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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to: <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the subject and body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 00 : Issue #1089 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o So I wore a slinky red thing... [ "Lavenda" <earth@nru.com.au> ] do YOU yahoo? [ Tara Hughes <torilovr13@yahoo.com> ] Here is said the King of Dreams [ "Succubus Barbie" <delirium1479@hot ] long distance runners........ [ "Kevin Roscoe" <krmalkavian@hotmail ] to the savior a kiss... [ "kerri klein" <lifeisweet@hotmail.c ] russ replies... [ "abigail dice" <talulagirl82@hotmai ] Re: RDT Right Now #1088 [ Tani <taniquel_25@yahoo.com> ] archives [ Jennifer Dawn Crispin <crispin@pa.m ] qu'est-ce que c'est? [ "Lori A Near" <nearlori@pilot.msu.e ] reintroducing.... [ becky wall <rxw191@psu.edu> ] the suburbs PSA [ Abbe J Cohen <abbe@MIT.EDU> ] Re: RDT Right Now #1088 [ russ marshalek <fragments1@mindspri ] Summer is great [ BABADEER1@aol.com ] the wicked witch of western californ [ Lisa071573@aol.com ] ___________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________ Really Deep Quote: Every spirit builds itself a house, and beyond its house, a world, and beyond its world, a heaven. Know then that world exists for you. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ___________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________ Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:16:05 +1000 From: "Lavenda" <earth@nru.com.au> To: "To Arty Turner and back" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: So I wore a slinky red thing... I did want to comment on Bethey's post in #1085. For the most part I agreed with it, but certain phrases had me feeling uneasy, and I meant to sleep on it to get my head straight on it, but it's taken me longer than I expected to get back to the computer. So it may be long forgotten now. If so, I appologise. The phrases would be 'attention' and 'asking for it'. Sure, you get dolled up, and you're bound to catch peoples eye in a particular manner. Some are bound to feel compelled to comment on your appearance. But for that to equate to 'asking for it'...? As soon as I hear 'asking for it', I associate it with sexual harrament and assault. I doubt this is what Bethey was getting at, that's jsut the way the words associated in my head. But for that matter, putting some extra effort into your appearance is not asking for harrasment. To me, it can mean look but don't touch. I say 'can mean' because sometimes you do have the specific purpose of being noticed, but more often than not you are doing it for a significant other, or for yourself (ie you jsut felt like wearing those clothes, and your hair that way etc). It's not an open invitation for every man and his dog to come fuck. And you don't have much control over what people think. Heck, look where I took a couple of innocent lines! But if you wear something 'coz you like the cut of it or whatever, and someone else treats you like trash, they're the one with the problem. I don't care what you look like, you are still human and worthy of common respect. Heather wrote about this too, and I agree with her. Guys know better. But they think they can get away with it. Megan/Succubus typed: >The reason I'm on a language kick is because my friend told me about this >program they're offering at the college she's looking at. You get to go to >these 3rd world countries and volunteer there. I'm not sure exactly what >you're volunteering to do, but I still want to do that! I can just picture >going to Madagascar and a few poor European countries (What ones are there, >by the bye? Is Czecklosolvalkia (sp?) poor? Or is it doing great? Because >I think that would be a fun place to visit and help out. If I do decide to >do this, though, I wouldn't really want to go to Madagascar because they >have those foot long hissing cockroaches and I wouldn't want to wake up to >one crawling over my blankets. Uggghhh! A friend of mine was going to do something like that, though it was separate from any individual uni. There were about five countries you could go to... I remember Solomon Islands being one, and one in Sth America, but my memory is seriously failing me. Waht you did was help them build buildings like schoolhouses, help them set up farms and other such things so they can be more self sufficient. The only problem was you had to raise the money for your airfare and other such stuff, and it was jsut waaaaaaaaay too much than my friend could handle, or possible raise. But Madagascar has lemurs, and they're cool. :) The other night I saw an episode of Sex in the City, and they silenced the word 'clitoris'. WHY? In the same episode they had the word penis, but clitoris was removed??? Red Dwarf didn't have a hang up about it... perhaps it was channel 9 (Aus broadcaster) who had the hang up. Anyway, the 'silenced' clitoris twice, so my jobs done, I've made up for it now. :) Yay, cricket's on this afternoon... undercover to boot! X Lavs ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ Who could ever say you're not simply wonderful - 'Merman', Tori Amos ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ http://homepages.go.com/~lavenda1/toriamos.html - A Winter Girl's Tori Amos page http://homepages.go.com/~lavenda1/lavenda1.html - Lavenda's Homepage -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:46:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Tara Hughes <torilovr13@yahoo.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: do YOU yahoo? 1. party at bethany's new apartment. as for the public transportation, well.. i can take the 92 from school to the mall. that's all i really know how to do.. though, now i kinda-sorta know how to take a train to 30th street, to market east, to patco. kinda-sorta. 2. russ~ try www.tara.com. anyone care to buy jewish music? 3. also, people, check out www.channel4.com/dogs/cgi-bin/remix.pl it'll lead you to finding out your dj name. 4. turns out that i'm back at school in 2 weeks. i'm so excited.. i'm ready to leave this place.. turns out i might even be getting a car.. a coworker of mine is selling his '95 chevy corsica.. 60,000 miles, in good shape, blue, $5500. so then, if i decide i want her, i can name her blue. she can have her own song, and her own album, even. hehe 5. some guy on that millionaire show tonight got stuck on a question about the 3 musketeers book. he called his english professor. the professor was wrong. how funny is that? 6. k, the end. funny things have been going on at home.. i've blown fuses after using things for extended periods of time (like, a half an hour after i turn the computer on, the fuse will blow). *sigh* another reason to be glad to be going back to school. 7. lilith was never tori's scene.. i have some quote of her saying it, or something.. i don't remember who said what about it here, but i'm just adding my 2 cents in (cuz that's usually what it's worth). peace out (or something to that extent). ~tara np~ fumbling towards ecstasy, 'elsewhere'. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail ñ Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 04:31:16 GMT From: "Succubus Barbie" <delirium1479@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Here is said the King of Dreams Hello you guys, How are we all doing presently in our lives? I'm doing somewhat peachy. Could be better. Could be worse. Hair smells like roses so that's a plus, but my brand spankin new hair style still has a few kinks (hahahaha) in it. Alas! Beth wrote: "I started thinking about the concept of the the death of the Dream King" So have I! Wanna hear what I think about it? Of course you do! Take notice that when Morpheus tore Lyta and her husband from the kids mind, he told her that the baby she carried, which formed in dreams, was his and he would claim it eventually. Fast forward a bit to when he discovered that Loki had tricked everyone in Season of Mists and had sent Susan-O- whatever to suffer in his place. The Dream King agreed that when he freed Susan-O- he would put in his place a fake Loki, in exchange for Loki's agreement to do something for him. Loki agrees. Fast forward a bit more to the Kindly Ones, when Loki and Puck steal Lyta's baby, of which Morpheus had previously said would be his. Obviously, Morpheus had told Loki and Puck to steal her baby for him. Further proof of this is when the Corinthian questions Loki, and he states, "I wouldn't DREAM of telling you". When our favorite reincarnated serial killing nightmare questions the Puck, the trickster answers "I could answer you ENDLESSly". Don't you just love the little hints they place in their sentences? But why, then, would Morpheus send the Corninthian and Matthew to retrieve the baby he had already had stolen? Because when Odin visited him, he told Morpheus that Loki can't help but hurt those who help him. He's like the adder that bites you when you do....something....I forget. The quote was something like that. So when Loki saw that, after stealing Danial, Lyta would try to hurt the Dream King, he decided to keep the kid. The burning away all the kids mortality? Maybe that was just another of Morpheus's orders, knowing in the back of his heart that Daniel would take his place. Or maybe the Tricksters were doing something different. Who knows? Does Neil? I'm thinking that Morpheus knew also, in the back of his heart, what Lyta would do. Whom Lyta would summon. That's why he left the Dreaming to visit Nuala. So he'd have no choice but to commit suicide. That Neil Gaiman, I swear, he's a genius. Damn! Another thing: Remember when, in the Wake, Dream mentions how the person who killed Despair would take until the end of everything to die? And remember in Death: The Time of Your Life when the no-eyes man tried to get Death's power, and at the end he said that "One day, too, I shall die"? Don't ya think that he's the guy who killed Despair? Don't ya? Don't ya? If this were any other comic book, I'd agree with you when you'd say that I have WAY too much time on my hands. However, with THIS particular comic, I'd be forced to disagree. It's much to good to be read only once. Bye! Megan Christine Auffart *************************************** All who look should see him there And all should cry Beware! Beware! His flashing eyes! His floating hair! Weave a circle round him thrice And close your eyes with holy dread For he on the honeydew hath fed And drunk the milk of paradise -Kubla Khan by S. T. Coleridge *************************************** One is silver: http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Pond/1197/ And the other's gold: http://www.angelfire.com/pa/bacteria/index.html ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 08:52:18 EDT From: "Kevin Roscoe" <krmalkavian@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: long distance runners........ Hey Russ, the long distance thing isn't too bad. I would need to know a little more like is she permanently in another location, are you two stuck seperated? My roommate is in a long distance relationship, has been for a few months now and I do see that it does make things hard. Not being together and everything, but they talk daily, this communication is I think the key! She calls every night (I think they didn't speak a total of 5 seperate days over the several months) Very rarely does my roommate call but thats because he is having financial difficulties and she is making good coin in an area where housing is cheap and taxes are low. I would assume that you two would move to a location to be together again in the near future, that is in the works for my roommate and his g/f but that may not be for a year or two. I really don't see a permanent long distance relationship lasting between anyone. Who would want to be married to someone who is always hundreds of miles away? The two of you should talk alot, via phone call preferably but email and snail mail as well! It's not easy, but it can definately test your relationships strength! Kevin 'Roscoe' www.the-edge.humberc.on.ca/~shaggs ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 08:55:30 CDT From: "kerri klein" <lifeisweet@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: to the savior a kiss... a few words before i hop on the kennedy this morning to attempt to drive back to a valparaiso town...after a night at the pick me up cafe and a mingle on the lake michigan beach with good friends, one from maine. those big white chairs. anyway. linda: all boys suck gnome. they often have introspective graphic moments and we often find them in the midst of recto-cranial inversions. rusen: apartment advice: have a good stereo. buy christmas lights in your favourite colour and string them with candles to match, and incense of your choice. bring lots of books. sleep naked, hell, do everything naked. most of all, enjoy your solitude. learn to milk it. and don't forget to water your plants, they don't water themselves and your roommates won't do it for you anymore. hee. go shopping at 3am because you can-without disturbing anybody who might have to get up to work in the morning, etc. make cookies with funny ingredients. etc. that is all. i like my rdt. kerri renee. "i am you... there is no distance." *sheila nicholls ~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% http://www.soonstudios.com just go there and see what smells. ~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:49:54 GMT From: "abigail dice" <talulagirl82@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: russ replies... So, Russ was pondering the reality of a long distance relationship and I am just here to say that if true love is really there, and there's patience, realism and determination then it was meant to me. I've been through many separations from David in the past because of his family and I playing tug-o-war on where he is living...(near me in Monterey or with his family in OH) but we've endured because we both love each other and can make this work. It's not easy, trust me. It's brought me to tears on many occasions, but when we are together the patience pays off, it shows. We are both stronger people because of it, and it gives me a challenge...I live for those. It's like learning a new Tori song by ear for me...at first, it's a pain piecing it together, getting the feel of the song and putting a twist on it, but once its a finished product and I am satisfied with it, it is wonderful. It is something of my creation and hard work inspired from someone else. Those two situations are very similar. I'm just speaking from experience here, and while I'm only 18, David and I have been together for almost two years and our prior friendship before our love saved it all. Being friends before was one of our major saving graces. And we are still best friends now. (I call it best friends with *benefits*) Anyways, I just wanted to add in my two cents. It may or may not help you out Russ, but nonetheless I've shared my story. I'm listening to the Tori London Solo Show tapes and wow...just takes my whole body and mind on a ride. A damn good one at that. -Miss A ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:53:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Tani <taniquel_25@yahoo.com> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Re: RDT Right Now #1088 Russ said: > but i can't help but wonder......i mean. exactly how > long can something long > distance last? My next door neighbor and her boy have been together for like 13 years, married for 2 of those. For 4 of those years he went to school in illinois, while she lived in georgia. Stayed together the whole damn time. They make me believe in love. So it is possible to survive a long distance relationship. Speaking from experience, its really damn hard. But if you really love her, what other choice do you have? Just don't go into it with a doomed attitude. Luv, Sarah ===== There is a Light that shines beyond all things on earth, beyond us all, beyond the heavens, beyond the highest, the very highest heavens. This is the Light that shines in our heart. The Upanishads __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:49:27 -0700 From: Jennifer Dawn Crispin <crispin@pa.msu.edu> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: archives Just a quick reply to Abbe: I use the archives! Mostly just to look up people who's email addresses I have lost. Or sometimes if I haven't been reading in a while and I come back in the midst of something controversial I'll check the archives to catch up. Incidentally, did you all know that Brad Schulz had been on this list for a *long* time? I found some fairly inocuous posts from him about gardening... Seemed friendly enough even if he was baiting Jorge at the time. Whatever, that is so over and done with. Hmmm. I like the idea for Killing Myself! So very twisted! Yet so very realistic! I don't think I could stand living with myself for very long! Blessed be! Greensleeves the brief (for now) moundbuilder ~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~ Come! Come again! Whoever, whatever you may be, come! Heathen, idolatrous or fire worshipper, come! Even if you deny your oaths a hundred times, come! Our door is the door of hope, come! Come like you are! ~Rumi ~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~&~ -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 19:20:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lori A Near" <nearlori@pilot.msu.edu> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: qu'est-ce que c'est? So I've been out of the RDTRN cycle for a bit. I'm not fazed by some of those leaving. I'm a little saddened, but as some people have said - if it's time to leave, then you know it's time to leave. No amount of "happy shiny list" or whatever you want will make some of these people want to return. And some of them will carry that grudge. Some will grow up and just move on. *shrugs*. That all said, I'm glad to be back in the mode. The last few weeks have been a strain, physically and mentally. I just have not stopped moving or doing *something*, *anything*, in so long. Now, Friday I am leaving for Stratford Ontario for some rest and relaxation. I highly recommend this city for r&r cause it's quaint, has good theatre, and Loreena McKennitt lives there. Oh yeah, it's a long ways away from anything, so the quiet is *real* quiet. Eminem? Beat poet? I can't see that. Not a bit. Juan pretty much illustrated why I feel he doesn't embody the spirit of someone who truly pushes buttons, but I'll wax a little on the subject here. Burroughs. Kerouac. Ginsberg. Patti. Tori, even. These artists and writers enrage me often. They piss me off. They punch me in the gut and say LOOK HERE. LISTEN TO THIS. NOTICE THIS REALITY! Arrested Development. Midnight Oil. Lauryn Hill. R.E.M. David Byrne. Cat Power. I could list all sorts of artists that shove things in my face and make me face up to a reality, but I certainly don't place Eminem in those arenas. To me, he's just a guy who wants to be accepted by the black community as a black rapper from Detroit, when in reality he's a kid from Warren who talks the talk, but doesn't walk the walk. The misogyny. The homophobia. These are not things that are holy. Your booking picture on the cover of Entertainment Weekly is not poetry. This is not to say that what he says doesn't have something to say. I just can't see him being the next voice of change. THAT being said.. *grin* Beth W. said a lot about what I've been feeling about new music. I have been listening to a lot of 'older' musicians and their latest work. Patti Smith Gung Ho. R.E.M. Up. XTC Apple Venus Vol 2 Wasp Star. I'm just not interested in a lot of the new stuff. Sheila Nichols really strikes me... and I find myself humming a lot of Cat Power lately, but most of the new stuff is just not with the heart. I really was lucky to catch some great music in the early 90s (hell, Lou Reed's Magic and Loss was probably one of my favourite albums of 91, and I still listen to it when I am sad) Music with harsh reality and hard core lyrics. Tori. PJ Harvey. Ani. These I was just learning about when I stepped onto Michigan State's campus in 1992. They still make great music, but there just isn't a lot of innovation being broadcast. Perhaps it's a call for internet radio to become the new pirate radio... Your thoughts of death are really reflective as well... I remember hearing about Cobain's death while I had my earphones on listening to campus radio, in 94. I was walking right behind the campus chapel, near the river. The day was sunny, yet wisps of clouds would occasionally blow over the sun. My roommate thought I was joking. She laughed. I didn't. The news on MTV was stark. Such a downer to end on! I know.. I know... I'm just still at work and it looks like I'll be here for at least another 3 hours or so. Ugh! now playing: 1965, The Afghan Whigs ~loria~ http://thoughts.descending.net -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 21:20:47 -0400 From: becky wall <rxw191@psu.edu> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: reintroducing.... 'the little raisongal' I just recently did a major update to my page and also got my own domain name, www.raisongal.com. So please come check out the new look. Thanks! Becky -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:40:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Abbe J Cohen <abbe@MIT.EDU> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: the suburbs PSA /nad, that was so sad and so funny. I can see it all coming, it's too late for me too. For the rest of you, there may still be hope. I will *not* live in the suburbs, but it still doesn't matter. Just buying the house and settling down to gardening and lawn care and cooking and *gasp* looking at those kitchen and bath remodeling magazines is enough. Somerville, MA isn't a suburb by any stretch of the imagination - 2-and-3 family houses spaced far enough apart for a 10x10 square of yard i fyou're lucky, on the Boston subway system, mostly working-class demographic. Although it's gradually getting too expensive for anyone working-class to afford to live here, it's turning into an expensive yuppie urban neigborhood more than a suburb. But still, I feel your pain. Our TV is not only plugged in but it gets cable and is turned on to the Food Network or Cartoon Network or Independent Film Channel much of the time. Our idea of a good weekend seems to involve at least a day of household chores and errands. I've thought seriously about whether to pay someone to clean our bathrooms and mop our hardwood floors. And part of me is screaming that I could stoop so low. *sigh* I know, there are worse things to complain about. --Abbe -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:14:15 -0400 From: russ marshalek <fragments1@mindspring.com> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Re: RDT Right Now #1088 on 8/15/00 11:43 PM, juan wrote: > get this, Russ: if you find the same message in Eminem's lyrics and Sarah's > lyrics and M.Manson's lyrics, you certainly have a completely different way > of interpreting lyrics than I do, but that's ok... if you feel that Eminem > is the most gracious, then that is your opinion and there is no point in > arguing... ok. um. first off, i never compared mister mathers to sarah. i think sarah was thrown into the mix cause i made a joke about her in the same post...but that's an odd comparison. no. i compared sarah to marilyn manson because, when interviewed, they both say the same things: they want parents to parent. they want parents to observe. they want kids taken care of. they want to get rid of the hate in america. and i think popping the blister, which is what it seems to ME that they're trying to do, is the way to do it. don't get me wrong. i have no love for manson. the only album of his i can dig is "mechanical animals", and that has some damn gorgeous stuff on it. but i think people take him *too seriously*. same as with em. there's really no sense in arguing over this, because there will be peole who like him and who hate him regardless of what i say and regardless of if gore becomes president and regardles if mulder comes back in the next season of xfiles......and with the exception of throwing sarah m into it, you made a perfect argument for your point of view. so we'll agree to be in disagreement. i'm listening to nin with bowie. nothing can get better. -russ -- -- -- "Terry brought my breakfast. I had my canvas bag all packed and ready to go to New York...I told Terry I was leaving. She had been thinking about it all night and was resigned to it. Emotionlessly she kissed me in the vineyard and walked off down the row. We turned at a dozen paces, for love is a duel, and looked at each other for the last time. 'See you in New York, Terry,' I said. She was supposed to drive to New York in a month with her brother. But we both knew she wouldn't make it. At a hundred feet I turned to look at her. She just walked on back to the shack, carrying my breakfast plate in one hand. I bowed my head and watched her. Well, lackadaddy, I was on the road again." -Jack Kerouac -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:51:53 EDT From: BABADEER1@aol.com To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Summer is great Yesterday was agreat day for my business. Just wanted to share with you all. I am fine, my birthday sucked ass. Haven't been doing much other than the wage slave job. but i got to swim on company time so...... guess I can't complain. Wolves &Love Dadoo -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 19:25:04 EDT From: Lisa071573@aol.com To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: the wicked witch of western california is alive and, well.... ok boys and girlies.. I'm here.. trying to catch up.. (yeah yeah way behind I know..) hence: the reader's digest version of reading 40 digests while you're bored to death at work...(or alternatively, I heard some shit went down and the curiosity is driving me mad..) so random thoughts on random digests: 1036: I like Linda Kochman's post :) esp the India and Catholic thing - nicely done. oh claire - everything in HitchHiker's is good :) oh Patricia you are nuts - run screaming from highschoolalumni.com. 1037: hey Valerie - you're in Campbell?? let's do coffee or something :) (or was this way before you left to live with Keithers??) jorge: [ah...the lengths Lisa will go to for just ONE little lesbian :)] damn, I'm so transparent... 1038: Brad - you are a fucking troll.. no abortion is not akin to declawing.. try grasping at a least one straw honey.. and reread Linda K's post on overpopulation. 1039: Ken T - nice points about the death rate of children in 3rd world countries.. hahahaahahaha (falling off my chair reading Brad talk about psycho-babble) the pot calls the kettle pot. 1041: Bethany - I'd sleep with Ani too :) 1042: Arija - right on about the sin is relative thing.. if Brad pulled his head out of his ass he might be able to think straight. Oh Jessi rocks, and Wesley can kiss my ass too. Whoa, smeathy in triplicate... oh Yael, thank you for pointing out mr. troll's poor logic :) 1043: oh Juan my darling.. I understand your desire not to call people names.. but you-know-who is a fucking troll ;) 1044: john k - I agree..Alice Walker is amazing... I read TCP in two days I think and Possessing the Secret of Joy in one... that woman is just unbelievable.. oh so the top five fuckees thing and tori... I think I see Tori as more of a snuggable person.. maybe she's just too motherly for me or something. Now Amy Ray - that woman's hot :) 1045: I love Simon :) :) :) :) hmmm.. I swear I had another reply from pre-1036 that I haven't noticed yet... maybe it'll turn it up... well ok.. I'd better send this before AOl crashes and I lose all my progress.. so, still 40 digests behind but hey, bite me. :P Lisa o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o *** Respect The One-Eyed Trouser Snake, Tame The Fuzzy Pink Taco digest *** To POST messages to this list: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Can't figure out how to SUB, UNSUB, or CHANGE ADDRESSES? Send a message to <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "help" as the subject. Digest PROBLEMS or QUESTIONS? Contact: <admin@torithoughts.org> Want your BIRTHDAY announced on RDTRN in 2000? Visit the registration form located at http://www.torithoughts.org/RDTRN/birthday.html RDTRN SITE AND ARCHIVES: http://www.torithoughts.org Any self-respecting Toriphile is on The Registry. (That means you!) http://thedent.com/registry.html _ . /\ , _ _ ( _ )_ {Oo\{o\ .=. 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