RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #1659

RDT Right Now #1659

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Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 23:22:21 -0700
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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to: <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the subject and body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 02 : Issue #1659 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o Boris the spider [ Brian Cooper <ByteMe@smartchat.net. ] which SLG are you? [ Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.de ] half moon and frost :) [ "Lavenda" <earth@comcen.com.au> ] the dreams in which i'm dying are th [ Succubus Barbie <Abulia@imaterroris ] [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] On July 3rd in 1995, members discuss the story of "Greg he writes letters" and "Pretty Good Year." In 1996, the emotional healing process, gay pride and concert reviews. In 1999, mental health and the list, celebrating the Fourth in style and psychiatric medication. In 2000, the new server, Hemlock, is announced. Hemlock is home of several sites besides ToriThoughts.org, including thedent.com (A Dent In The Tori Amos Net Universe) and vanmelick.com (What Language?... No, Dutch). Perhaps you've heard of them? ;) (I'm sure they don't need any plugs, but they're my pals and they're getting one anyway.) In 2001, more on the "Strange Little Girls" concept ("SLAYER!?!?" "EMINEM!?!?!") and whether or not people who are boycotting Eminem will buy the album. The Atlantic Records press release is posted. It confirms that Tori will be touring solo and contains the following quote from Tori: "the scariest thing about Bonnie and Clyde is that half of the world is snapping it's fingers and has empathy for this man who is butchering his wife. As she lies bleeding half the world is dancing to this, oblivious, with blood on their sneakers. When you murder your wife, you can't control who befriends her..." [ ================================================================== ] Today's fuzzy ferret assistant: Andrea Norstad Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 21:32:30 +1000 From: Brian Cooper <ByteMe@smartchat.net.au> To: Really Deep Thrusts Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Boris the spider Like Koba and John, I was pretty bummed to hear of John Entwistle's death. Not that my opinion counts for much, but I believe him to be the greatest bassist who ever lived. His talents compelled me to take up bass and I could only dream about having half his talent. There was no style he couldn't play. Had I known The Who were going to be doing a tour of the States, I would have changed my plans and paid whatever it took to get to a show. *sigh* There's no point now John's gone. The only thing that didn't surprise about his death that it was in a Vegas hotel room. I don't really care one way or another about this pledge of allegiance thing. That's something for your country to sort out. Personal choice - optional. But one thing that disappoints me about the USA at the moment is the government refusing to sign up for the ICC (International Criminal Court). That smells of a country with something to hide. It's also putting at risk many peace keeping operations around the world involving US forces, by the government's threat to withdraw troops. Even our normally near-sighted government signed up for it and they've got a few skeletons in the closet. By not signing is like having a nuclear non-proliferation treaty where not everyone signs. Bethany wrote in #1653... >oh my god, now he's talking about tile. *Pant pant pant* >that Brian Cooper does slay me. :) You're sick! I'm glad I live halfway around the world. Now if it's about humping on the tiles, that's fine by me. Does your fascination with ceramics come from watching "Ghost" too many times? Bethey said in #1654... >Brian: Personally, I prefer to wash my laundry. What benefit is there to >painting it instead? Doesn't it make all your clothes stiff and >uncomfortable? ;) Considering they're already stiff, painting them is an improvement. *rolls eyes* Note to self: remove pants before "painting the ceiling". Koba declared in #1655... >and girls whose thongs stick out whenever they bend over (about one in >every 4 females ages 16-29; it's frightening, really You know, after reading that I completely forgot about what you were saying before and couldn't comprehend anything after that statement. Speaking of women bending over, is it just me or are hipster jeans ridiculous? Case in point: there is a 5 star hotel across the road from me at work and my view is that of the pool and gymnasium. Fashion shoots are frequently done there and last week was no exception. Typical tall, blonde model who went from swimwear to gymwear to streetwear. Anyway, the streetwear was a white blouse and hipster jeans. The photographers got her in a squatting position and we were treated to a view of plumber's crack, builder's smile, whatever you like to call it. And no Koba, she wasn't even wearing a G-string. Now clean the carpet fluff off your tongue before putting it back in your mouth. Lav's book adventure in #1657... >I settled on 'Awakeners' by Sheri S Tepper Good choice. That was the first book of hers I read and is a good example of her better works. It's mildly perverse - you'll like it. For the weather report, that -1 degrees has become -4. Next time I see Kay and yourself, butter won't do. It'll have to be extra virgin olive oil. Brian -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:50:29 -0700 From: Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.devin.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: which SLG are you? Quiz-type thing: http://casket4mytears83.tripod.com/quiz/slg.html I got "Enjoy the Silence." 'You tend to be the mother hen in your circle of friends. You're there with advice learned over the years to help those unsure of where to go, and you often try to keep those around you safe. You have a lot of insight, and seem rather old because of it. You tend to be very expressive of your emotion, usually through action as opposed to words. You are usually rather calm, but grow fierce when someone tries to harm a loved one. Sometimes, friends find you a bit smothering because you tend to not let them make their own mistakes. You have learned well from your mistakes, haven't you? Sometimes, we need to learn things by trial and error. Your friends have nothing to fear though; even when they fail, you'll be there to keep them safe in your arms. '"Words are meaningless and unforgettable"' Beth -- "This country has a deep fear and mistrust of strong, smart, accomplished, outspoken women unless they are sexy 22-year-olds killing vampires on television." -- Dennis Miller _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._ music reviews + stories + poetry + photography + collage + Watchers livejournal + selkies + esoterica + links = http://echoes.devin.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 06:49:15 +1000 From: "Lavenda" <earth@comcen.com.au> To: "Strange Little Arty Turners" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: half moon and frost :) John B mentioned rubber stamps. ARRRRGGGHHHHH! That's something else I have coming out of my ears, stamps and all the extraneous bits and pieces for making your own cards. Of course, you could have been talking about the boring business type rubber stamp (eg with company contact details), but that's never my first thought when I hear 'rubber stamp'. Yay, just found 'The Animal Rescue Site' has been added to the 'Hunger Site' group. :) Deandra asked about getting into radio. I suggest looking into community radio (um, or whatever it may be called over there), and volunteering around the place to learn the ropes, or look into courses at media colleges or the like. I guess you're looking at becoming a presenter (you mentioned having a voice for it. Someone told me that too once. Work on clear announciation (though maybe 'coz I'm an Aussie I have a tendency to slur certain words), and practice reading and not sounding like you're reading). Making up mock tapes of a program wouldn't hurt, that way you can listen back to your work and hopefully not die of shock (your own voice always seems to sound a little strange when it's recorded). Hope that helps. If you could get Laurahey to post, she'd probably have a bit to say as she's actually doing this sort of stuff. Hmmm, I'm committing one of my cardinal sins here, responding to digests before reading them all. Hopefully I'm not covering too much that has already been said. Wow - seems funny that if the Greeks perceived the world as round we went backwards and folks were afraid they'd sail off the edge of a flat earth up to a few hundred years ago. Aristotle wasn't so bright after all (that, or he couldn't believe people were such suckers for that idea). So, how did they calculate the diameter? Thanks for that winterlion. :) Winterlion also typed: >Which 'Victoria' btw? Am curious - there's -manymany- places with that name :) The Australian one of course. I'm a sheltered girl who hasn't been to another country. There's also been some stones a la Stonehenge erected up near um Glenn Innes (slightly inland northern NSW. Would be lovely, colourful and cold this time of year). Actually there's some sort of Egyptian um... somethings. I just remember it had some connection to Egypt, perhaps hieroglyphs carved in rocks or something, around Barrington Tops. Some people have obviously forgotten its compariatively cheaper to fly OS than within Australia. Actually Coops, since you're in the home-improvement swing of things you can come up and finish off all the jobs my sister has been so very slack on. Every time she visits we have a list of things for her to do, and she's never done one of them (hence half of them are the same) (don't worry, it's a running joke. Though I would be rather happy if she did any of them!!! ;). X Lavs (Lavenda 1, primary adjunct of dominatrix Glenn) ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ Who could ever say you're not simply wonderful - 'Merman', Tori Amos ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ http://www.freewebs.com/tiarna/start.html - Tiarna's Homepage http://www.freewebs.com/drifts/start.html - Drifts Get Deeper -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:59:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Succubus Barbie <Abulia@imaterrorist.com> To: Really Deep Thoughts Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: the dreams in which i'm dying are the best i've ever had Hola mes amies, I feel invisible. I feel like everyone can just look straight through me like I was made out of glass, like I'm some statue on a mantel that no one cares enough about to properly dust. I feel like one of those precious Chinese Ming dynasty vases that's been smashed and ground into the dirt so that there's nothing left but shards of something that was once very beautiful. I feel wasted and ignored. I feel like one of those war orphans they film in those commercials, given 50 cents and told to "look sad for the camera" and then left to starve after the shot is over. "Go back to your hovel, sweety, and don't spend all your money in one place. We don't need you anymore." What is it about feeling needed? Why do I need to feel like I'm actually doing something that's important, that lasts longer than a day? Is that why people get pets and have children? So they can feel loved and needed? So they can have someone to depend upon them? So they can feel like their existence is necessary in this wild and apathetic universe? I saw 'A Beautiful Mind' today. It made me feel like this. You know what? I want Jesus, or Buddha, or Muhammad or one of those many religious leaders to come back and finally give the lost, confused people of this world some guidance! I don't mean guidance from holy books, either! I mean flesh and blood, 'he is born, risen, and will come again' actual body mass. People get so disillusioned and confused and sad because such incredibly bad shit happens to so many of us for no real reason. I used to think it was the mystery of death that drove people to religion, but now I'm thinking that it's more the terrible, terribly irony of the situations we get in. Sometimes the joke's just too damn good to be blamed on coincidence. Sometimes you need something more to blame than ill timing, or poor chromosomes, or being in the wrong place on the wrong day in the wrong century on the wrong planet. So when's Jesus going to get back, anyways? When's Krishna gonna show up and start defeating the demons? When's Buddha going to take a temporary hiatus from Nirvana to come down to this planet and tell people that there is a reason why everything's fucked up, that the losses and diseases and deaths and the carnage are all there because there's a plan, a really really GREAT plan that will explain everything that has ever gone wrong. I don't believe in the devil. I don't believe in hell. And I'm starting to learn how not to believe in coincidences. I'm tired of not doing anything, of waiting for someone or something or some God to come down and make everything better. I want to do something right for a change. I want to do something lasting. Something significant. And I don't want to feel invisible. How Now, Brown Cow? 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