RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #975

RDT Right Now #975

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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 02:43:28 -0800
Subject: RDT Right Now #975
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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 00 : Issue #975 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o Lisa rules! [ "Juan Manuel Torreblanca" <cheefoos ] what you need is a boyfriend or a do [ Lisa071573@aol.com ] Sexual Chocolate [ Brian Cooper <ByteMe@smartchat.net. ] and that bitch Anne Murray too! [ "top meat" <topmeat@hotmail.com> ] *sigh*..... [ Fragments1@aol.com ] cheap tricks [ "Voss, Patricia" <patricia.voss@wil ] Hey, man.. it's not *MY* wet spot. [ Keith Shapiro <kdshap0@sac.uky.edu> ] erkyah badu's hat [ "arija*" <arija@attglobal.net> ] Gotta love those twin blades [ "Lora of the Hill People" <shmopkin ] went to a party last saturday night [ David Woodson <otma@chorus.net> ] Venus necklace envy [ "Jen Kingwell" <jen@boysforpele.zzn ] This made me so MAD!!! [ "Jen Kingwell" <jen@boysforpele.zzn ] sleepy time... [ Heather Cook <hc60@cornell.edu> ] Oops- [ Kate Naughton <elkato@labyrinth.net ] Ohh a reply to digest #967 [ Kate Naughton <elkato@labyrinth.net ] PS: please don't let him leave [ "Jorge Fernandez" <jorge518@bellsou ] ___________________________________________________________________ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Informa-Tori Informa-Tori Informa-Tori Informa-Tori Informa-Tori ___________________________________________________________________ No report today. ___________________________________________________________________ mark your calendar iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ___________________________________________________________________ Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 00:50:52 CST From: "Juan Manuel Torreblanca" <cheefooska@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Lisa rules! hey! lisa was talking about prop 22, and about that I have no comment cuz it's not even my country. However I do have something to say about something lisa said and I think it has a bit to do with it, first here's a quote. >about losing faith in your country?? welcome to my world...Hell is empty >and >all the devils are here...It makes me want to hide under a rock since no >one >in this country listens to reason. just one thing, anyone knows how many homophobia murders happened there in the US the year that Matthew Sheperd was killed? cuz, that was known all over and we were all angry... but here in Mexico, that very same year, there were over 200 murders just like that one. so I find it funny to see people there in a society that (aside from right wing or those conservative groups whatever) is much more open. and you complain about those things. and it is good. but there are so many things that you guys don't even worry about and here in Mexico people don't really talk that much about legalizing gay marriages because most of gay people are too scared to come out of the closet to begin with. I mean, I have some gay friends and yes there are gay clubs and all, but it is like totally underground and if someone looks gay in the street... must be prepared for mockery, rejection, and judgemental staring, at least. but that's just an outsider's opinion. >so Eyes Wide Shut is soft porn?? maybe I'll have to rent it...any >lesbians?? mmhh... I don't remember. But I DO remember some AMAZING women. so at least to feast your eyes, it's worth it... and I think it's a good movie... mysterious... far from being Kubrick at his best... but good. >so hey Juan - did you get the tape I sent you?? just curious.. let me know >how the search for Mexico shot glasses goes.. YES!!!!!! I just got it yesterday!!! I was so happy!!! I'm halfway through watching it!!! and I'm so ashamed that I haven't sent your stuff yet... I'm so sorry, I have been so busy, but I won't forget!! You rule! :) so music is great! it can save the world from a black cloud. my life is so much fun lately I can't believe it... I am happier than I've ever been probably. I'm glad I found some time to write here today. take care saludos juan el chifuska detaramede ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 02:08:47 EST From: Lisa071573@aol.com To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: what you need is a boyfriend or a dog hey amanda...I think there are only some of the Ani shows where it's a triple bill with Greg Brown and Gillian Welch..I think the rest of the time she is headlining.. hey dougyfishysmeathy..that IS a weird story..the first time I saw Thelma and Louise I was just in awe..I never saw it when it came out (91??) but I finally decided to rent it because of Tori. The previews for it (from what I remember in 91) portrayed it as two girls just raising hell..I didn't realize it was a movie about rape. My favorite line is "we still woulda gotten in trouble. Our lives woulda been ruined a whole lot worse than they are now. And I'm not sorry that sonofabitch is dead. I'm just sorry it was you that did it and not me." yeah bethany..I saw Ani last summer on the F-word tour and she totally rocked :) that was the first time I heard To the Teeth and Hello Birmingham. well so I don't know anything about the 4 police officers who shot the Hatian guy 41 times.. now what is the difference between manslaughter and 2nd degree murder?? koba? sometimes it seems they focus on the all-out higher charges when they could just nail the guys on the lesser charges.. hey Simon..no, my dad hasn't gotten his clubs back... he went to a couple of used sporting stores but hasn't done much else.. I told my mom they should post a reward at least to try and get back a couple of them. Like he has (or had) this Arnold Palmer or Jack Nicklaus wedge that is like 30 yours old and this putter he'd had forever.. *sigh* criminals suck. oh and Charlie, if you're playing golf with my dad's clubs I'm gonna kick your ass... so patricia..did you have the affair?? I've never cheated on anyone but I have been the cheatee on more than one occasion... so I saw this really cool folk chick on Friday.. my friend and I had never heard of her but went on a whim and she totally rocked.. so we went to see her in Davis on Saturday night. Her name is Allette Brooks and she's cute :) oh yeah, she writes some good songs too. what I need is to look in the mirror and see my own face what I need is give myself any name that I choose Lisa -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:56:48 +1000 From: Brian Cooper <ByteMe@smartchat.net.au> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Sexual Chocolate Yes, I'm still here. I've been busy/slack. I've caught up so now it's your turn to suffer. Things I've learnt/done in the last 8 or so weeks... I know now not to paint outdoors in the middle of an Australian summer. It's a little pointless when you're having to stop by 10:30am because the paint is dry within 30 seconds. For those that were paying attention, I did meet Lavs the day before Valentines. It's the best we could do without making Mr. Jones too suspicious. For a quick summary of the day's events, well it was a day of going in, out, up, down, side to side and around about. I must say hanging from that trapeze wasn't easy. And the things that girl can do with alphabetti spaghetti! I did feel a bit off colour next day, so she probably drugged me and took my sperm again. That pregnancy announcement must be coming soon now. Needless to say I was rendered speechless for a couple of weeks. What else? An e-mail friend from Boston asks me for a favour. It's like, "There's this friend of mine who's going to Australia for a holiday. She'll be looking for somewhere to stay. I know you've got a spare room and I've told her you're a nice guy and have given her your contact details. She's 23, a model and she's a real livewire. I know it's short notice, but could you help her out?" My response was... "HELLO???? Did you say she's 23, a model and a real livewire and is looking for somewhere to stay when in Sydney? You're sending her my way and you call it asking a favour? Ask me favours more often!!!!!" Well she got in touch with me and I met her at the airport at sparrow's fart. What was I thinking? I don't even get up that early for work. I played tour guide around Sydney and had a fun day. She bogged off to Adelaide a couple of days after that, just my luck. What else? My hard drive screeched to a halt. While I didn't really lose much data, it did cause me a great deal of trouble when my second drive didn't want to run as slave to the new one. I guess the drives sorted out who wanted to be on top by themselves. For those of you that are awake to the subject title, yes, I'm coming to America. My US domination tour starts in LA at the end of May and heads north and east until I hit Boston in mid to late June. Warning to Meghan MQ, I'll be in Boston for a week, plan to be out of town now. Don't say I didn't warn you. Onto replies... Pickup lines. The polite one... "I suppose a fuck is out of the question?" and that old earthy Aussie favourite... "Wanna root?" In #971, El Kato wrote... >John "I Look Like A Particularly Ugly Garden Gnome" Howard You do a great disservice to gnomes worldwide. I was glad I talked my manager out of sending me to Canberra to do field service for a week, otherwise I'd be working in the same building as that "gnome". Patricia - before you think about an affair, think about this... you must work under the assumption you will be caught. Think of why you married your husband and weigh that up against the idea of him leaving you. Or, consider how you would feel if he was the one having an affair. Onto #972, Johnny, not to be confused with Howard, Topmeat decloaked with photon torpedos blazing. While I agree with your sentiments re arguments, it does get tedious when it's been dragging on for months. Glad you like crotch scum... all we need is that Bellson chick back and we can get down to it. Lavs has fantasies about Brett Lee. I'm sure 99% of this list has know idea what you're talking about. I just hope in your dream he doesn't kiss as fast as he bowls. I always said you were a cricket groupie. El Kato again... it takes me 90min one way to get to work too. I've been doing it for 9.5 years now. You get used to it. I find it's quality time for reading or listening to my walkman. I just wish the trains weren't so disgusting. I must say I found digest #973 disturbing on many levels. I guess it's tear someone a new arsehole season again??? I thought things were getting too touchy-feely recently anyway. On that note, I hope things are settling down for Jim, Valerie, Lora, Elisha\Lecy and anyone else that's been having a rough trot lately. Good to see Patricia, Simon and Kristina back again too *waves*. I'm outta here. Brian NP: Other Star People - Diamonds In The Belly Of The Dog -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 09:13:19 EST From: "top meat" <topmeat@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: and that bitch Anne Murray too! Best Dressed Category? Trey Parker & Matt Stone! Trey was even hotter than Jennifer Lopez. I just wished they would have won so that they could have livened up that show. The highlight for me was Robin Williams doing Blame Canada. I'm not a fan of his but he did justice to the song. Okay, enough of that... Hey Bethany! I'm gonna have to take your recommendation for Joni's Don Juan c.d. with a grain of salt. Something tells me that you're a little biased towards Ms. Mitchell's work. ;) Actually, I'm itching to get more Joni but i gotta wait until payday. Hi Cheefooska Juan! Yeah, I unlurk and spew at the mouth - that's what happens when you hold it in for a few years. I'll try to refrain from posting too often. But I gotta tell ya - I got a whole lot of opinions that I feel compelled to share with the world and I may not be able to control myself. But I'll try. Hey Simon! Zoloft dreams? I have never been able to remember dreams until I started taking Zoloft. And you are SO right - they are the freakiest dreams ever! Not that I'm complaining - it's kinda cool to be entertained in my sleep. And I always know during the dreams that they are dreams so I really don't get too upset over the weirdness going on in them. Though there was this one dream with a certain red haired goddess (just for you Simon) and strawberries and her husband that kinda wigged me out a bit. Damn, it's past nine in the morning. I guess I gotta start actually working now. Time to sign off. 'Bye Topmeat 'give me peace, love and a hard cock' - tori Oh yeah - now playing: Hounds of Love - Kate Bush ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:48:53 EST From: Fragments1@aol.com To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: *sigh*..... i'm none to thrilled about tom cruise not getting an oscar for his performance in "magnolia"....argh. argh and damn and blast. that was the only time tom has EVER made me feel...and the end of the movie..his little one minute with his dad..i cried more then i think i've ever cried at any movie....... but hell..at least "american beauty" got what it deserved...and thank goddess that damn toy story song didn't take home shit...but...well..in my opinion, tom got cheated. yeah. -russ -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:06:13 -0600 From: "Voss, Patricia" <patricia.voss@wilcom.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: cheap tricks first things first. let's clear this up. Arija >vaginas are really cool. no, hon. vagina is not cool. pussy is. vagina conjures up a frightening image. was anybody totally over the academy awards? At 10pm, i shut it down. too overwhelming and boring. the highlights IMO were billy crystal's "i see white ppl" (& it was nice to see everybody laughing about it) and robin william's "blame it on canada." what's the low-down on angelina jolie and her brother? Every awards show i've ever seen her on since she won for "Gia" involved her bringing her brother to the shows, bringing him up on stage, and making a comment to/ for him. My guess is he has a terminal illness.. Any word on this? Simon >>I've got a 'rap sheet' covering the period 1982-95 detailing the hatemongering I took part but that's no excuse for anybody to shoot off their mouth, when worse things can be said about them. And Dennis? i'm whore-hey's slut and he loves it... never test my patience, sweetie, i'm high maintenance Patricia -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:00:49 -0500 (EST) From: Keith Shapiro <kdshap0@sac.uky.edu> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Hey, man.. it's not *MY* wet spot. >man, that couch hasn't even smelled the same since Shapiro left... But wait.. who else was there right about that time? That's right. Becky Wall. So don't go blaming any random smells (or stains) on me just because you don't want Venice to know what *really* happened. :op You know I love ya, man. To some of you who might have been wondering where the fuck I've been (um, anyone? no? oh well) I've been consumed with school and work. Not that that doesn't mean I haven't had time to write a post, just that I've not been so inclined. That and just the huge lack of anything for me to go off about. I graduate from college in December. Pretty fucked up, really. I've been here for what feels like an eternity. It's somewhat exciting that in 9 months I'll be in a moving truck heading for Florida. I'm really starting to get what my older friends told me when I first started school. I was lost and confused, not really sure where I wanted to go with my life. I knew I wanted out. But things really do solidify if you have give them the time to do so. A year ago I had no idea where I was going when(if?) I graduated or even when I would finally be getting out. But, over the last 7 months I've really start exploring what it is I want to do with my life. And it definitely didn't involve Lexington. I've been all over this country following that Tori chick around. I've seen a lot of places and a lot of people. And I did finally find a place I was happy with. Now, I'm not saying I'll spend the rest of my life in Florida, but definitely right now it's where I need to be. Besides, it's a hell of a lot warmer than Kentucky. There's just something appealing about being out on New Year's Eve in shorts. And I'll be able to drop in on JessiPaff on a regular basis. "and I said, 'What a coincidence, darling, cause I was just thinkin about skinning you like a deer.'" Keith S. -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- Keith D. Shapiro * Clouds descending keither@iname.com * I'm not policing what you think and dream http://take3.dreamhost.com/ * I run into your thought from across the room AOL: kdshap0 ICQ: 1978801 * just another trick can I weather this? -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 19:37:35 -0500 From: "arija*" <arija@attglobal.net> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: erkyah badu's hat valerie- i fell in love with adrienne rich this yr. have you read "living in sin'"? i had to do a paper on it analyzing the way the sound and language contributed to the overall meaning. its amazing what you can find if you look hard enough. also, is your ts eliot quote from "the love song of j alfred prufrock"? i can't remember. how much did i love roberto begnini at the oscars? how much do i love that man? "pedro almodovar makes begnini look like an english teacher." yay billy crystal. "you know, despite everything, i'm still the coolest guy in the room." and hilary swank..."mom, living out of the car for 3 months really paid off." i guess she figured it worked for jewel.....no, i really like hilary swank and i'm glad she won. wouldn't have it been great though if annette bening had to drag her pregnant ass on stage and then by some freak of nature she went into labor. it would have made for an intersting night. some one said >Reviving Ophelia by Mary Pipher ugh. my mother swears by that book. but Ophelia Speaks isn't that bad, actually. speaking of Ophelia, i'm in love with Hamlet we had to write a sonnet for english. feedback? That light so brilliantly at work within, Not close enough for fingertips to snatch; So make thy wish, and then rush to begin To weave thy steady net for star to catch. Consume`d are thine eyes by that which burns So bright it seems alone in life's night sky, But if thou blinks, thy hearts as quickly learns Ten thousand stars the darkness occupy. Lest thou forget, thy love is too a star. She'll kiss away thy tears and melt thy woe, And never from thy grasp be very far: A home she's found and has no cause to go. Though wishing lights eventually grow pale Thy star's embracing love will never fail. arija* -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 20:09:50 CST From: "Lora of the Hill People" <shmopkins@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Gotta love those twin blades Twice the muss half the fuss. Okay. I kinda instantly regretted my last post. (Well not instantly but...) I figured the best thing would be to forget about it. And I don't really see the big problem cuz I'm only hurting myself, rigth? Right. So I'll go back to writing happy well-adjusted posts. But don't get me wrong. I really appreciate your concern. And I hope it's okay that I'm gonna disregard all your advice for me to see a dr., get therapy, etc. It isn't gonna happen. Ever. So let's move on... Jorge: whoever guesses that lyric gets my undying affection for a day... Haven't you done this before? Does anyone actually guess these? Loria: And Eric looked pretty cool too, especially with his hair cut and all. Is it just me or has he just not aged in the last 7 years or so? He looks sooo much better with the haircut. And he hasn't aged. Maybe he's like Dick Clark and he's found the fountain of youth. Someone said something about even Tori album years. Do you remember? (I can't find your post for the life of me and I don't remember exactly what it said. Sorry.) Well I'm gonna respond to that if anyone remembers. It's been my general observation that albums are released every two years. (Think of Tori's releases. '92, '94, '96...) And since TVAB (the accidental album) broke that I'm guessing the next album will be 2001. Speaking of Tori, is she ever gonna have another tour and album? I kinda got the impression that this past tour was like the last hurrah. But maybe that's just me. Thanks to everyone who wished me a happy birthday. That was really rockin' of you. I've recently gotten into Ani. (And you're all thinking 'well it's about time!') Got her only on mp3 though. I'm thinking about getting Little Plastic Castle. Unless someone can recommend a better one. And I'm hoping to see her live but I've got no one to take me. Sucky I know. Grrrr....I hate this dink ass town. I can't meet anyone with good taste in music. (Actually I can't meet anyone good taste or no.) I'm watching the Btm2. I really like it. Needed to be longer though. I liked all the people talking that you never hear from. Except Marcel. I mean he was there but he only said one word I think. "busy". I expected him to talk more than Mark. *shrugs* Go fig. Simon: lora we all like you here *hug* :) Awwwww...you're sweet. :) Lavs: Lora, I remember feeling a bit like taht at high school... I jsut said 'fuck it' and was a loner till I left... I think I gave the wrong impression here. I'm not a loner. I'm not popular but I'm not a loner either. I've got some good friends (usually), nice family, and I generally get along with everyone. It's that I fear that no one genuinly (did I spell that wrong?) likes me. I feel like I have to project this happy aura all the fucking time. So I raelly have no real reason to be sad. I've got everything I need... except for the happiness part. But that's okay. I can live without being happy. No biggie. I gotta go and get ready for my dance class. See y'all later. otherwise known as the supreme space cadet, Lora ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ The Rules Have Changed...Get Paid to Surf the Web! Go to: http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=IDX-565 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:02:24 -0600 From: David Woodson <otma@chorus.net> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: went to a party last saturday night i didn't get laid i got in a fight uh huh it ain't no big thing 1: Actually, I went to a concert Saturday, didn't get laid *or* get in a fight. 2: I also went to a concert Friday night. 3: Friday's concert was Tina Turner. If she comes anywhere near where you live, don't hesitate to go! This was an awesome show . . . over two hours of great music. I've never spent so much on a concert ticket before (I could have seen Tori twice with change left over) but it was well worth it. The whole show absolutely rocked! 4: With all the artists out there writing lyrics about how great they are, it's nice to see someone who would have every right to, but doesn't have to, because everyone just knows. 5: It's also a good reminder as to why the celebrated divas of the 90's don't seem too impressive. 6: Saturday's concert was Paula Cole. 7: Wow . . . 8: Ok, this "A team" "B team" stuff . . . If by "A team", people mean the true originators of a musical style, than I'd have to agree that even Tori wouldn't make the A team. Kate Bush put out "The Kick Inside" 14 years before LE. In fact, it could well be said that the nineties have not produced any A team artists, and the eighties produced scant few outside of rap. Even artists who create major innovations within their styles haven't always created something totally unheard of. Grunge, for example, was just a repackaging of elements of punk, power pop and hard rock. It was a new model, but it didn't invent the wheel. Techno? Kraftwerk. Rave? Disco. 9: On the other hand, if "A" and "B" teams represent a measure of musical quality within a style, and how close the artist is to heralding the rise of the dreaded "C" team that signals a music scene's final descent into derivative self-parody, then I must say , , , Paula Cole . . . "B" team . . .MY ASS! 10: Paula Cole has an incredibly powerful voice, an awesome band backing her up and a passion and energy on stage that can't be faked. The little I had heard on the radio prior to this show does not do her justice. She did a cover of "Black Dog" during her first encore that could spontaneously reunite Led Zeppelin. I'll never consider missing another Paula Cole concert in my area again. Never. 11: Once again . . . most "professional" divas bore me. This is the real thing. 12: Now if only Bjork would show up remotely near the midwest US. . . 13: Both concerts also had great opening acts. Paula Cole is touring with a band called Wood, and Lionel Ritchie raised the roof of the Kohl Center prior to Tina's show. Who would have thought I'd be dancing to "Brick House" in the year 2000? NP: nothin' , cause the CD ended. (it was Wood, "Songs From Stamford Hill") -Dave " gadji beri bimba clandridi lauli lonni cadori gadjam a bim beri glassala gladride e glassala tufm i zimbra" -Talking heads -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 21:43:51 +1000 From: "Jen Kingwell" <jen@boysforpele.zzn.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Venus necklace envy <html><head><meta Name='keywords' Content='commtouch, pronto, mail, free email, free, branded, web based, free web based email, communications, internet, software, advertising banners, e-mail, free software'></head><body ><div align='left'><blockquote><blockquote><TT>      >>-El Kato Again                   "The Girl With the Venus Envy Necklace" Aaargh!!!!!! NOooooo!! I thought *I* was the only one in Australia who had this necklace!?!? My whole sense of identity.... shattered... Oh MAN. Here I was, just casually skimming through all the unread RDT's in my inbox, whilst writing my gamelan orchestra composition (it's mad - very mint) and I find I am not the only person in Australia funky and smug enough having the only VE necklace on the continent. (Of course, thinking about this I do realise it is highly unlikely that only one person, ie me, would have it anyway, but it was nice to think so all the same.) Now I shall just have to be the only person in Canberra to have it, which isn't nearly as exciting. BTW Kate (kat with the hat!!hahaha I crack myself up.Anyway) do you have a Choirgirl t-shirt? Do you have long hair (I think?) If so, I may have seen you last year (I just forgot to mention it until now - I was in Melbourne for a few days and I saw a girl with a Choirgirl t-shirt with long hair (I think) walking somewhere in the city. It wasn't until afterwards that I thought that could have been you... so... we could have seen each other and never known!! You swear it's a heart, Jen "The Other Girl With The Venus Envy Necklace" </TT> Tori-fy your e-mail at http://boysforpele.zzn.com __________________________________________________ ____ ZapZone brought to you by LookSmart: http://www.beseen.com/email/index.html </blockquote></blockquote></div></body></html> -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 23:05:40 +1000 From: "Jen Kingwell" <jen@boysforpele.zzn.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: This made me so MAD!!! <html><head><meta Name='keywords' Content='commtouch, pronto, mail, free email, free, branded, web based, free web based email, communications, internet, software, advertising banners, e-mail, free software'></head><body ><div align='left'><blockquote><blockquote><TT>Dennis, who seems to have proclaimed himself as morally superior to the rest of the human race, wrote:    "patricia wrote:                   > Speaking of "married life sucks ass." I have a dilemma all! Marriage doesn't                   > really suck ass, except when you lusting after an amazingly hot guy that you                   > shouldn't have, but know you CAN when the opportunity arises. And that                   > opportunity is presenting itself more and more each day. i'm so tempted; i                   > know i can get away with this without getting caught. and i know myself.                   > i'll never confess out of guilt. what should i do!?!??                   >                   slut." Dennis, I cannot CONCEIVE of a more self-aggrandizing, misogynistic, smug and narrow-minded person than yourself at the moment. Who the fuck do you think you are to make this judgement on Patricia (or anyone else, for that matter)? When she asked for advice on this list, she did it in good faith that she wouldn't get viciously slammed and verbally shat upon by people, like yourself, who think themselves as occupying some moral high ground and who do this because they depend upon making other people feel REALLY, REALLY bad. Is this is the kind of person you want to be? You have NO right, ever, to say that about anyone, let alone someone you don't know at all, and to say it in a public forum like this is just totally despicable. You don't even have any basis for slandering  Patricia, because she hasn't even done anything wrong, but in any case you still would be a vicious creep for trying to impose YOUR morals on her, and through this incident, on to the rest of the list as well. How dare you think that just because you're a man, you have a God-given right to label and pass judgement on any woman for the choices or mistakes they might make! What justification could you possibly have for what you wrote? I think you'd better apologise, big time. Ms Jenski </TT> <TT>Jenski  {\0/}            /_\ </TT> Tori-fy your e-mail at http://boysforpele.zzn.com __________________________________________________ ____ ZapZone brought to you by LookSmart: http://www.beseen.com/email/index.html </blockquote></blockquote></div></body></html> -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 13:11:26 -0500 From: Heather Cook <hc60@cornell.edu> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: sleepy time... I love sleepy time tea. I love tea in general. Just thought I'd share. Hey peeps....which are taking over the local grocery stores. Glad Easter's a month away. Our Local grocery store is AWESOME but scary with the candy. I shopped on Valentine's Day (the night actually...but I have a life I swear :( ) and they'd stripped the place of all Valentine's candy but there were tons of Easter candy out. IT WAS VALENTINE'S DAY!!! geez....but I love Wegmans anyways. Its sad when you realize one of the things you'll miss about college when you move on is the GROCERY STORE. sigh. i need to graduate. I'm back from spring break. And not sleeping again just like before in that blur of pneumonia/allergy hell. I think I'm allergic to something in my apartment. All I know is that I'm spending too much time at the health center, they're messing with my inhalers and now they won't fix them until after I see an allergist and become a human pin cushion. So...that's fine. I don't need to sleep until next week...really!!! Arrgh. Damn asthma. [the not sleeping is a result of a lack of oxygen due to not properly functioning lungs ... as if they ever have functioned properly] So I'll end my rant. All I know is that it sucks to toss and turn when you're exhausted.... I would not be a good insomniac. Sympathies to those that suffer similar night time distresses. yeah. life is. Busy. the kindergartners are crazy....spring fever is hitting full force. joy. nothing like 20 excited five year olds at 8am five days a week....and I want to do this for a living why? I'm just kidding, I really do love it. :) I had intelligent things to say after reading 4 digests in a row, but now i've forgotten them all. bummer. so later folks! np -- Fiona. When the pawn... heather -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 09:41:14 +1000 From: Kate Naughton <elkato@labyrinth.net.au> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Oops- While I love to see my name up there in lights on RDT, I'm afraid this is addressed to the wrong person... *sheepish look* > El Kato- *Hugs*, I feel ya, I think Laura (the bitchin' one) hey is right, > you should try to seek some help, don't go to a therapist thinking "god > this > quack is going to be such a fucking idiot who will try to relate me, even > though he has no clue." Just try to remember that the doctor is human too, > you might be surprised. If you want to talk, feel free to e-mail me any > time. > Sorry Lecy-Elisha... that was Lora that Laurahey was talking about there... (although it could apply to me, I have this idea where therapy is a good idea for everyone except me... ohhh long, long story). *hugs to all* *waves* take care, -El Kato "The Girl With The Funky Green Lace-Up Top That Might Be Inappropriate To The Weather" -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 11:02:19 +1000 From: Kate Naughton <elkato@labyrinth.net.au> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Ohh a reply to digest #967 Just in case no-one's solved this one for Abigail :) The 13th track, "You Oughta Know" at the end of "Jagged Little Pill" has a hidden song at the end of it, which is, you guessed it, "Your House", but there's a really long silence between "You Oughta Know" and "Your House". Just leave the CD running and it should play :) (as far as I know, happens with mine anyways *smile*) *waves all* -El Kato "The Girl With The Hat" -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 00:14:11 -0500 From: "Jorge Fernandez" <jorge518@bellsouth.net> To: "RDTRN" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: PS: please don't let him leave oh gawd...i've been sitting here reading through a BBS at www.nbc6.net concerning the Elain situation. i've been pretty infuriated all night. i'm sick and tired of having to deal with ethnicity in South Florida. if this country, in general, is behind when it comes to ethnic relations, then South Florida must be 50 years behind where the rest of this country is. segregation is alive and well here. communities are either distinctively Hispanic dominated, or they are eerily Anglo dominated. there's rarely middle ground. the media completely polarizes public opinion. you'll never hear a non-minority person, on the news, say that they support Elian staying. non-Hispanic DJ's on radio stations make light of the situation and take "send him back" calls and put them on the air like it's some sort of joke. to this day, people still want Cubans to "learn english." well assholes, we did 30 years ago. i posted this on the nbc6 bbs, but i'll say it here.......i wish every paranoid person in South Florida who feels threatened by Cuban American success in this county would spend a week in New York City, where people of all nationalities figured out a common ground on which to thrive on years ago. i hope they feel like fools upon their return. it aggravates me to see the resentment and frustration that the Elian case brings out in people in this community. it also scares me to see how those trying their damndest to make their life here percieve their efforts and if anyone besides the exile community wants them to succeed at times. sorry. it's extreme frustration right now at reading some of the nastiest shit i've ever read. now's a good time to post and say, "jorge, we understand." restore my faith in humanity, will ya? :) Jorge Jorge Fernandez jorge518@bellsouth.net jorge518@yahoo.com http://members.xoom.com/whorehay/home.html o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o *** bad html thoughts digest *** To POST messages to this list: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Can't figure out how to SUB, UNSUB, or CHANGE ADDRESSES? 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