the need to spread the love. Jorge was writing a bit about the whole rap scene. There is some rap that I do like, I mean I don't know how anyone could say that a Tribe Called Quest isn't amazing. I also have massive respect for RZA and Armand Van Helden (who's done beats for Wu Tang, Tribe even LL Cool J.) ***RING RING SIX DEGREES ALARM*** Anyway, they all posses masses of talent. It's people like Ma$e and Mr Will (Gittin Jiggy with it) Smith that bring down the whole scene. And that make the general public avoid all the good rap that's out there. G Love and Special Sauce anyone? now there's a rocking band. Then comes Scotch with $$$ I'm That Phat, And All That digest $$$ whoa! somebody steal that man a Grammy ;) also, this is way overdue but... ***Turn And Face The Change Digest*** yay Violet!! Bowie rocks!! Inform the masses. >The cello is may favorite instrument. Mine too, been playing it for nearly seven years now... I play the Upright Bass too, but the cello sounds so much sweeter. The tones just verge on the deepness of the bass, but have some of the delicacys of the violin. off to pack for my mystery school trip. I need to find out where I'll be for the next week I suppose... "Stop the Violins" lucy (was pretty your best friend agreed) -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: PunkChik3@aol.com Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:50:06 EDT To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Open Mike Niteeee Hello everyone! Open Mike night was so wonderful! After Stuart Dischell read (practically the most amazing poet in NC....besides Fred Chapell) open mike night started and when I went up there I thought I was going to piss all over the place....nice thought....but I went up there and did okay, despite my grandfather hands (they were shaking like mad). I went up to Stuart afterwards and told him that I was a huge fan and really loved his poetry and he told me that I was marvelous and that he couldn't imagine what my poetry would be like in college...oh my goodness, I wanted to hug him and dance around the store with him! Oh I started crying and skipping back to the car...my English teacher was there and everything. It was the best night of my life. Well, the first 13 years of it at least. Ha ha. Here are the poems I read, if not interested, keep-a-scrollin'...... :) Grandfather Dear Big Daddy How could you Not tell your tales and buy me Barbie cars with annual 50 dollar bills? Thank you for bouncing me on your knee and letting me play with your gumdrop ear lobes. I'm watching you now-- Your shaky hand counting money The shiny gold money clip resting carefully on the bar. Heaven's bar, if God forgave me. I'm shooting soda from the stars like a gun with a child's smile. You should have burdened me-- I long to know the root of your friendship with Jack Daniels. I wish I knew you as well as he did. I drank from sipper cups I never thought to ask about the Brahma when you watched me put brightly colored clips in long baby-fine hair. I know you never had easy times, but I never dreamt you'd drive your white pick-up truck home so soon. Resentment lurks when I play Pac-Man games and Anger threatens when I try to remember the musty smell of the bar-- filled with half-drunken men and cigarette smoke seeping into the walls. I'm angry, for those walls know more than I ever will. I would kill to see tears falling from your leather cheeks onto southern gravel. to recall the shape of your giant foot. If I had known you had a halo on lay-away, I doubt I would have asked anyway. You wouldn't have sung about first loves, but of the bar and overweight horses. 'Cause my doll babies couldn't sympathize with emotions and liver spots. But I would give up my liver to see your smile. You should have burdened me-- for I still don't know What made Bloody Mary so understanding. Never knew if you'd been to Manhattan or Central Park, but there were glasses brimming with city life. I should have jerked those Camels from your massive fingers and scolded that great biographies are often cut too short. But I never dreamt you'd drive home in a cloudy pick-up truck after a dark midnight. Understand, Big Daddy, that I remember sunshine. The tears behind my eyes are watching your stunned face as chubby horses get angry and laughing with my heart. Can't recall your voice- Only a dilapidated barn A white balding dog, and my 30 pound body in your grizzly arms. It paralyzed me when Fed-Ex delivered your wings. My stomach bruised, My body, a cast-- forcing my soul to stay still instead of Counting 20's on heaven's bar. I see you, with your liver-spotted shaky hands and thin gray hair, An adorable gut hiding a large silver buckle. And me, with tiny reproductions of your bird legs Millimeter white teeth and Daddy's downwards smile Sitting happily on your knee at that bittersweet home in Alabama. ******************************************** Here is a poem about my relationship with poetry. It's about how poetry is my doom, I can't run from it and try to escape it, sort of like a hurricane is if you're on the coast. You can't tell it not to come to your house, just like I can't tell poetry to not come knocking on my soul every once and a while: The Eye of the Storm The sunset's most beautiful before the hurricane comes calling. For homes to feed their overstuffed bellies and souls to hold in their wrath. Clouds get pinkest before failure come knocking. You better start running, cause you sure can't hide when passion finds your address. I follow the taxi-cab line to Texas. I long to chase it with no fear of a pot of coal, But my calves are pressed against mini-van buckets. I sneer at those who drive to Tennessee when their sun's turn gray-- but their hurricane will find them. 'Cause homes won't be spared when fate wants your soul. Pencils will stay on my tongue. There's no changing gears when my Toyota won't stop and No more rainbow sunsets after you're past drinking age. Skies always look clear before the masters start criticizing. When pink turns to gray, real estate starts looking mighty good. But it's doom from here. So I'll crawl down in my basement with Plenty of wide-ruled paper and blue ink pens and wait for fate to knock my company down and tear the business suits off my rigid body. Yet I'll keep driving 'til I'm out of gas, and smile when winds of passion pick up my soul and jerk out my last ounces of hope. When I'm scared I'll be writing it down, Don't you worry, my nasty disaster. Cause the sunset's most beautiful Before the hurricane threatens before The hurricane comes calling. ******************************************* Guess what?? I finally get to see TORRIIIII!!!! Sunday, October 18th she's playing in Raleigh...my sister and I figured she was playing again here because she sells out so quickly when she plays in the area...I AM SO EXCITED! Life is chocolate-covered cherries today!! Ooodles of Noodles, January Swirl (: Rachel :) -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: "Doug Smeath" <heyjupiter1@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: I'm here, baby doll! :-) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:54:13 MDT As I browse down a digest, I regretfully begin clicking the down arrow more and more ferociously as I get closer to the end-- time isn't as abundant as it once was-- and I stop when I see something that interests me. My name is one of those things. So when I saw a message with my name in it, I wondered what this is about? Who's it from? Well... >it's the.. > RYNN GRRRL... >reaching out from the depths of lurkerdom.. Woo---ha!!!! Wassup honey child? :-) >any of the old crew out there? <snipping the names of some fabulous peeps> >Doug Smeath <snipping more divine names> Yes, ma'am, ich bin hier!! As here as I ever was, and still loving it as much as I always did!! And thrilled to see you back in action!! :-) hasta, Dougito -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: "Arin Renaud" <arin@fands.net> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Some awesome songs Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:19:41 -0500 Hey all....I talked the other day about my awesome teacher (yearbook teacher) who likes Tori.....well she brought me a tape someone made for her of some Tori b-sides which are so awesome!!!!! i love the song Upside Down and Black Swan...does anyone have the words to those songs? I think I have most of them figured out...but the tape is awesome...has Take to the Sky, Home on the Range, and a bunch of different songs! I love it! I have another question. Does anyone have any mp3s of Tori b-sides? I am trying to collect some...I got a couple from www.scour.net but it is hard to find a song whose computer is online, so if anyone has any songs it would be great! I want to burn a cd after i collect some more of her mp3s if i can find someone with the equiptment. So I would appreciate any help! Thanks a ton! Outie for now....Arin -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: "Brook Ashley" <crazycosmic@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: in & around & thru me again Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:24:52 PDT Ok, first of all, hello. Um so does anyone else love this "never seen blue" on the single as much as I do? Just thought I'd ask, because I dunno about you guys, but I just can't get enough of it. Oh, and I was also lucky enough to find a copy of the raspberry swirl single sitting in my waves music store in my tiny little mall in maryland. Not only was I shocked, but I was quite happy. Personally, the scarlet spectrum remix is my favorite....but i was thoroughly impressed with them all. Ok one more thing---anyone else going to see our dear Tori oct 15th in blacksburg? If so, let me know....it'd be awesome to meet up with some other RDTers. (and if anyone knows more about this baltimore show let me know please?!) Ok thatz all. time to go back to my massive bidding on tori-stuff at ebay. (really, itz massive, my nn is halonoir. check and you'll see.) alright, take care - brook -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: "Robyn Lewis" <spacedog22@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: stuff from robyn the newbie Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:06:19 PDT hi. bethey, i just read your peom and im like crying now. it was amazing. do you have a wed address or anything posting the things you write? if so i'd love to read more. if any1 knows anything AT ALL about the dates for the madison and eau claire shows e-mail me im desperate to see tori again and they'll be the closest ones to me.i wonder if anyone can link tori to ani difranco? "doubting if theres a woman in here somewhere..." -robyn -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: "Jese Nicodemus" <oneeye@jps.net> To: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: poem scroll by if easily offended Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:22:37 -0700 But then, if you are easily offended, what the HELL are you doing listening to Tori? She isn't exactly a PC kinda girl, ya know? Hey this is the poem I wrote last night while pissed and frustrated and sad, so bear with me. The two Tori-quotes at the bottom sort of go along with it. If you read one of my last posts (about the guy I like), then you'll see who it's aimed at. Love you all, Jese Corruptive Influence (Ingenious title huh?) 9/16/98 who's truth? yours? or mine? so I'm an evil rotten person, eh? yeah I probably am, in your eyes presumptions made undone by your words so I'm imperfect now what? continue to slaughter my self-respect I'm just the girl you visit when you need your cock sucked "we gotta be big boy we gotta be big yeah... give me peace, love and a hard cock." Professional Widow "and if I'm wasting all your time this time I guess you never learned to take and if I'm hanging on to your shade I guess I'm way beyond the pale Something's just keeping you numb" Donut Song -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: jlechc@spectra.net Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:28:52 -0400 To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: help me write music reviews!!!!!!!!! Yellow = ) I need some advice on who I should write music reviews for. I write for my school paper and I'm having trouble deciding this for myself. There are so many artists out there. I need a broad view from many different types of people about who I should review. I need "alternative", rap ( I know, yuck), country ( yuck again ) hard rock, soft rock, dance, r & b, regae, international music.... ect.... Basically all kinds. I have been hearing a lot about liz Phair's Whitechocolatespacegg. To start off the school year I would like to give my review on this. But the paper is an all year thing. Okay, this is where you wonderfully helpful people come in = ) I would loooooooove it if you would give me some suggestions of new music coming out or of some of your favorite c.ds, I would really appreciate this ! Please help me by responding to this post. Thanks candy coated sunshine to you all, Cushman " Tenni " -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: "Jese Nicodemus" <oneeye@jps.net> To: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: rap and Tori at the MTV Music Awards. Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:30:11 -0700 JTLYK, I have an interview with Tori in which she comments that she has a great affinity for rap artists. She feels that they do their best to represent the truth as they know, which is exactly what she tries to do as well. If Tori were humouring anyone, it would be MTV, not the rappers. Jese -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:59:50 -0400 To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org From: Beth Coulter <betheqt@voicenet.com> Subject: Tori Jingles OK, I *suck* at 6 degrees. I wanna play a new game. So me and the kid were sitting around tonight and started coming up with tori songs for commercials. Now she is just writing down the name of the song and the commercial it's tied to and her friends will have to guess what the certain line is for it. Me, well, I like advertising, even took a course in it, so have a few video ideas to go with the songs. So ready? Go. Pep Boys (with Manny, Moe and Jack) *an auto repair/parts shop* A man trying to start his car on a frozen morning, the battery won't turn over. He looks at his watch, notes the time *a little before 7am* and Tori sings, "6:58 Are you sure where my spark is?" The pep boys come up one at a time to: "here, here, here". Huggies/Pampers Diapers A baby out in a summer shower all happy and wet. Mother picks her up, checks to find the diaper is dry and Tori voice over, "When you're only wet because of the rain." *credit goes to the kid for this one* </vid interps> OK, just a few items and songs. Dunkin' Doughnuts: The Donut Song GE Self-Defrosting Fridge: Icicle Chevy Trucks: God This is the toughie and I want folks to give me the line why this works. Coke Cola: Jackie's Strength Let's see some other virtil minds come up with some. The kid has a list of almost 20 that she's giving to friends to figure out the lines. Fairy Blessings, Bethey I'm OK when everything's not OK cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say and I have always been a Fairy *************************************************************** *~**Fairy Blessings**~* ~ tori trades and really deep thoughts~ a proud member of the Tori Traders Ring updated weekly http://www.angelfire.com/pa/bethey/ -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: "Liz" <pr1ncess@snip.net> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Farewell, Goodbye, Au revoir, Ciao Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:30:00 -0400 I really hate to do this.. but I haven't been on at all in the past week, as I'm usually not this time or year, so I've sent my little email to Violet (for whenever she gets back) to unsubscribe me.. I'll be back someday! Everyone's welcome to email me if you'd like. (Especially if you know of some mailing list/page that lets ya know when Tori is gonna be on TV, etc!) =) It was great meeting you guys, you're an awesome bunch of people. =) luv n smooches Liz -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 00:01:29 +0000 From: Rusen <rusen@nbn.net> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Hey yo yo yo Hey y'all sugar pie honey bunches Jenn Wrote > I'm thinking > the State College one---if it ever gets confirmed. (I hope they > change the date to a weekend date) Anyway, but I'm scared it may be > bad...'cause you know it's a college and there will be MANY non-Tori > people there, I figure, just going b/c it's a concert. I am afraid of that too....of course i HAVEN"T EVER BEEN TO A TORI CONCERT so i wouldn't know *self-indulgent little pout* what to compare it to. But i hope they do change it to a weekend....even tho my parents said i could miss school to go to the meet and greet (my parents are sooo cool. :) If ANYONE hears anything about that show, LEMME KNOW!!! My life depends on it!!! please? okay, thanks. Jessica wrote:> Because I didn't dress in the overtly preppy > style, didn't listen to the top 40, painted, acted, sang and wrote poetry, > rather trying to be on sport or acedemic teams... This is me. This also reminded me of something i wanted to vent about...my father is giving me crap because i refuse to go to football games and haev school spirit. this is made worse because now my sister is in high school and she's all into that i'm, well, not. so she gives me crap too. and the worst part is, my father is an artist. Isn't that ironic.... Sorry people!!!! i find football games boring and a waste of time (except those of the Philly Eagles - yes, you don't have to remind me they are a horrible team this year). That is my right! i hate getting crap for this. okay i'm done now. I'm watching Jay now....Tori's on it 35 minutes!!! Love, Bethany -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] From: HPDW@aol.com Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:53:15 EDT To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: h i l l i e ' s s t r e n g t h h i l l i e ' s s t r e n g t h (starr spunk dunkin mix - net nanny edit) and hiller-eee hey hillie-ooo oh hillie-air-heh-aye mmm hillie-yeah hey hiller-oh hey a rodham till inauguration day sluts ran out the police came said bubba laid them on the front lawn i prey for hillie's strength feel'n'hold by 21 never thought interns would come back this former aide is getting paid i prey for hillie's strength make me laugh say you know what you want you said it's not the real thing but they show me some more and i learn what hack magic can do make me laugh say you know no intern it couldn't be the real thing but they show me some more and i learn sleep overs beene did not inhale you're only popular if you cry and wail so you turn your soul inside out and hope they won't impeach and preach make me laugh say you know that intern but it was not the real thing then they show us some more and we learn what 80 million dollars can do make me laugh say you sinned you can turn this into the god thing so they show us some more and we learn if you love enough you lie a lot guess they did in camelot bubba's waiting for the senators and i prey i prey i said i prey for hillie's strength and hiller-eee hey hiller-ooo 'n' hiller-eees stre-hength mmm hillie-yeah hey hiller-oh hey <and what you want> < is on the dress > <senatorrrrrssssss> =some people (who dont share my sense of humour) may find this offensive =and i'm WAY to sweet to cope with a flaming =so i'll hide behind HPDW o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o $$$ Sometimes The Road Is Less Traveled For A Reason digest $$$ To Write PRIVATE mail to me, my PERSONAL address is: <violet@torithoughts.org> To post messages to this list: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> [Does your post contain time sensitive information that needs to be up within five (5) days? 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