RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #560

RDT Right Now #560

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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 01:57:21 -0800
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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 99 : Issue #560 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o damn them all to hell [ "*starry arija*" <arija@ibm.net> ] plug plug plug... [ Beth Winegarner <bethw@sonic.net> ] Mr Sprinkler, Mr Sprinkler, Wet me f [ "Lavenda 1" <lavenda@hotmail.com> ] hangin' with the dream king [ Loria <nearlori@pilot.msu.edu> ] "sessions at the west 54th" [ "abigail dice" <skatastic71@hotmail ] eminem [ "HeyJupiter" <HeyJupiter@110.net> ] i dyed my hair red today...but it do [ "HeyJupiter" <HeyJupiter@110.net> ] a short spew [ Kerri Klein <Kerri.Klein@valpo.edu> ] short post [ sbrookha@sprynet.com ] Who wants to be my Valentine? [ "HeyJupiter" <HeyJupiter@110.net> ] Name of Steve's Band [ EricThelen@t-online.de (Eric Thelen ] YIKES (Happy Keith?!?!?) and Muhamme [ Becky Wall <rxw191@psu.edu> ] what're you lookin' at? [ "Carmen Ashworth" <carmeena@bellsou ] Revenge of the boy bands.... [ "Dalsh 327" <dalsh327@hotmail.com> ] I wanna lie shipwrecked and comatose [ "Lavenda 1" <lavenda@hotmail.com> ] Tom waits [ Bethamphetamine <bethw@sonic.net> ] Saturday February 6, 1999 [ Misty Violet Jackson <unicorn_night ] ___________________________________________________________________ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Informa-Tori Informa-Tori Informa-Tori Informa-Tori Informa-Tori ___________________________________________________________________ No report today. ___________________________________________________________________ mark your calendar iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ___________________________________________________________________ Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 00:37:13 -0500 From: "*starry arija*" <arija@ibm.net> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: damn them all to hell > I also become physically > ill when hearing Natalie Imbruglia. *this i understand. my little sister, age 9, knows all the words to every song on the damn CD....she's 9!!!! she puts up her NI pictures on the wall, and she got her hair cut short because she wants "to be Natalie, because she's sooooooo cool." VOMIT....my sister is turning into exactly the type of person that I distance myself from...(excuse me, from whom I distance myself.) and she has so much potential.....(my mother complains how expensive those abercrombie sweaters are becoming.) haha. my dad is so cute. he and my mother recently got back from ireland, and while there he bought me a Sinead Lohan CD... his reasoning? "well, she kinda sounds like tori amos." actually, she doesn't. to my father, every female singer is exactly like tori amos. and my mother likes tori....she says that she has a pretty voice. my mother plays the piano like tori, so i think that she is glad that i listen to "acceptable" music... or something. i went thru this awful phase a couple years ago.....it was like that whole ska/punk/grunge thing....i was quite third wave. ah well.* *starry* == *Faith is a fine invention When Gentlemen can see- But Microscopes are prudent In an Emergency.* ~emily dickinson -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 22:58:09 -0800 From: Beth Winegarner <bethw@sonic.net> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: plug plug plug... I've been going through some of my old journals and I found a few more poems I wanted to share. Instead of putting them here (although I did get some great responses from the one I posted the other day, I simply added them to my ever-growing page of poetry on my web page. You can find that here: http://www.sonic.net/~bethw/poems.htm This is only a fraction of the stuff I have here, but ... it's sparing you all a lot of really bad, sappy, annoying poems and sharing only the relatively good ones. :) Enjoy! Beth -- "Oh, my Marys. Never wonder. Night is shelter for nudity's shiver. All now with wings." (Jane's Addiction) -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 00:18:16 PST From: "Lavenda 1" <lavenda@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Mr Sprinkler, Mr Sprinkler, Wet me for one Mr Sprinkler Hello all. Just like to thanx those that sent be b'day wishes... and I'm going to start publicly outing those that didn't... JOKES! Winamp decided not to work today. Thought the speakers were stuffed till I popped in Soul II Soul Vol IV. Thanx smeg for Sonique. I always did like it much better... Dawn of Greensleaves typed: >but before i start my show-and-tell, i wanna send a big hug out to >lavs. i checked out your happy homepage (while burning lavender >scented candles, of course) and was all giddy and happy about the >cute pictures of Australian animals. yup, i'm a recovering discovery >channel addict. (do you get that? does australia have a discovery >channel? shit!) but anyway, they were cute, and i'm glad you were >jealous of my fabu dream. i am occasionally jealous of myself... heh... an unpaid for plug, how could I not repost it. And does this mean I've gotta go scanning the net for pics of horrifying ugly Aussie critters? (Are there any? Oh yes... Paulus Keatingus and Johnius Howardius for a start. *G*). I wish I had my splendiferous book of Aussie animals with me, i'd've (it can be a word it if I want it to!) scanned some others. Like the Long Tailed Dunnart. And a Feather Tailed Glider in memory of the one I tried to save with a diet of semi-melted sugar. We can get discovery down here, we aren't that far behind. In fact we are in front... but enough of these discussions of the time differences. I also partake in acts of random smiling at times (that ough to let you know at least one person didn't scroll on by). Not that often, sadly, and I haven't been getting out enough these days. The walls are sick to death of my smilings, and hyena laughing etc... Hey pehaps you could try that... random acts of hyena laughing... no wait, we don't want yu locked up. Jessi Tangerine typed: >That's my concept. For the gallery show. Representations of The >goddess. One will have red hair, of course, Simon. heh Sounds good! Can't wait to see them... >Lavs...thanks for your ideas of the goddess....very timely indeed. :) >I am getting her essence everywhere. the muse is screaming Hmm, not sure what I said, but I'm not going to knock back a thank-you! I wondered where she was. She hasn't screamed at me to get artistic in a long time. I just have Procrastination mumbling 'sometime'. A.B. Cooper typed: >Subject: Every sperm is sacred Every sperm is good (on a slice of wholemeal with a little salt and pepper for seasoning) >Did I read Lavs say she was preggers? Up the duff? With bun in oven? I know there are others and smeg me if I can't think of them. >While I can barely forgive you for that reference to pasta sauce and >other bodily functions, which I'll deal with some other time... Oh please, on my hands and knees... FORGIVE ME! I never have and don't intend on letting a guy get a Dolmio grin off me. Heh, it's obviously NOT how it happened! >Well as long as your free of your monthly discomfort, just think, you'll be >able to feel ill every morning now. ;-) Heehee, actually, I don't get morning sickness, in the true sense. I just get sick if I leave it too late to eat... if I think I can spend an extra 5 minutes finishing an email, I'm kiding myself. Haxlenut yoghurt second time round was not pleasant. Neither was the lasagne on my b'day (why does it have to take so long to cook?). >Should it be twin boys, I'm expecting you to name them Jim and Bexley. Heehee of course. But what is the likelyhood of a twin having twins??? Oh, and I actually am on schedule for 9/9/99!!! Well, so the doctor thinks, but what would she know. I couldn't even tell you which *time* it was, so how could she yet??? Beth W. Deep poem. It'll take me a while yet to really sink into it. Another Beth typed: >dreams take place) but allowed it to sleep otherwise normally. first it >tried to sleep more often, but then, 20 days into the experiment, it died. Argh!!!Soemone contact the RSPCA??? :) Gee, they could've tried it with dogs (how much am I gonna cop over that line?)... but then I guess if they are working with the idea that cats are more, um, *spritual* for want of a better word, well that might explain it. >another little section said that dreams might be the brain's way of >getting rid of extra information that could otherwise clog it up and >prevent it from functioning properly, and that echnidnas can't dream >but have extremely Large brains for the size of the animal. So I'm dumb becuase my brain made me that way. 'You don't need this' turf!. And echidna's don't dream??? Can't say I've had the oportunity to watch them sleeping and wait to watch their funny twitching... >something to dream about. I pray I never dream about a dead or dying cat. Despite waht 'the books' say. Same Beth again (I think) (so i did another bad cut and paste) typed: >thinking what an awesome next-RDT shirt that would be. (Or a choice >of two, one that said "Got Tori?" and one that said "Got Faeries?" in >the right font (which I think is Hattenschweiler, although I'm not >sure) printed in white ink on black shirts. How fun! Of course, we'd >hafta get permission from Noelle first. :) Cool, but what about having "Got Tori?" on one side, and "Got Faeries?" on the other. Or on the sleaves with a big cool pic on the front? Bethey typed: >And to make everyone super duper jealous--Dani Ring round Rosey sent >me a special tape with some good music and her very own dulcet voice >at the end. I got mail from Australia, nah nah na na na nah! Damn I get mail from Aus all the time and never realised how special it was. Mind you it doesn't have the dulcet tones... >And I'm being hounded by a couple of stamp collecters who want to >tear the delicate stamps off their envelopes, much like pulling the >wings off of butterflies. *sigh* You rip the corner of the envelope off then soak that in hot water. Gee don't they know how to do it, and they call themselves stamp collectors! LOL. Anyway... if I had my albums here... and your postal I'd send some spares to appease them. But alas I don't. I'd trade of course. But none of that US, too common. Let's see... I don't think I've got any from... Burundi. :) X Lavs ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ Girls you've got to know, when it's time to turn the page, when you're only wet, Because of the rain ~Northern Lad~ ~Tori Amos~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ http://members.wbs.net/homepages/l/a/v/lavenda1.html ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 11:52:19 -0500 From: Loria <nearlori@pilot.msu.edu> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: hangin' with the dream king Okay so i don't post much but i had a great experience that needs to be shared. Last night, my boyfriend, my best friend and a slew of others made a small road trip (if 1/2 hour down the road is a road trip...) to Borders bookstore in Ann Arbor michigan where Neil Gaiman was scheduled to sign books and do a reading!!! Well, so I go, and we get there at 5:45. He's scheduled to be there at 7 and be there until 9. Apparently he wanted his booksigning as orderly as possible, so he had us assigned numbers. I got number 31. I was quite excited about seeing one of my idols. So he gets up to the podium, and begins to speak. He's very eloquent and not shy not in the least. He read a bit from his book "Stardust" (it certainly gives some of the passages a diferent meaning when you hear the author read it... for instance every time Left was mentioned in the book, he read Right and vice versa!) and then answered some questions. Apparently Neverwhere IS still in talks for a movie with Jim Henson Productions, which makes me very happy. Sandman was scrapped for a movie, which by the sound of Neil's description of it, was a very good thing! I stood patiently in line to get my copy of Black Orchid signed. Now, Black Orchid isn't exactly a famous bit of his work, but if you like Neil, PLEASE get a copy. It's beautifully drawn by Dave McKean and is just the most inventive story with a female centered cast. It's gorgeous and worth it! I was nervous, but not painfully so, as I handed my copy to him. "Hi Neil", I said. He looked at my note and smiled up at me. "So, You're a Loria now are you." I smiled and nodded. I pointed at my bf who was ahead of me and said "it's all his fault I'm a fan of yours" he laughed and pointed at my Tori shirt. "I would have thought it was the Tori reference!" I laughed and shook my head. "No, I discovered your connection to her and vice versa afterwards!" I then gushed a little on how Black Orchid was my favourite. He smiled and said "thanks, I really do appreciate it". He wrote in my book - Loria - Hearts and Flowers, Neil Gaiman. I was in a daze the rest of the night! He was so sweet. And he hardly ever smiles! Not even for pictures! It was so fantastic to be able to meet my idol. The best thing about it is, my friend had number 182, and Neil was STILL signing at 10:30, when Matt finally got up to the table. He got to shake his hand, and when he came around to me, Matt said that he was still as friendly as ever. That's a true artist. We went out to dinner and when we got back around midnight, he was just packing up! No wonder Tori and Neil are such good friends. They are so alike in how they treat their fans. It was a great experience I just HAD to share! :) -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 09:51:42 PST From: "abigail dice" <skatastic71@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: "sessions at the west 54th" 'Ello everyone. Can someone please elaborate on what exactly this Tori show is tonight? All I know is she's on it, but other than that I know nothing else. I can't wait to see it :) unfortunetely, I think my mom purposely taped over the Mtv Ultrasound of Tori, but it wasn't that great anyways. Anywho, I think that's it for now. I won't be posting much in the next few days...I got the cold that's been going around :( Enough of my complaining, take care everyone. *hugs and faerie blessings* love, Abigail M. Dice a.k.a. Miss Shorty Toriphile ;) "Guess I thought I could never feel the things I feel." Tori Amos ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 13:24:33 -0500 From: "HeyJupiter" <HeyJupiter@110.net> To: "Attack of the Tori People" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: eminem "my name is....my name is.... Jorge" Slim Shady! That is such a funny song! But that guy is a jerk in real life. He's so cute though. But he makes fun of gays, thinks males should dominate women, etc, etc. Lavs is pregnant? Congratulations...what will you name he/she? Meggie: "PS to Meghan the Mistress of Misquoters: thanks for culturing my sorry ass with rap quotes every post :)" No problemo! And now that you said that I'm totally drawing a blank ~Meghan The Misquoter ;) -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 14:08:04 -0500 From: "HeyJupiter" <HeyJupiter@110.net> To: "Attack of the Tori People" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: i dyed my hair red today...but it doesn't show that much "i feel really afraid. i feel really afraid for the Meghans and Aprils of this world......that they may one day grow up and be like YOU." I agree Jorge. Ya know, we watched 'paramecium porno' the other day in biology. I've never seen so many itty bitty things having sex at the same time. It was like an orgy in a 2cm high cup. hahah. Oh no. Andromeda has been poisoned like the rest of us. You are absolutely welcome to join the "i wanna hit britney spears one more time" club. Like yaknow, like ok? Strange, ever since this whole racism thread in the list, its been the topic of conversation everywhere I go. "don't hate someone just because they're a "teen idol." hate them because they suck." Which reminds me of my personal quote: "Don't hate me cause I'm gorgeous-hate me because your boyfriend thinks so" Jorge: "i think Eminem is the coolest name for a new artist i've head in a looooong time." yeah. I agree. it came from his initials-I think his name is like "Marshall Matthews" or something like that. But wow, what an asshole. Well, maybe not that, but he's homophobic somewhat I hear and other stuff that I don't agree with. But damnit, that video and that song is so funny. Lucy-when are you coming back over here? Are you gonna be runnin' around Shrewsbury? Hehehe. Have fun! Just don't bump into Wally or anything...bleecchhh. Greensleeves: "i love adam sandler. " ditto. I'd marry that guy in a second. "I could have been a dancing sewage manager." oh if only you were Tori. We'd all love you that much more. Actually, that would REALLY suck. I would probably be a teenybopper if it wasn't for Tori. And WBCN because that's when I first heard her. I just found out my mom does more $#!^ than I do ~Meghan The Misqouter -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 06 Feb 1995 14:49:15 -0600 From: Kerri Klein <Kerri.Klein@valpo.edu> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: a short spew ok. so i met neil. we exchanged rocks. it was a very cool thing. what a beautiful man. just getting to say thank you was worth the three-and-a-half hour wait. i missed rasputina at schuba's on thursday. shit. shit shit. i got to read a bedtime story to a boy named timmy last night. it should be mandatory for all adults. dani, i'm injured that i don't have a little lit-up-clicker on your page. well, not really, seeing that i'm purty quiet. but i have been here a while, i promise. fifteen months er so. damn. so i'm road tripping for spring break. anyone who wants a visitor in atlanta or new orleans speak up...i'm planning on visiting friends in these places. (riley, i'm coming through bloomington so we should have coffee) it's always good to meet people you don't know from the internet. really. dave? can you hear me dave? bye now all you crazy people keep me ssssssaannnnnnnee. kerriloo^ daughter of the ulurian people, friend to ishi -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 12:56:49 -0800 (PST) From: sbrookha@sprynet.com To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: short post Hi ya'll! To Sairah Renay about her man problem: I would just tell him the truth. That the guy is JUST your friend. If he doesn't believe you or trust you, then you should probably rethink some things. Like, do you really want to marry and have kids with a guy that doesn't trust you? And about the guys that want to date you...hmm. I don't know, really. Just tell them once and for all that your taken and that they need to leave you alone. -razberry rachel -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 15:53:01 -0500 From: "HeyJupiter" <HeyJupiter@110.net> To: "Attack of the Tori People" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Who wants to be my Valentine? This is a long frickin' post April is back (well, for a few seconds anyways) I was confused about the 'K-dawg' reference to Koba. The random things that stick out in my mind from these digests lately. "(any1 heard that Ani song on My Best Friend's Wedding album?)." Yep. Pretty damn cool. My friend Caitlin wrote a letter to Spin and told them to shove their bad review of Ani up their ass (well, not in that way-she was very er-intellectual about it) so if you see a complaint in a future Spin issue-thats my bud Cait the Hippy. No she doesn't have hippy sex Jeff-don't even go there. :) Beth-man, I am sorry to hear about your daughter. Very confusing now with the pregnancy and everything. I hope the baby is healthy-and that your daughter wakes up and realizes what she's doing. Dalsh(?) said: "I don't know why you're all flaming over Britney Spears... I don't think she sucks yet. It's pop music, for the high school crowd..." I'm insulted. It's NOT for the high school crowd. The only people that like that song at my high school are the cheerleaders. And the idiot horny perverted freshman boys. We're a wee bit more mature and intelligent than to sink so low as to like Britney Spears. *Megan*, here's the listings for the Talula singles that I have. US: 1. Talula (Tornado Mix) 2. Samurai 3. Frog On My Toe 4. London Girls 5. Talula (the f*cked up version) England: 1. Talula (Tornado Mix) 2. Talula (BT's-the f*cked up version again) 3. Amazing Grace/'Til The Chicken Germany: 1. Talula (Tornado Mix) 2. Frog On My Toe 3. Sister Named Desire 4. Alamo I totally reccommend the German import-I love all of the songs especially Alamo. John "I'm anti-drugs for me." That's like-exactly the phrase I've been searching for. Damnit-you're awesome. Now when people go "why don't you smoke up?" I'll just be like I'm anti-drugs for me. Perfect. I think thats the way a lot of people feel but they don't know how to say it without offending the pot head who sits next to them in health or whatever. Faerie Starf*cker-Marianne is about Tori's friend Marianne (duh) who was "one of the most magical people" Tori ever knew but she died of like a drug overdose when she was in high school. I'm pretty sure bout that. I love that song too. Re: Porno. Oh April. You don't know what your missing. *rolls eyes* NOT. I saw porno on New Year's Eve. It was like "Emmanual In Space" and it was the most random, disgusting thing I've ever seen but Chad and TJ had apparantly seen it before because they KNEW THE PLOT. I asked Chad what he was doing on Valentine's Day (hello, could I have dropped a BIGGER hint? Guess not) and his response was "jerk off". Heh. 16 year old boys. Agent Mango-er-Orange said: "I have black, asian, and mexican friends. we look like a fucking benetton ad." hahaha. that made me giggle a lil bit. OH yeah. I saw like, half of "Monty Python and the Meaning of Life" or whatever last nite-very very funny. But the whole sex ed thing was-um, I dunno after a while I was like-this has gone TOO far. But the delivery part in the begginning was great. I love John Clease. But Ryan Stiles is my idol. haha. Between him and Tori. and Molly Shannon. And Will Ferrell. And JANEANE GARAFALO. Wow. I never noticed how many people I admired that are famous. E-mail my heart and I'll mail-bomb yours ~Meghan The Misquoter -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 13:22:58 +0100 From: EricThelen@t-online.de (Eric Thelen) To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Name of Steve's Band Hi everybody (hi Richard)! > > he is currently in studio recording with a band (i don't know the name) > > that includes matt sorum, of YKTR and Guns n' Roses fame. > Good point about them not having a name. Steve seems to consider it a solo > project or a duo project between him and Matt Sorum, and I don't think > they *have* a name. During the tour in Germany last year, Steve thought that the name might become 'Binge'. But that was only preliminary and they probably have changed their minds... Steve also said that the music would be somewhere in between Nine Inch Nails and Chemical Brothers - whatever that means :). Everybody enjoy your lives, Eric (with a 'c') -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 16:25:25 -0500 From: Becky Wall <rxw191@psu.edu> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: YIKES (Happy Keith?!?!?) and Muhammed Keith wrote: >And yes, I'll take the redheads below the Mason-Dixon (God that sounds >Dirty!). With one exception. That lil' raisongal, Becky, is >MINEMINEMINE! Panties will be forthcoming. (Or is that the fourth >cumming?) > >(I can hear Becky now... "YIKES!") YIKES. That is all I have to say. No, actually I think I'll say it again for emphasis: YIKES. Faerie Starfucker wrote: >So, i was listening to the 'girls' of Boys...and once again i was >dumbfounded when i heard Marianne. OK, someone...enlighten me...what is >that song all about?? It's way below me to actually go to one of those >'What the song REALLY means' sites...and i'm having some serious anxiety >attacks because i'm admitting that i have not a clue, or a connection to >a Tori song...i almost feel not worthy. Well first off =P I have a site that has song interpretations! Whats wrong with looking at one of these sites. Muhammed is my most favorite song to interpret because I LOVE what it talks about. See, the Catholic Church lead women to believe that they should be like Mary the virgin mother. That Mary is the archtype for women and she is a virgin. By doing this, they remove the passion from the woman. On the other hand, they make Mary Magdalin seem like a slut. They make women believer that they are not SUPPOSED to have sex. Women are SUPPOSED to be virgins, and if they aren't they are a slut. Because of this, it does not give women anywhere to be passionate creatures. Muhammed is about reminding people that we both know it was a "girl" back in Bethlehem. It isn't Mary the virgin that we should be honoring, it is Mary magdalin, who understood that women have passion within them. We should realize that it was a girl, a girl that is and should be given the chance to be passionate. Tori talks about how she was sitting in church on Christmas Eve, listening to Little Town of Bethlehem (I think that was the song---apparently the first few chords of Muhammed are supposed to be O little Town slowed down--or another song I don't remember) and she was thinking about this paradox between the two Mary's....and she just wanted to talk to Muhammed about it. She wanted to remind people that we shouldn't force women to believe that they NEED to be like the virgin mother--that womenhood is about more than that and we shouldn't let them take it away. Teunis wrote: > On the flip side why should we burden others with it? Personally, I know that I have posted a lot of personal hard hitting things on here. I don't see this as burdening others. I LIKE helping others who have had difficult experiences. When I read a personal emotional post, I am happy to know that we can trust each other enough to do that, and I am also happy to be there for another human being. I know that a lot of people were there for me when I was in the dumps. As Tori said on Fanatic (excuse me if I misquote): "It isn't hard to reach out and connect with another human being." April wrote: >hair done, gotta get a date (any1 wanna fly in to PA and take me up on >this?! :) ) Well I'm in PA hon! Lol. We would really throw them off wouldn't we!!! Mwahahahaha. >along with the Tori Stories Book. (Bethey) Bethey, where did you find this???? Renay, I say that your guy needs to trust you! If you tell him that you don't like these other guys, he needs to accept that. He doens't love you if he can't trust you. It needs to be there, and you need to let him know that. You need to tell him that if he can't deal with the fact that you have male friends, then that is his fault. He shouldn't tell you who you can and can't hang out with. If he truley loves you, he should trust you. >*** The Best Audience Is Intelligent, Well-Educated And Mildly Drunk >digest *** Boy, if that doesn't sum up Penn State, I don't know what does (she says as she plans on going out and drinking tonight) Well I need to get dressed. Jesus. It is 4:24 on Saturday afternoon and I'm still in my nightgown. Ahh well. I love Saturdays! Hugs Becky the little raisongal -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 15:43:25 -0600 From: "Carmen Ashworth" <carmeena@bellsouth.net> To: "rdtrn" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: what're you lookin' at? HI how's everyone? To the person who asked what is the song Marianne about: WHY is it beneath you to look at a site that will tell you exactly what the song means? Whorehay has a FAQ on his site, which I am sure he will love me for plugging. That very FAQ will tell you exactly what you want to know, plus you will be enlightened by Jorge's site. (You're welcome, Jorge). +$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$ Heather wrote: RANDOM QUESTION - is anyone else super accident prone?? Shit yes. I am such a clutz. I cannot cook without burning myself. Seriously. I am recovering today from last night's burn. +$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$+$ love, love, love RB (Random Bullshit) aha hush that fuss everybody move to the back of the bus -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 14:01:24 PST From: "Dalsh 327" <dalsh327@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Revenge of the boy bands.... Did anyone watch that show on MTV? The former New Kids sounded like the old guard or something. And on top of that, a greatest hits, in '99??? I thought the nightmare was over.... Britney Spears is safe compared to this nightmare.... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 14:30:21 PST From: "Lavenda 1" <lavenda@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: I wanna lie shipwrecked and comatose I think I was feeling particularly sarcastic yesterday... OK, FTCH IS a different album when listened to in order of the lyrics in the booklet... To me the songs just flow straight into each other (the only time I caught myself expecting a diff song was after 'Hotel'). It's almost like it is the way it was uspposed to be, the way Tori really would've wanted it. She says her favourite songs never get on, but this is like a way of getting her own back. Violet typed from oblivion: >to do with "Red Dwarf". (I tried and tried to like that series, but >never did get it to agree with me.) If you haven't seen Red Green, Argh Shock Horror!!! Should Violet be sacked for her blasphemy? Should she be tied into a chair and forced to watch all seven series one after the other non-stop? Join us, same RDTRN time, same RDTRN channel to find out!... Beth C., like your 'Words' poem. Foxxy Shapiro typed: >The Goddess > >(The muse has returned.) Damn right she has. Told me she'd be with me shortly, she's jsut busy screaming at Tangerine. Teunis typed: >whatever). On the flip side why should we burden others with it? I There's always the scroll bar. Typing something out and submitting it doesn't condemn everyone to read it. You get it off your chest and its there if someone wants to burden themselves with it. Bethey typed: >The good news is I haven't lost my mind during all of this. >The bad news is I haven't lost my mind during all of this. LOL! And they say you can't have it both ways... andrea typed: >somebody said... >>I'm the first to agree that humour is good... and there is often [snip] That'd be me. she went on: >the movie is a comedy, but in a very classic sense. it's not a funny >ha-ha kind of thing. as benigni himself said in an interview, there >is a great deal of truth in being able to laugh and cry at the same >time. (er, he said Something like that. the interview's at >www.filmunlimited.co.uk.) but people protest over laughing during a >movie about the holocaust. i have a friend (who has visited the camps >in europe, which changes things) who doesn't want to see the film on >the basis that people shouldn't walk out of a movie about the >holocaust saying "oh, that was a good movie." Firstly, how can your friend form an opinion on something they haven't seen? Well, form an informed opinion. And it could be a 'good movie' in a number of ways. There's not jsut entertainment value to think about here, how well it was put together (the film craft) comes into it... that it makes you think could be another point. Anyway... >in my opinion the movie isn't about the holocaust. it's about the >strength of the survivors, not just of the holocaust but of any >horror. strength can be found in humor. there used to be a book of >comedy to go with the book of tragedy but it got lost. the role of >comedy in modern society has been misplaced in many ways. I'm going to throw in some more referenced quotes here: HUMOR "Yer man's"...wit is generally the good-humoured kind saying "serious things in a way that seem funny when you see how serious they are." - Sean McCann, Irish Writer Humor is the ability to make light of something that is deadly serious, thereby taking the "deadly" out of it and putting the life back into it. A society that is humorless is a lifeless society. When things become s serious - and so sacred - that we can't laugh about them anymore, it means we have elevated the profane to the realm of the sacred and misplaced the sacred in the process. ~ There's nothing funnier than an addict who thinks he isn't. (January 12, Anne Wilson-Schaef, 'Native Wisdom For White Minds') I could go on, but I think that page says enough of it. Anne found the words for me (like Tori often does). I used to put my pain on a pedestal, and it was only when I moved away from it that I could use humour about it. And I'd use humour as a defense mechanism... I'd make a joke about something that was really close to the bone so that people wouldn't think it was close to the bone because I know that people don't bother reading that much into humour. A lot of humour has been slap-sticked... it's depth has been taken away and we just take it at face value, surface, visual. It's probably becuse we don't want to see what is under it, we'd like to think that everything is coming up lavender (*G* you expected me to say roses???). It's less confronting that way. Becky and Starfucker, thanx for the congrats. Star Fucker went on: >only him, but myself. It's somewhat sad though, i think he's the only >boy who's toys consist of CDs, a computer, and books by Nietzche, >LaVay, Manson and Tori. Poor thing...he'll probably turn out to be a >faerie freak like yours truly. Seriously though..theres nothing more >moving than waking up to that toothless, ear to ear grin. It's like, >for the rest of the day, NO ONE can get on my cloud...Do you think a >child with the name Mayhem Hazard Orion is going to grow up with some >issues?? I sure hope so..i don't think i could handle a 'normal' >son...i'd be at a loss. Hey, I'd say he's got a head-start! *G* A name like Mayhem Hazard Orion sounds like a character in a fantasy novel!!! The more faery typed in the world the better I say. Renay typed about her boy troubles. He certainly sounds like the jealous type. Not telling about going to the party with that guy probably made him think there was something up when he found out... And if you stress that you're jsut friends with these guys and that there is no way you'd go for any of them, and he still can't deal with it then it is his problem. He's got some trust issues that you'll need to get to the bottom of (as in both of you working together). I don't know that there's much else I can suggest, some people just can't let go of their strangle hold and you just have to move on. Agent Patricia typed: >good girl Lavs. Why do I feel like I just got a pat on the head?! :) > We need more preservation of cultures! America's a >melting pot, but if we allow ourselves to assimilate to a traditional >American culture, we'd all be missing out on a lot! I'm Chinese and >if you think it's unamerican for me to speak Chinese to my family, >screw you. Ya'll, I'm so lucky! I get to experience twice as many >holidays, I get to see life in two different perspectives. By the >way, Chinese New Years is coming up. I honestly wouldn't trade it for >anything else. I couldn't agree more! The world would be a boring place if there was just the 'melting pot' cultures... It's why I do have a few quibbles over the saying 'difrnt colours, one people'. We are one people to a point, but saying that can blur over all the fantastic and interesting differences. Anyway, if you got a problem about people speaking other languages in America (or any other English speaking country), are you going to speak English when you go to a non-English speaking country? I've had glimpses of other perspectives and really value them. Enough for today. X Lavs ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ Girls you've got to know, when it's time to turn the page, when you're only wet, Because of the rain ~Northern Lad~ ~Tori Amos~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ http://members.wbs.net/homepages/l/a/v/lavenda1.html ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 15:42:36 -0800 (PST) From: Bethamphetamine <bethw@sonic.net> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org (RDT Right Now) Subject: Tom waits Someone asked: > Just a quick question to those folks in the Cotati/Sebastopol area... > doesn't Tom Waits live there? Someone should ask him what he thinks > about Tori, and whether he'd do a duet with her. I think that would be > pretty awesome if it was ever to happen... Yes, he does live up in this area, but doesn't usually like to be approached by strangers on the street. (I know people who've tried). He'll say hello, but that's about it. Beth -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 19:42:22 -0600 From: Misty Violet Jackson <unicorn_night@geocities.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Saturday February 6, 1999 What about red heads? Im a red head. And what exactly is "hippy sex"? What is the title of the Ani song on the My Best Friend's Wedding soundtrack? Tori signed my Little Earthquakes cd at her 98 tour in Dallas, Texas :o) I consider any issue of Cosmo to be a complete lesson on masturbation. ;o) Andrea, did u read The Diary of Anne Frank? Im watching PBS and its Sat night, but i dont see Tori. Blood oranges, blood oranges is cute. 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