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Date:
Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:18:02 -0700
Subject:
RDT Right Now #1684
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Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 02 : Issue #1684
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Tori Amos, "Thoughts"
In this issue:
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shelters [ Linda <lindagyne@yahoo.com> ]
six-day westerns [ "John Bragazzi" <wasserman@operamai ]
what is a guapo stick, anyway? [ "Bethany Rusen" <hejira@u-town.com> ]
Don't kill the cheese [ "Lavenda" <earth@comcen.com.au> ]
God only knows [ "John Bragazzi" <wasserman@operamai ]
Re: RDT Right Now #1683 [ Jim <jimphynn@mindspring.com> ]
more stuff [ "Bethany Rusen" <hejira@u-town.com> ]
thus far [ arija.weddle@yale.edu ]
Laws, Laws, there are too many laws. [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ]
the pope's here oh yay [ "juan manuel torreblanca" <cheefoos ]
Re: RDT Right Now #1683 [ Simon Booth <sbooth1@satx.rr.com> ]
[ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ]
today's already done
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:18:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Linda <lindagyne@yahoo.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: shelters
Thank you, Roxanne, for mentioning Melissa Ferrick. A
friend told me about her a few months ago, played a
tape for me, and said that I *must* hear the rest of
her music. And then I couldn't remember her name for
the life of me. Thank you thank you thank you.
I finally finished _The Shelters of Stone_ by Jean
Auel. So predictable that I almost didn't have to
finish reading it.
I couldn't put it down.
I wish I could respond to things.... ahhh, oh well.
Much love and best thoughts.
I don't know what happened to that cool thing that I
used to have so much of.... what did I used to call
it?
Oh yeah....... time.
~Linda~
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:18:35 +0800
From: "John Bragazzi" <wasserman@operamail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: six-day westerns
Beth, hope you and Devin have a great time!
> I'm looking forward to the possibility of spending four days
> within sight and earshot of the ocean.
That's usually my favorite idea for a vacation. Ocean+fresh seafood+the
right person. That's just about ideal.
Hope you have as much fun as we did.
Brian said:
> But what about when that marketing machine "breaks down"
> and refuses to support an artist?
And the record companies sometimes use this as a lever, as in, "if you use
Producer A to produce your album, we'll promote it; if you use Producer B,
we won't."
So, the artist has a choice of producer, but not much of a choice.
> which is practically a career compared to the 60's
> when you'd be likely to see an album produced every year.
In the early 1960s, two or three a year. The Beach Boys made 12 albums in
their first four years or so, which was not unusual. But when albums only
take a few days to record, that's not really surprising.
It's true of movies, too. Directors used to make several movies every year
(and actors even more), but not these days. People made such a big deal
about Steven Soderbergh being nominated for Oscars for two movies in the
same year, but that would not have been so unusual back in the 1930s and
1940s.
I haven't seen Soderbergh's "Full Frontal," but I understand why he'd want
to make a movie quickly, on video, with as few frills as possible, for a
change.
As B/4,
John
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"I don't know anything about poetry."
-- William Blake
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 23:36:49 -0400
From: "Bethany Rusen" <hejira@u-town.com>
To: "Dipfucks" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: what is a guapo stick, anyway?
wow, someone posted stuff from my site. that's pretty cool. thanks, e. no, i
don't mind at all.
i found some of your comments really really interesting.
like this one:
"For one thing, I'd have no interest in art by now if every piece of
painting
I ever saw had a written dissertation about it besides it. "
i definitely agree with you. it's not quite what i meant, though. I guess
i'm striving to explain something that i'm not sure I have words for. it's
just when i read the book by Maya Lin (it's called Boundaries, and it's $40,
but so so SO worth it), reading what art in general meant to her, and her
art in particular, it just so transcended the usuall bullshit that comes
along with talking about art.
a big part of art school is being able to talk intelligently about your work
and others' work, for better or worse. the worse part is people get caught
up in hearing the sound of their own voice using big words. one of the grad
students showed me this paper one of his professors had given out as a joke,
the random art critique phrase generator. you basically took a phrase from
column A, B and C and result was so vague that it pretty much applied to
anything you were talking about. it was funny, but it actually made a point.
it becomes words, words and more words, but doesn't mean a damn thing.
i have a hard time in critiques, because i always seem to blurt out what i'm
feeling at the bottom of my gut, rather than thinking it through and coming
up with some huge statement. which i'm not sure if that's a good thing or
not. it pisses me off, because i think I can write well about art, but in
this case my mouth doesn't work right.
"Much of the
importance of art in humanity is precisely the capturing and efficiently
conveying not of information, but sentimental content."
i agree. it's such a weird relationship, because, as i said above, words can
be used so they don't mean anything. but on the other hand, i've always
believed in the context of visual art that words are like fucking BOMBS. you
paint a painting, and supposed somewhere in the painting you put the words
"pain" or the word "joy" or anything else you can imagine. that single word
changes the entire feeling of the painting, because words are so loaded.
every person has a different conatation of the same word. the same could be
said for colors, or images, but to a lesser degree, i think.
"I find it fair not to talk about what my paintings mean. I know this gives
other people the chance of inventing their own stories and give the piece
their own meaning in their lives."
but what if knowing your intent somehow enhances the viewer's enjoyment or
interpretation of a piece of art? sure, you could look at it as tainting
your audience's reaction, but is that really the case? for example, one of
my professor's shows was reviewed in one of the ceramics magazines, in which
he talked about his work, and (though I can't stand him personally) i had a
newfound respect and interest and understanding of his work. so, i don't
think it's so cut and dry - finish your work and let it be released into the
world to the opinions of the rest of the human race. the dialogue has to
stay open between you and the audience. Louise Nevelson, for example: i can
appreciate her piece "Sky Cathedral"* on my level with my own experience,
but unless I had read so, i would've never known that it was a
representation of the New York City Skyline.
i know this may not be the case for every artist, but i never feel
completely separated from any of my work. there's just too much invested in
it.
whew. my brain is fried, and i have to say goodnight now. so glad Jessi
isn't here to ruin this discussion with her hysterics.
-bethany
*i'm fairly sure this piece was destroyed when the World Trade Center fell.
_______________________________________________________________
a journal : http://hejira.u-town.com
the centralia project : http://centralia.u-town.com
"Why keep a journal? To stop time. To make a point about the pointlessness
of it all. To have company. To be remembered. For these is so much to be
recalled, with no one to do the recalling." (Ned Rorem)
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:06:41 +1000
From: "Lavenda" <earth@comcen.com.au>
To: "Strange Little Arty Turners" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: Don't kill the cheese
Or: "Strawberry yoghurt and purple jumpers don't mix".
ha! I just realised the new release date is my Dad's b'day. I doubt he even
knows who Tori is.
Welcome Rebecca!
Woohoo, I got a new sewing machine today!
X
Lavs
(Lavenda 1, primary adjunct of dominatrix Glenn)
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Who could ever say you're not simply wonderful
- 'Merman', Tori Amos
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http://www.freewebs.com/tiarna/start.html - Tiarna's Homepage
http://www.freewebs.com/drifts/start.html - Drifts Get Deeper
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:40:31 +0800
From: "John Bragazzi" <wasserman@operamail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: God only knows
Welcome, Rebecca Brown Gregory
Matt said:
> i'm pretty sure there are regulations about copyright in
> interpretations, adaptations, and representations of other
> material,
Any recorded performance is copyrighted. You can't copyright Beethoven's
Fifth Symphony, but you can certainly copyright a performance of it, in
fact, the minute you record it, it's copyrighted. The form and the payment
just make it easier if you ever have to go to court about it.
e said:
> When a piece of art is finished and the artist can say it's
> ready, then he must detach itself from it immediately,
Joni Mitchell has said it's like having a child, you give them the best
start you can, and then you send them out into the world and hope for the
best for them.
> For one thing, I'd have no interest in art by now if every
> piece of painting I ever saw had a written dissertation
> about it besides it.
Exactly. I prefer to experience it first, then read about it later, if I
want to. I hate it when bands explain their songs before they perform
them. If you have to explain them before I even hear them, you didn't
write them right in the first place.
As Miles Davis said, "I play it first. Then I talk about it later. Maybe."
And artists aren't obligated to say anything. There were some gripes when
Mulholland Drive came out on DVD that there was no audio commentary track
by the director, and I thought that was crazy. David Lynch is under no
obligation to say one word about his work. It would be great if he did,
but he made one of the best movies of the year, and possibly the best movie
of his career, andthat's enough for me.
Look at all the fun we've had here dissecting and analyzing Tori's lyrics.
What if every song on her albums came with a little paragraph explaining it?
I've always had trouble explaining what I'm doing until it's done, if then.
When I was on some local BBSs, I started posting fiction there. It was all
one long story, but I never knew where it was going until I got there.
That was one of the great things about it.
When I was in bands, I always had trouble when I came up with a new idea
for a song, and people would want to know what it was about, and they
wouldn't be satisfied when I said, "How do I know what it's about, I
haven't finished writing it yet."
Even then, sometimes it's quite a while later when I begin to see what
something is "about."
> >From my experience I know that I'd rather answer personal
> questions before questions regarding something that's not
> me anymore.
Someone once asked Robert Browning what a particular poem of his
meant. He looked at it for a while, then he said, "when this was written,
only God and Robert Browning knew what it meant. Now only God knows."
Of course, I heard that story told by Orson Welles, so it's probably not true.
As B/4,
John
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"An artist is someone who produces things
that people don't need to have but that
he--for some reason--thinks it would be a
good idea to give them."
--Andy Warhol
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:23:54 -0400
From: Jim <jimphynn@mindspring.com>
To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: Re: RDT Right Now #1683
Hey, gang! Sorry for my extended absence, which is likely to resume
after I make this post. (You don't really want to know how many
digests wound up being deleted, unread, in the past couple of
months.) Between work and moving the gf in with me, time's been
tight of late.
Simon had a space oddity:
>In a classic case of misheard song lyrics, some people have identified that
>song as "Clown Control To Mao Tse-tung"
For those who don't know the word for mishearing lyrics (or anything
else for that matter), it's "mondegreen." First penned in a Harper's
Bazaar article in the '50's, the author had heard the folk song "The
Bonny Earl of Morray," which has the lyrics "They had slain the Earl
of Morray and laid him on the green." Unfortunately for the author,
but fortunately for the English language, she thought they were
singing "They had slain the Earl of Morray and Lady Mondegreen."
Thus was born a word.
Among my favorites include "The ants are my friends, they're blowing
in the wind," "'When a man loves a walnut," and "Looking for a satyr
beneath these dirty sheep..."
>
>incidentally: what's the correct spelling? I've seen it written both way-
>Tse-tung as well as Zedong.
Both are correct. In the '80's, as China was trying to gain more
acceptance among its Western potential trading partners, it decided
to formalize the transliteration of its words and names. Using the
Roman alphabet, it adopted a fairly simple standardization of how to
pronounce the ten's of thousands of different characters that make up
the language. It's just that the "Tse-tung" spelling has been around
for so long and is so well recognized, it remains. (You'll see the
same thing with the capital city: is it Peking or Beijing?)
The Russians have done something similar, but guys like Tchaikovsky
are so etched into the public consciousness, we wouldn't recognize
the name if it were spelled "Chajkovskij," now would we?
> *** De-lurkers Unite! digest ***
Okay. :-)
My top five movies:
1. Mr. Holland's Opus
2. Cinema Paradiso
3. American Beauty
4. Hedwig and the Angry Inch
5. A Clockwork Orange
Top five albums (subject to change without notice)
1. Delerium: Poem
2. John Lennon: Plastic Ono Band
3. Cousteau: Cousteau
4. Harry Chapin: Dance Band on the Titanic
5. Tori Amos: Under the Pink
Jim
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Jim Goldman jimphynn@mindspring.com
ICQ: 6380342 www.mindspring.com/~jimphynn
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:52:07 -0400
From: "Bethany Rusen" <hejira@u-town.com>
To: "Dipfucks" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: more stuff
Loria wrote:
"It just infuriorated me that the Tower Records here closed, and
placed a big sign on their door, alluding to Napster and other such
mp3 exchanges as the reason they went out of business there."
that's such a huge amount of bullshit. especially for a HUGE corporation
like Tower. but i think the price issue that you mentioned is a big thing -
i was talking to one of my coworkers who's also a musician, and he mentioned
that CD sales are way down and DVD sales are way up - not just in our store,
but nationwide. why? because CD prices keep going up (at our store, retail
average is $17.99 and $18.99), while DVD prices have gone down (the video
guy at the store has to keep restickering DVDs that were $24.99 down to
$14.99 and such. we have really excellent movies that are $12.99 and less).
i was surprised, though, that in loria's example the independent store was
priced less than huge store chain. at Borders' yesterday, we were pushing
Springsteen's new album, pricing it at $11.99. and then we agreed to price
match the Best Buy down the street, which was selling it for $9.99. now,
Borders and Best Buy are taking a huge loss to sell the cds this cheap, but
they're huge corporations, and can justify and absorb that loss. whereas
Joe's Music, a little independent store down the street can't, so they're
going to sell it at retail.
as for MP3s and burning and whatnot, since i haven't chimed in on this
debate, i'll give my two cents. I copy and burn and download with impunity,
and i have a very hard time feeling guilty about it. why? because i have
600+ cds, and none of those are CDRs. i buy at least a cd a week. the music
industry and artists certainly aren't losing any money on me. i know that
may not be justification for some (or all) but it is for me.
goodness, i'm certainly verbose these days.
and btw, just to clarify - when you reply to me, call me Bethany and call
Beth Winegarner Beth, just to avoid confusion on either on our parts.
-bethany
_______________________________________________________________
a journal : http://hejira.u-town.com
the centralia project : http://centralia.u-town.com
"Why keep a journal? To stop time. To make a point about the pointlessness
of it all. To have company. To be remembered. For these is so much to be
recalled, with no one to do the recalling." (Ned Rorem)
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:54:29 -0400
From: arija.weddle@yale.edu
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: thus far
>>arija wrote:
>>i haven't heard the new tori songs, as we've established, but from
>what
>>i've heard about them, i think i'll be disappointed.
>no you won't be disappointed, I assure you :)
did i write that? well, let me take it back then. i downloaded A
Sorta Fairytale, Gold Dust, and Crazy (and tried to get Taxi Ride and
Amber WAves and Pancake, but Kazaa was being a butt) and.... ok.
[per violet's request, this may be termed a "spoiler", so scroll on by,
if you weren't planning on it anyway ;)]
i like the piano line a LOT on a sorta fairytale. it's very simple and
sad and the drum line with it is nice. it's pleasant. it's aurally
unchallenging. it's very listenable. if that's what she was going
for, then she's done it. the other two songs, though i only listened
through them once, seemed very similar to me. muted, and there's
probably a lot hidden there t hat i'll have to listen to more to
discover. but here's my thing. she wrote this album after and in part
in response to september 11th - i can't decide if the slow and muddled
nature that i pulled from these songs thus far is a brilliant
expression of the sort of emotion that everyone feels or if it falls
short in creation. what a hard thing to ask someone to do, of course!
i was reading The NEw Yorker at the gym the other day, and in
the "Readings" page, the author (i forget who, sorry) said that on
september 12th, writers around the world sat at their desks and wished
they weren't writers. the quote went something like "writing
necessarily invokes the imagination, but our imaginations were already
dominated that day" ... so of course any response to the attacks are
going to arouse disdain in some and accord in other people, because for
most people, this was a highly personal experience, even if you were
far away.
anyway, i don't want to say too much now, because i believe that my
opinion will be solidified when i hear the whole album as a work of
art. i guess i'm just yearning for pele tori, where she screamed and
wailed and let us romp through her mind (i AM in college, after all).
if scarlet's walk is what growing up is like, well, then i'm a little
sad too.
thoughts, anyone?
[enough out of me.]
arija
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:41:53 -0400
From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com>
To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: Laws, Laws, there are too many laws...
My favorite myers, Chris, was talking about laws and such and mentioned:
>>Punishment instead of funding or education<<
This is the main fault with this administration (Fed, State, Local are all
to blame). They believe in reactive policies as opposed to preventative.
It applies to everything as far as I can tell. In child abuse cases,
especially in PA, CYA must wait until visible signs of abuse are apparent
before they can get involved. Now, if social workers were to concentrate on
working with parents on parenting issues as soon as they get a complaint,
perhaps those visible signs of abuse would never appear. But no, the state
feels that it is better to remove the child after it's been hurt than to
educate abusive parents so the child can remain in an improved home.
In Quakertown, they busted almost 40 "young people" (between 17 and 24) in a
drug sting, but DARE has canceled all police interaction with students since
2000, sighting lack of funding. So you arrest the kid for having a half
ounce of pot, print his/her name and address in the paper, then have a
police record instead of educating kids about dangerous drugs and giving
them a chance to trust an authority figure. Some of the kids arrested
deserved it, having coke, E and heroin in mass quantities. But the kids who
just had weed were treated in the same manner. That's a reactive policy
that I disagree with. If they (the underage ones) had been caught with a
six-pack of beer or a fifth of vodka, they wouldn't have been humiliated in
such a manner. (legalization of pot should be something the most brain-dead
of legislators should realize will assist in the war on hard drugs, but
NOOO....)
And now we have copyright messes because of a new technology that wasn't
even dreamed of when the Bill of Rights was drafted. Reactionary
punishments aren't appropriate for this "crime", if it is a crime, of
copying. When I put a story of mine on my website, or the Dent, or where
ever on the web, I assume that people will download it and read it and maybe
print it out and lend to a friend. If I don't want that to occur, I do not
put my work out there. So we get into preventative measures. People who
create music have the choice to release it or not. I think that if an
artist does not want their music to be widely available, then it shouldn't
be released in the first place. An *artist* releases their work because it
needs to be released and shared. If one allows greed to color the way it's
released, then the work itself suffers.
My resolution, if I were supreme master of the universe, would be to allow
artists to say "yes, I want my work distributed on the internet" or "no, I
don't." If they choose no, that means nothing, ever. Not snippets or
whatnot. Those artists who agree, get well known, go on tour where the real
money is, and enjoy life and endless popularity and world-wide publicity.
The ones who don't...hey, they can still do things the old way; radio, press
releases, etc.
Life was simpler when all music was on vinyl and all written material was on
paper, but that was then and this is now. I don't make copies of every CD I
own, but I make mixes for myself. Yes, I listened to the down load of
Tori's newest single, but I wait until I have a CD to listen to it all. I
wouldn't make a CD out of pirated downloads, simply on ethical grounds. I
don't dictate to other people what ethics are, I just know my own. Just
like I wouldn't put my name on something I hadn't written. That's how I
look at it. Does any of this make sense? (does anything I ever write?)
Back to "applications of Real Numbers" which looks something like this:
8(7/2 x 9) + 3(~(44 + -11) = y <5 (and that's an easy one)
Fairy Blessings,
Bethey
I'm OK when Everything's not OK
cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say
And I have always been a Fairy.
www.bethcoulter.com
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:32:24 -0500
From: "juan manuel torreblanca" <cheefooska@hotmail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: the pope's here oh yay
simon said:
John B. wrote:
Subject: warped, fragile and petroleum-based
>You've just described the US political/economic system.
and (please correct me if I'm wrong because I am the ignoramus but) I think
that's pretty much the mexican economic resume as well in that ever so
amusing "describe yourself in 5 words" manner.
now the mexican people are high on opium because Su Santidad the pope mr.
potatoe himself is here to canonize Juan Diego... I watched it on TV for a
second yesterday and I couldn't take it it is insanity pure insanity and
simple fanatism and utter desperate evil how the media covers it and it made
me sick, besides the old man is a puppet! these days he can't even move he
IS a potatoe all red and yellow his face has lost all proportion and sense
becoming more and more a subject to be discussed by modern art critics. his
hunched-back would have inspired Victor Hugo a sequel no doubt. they
probably could dress one of those Disneyland animatronics in white and bring
it and its movements would be more natural and it would "increase the faith
in my heart" just as well as they drove it in the Pope-mobile in front of my
face for half a second while a dozen of other sheep cow and such cattle
brothers per square meter squeeze the air out of me...
my purpose is not to offend catholics here, but it is a travesty.
and today I hate hate HATE the catholic fanatic mexican hipocrisy more than
the usual and yuck the president kissing the fisher ring and saying he's
there just as Vicente Fox and I could puke and it took me 2 hours and a half
to get from my house to the office today it was one of the ugliest mornings
of my life... the first hour I laughed and felt part of a Cortazar story,
after the second hour I was ready to KILL at the sight of a cross or a
dirtyfishyixoyefish... anyway
Victoria McCabe,
I'm glad you de-lurked too... I liked your voice a lot!
write much much please don't wait a year til next time...
Grace is definitely one of my favourite records of all times Jeff Buckley
did magic, that voice leaves me at a loss for words to describe... we were
talking about emotion produced by an art form, this is the best example I
could think of today...
but, you know what? I didn't know Dream Brother was a book (I am ignorant
that way) and now THANK YOU because I will write it down and get my neurosis
to work on getting it as soon as I can I MUST READ IT!
I had missed this before but I'll undoubtedly have something to say now:
>Matt said: "cyndi wondered why i was sucked dry of any uplifiting
>thoughts post-portishead. well, all i can say is, if you haven't heard
>the album, then try to do so - it's a bloody harrowing listening
>experience. if you have heard it and find it anything other than
>difficult, i'd be interested to hear what you think of it so i can maybe
>listen to it in a different way next time."
Dummy is the best trip-hop cd of all times in my humble and completely
subjective opinion. Beth Gibbons' voice is the first voice I've heard since
Billie Holiday that reaches that devastating glorious deep place of sadness
and desolation, I had not heard a modern singer before beth who could break
the walls inside me and reach such heights (or lows) close had got wonders
like Janis (who was magic fiery magic)... but beth from the shy darkness and
loneliness that shines as much as she hates it and beams from the bottom of
the well throws that crying trembling airy voice of hers (which runs which
fears and wants to get out of the limelight as soon as possible) to
excruciating heights and the pain and blood of hers reaches and goes past
our civil walls... it's a fucking ugly mess, ain't it?
Portishead is definitely sad, its sadness oozes and touches you... of course
it does... but it is also extraordinarily beautiful... and about it being
difficult... well... I am biased here because (I might say: unfortunately) I
feel like that most of the time anyway... so portishead to me, when I first
heard it, felt just like a sweet word from distant home. like that old
blanket on me fetal position to doze off and slumber away.
I once said to myself, after seeing that NY concert on video, that if I were
ever to be part of such a magical perfect moment I'd be able to die
satisfied...
e was
listening to April march
I thought no-one else knew her (yeah only I did because I'm so unique) it's
a beautiful light simple thing her music, n'est-ce pas? is it Chrominance
Decoder the cd you've got? if it is, the song no.12 (I couldn't remember the
title for my life) is gorgeous me thinks, a bit melancholic deliciousness
and all frenchy je na sais quoi.
I shouldn't be writing
I'm a cynic procrastinater of the worst kind
I AM at the office and I will give this computer back to the claws of work
NOW
so bye
cheefooska the satanic cookie monster
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:25:30 -0500
From: Simon Booth <sbooth1@satx.rr.com>
To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: Re: RDT Right Now #1683
hello again!
loria wrote:
>5) Until the End of the World.
This is a very interesting movie. Very surreal! It's very rare that I see
a movie that I can't easily describe to someone, and the only thing to say
is "see it"! Interesting thing about it: I saw it on the Sci Fi channel,
and without giving too much away, it didn't seem like a sci fi film.
But I did enjoy it. Long movie but it moves along very well.
>
>Why is it always necessary for places of employment to have the air
>conditioning jacked so far up that I'm freezing while outside it is
>hovering around 95 degrees? Isn't there a happy medium *somewhere*?
Perhaps a throwback to the days of when computers needed massive amounts of
cooling. Or mabye it's misguided attempt to speed up the computers via
cooling to achieve superconductivity ;)
Of course we all know that Dr. Laura's computers run superfast. In fact,
she can levitate a smalll magnet over the plam of her hand, and she's the
only person who can hide from infrared cameras.
welcome Victoria!
who wrote:
>Speaking of musicals, for something completely different try Hedwig and
>the Angry Inch. Hilarious, catchy, and there's rarely anything yummier
>than androgyny.
Here comes Pat! ;)
juan wrote:
>I suspect if we reply here to simon's birthday he'll read the congrats a
>month later...
actually just a couple of days later ;) I really have caught up you know ;)
>but anyway
>HAPPY DAY WHICH IS ABOUT A MONTH AFTER YOUR BIRTHDAY!!!
>I've grown to enjoy and expect your sense of humour
>definitly a remarkable ingredient of this list to me
>take care.
>
thanks! :)
>I'm so poor these days I should wear an orange sweatshirt with the hood way
>up all over my face only letting my eyes be seen and mutter inintelligible
>insults at everyone and get killed... oh my god!
>you bastards.
how about a grey hooded sweatshirt and sunglasses? Would make for some
interesting looks from people when you're at the mailbox.
excellent commentary about emotion and art.
from cyndi:
> I SECOND THAT! Simon, you rock! :)
thanks :)
later!
Simon
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