RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #794

RDT Right Now #794

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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 01:41:38 -0700
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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 99 : Issue #794 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o Announce: Setlist Summary Page for ' [ Sped Erstad <sped@mailandnews.com> ] I gave up on the past [ "Kevin Hawkins" <heybrakywacky@hotm ] cd5??? [ "ami" <amik@il.freei.net> ] poetry contest, winner will meet Tor [ violet@torithoughts.org ] secrets [ "The Wicked Witch of the East" <del ] Birth Announcement [ Rusen <rusen@nbn.net> ] "so pure" [ "Natalie Aubele" <jrmint_69@hotmail ] The chick with braids. [ SirenGrrrI@aol.com ] tuesday posting [ Simon Booth <simon@texas.net> ] Where is Tori's Realm of Mp3's web s [ "Wilson Picket" <du69ke@hotmail.com ] bliss of another kind [ "John Kwiatkowski" <stickboy0@hotma ] Welcome to Barnes and Noble, the LOO [ "Doug Smeath" <heyjupiter1@hotmail. ] SEATTLE TORI TICKET 10 OCT 1999 [ "MRS. MACPHISTO" <a_siren_song@hotm ] mps3 [ PokaDot420@aol.com ] voyeur no more [ "Emily Williams" <klar@iac.net> ] just...to... [ Fragments1@aol.com ] those darn gummiebears [ BlosomStar@aol.com ] the midwest is creepier than you wil [ "anna sunshine ison" <queenpie@mind ] ___________________________________________________________________ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Informa-Tori Informa-Tori Informa-Tori Informa-Tori Informa-Tori ___________________________________________________________________ No report today. ___________________________________________________________________ mark your calendar iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ___________________________________________________________________ Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 19:29:09 -0500 From: Sped Erstad <sped@mailandnews.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Cc: mikewhy@iglou.com Subject: Announce: Setlist Summary Page for '99 Tour Hi, Sped here! If anyone still remembers me, I'm a fan from Waaaaay back (actually used to post to this list quite a bit in my youth) and I've been keeping track of the Tori setlist stats for the last few tours... Well, this time around I was a little more on the ball and the setlist summary page for this tour is now up and running for the beginning of a tour for once. Please go to the site below and check it out. http://acc.jc.edu/~serstad/tori99/ What is it? Well, we all know that one of the best things about seeing Tori live is the fact that she never plays the same set twice, and the number of different songs she plays is unbelievable. Because of this I grew curious about just how often she played certain songs, how many songs she has performed throughout the tour, which songs she didn't play at all, etc. etc. If you go to the Summary page (address above!) you'll be able to view a number of different stats about the songs she's performed on this tour. Some things that may or may not be not surprising: -- Through four shows she's playing exactly 13 songs per night. -- Since she's playing bigger venues this time, it appears that she doesn't have freedom to play as wide a variety this tour. So far she has played 8 of those 13 songs the exact same each night (and roughly in the same order). -- However, she's really mixing up the other 5 "freedom" songs each night -- 24 different songs have already been played! -- Her first cover played has been "Landslide" (as she gets more and more of her own songs, hopefully she will not overlook the power of a cover song....) -- She's only played 2 songs from Choirgirl It's really amazing what kinds of things she can do with her "babies" as her batch grows.... Anyway -- you can draw your own cool stats from the list. Hopefully you will get a taste of what to expect in upcoming shows from this and it will enhance your listening pleasure. Once again, that number: http://acc.jc.edu/~serstad/tori99/ Enjoy! .sped. sped@mailandnews.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 01:16:52 GMT From: "Kevin Hawkins" <heybrakywacky@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: I gave up on the past Okay, so I decided that I would never make it through all of the digests I was behind on, so I gave up. I didn't see any responses to me in about 6 or 7 past my last post, so I figured I'm pretty safe. Like anyone would talk to me anyway. :) First of all, John, I didn't see what awful thing happened to you, merely the aftermath of posts. Since I didn't get the details, I'll just say to hell with those people, whoever they are. That should be general enough. :) Besides, I mostly wanted to tell you that I was thinking about you because I'm reading this book by David Sedaris called Barrel Fever, which is very well-written, very funny. It's just short stories and essays, and I've only read a few so far, but most of them incorporate the narrator as a gay man, in one way or another. The thing I like about it is that it doesn't play up the fact. That the narrator is gay just something that comes out in whatever he happens to be talking about in his stories. As a matter of fact, in the first story, it took me a while to figure out whether he was supposed to be gay, or supposed to be a woman. I find it to be a very refreshing point of view. It makes me wish that being gay could be just as normal as being a cyclist, or being Russian, or baking bread. Dare to dream. :) I'd recommend the book to anyone since it's so amazingly funny, but I thought of you, so I thought I'd tell you first. :) The birth of koba wrote: >holy shit. happy birthday "kind of blue." on august 17, 1959, the >world was changed for the better when miles davis released what is > >probably the best-selling jazz record of all time. yeah. who woulda > thunk >that an album Ah, that's a bit of trivia I did not know. What a splendid album! You know what makes me angry? That stupid US3 album is the best-selling Blue Note album of all time. Piss on them, Miles is the beginning and the end of jazz as I know it. :) And that album is tops, in my book. Between him, Bird, Mingus, Monk, and Coltrane, I could live unsatiated on jazz forever. That reminds me again that a friend of mine managed to steal my Weird Nightmare: Meditations on Mingus CD, and now he lives in San Diego. That boy deserves a thumpin'! But he loved it sooo much...I don't feel too bad about it. K., in response to Jorge's Midwest Ponderosa-izing, said: >But how much time did you actually spend there ? I'm curious as to >what experiences you had while there, (or didn't have) that would >make you dis a whole section of the country this way... Another topic I missed. But I'll jump in anyway, because, well, I can? I currently live in St. Louis, and really have lived in different parts of the Midwest all of my life. I have to say that I don't really like it. I mean, it's alright I guess...Chicago is probably my favorite spot in all of it. But it's all very conservative here, compared to many areas I'd rather be in (like the northwest). I've met some cool people here, certainly, but by and large most of the people I've encountered just aren't that interested in things that move me. I don't even think I can properly annunciate what I feel about the area. I guess it's like everything else. You have to take the good with the bad, and different places have different goods and bads. I just know that there are certain intangible things about this place that make me want to move. Natalie, on reading: >it hurts terribly when you can't savor something you have always >loved. but i think i am finally getting the old passion back. and > >maybe, if i make time to read every night, i will once again become > the >little bookworm i used to be. i miss the old me :( Don't miss the old you! Just keep making the new you someone you like better! And keep reading. :) I'm 100% convinced that reading makes you a better person. I'm glad I got rid of cable, since without it, I literally get no channels (I prolly would with an antenna, but...). I've started reading again, and I love the way it engages my mind, imagination, vocabulary. I'm hoping it will be a stepping stone to improving upon my writing, which is just not worth a damn at this point. But even if it doesn't, reading is just so damn entertaining, intellectually. Jeeze-o-peats! Another book! Okay, I'm going, but I have one final thought, and wouldn't you know, it's Tori related! I've been listening to BfP quite a bit lately, and I don't know if I ever gave it the attention it deserves. It's very disturbing to me, in its bitter anger. That must have been a very hard time for her. I think I could have used that album during my breakup, but Tori wasn't on my mind at that time. Women weren't on my mind at that point. I listened to a lot of Barenaked Ladies. You can see those guys as silly, but some of the quiet, off-handed lyrics they deliver are razor sharp! "She thought I'd come back, but I wouldn't want to seem like other guys." SLAP! "I love you more than I did the week before I discovered alcohol." SLAP! And then of course the whole song "Told You So." You could just skip the whole song and merely say Fuck You. Anyway, I'm off to listen to Boys for Pele again. I'm know it's angry, and I'm not, but it's mesmerizing to me nonetheless. :) And I wanna be mesmerizing too. Okay, I'm off to listen to Liz Phair as well. :) Kevin _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:33:52 -0500 From: "ami" <amik@il.freei.net> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: cd5??? am i the only idiot that does not know what the hell a cd5 is???? -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 19:51:56 -0700 From: violet@torithoughts.org To: ustour@torithoughts.org Cc: torinews@smoe.org, precious-things@smoe.org, rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: poetry contest, winner will meet Tori (Much thanks to TTer Carissa for letting us know about this poetry contest at Alloy.Com.) http://www.alloy.com/winprizes/contests/toristurn/tori.stm Enter our poetry sweepstakes for your chance to win a trip for two to Los Angeles, on September 25th, to meet Tori and see her live in concert. Tori Amos is judging this month's poetry contest at Alloy.com! One way-lucky winner -- the one who dazzles Tori the most -- will score a FREE trip for two to Los Angeles, California, to meet Tori backstage, and see her perform live (with Alanis Morissette!) on Saturday, September 25 -- just four days after her new CD drops! But that's not all: Three second-place winners will receive cool Tori gift packs. Major, huh? So what are you waiting for -- enter your poetic masterpiece in the running now! Since Tori's new CD, to venus and back, is totally on the cosmic love tip, she's looking for poems about starry nights, soul mates, destiny, and all that deep stuff. PS: All you Cornflake Girls (and guys!) better boogie -- this cool contest ends September 10! And while you're at it, find out where you catch Tori and Alanis live on their 5 1/2 Weeks Tour this fall! Violet xoxox -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 02:55:22 GMT From: "The Wicked Witch of the East" <delirium1479@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: secrets A little bit of poetry for you all. Please tell me what you think. I might submit it to Alloy.com to see if I'll win and meet Tori Amos. Who knows? Maybe there is a god.... Secrets His face contains secrets There the world is hidden Beneath his eyes lie the answers to desperate prayers Behind his lips lay the whispered conclusions by authors long dead Softly folded in his hair are the mysteries of the pyramids Of birdsongs and Atlantis within his silken night Shrill predictions once sung by prophets create the roses on his cheekbones And floating on his breath there drifts the meaning of life And on that ocean, sweet love, there sails my heart Drifting on the secret rivers, your sea of riddles and dreams There my spirit has settled Waiting for you to find me _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:03:24 -0400 From: Rusen <rusen@nbn.net> To: arty-turners <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Birth Announcement Happy tidings and greetings to all! My webpage, The Sky Cathedral, has been born. You can find it at: http://homepages.go.com/~skycathedral/Opening.html in it you can find my online journal of sorts, Circles Again. There's also some kewl stuff on music, art, writing, and my little business, Whiteraven Pottery and Artworks. You are invited to drop, peruse the site, and of course, SIGN THE GUESTBOOK. :) If i missed anyone that you know would be interested in seeing my website, by all means forward this message to them...i want to get 10,000 hits like that Paff girl. ;) enjoy Bethany -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:56:55 PDT From: "Natalie Aubele" <jrmint_69@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: "so pure" Fragments1 said: >you have got to love "so pure". i don't >care how crappy of a songwriter alanis is now, or how much of a >raspberry >rip-off it is, or how cheesy the video is, the song is so >wonderfully, >pathetically great. no way! have you heard "supposed former infatuation junkie"? the whole thing is pretty lame, and "so pure" is one of its worst songs. it's much too *upbeat* for alanis. what happened to the queen of rage? "jagged little pill" kicked ass! i'm almost sorry she's gone through the whole *spiritual awakening* thing, cuz it's totally killed her music! this is one instance where *inner pain* really was a good thing. i know...i shouldn't say that; alanis is a person and i should be happy that she's happy. but...you know...just saying her music sucks now. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 00:06:37 EDT From: SirenGrrrI@aol.com To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: The chick with braids. Russell stated: <<have I mentioned I may be jetting to NY for Lecy? Damn the things a girl can make you do....specifically THAT girl, and specifically a raspberry lollipop......>> to which Elisha replies: Lollipop, lollipop, oh la la la lollipop ::ba da dum dum:: Russell again stated: <<as long as I'm mentioning Lecy......you have got to love "so pure". I don't care how crappy of a songwriter alanis is now, or how much of a raspberry rip-off it is, or how cheesy the video is, the song is so wonderfully, pathetically great. and she's supposedly using it as her encore. EVERY NIGHT. Hell yes. I mean, you gotta love someone who enunciates "su-pos-ed form-er infat-u-a-tion jun-kie". anyway. Love you when you dance. when you freestyle in trance. So-o pure. such an ex-pres-sion..>> To which *I* say: "Fuck you"... (that's not a threat) Talked to Russell today. I love him. simple as that. He called my when Tori played 'Bliss' at his show... he's so damn wonderfully great and stuff.. wow. The *damn smashing* Anastasia wrote: <<Just thought i'd say to Elisha (sirengrrrl) that you kick incredible ass. The little 'I hate Tori' post was hilarious! It was probably not meant to be funny, but i still thought it was pretty damn amusing.>> Oh it was shear HELL!!!!! I never want to live through that again, but all in all, it was a humourous experience. Glad it gave you a laugh, my pain and suffering brought a smile to someone's face.. it was all worth it... (just kidding) Hey Jorge . Yeah nothing important to say, really, just 'hey' Oh yes, Robbie Williams is sexy... and damn talented too. Hey Robbie, let *me* entertain you... ::wink:: All right, I need to go to freakin' bed. um.. okay, So Pure stuck in my head.. someone, I need a GUN!!!! yo. Eeeeelisha -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:00:00 -0500 From: Simon Booth <simon@texas.net> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: tuesday posting replies: from rikki (liquidice): "HEY ALL... DID ANYONE WATCH FANATIC W/ TORI? OM SORRY BUT, THE PERSON THEY CHOSE....SHE WAS NICE BUT, I FEEL WELL IN A SENSE WAS NOT THE RIGHT PERSON TO MEET TORI.." I wonder if some of that was more an MTV thing than her- are the people meeting their favorite celebs told to throttle back their enthusiasm? next time the MTV producers need to be properly informed of the protocol that should be observed when someone meets tori hehehee :) (you mean kneeling before her and saying 'I am awed by your presence, Exalted One' isn't necessary? :) ) abigail wrote: "Simon, I like your poetry a lot :)" thanks :) from juan: 'Simon, I had not seen your poetry and I am deeply impressed and moved by it... wow, it is too good for me to describe in a few words the beauty and depth that I found in it; congratulations, I am truly amazed in a very good way to read this and more to finally find in your messages something other than fighting about the hate and the good or bad of therapy, psychology, etc.' thanks :) after really taking a long look at everything, things really are better nowadays depsite what one person tries to tell me. I'm looking for another psychiatrist- there needs to be a proper balance between a 'yes person' and someone berating one harder after they make progress. The results might be unexpected but at the same time are acceptable knowing the doctor was objective about it. and keeping in mind your reminder that some are good and some are bad. 'I believe that it mostly is up to the patient and how honest you are to yourself, how you embrace a problem and how much you really want to solve it... if you do not want to for any given reason, not even the best therapist in the world will be able to "cure" you)' very true. Simon -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:14:00 PDT From: "Wilson Picket" <du69ke@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Cc: precious-things@smoe.org, precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: Where is Tori's Realm of Mp3's web site. What happened to the Tori Amos-A Realm of Mp3's web site. I need live MP3s... Last I know, it used to be at: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/5612/tori/prob2.htm [Note from Violet: Danica has had to deal with a lot of hassle from services not willing to host MP3s or deal with the traffic such sites create. It's been quite difficult for her to find an affordable space large enough to hold all the MP3s -- they do take up a *ton* of space. She considered the option of offering a handful of songs each week, rotating the line-up on a regular basis, but she decided she just wouldn't be happy with that kind of compromise. She'd wants to be able to keep all of them up all the time. She's still looking for a new home for the site.] -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:41:35 PDT From: "John Kwiatkowski" <stickboy0@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: bliss of another kind SO I got the bliss single this morning... I'm warming up to the song more, but really what made the single worth it was the two live tracks! wow are they beautiful, and the quality is so great! less than a month til the album, and a little more than a month til i see her!!! *hugs* john (ps i just completely redid my webpage *hint hint*) http://members.tripod.com/~neverblue _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:38:16 MDT From: "Doug Smeath" <heyjupiter1@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Welcome to Barnes and Noble, the LOOOOVE ZONE! Here's a crazy story. Sunday these two guys came in to work. They were looking for some book, and this kid was helping them. I walked by just as the kid was about to mess up a potential sell-- we didn't have the book, and he offered to order it, but the guys needed it in three days and it would have taken five days to order. So the kid was about to send them on their way, and I said, "Wait, it says we already have two of those books on order; it's modelled, which means that we try to keep two copies of it on hand all the time. When we sell one of the copies, the computer automatically orders a new one. Since both were sold, we have two copies on the way. Depending on when the others were sold, we may get them here in time for you." So I checked the sales detail and found out it should get here by Tuesday at the latest. Anyway, I told them to check back, and they thanked me and left. Yesterday I got to work and Krista, a girl who works there, said, "A guy called for you about five minutes ago. I said you would be in in just a little while." I wondered who it was and said it might be my dad. But I called my dad and he said it wasn't him. So a few hours later, the phone rings and I get it: "Thank you for calling Barnes and Noble in Sandy, this is Doug, can I help you?" "Hi, Doug. How are you doing? Do you remember when me and another guy came in yesterday looking for a book, The Four Steps to Something Financial Something...? You were so helpful...?" "Yeah, I think I remember that." "I was wondering if you could look that up and see when it would get there?" "Okay. Do you remember the exact title?" (I had been looking it up while we were talking, and I couldn't find it.) "No, I don't remember... Um, I can go look it up and then call you right back." So he hangs up, and five minutes later, he calls back. "Hi, Doug. It's me again. Do you remember why I am calling?" "Yeah, I do. Did you get the title?" "Yeah. That's not why I am calling. I don't think you understand why I am calling. Do you understand why I am calling?" "No, I guess not..." "Okay, sorry for calling. Have a good night. Bye." And he hangs up, before I can figure out what he's talking about. So, about an hour later, just before closing, I get a page: "Doug, you have a call on line 3, Doug line 3 please." I get sort of nervous, and I go get the phone. "Hi, Doug, it's me again. Look, I just wanted to clear up what I was calling about. Yesterday we came into the store, and you were so nice and so helpful, and, well, it seemed like there was some radar going on among the three of us. Do you know what I mean?" "I think so." (Assuming that he means gaydar but didn't want to say that until he was pretty sure I knew what he was talking about.) "You do? So you're family then?" ("Family" is how some semi-weird fags refer to other gay people. :-)) "Yeah, I am." "Oh you are? Cool. So, yeah, I was wondering if you were, were ever available, or anything." And I said no. For a couple of reasons. One was that a girl I work with was hovering there, by now very curious about the whole mystery, and I didn't want to make some kind of crazy love connection right there in front of her. Another was that I am leaving for school soon, so I am really not available to go out. Another is that the whole situation was kind of weird. And another, of course, was Ray, the guy I like so much and WILL have, dammit. :-) So anyway, I mean, it would have been cool to have a date, to meet a cute guy at work and go out with him, but oh well. :-) So I told the girl what had happened, and the rest of the night, that was the joke, about how I have this stalker and how he was cute and how I turned him down. :-) Doug _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:40:08 PDT From: "MRS. MACPHISTO" <a_siren_song@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: SEATTLE TORI TICKET 10 OCT 1999 HELLO TORILAND, I have decided that I wont be able to go to the Seattle,WA Tori show. I am going to Portland, Oregon the night before. I am selling my ticket for exactly what I paid for it. I don't believe in scalping tickets. It cost me $29.00+$6.25 service charge. (I hate ticketmaster)=$32.25 I will include the receipt. I have traded on ebay before so I am reliable. Check out my feedback under "mrsmacphisto".(www.ebay.com) I have to admit I am very disapointed I am not able to go. I was so excited about going to two Tori shows. Well basically whoever emails me first will ba able to have the ticket. I want to work it the same way ebay works. Buyer sends check or money order then I will send the ticket the next day. Please help me out I don't wan't this ticket to go to waste. Peace and Love, Angi _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:47:34 EDT From: PokaDot420@aol.com To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: mps3 i was wondering if anyone could direct me towards an mp3 site with the new songs bliss, suede, 1000 oceans i've seen her perform suede and bliss but i could only make it to two shows, atlanta and nashville and she didn't perform 1000 oceans which i really want to hear at eather one of them. but yeah i really would like to be able to find their mp3s. and i have a small request, i wasnt able to pick up a tori program at the shows i was at because they were sold out, so if anyone would mind picking one up for me i would be very greatful. :) -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:43:04 -0700 From: "Emily Williams" <klar@iac.net> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: voyeur no more Okay, I have to quit lurking for a few reasons. 1) I'm way too impatient to keep quiet like a good little girl for a whole month or however the hell long you're supposed to keep quiet until it is considered "acceptable" to begin posting. 2) I got to go see Tori in Nashville this past weekend with (okay, she'll probably be pissed but I'm gonna name drop...hee-hee) my bestest friend, Ann-Meredith, who also posts here, and I just wanted to share my excitement about seeing her on her birthday. The show was fabulous--did not stick around for whats-her-face. She did Landslide and it tore me all to pieces. Even though my evil, nasty ex-boyfriend was there the show was good. I won't even get started on *him*. Only I will say that if you metaphorically (or seriously) equate tori with religion then his presence is blasphemous. and... 3) a question posed in the last digest asked if there were any songs that referred to Neil in From the...CGH. I may be on crack but I could swear that in one of the songs (I can't remember which one, although if anybody thinks this is right or is REALLY curious I'll go figure it out later) she says something like "bring Neil his drink" or something to that effect. Obviously not included in the lyrics provided. Possibly not included at all. Okay, thats about all I had to say. Sorry if I've broken any rules of "netiquette" or whatever. Sorry if I've written too much. Sorry Sorry Sorry, but THANK GOD I don't have to lurk anymore!!! I hate not being involved. And, aw shucks, y'all seem like such nice folks. (am I scoring any brownie points here?) Okay, I swear I'm finished now. Love and hugs, Emeline** (the newest newbie) -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:02:18 EDT From: Fragments1@aol.com To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: just...to... followup to my post about the 8/21 torishow... so i got a letter from maryann today... she basically wished me into a car wreck [i hear Caton now: " Crashhhhhhhhhhh "..which reminds me..do NOT listen to the binge e.p. for the first time whilst driving. you're liable to hit something]...and..i mean..it really fuckin' bummed me out..to oversimplify things. and lecy is trying to convince me that i'm not in the wrong. but i am. ...i think... i mean, this girl [maryann, not lecy] is soo fucking immature...and i can see it now...and i felt it in the tears i cried during cloud on my tongue.....and..it's like.......why do i allow myself to get so stepped on.... and lecy slapped me around and was like, "she's been a bitch to you. she wished for your serious injury and or death. she's fucking immature".... but..i mean...anyway. whatever. i now own both copies of the bliss single. anyone wanna buy the cheapy one that just has "hey jupiter"...? and..as far as the live disc goes...all i have to say is..NOTHING will beat ani's "living in clip"...but...i'm disappointed in the track list...especially if the good yet uneventful bliss beesides are any indication.....but..i'll wait and see. "suede" in and of itself will be worth the price. maybe i'm a 4 horse engine. -russ the ventrue -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:24:47 EDT From: BlosomStar@aol.com To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: those darn gummiebears always give me headaches *pout* but they look soo good ... red or clear, mushy but squishy when you lick them. ack and they have to be filled with the sugar that i can't eat. sooo tempting mmm *reaches for the asprin* so now summer's over, tori's playing, koba's telling us how we can't possibly get backstage :P and i'm still, oh yes i'm still trying to avoid writing a paper ... 8 days. yup i have 8 days. bueno. *exasperated sigh* (as i throw my head back to the hallway "yes dad!!! i'm writing it right now!!!" ohright) to quote my favorite little guy, stick stickly (do they show him at *all* anymore?) anywho *~~~~~~~~~~* jessi >>Thats the way these things work....but every once in awhile, we talk about Tori. so there. Heheheh ohreally? we talk about *who*? hmm oh yeah that girl touring with alanis, didn't mp3 set poor alanis up to something like that? i dunno guys. alanis starts at 10?!? i might ... i might *have* to leave after tori. i thought i'd be courteous and stay, but two of these shows are hours away from my little home ... on nights were i still have to find some way to do homework and get to school the next morning. i feel so bad. ahwell ;) *~~~~~~~~~~~~* rachel (of the raspberries or is my mind gone completely?) >>WHEN THE FUCK IS THE REST OF THE FUCKING WORLD GOING TO REALIZE THAT SHE'S FUCKING AWESOME? well since i can't type it ;) i thought i'd cut and paste it. yes, she is. just a thought. while skimming through some reviews for the florida shows (yes i am a bit curious, so shoot me) i noticed that many reviewers (?) mentioned the different auras between tori's performance and alanis's. not only the way they performed, but about how the audience reacts-- which, imho is an important part of the performance--if i'm playing to some dead unreactive audience i'm obviously going to play a song a lot differently than if i played it to an audience that can pull something out of my music, whatever it is. be it one of those guys with long black hair hanging over his face saying, "wow i dig it" or someone who can pull more--often more than is given. what i love about tori's shows is how, seemingly no matter where she is, she has a reactive audience. however, other artists (who *ahem* shall remain nameless *coughsALwheezeANsniffleIS*) while they are perfectly decent, their music is okay ... but the audience seems more like someone twisting his ear to the radio to hear that billboard number one hit a little louder. wow i haven't even seen a show and i'm already commenting :) but ... i will say that radiohead, an amazing band that rivals tori in so many ways (and wins sometimes) could never blow me away in concert as much as tori can. half the audience at the radiohead concerts are radio-listeners-wow-karma-police-is-a-cool-song and for every song *but* karma police they sit and look bored out of their minds. i pull from their concert as much as i can--but it just doesn't have the *atmosphere* that explodes the minute tori starts and lingers hours after the show. (see? i can talk about tori, really i can :) *~~~~~~~~~~* YAY!!! Sarah has Charmkins!!! I thought I was the only one who still knew what those were!!! Hehe - got any she-ra princess of power things? *sigh* my mom insisted on selling my ENITRE collection three years ago-I was seriously distressed by it. (lol now I really feel like a 4 year old) *~~~~~~~~~~~~* Miss sunshine (maybe it was somebody else, but when i went back to find it my mind got confused and mumbled :P) >>i know there was something about the velvets, but i never Did find it. Wow I *just* realized this yesterday!! it's in *hotel* and i'm sure just about everybody on the list is going to say this before i do, but i thought i'd be a little spiffy myself and say it too :P so ha. i finally pulled out my lyric book for ftcgh and found myself amazed by how wrong i was on so many lyrics! even though i now know it's "where are the velvets" I swear i still can't hear it. *~~~~~~~~~~~~* Koba >>i like batting in the 2-spot, i think hah you got stuck in first in that digest. and almost last here tooo bad >>ya gotta like THAT! *~~~~~~~~~~~~~* Abigail >>I'm happy right now as is. for some reason reading that line just made me smile -- someone saying they're *happy* godforbid! (i'm absolutely joking btw but it was cute) :) i'm so glad things are going good for you sweets. oh yes and concord. i guess i never got around to even looking at where my seats are (really odd i know i still have no clue) ok. sec 101 row T. mhm. means a hell of a lot to me, but they're somewhere :) wow had a lot of tori stuff in that post, eh? hmmmm eat some ice cream *valerie* *i guess i'm an underwater thing so i guess i can't take it personally* *there's a sea secret in me and it's plain to see it is rising* -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 00:00:39 -0400 From: "anna sunshine ison" <queenpie@mindspring.com> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: the midwest is creepier than you will ever know well after all my i-am-the-new-girl-i-know-best, i am apparently continuing to post weird things twice. forgive me all. i do not mean to be a wicked creature. i have just returned from seeing sideways x o rhinocerus i, or sweetie dancy redhead, or tori in charlotte. it was lovely. i am no good at describing concerts so i will let someone else do it. i Will say that i had stupid luck and my boyfriend and i arrived at the meet and greet spot just to hear her say BYe! just as we were nearing and then we saw the back of her head. but oh well. she was lovely and wore pink and they spelled neil gaiman's name wrong in the program. hee hee. so then, is liquid diamonds the neil referance from choirgirl hotel? i was SO curious and someone kept saying "it's something about the velvets" so if there's another song let me know. otherwise, good call smarty girl. megan, have you read any jonathan carroll? anybody, have you read any jonathan carroll? anybody, what Are you all reading these days? that was the funnest part of ole rdt. for my part, i am snacking on _road fever_ by tim cahill. tim cahill is high on my badass list and apparently has a guiness book of world.. record. but tomorrow i am going to the library and who knows what i shall return with. probably something weird about biology. apparently about ten years ago, jorge, with whom i can argue without offense said: > >" the midwest is a lot like Ponderosa Steakhouse. i want to know what kind of ponderosa steakhouses You've been to. and maybe there was a lot of connotative stuff i've missed but boy, i gottta argue with that. perhaps it is Because the midwest was originally so boring, but, far as i can tell, there are some of the best roadside attractions in the World there. can we forget: the corn palace the house on the rock the circus world museum wall drug store museums honoring houdini And weird medical appliances al capone's former hide out honey, give it up, the midwest could just beat you up. in fact, i think there are Two circus museums, there's one in peru.. indiana or illinois or something. and the house on the rock itself is actually my favorite place in the Whole world. better even than tiger balm gardens. has anyone heard of it? i will tell you the story next letter, in lots of ways it's like a tori song and don't doubt my ability to unite disparate subjects. now listen jorge, if you have been to the corn palace and are Still pulling this crap, i will have to doubt your sanity. but then maybe you've been to the World's Largest Ponderosa Steakhouse where you eat your food on horses and girls in pink wedding dresses serve you and the daily special is lightbulbs. midwest=surrealsville. i want to go to thailand. i am not scared off by claire danes. thank god there are still seedy places in the world and all of asia isn't singaporey (not that i don't want to go to singapore) with malls after malls (but of course also the ORiginal tiger balm gardens). i mean really, do you only want to go to places Claire Danes wants to go to? (if i can beat the record for dangling modifiers, i can be in the Same book as tim cahill.) Umbriel says: >+ yeah i really do like cindy lauper... hey now stop giggling thou >froward toad-spotted clack-dish!! > hell yeah. i saw cyndi lauper on american bandstand when i was in.. second grade or so and i said "when i grow up, i want to do what i want." i love her music still and i love that she is Absolutely cyndi lauper and she might be one of the few people that i would be abslutely terrified to meet because i love her so much. grr, too much posting for me. i bought mr cavin a teeshirt and he bought me a program and necklace so i am very stunning now. i want to get fake diamonds from the costume jewelery lady at the flea market and put my venus envy necklace on that. anyway, by cuties, i am a talker. lovelovelove tiger balm sunshine o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o *** Subliminal Day Off digest *** To POST messages to this list: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> To SUB or UNSUB: Send mail to <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with either "subscribe" OR "unsubscribe" in the subject of the message. 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