RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #1651

RDT Right Now #1651

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Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 15:57:08 -0700
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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to: <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the subject and body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 02 : Issue #1651 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o Hi, I'm Butt Slammer, nice to met yo [ "Lavenda" <earth@comcen.com.au> ] i do not sniff the coke, i only smok [ arija.weddle@yale.edu ] the real word mexico city [ "Juan Manuel Torreblanca" <cheefoos ] a request [ arija.weddle@yale.edu ] crossstitching again [ "Lavenda" <earth@comcen.com.au> ] [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] On June 21st in 1992, reports on Tori's appearance on ABC's "In Concert", and "how I got into Tori". In 1994, a Washington Post article was sent to the list. An excerpt: It was Amos's courage in openly addressing her own rape in the a cappella song "Me and a Gun" also from 1991's "Little Earthquakes," that earlier this month earned her the 1994 Visionary Award from the D.C.Rape Crisis Center, alongside such figures as Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders, activist Mabel Haden and actress MarloThomas. The center is helping Amos establish a national rape crisis hot line, which she hopes will be in place by fall. The idea for it came from the hundreds of letters Amos has received in response to 'Me and a Gun.' More defence of MAAG (and comments that it isn't the sole or defining reason that members are fans), concert reviews. (and in light of our recent masturbation songs thread, I thought this was topical) A member posted: if you wanted to know what i think... i think tori sould segue from icicle straight into "i touch myself" by the devinyls... In 1995, more detail about Hobbes's disappearance: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives/upenn/digest.9506/msg00040.html#6 There were also many "thank you" messages to Anthony for his years of service. In 1997, topics include genocide and body image. In 1999, evolution and more "oriental/asian". In 2001, still on the death penalty thing. [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] On June 22nd in 1994, more reviews, pictures from a recent Rolling Stone article, Tori singing emotions, and response to someone asking "Who the fuck is Sara McLaughlan?" (sic): Maybe I should first point out that this kind of language is not exactly how we talk to each other on RDT Oh, how things have changed!!! In 1996, Crossroads, Tori's makeup, part 6 of the Bosendorfer story, the Fugees, and one member concerned about Tori's love of wine. In 1997, gun laws, and a suggestion for a 'Boys for Pele' shot (ie alcohol). In 1998, old Tori appearances, more sex, and the trials and low pay of being a waiter/waitress/server. [ ================================================================== ] Today's fuzzy ferret assistant: Lavenda Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 21:06:31 +1000 From: "Lavenda" <earth@comcen.com.au> To: "Strange Little Arty Turners" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Hi, I'm Butt Slammer, nice to met you ;) ooh, I thought of a couple more rain songs: Arrested Development - Raining Revolution (even has thunder sounds :) Pogues - Um, I'll have to look it up. Track 11 on the disc with the weimaraner (dog) on the front. :) Winter is finally here. We've had a week of cold weather, it's been getting down to about 7 degrees at night, tad windy. Beautiful. Been too busy cleaning and getting dishwashers to enjoy it. Did I mention I'm making a scarf for Tiarna? It's coming along nicely. I wanna steal it. She did choose purple wool. (she also asks for green (lime) milkshakes. No question, she is my daughter!). It's yummy soft. Oh, but the new dishwasher is joy. The old one, very old one, was quite possibly 15 years old, and the door didn't shut properly so not only did it leak, it was very very noisy. This one I could actually talk on the phone without having to ask the person on the other end to repeat every second word. Tiarna says she likes the new one too. :) I could be doing (ha!) backflips at the moment too. I'm finding it so enjoyable to watch the first season of Stagate again. Well, so far it's only been the the first ep (two parter), but just to see a forgotten side to Daniel was nice. And of course Teal'c becoming a turn-coat. Ah, I should be posting this to a Stargate list... I can't believe all the people coming out of the woodwork to admit they have the hots for Eminem. I just can't say I've ever seen anything in him physically that I would expect to have admirers. (See, I didn't even say anything about his personality!) X Lavs (Lavenda 1, primary adjunct of dominatrix Glenn) ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ Who could ever say you're not simply wonderful - 'Merman', Tori Amos ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ http://www.freewebs.com/tiarna/start.html - Tiarna's Homepage http://www.freewebs.com/drifts/start.html - Drifts Get Deeper -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:15:16 -0400 From: arija.weddle@yale.edu To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: i do not sniff the coke, i only smoke the sinsemilla re: eminem >Ahem, so despite the fact > that he uses the word "faggot" too too often, maybe he > actually believes that with all the fucked up and > stupid things going on in this world, why on earth > aren't gay people allowed to get married if they want > to? are you sure it's not "with all the fucked up and stupid things going on in this world, why not let another fucked-up and stupid thing, gay marriage, just happen?" that's what i always thought anyway. but that's not the point. eminem is a white dude from michigan, right? he's this little guy who (before his recording contract, obviously) meant fuck-all to the world, just like everyone else. but that's the genius thing about it: he's used that common-man image to catapult himself into the tomato-throwing spotlight. sure, he's racist, sexist, and homophobic. but so are you. the only difference is "i got the balls to say it in front of y'all and i dont gotta be false or sugar coated at all" - right? every single person in the world has had a tinge of hatred (ok, well let's say disdain) for someone who is not like them, and if you haven't, then you're a liar. eminem is a child, meaning he doesn't censor his thoughts and opinions, and, this is really obvious but, that's why people hate him, because he says the things that you are scared to. people condemn him for using the words "bitch" and "slut" in his songs, but think about how carelessly those terms are tossed around in your everyday life, too. you just think that no one is listening. > however, he is still sexist-- without question. > '97 Bonnie and Clyde is still really disgusting, and > most of the things that he says about his mother > disturb me. how can you say that he's sexist "without question" when you've just used all his other lyrics to show that he's just being sarcastic? honestly, i hate musical interpretations (i know, what i have just being doing here, but...). the only thing that eminem is giving you is his words, and he can make you (being the plural you, sorry) thing whatever he wants to. when i was still an english major, and in all my writing classes, there were two things they drilled into our eager little heads: 1) show, don't tell and b) the authorial voice is different from the narrator's voice. you can't assume that eminem wants to kill his wife because he sang a song about it. he never said "hi my name is marshall and i want to fucking kill my wife, kim." (unless he did say that and i'm unaware.) tori sings "i want to kill this waitress" and we love her for it because she's liberating women everywhere by breaking free of the chains that women place on each other or whatever. eminem is doing the same, just way more harshly and without any metaphor i used to hate eminem. i used to think he was terrible and racist and all that, but now i think he's just bored with music today and is saying what he really wants to say. i mean, i wish i could do that all the time. oh yes, he's a child, which means he wants you to love him and pity him while simultaneously being cross with him, but... hmm, thats a small price to pay. i own none of his albums, but that's because i'm too poor to buy albums. the last one i bought was Strange Little Girls, and it was damn waste of my $15.99. anyway, back to my challenging and rewarding office job, arija p.s. i wish i didn't have to do this, but, JUST TO CLARIFY, i don't hate gay people, gay people who want to get married, black people, women, men, children, asian people, techno artists, mothers, fish, or trapeze artists. i do, however, hate emily dickinson and whoever turned the air conditioning so high in this office. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 09:41:23 -0500 From: "Juan Manuel Torreblanca" <cheefooska@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: the real word mexico city emmanuel what on earth were you on? anyway squeeshy is definitely a fantasy world. Josephine, were you scared or amused when your welcome message came as the third part of this man's strange trilogy? did you suddenly feel disappointed that there was no lube included please do tell us how you felt so I've gotta go and I'm not ripped, stoned, nor twisted (ok mabye a little twisted in me ol'brain) the weather is darkgreyclouded and shiverycold today I hate rain when I have to drive and I won't be home before 10pm today (again) and I SO need sleed cheefooska the troubled words (or worlds maybe?) of a troubled mind I try to understand what is eating you I keep falling over I keep passing out when I see a face like you... I'm not gonna melt down phew _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 16:56:16 -0400 From: arija.weddle@yale.edu To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: a request does anyone on this mailing list actually listen to tori? if so, would it be possible for me to get a copy of "under the covers" (1993? 1994?) from you? i'd mail you a blank CD (or tape, i guess, but CD is better becuse i dont have a tape player) and pay for postage if this is at all possible. you can contact me privately at arija.weddle@yale.edu or post it to the list to [gasp] add some tori amos content :) love, arija -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 09:04:54 +1000 From: "Lavenda" <earth@comcen.com.au> To: "Strange Little Arty Turners" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: crossstitching again Yes, I've had the needle and thread out again. I've done a Tori crossstitch bookmark. To see and read all about it go to my homepage (link in sig, bookmark found on crossstitch page in 'her image'), or simply click below: http://www.freewebs.com/drifts/crossstitch.html I s'pose I should have put on the page, that if anyone would like one, and doesn't mind waiting a bit for it, I do have permission from queen frostine to use her dolls for them. So just let me know if you're interested. 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