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Date:
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Tori Amos, "Thoughts"
In this issue:
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yippie ki yaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy... yippi [ cyndi.crawford@juno.com ]
replies [ Simon Booth <sbooth1@satx.rr.com> ]
Chinese bit rot, bad TV, and other u [ "Mark L. Alexander" <alexander750@e ]
Oh God! Delurkers are taking over th [ Rebecca Brown Gregory <browngregory ]
boogie woogie woogie oogie. [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ]
But which dream brother? ;) [ "Lavenda" <earth@comcen.com.au> ]
as far as they see, they can offer n [ Matt Smith <M.S.Smith-01@student.lb ]
squirrels just wanna have fun [ "Madame Ade" <alexandriasisp@hotmai ]
some quick thoughts [ "Bethany Rusen" <hejira@u-town.com> ]
wow [ "Madame Ade" <alexandriasisp@hotmai ]
[ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ]
On August 1st in 1993, liking "Thoughts", and more food quotes.
In 1994, vulgar Tori and "Where's the romance?", the term
'feminazi', posts with no capiltalisation, Tori -is- walking on
to the tune of 'The Good, The Bad and the Ugly' at her concerts
(though was walking on to Rawhide earlier in the tour), a Tori
FAQ would be a good idea, Tori www sites, and Tori asks a
question of everyone on the internet (subject:
Really-Deep-Thoughts digest 31/07/94 Part 1).
In 1996, Fiona Apple, rabbits (and someone questions whther
there could be a link between the bunny and drug threads), and
reasons why the world can't end on Aug 14.
In 1999, why people mourned for JFK Jr, missing the 70's, car
accidents and house fires.
In 2000, moderating lists, and freedom.
In 2001, Sircam, suggestions start rolling in to "what songs
could Tori have done for SLG?", and responses to a list member
previously saying they'd just attempted suicide.
[ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ]
On August 2nd in 1992, concern and a response over tapes a list
member was sending out, and setlist and reviews of Tori's
Chicago concert.
In 1994, members were posting about Tori and nasty words and
sacreligious imagery, how Tori and Delerium intermingle, and
no-caps posters speak up (along with a few more anti no-caps).
Oh, the drama!
In 1995, abortion, continuing with the '95% of music is crap'
thread, Tori's 'spirit' inspirations for songs, and more
complaints about bounced digests.
In 1997, one member posts about playing 'Dark Side of the Moon'
and 'Wizard of Oz' simulatenously (a thread that is mentioned
at least once more in future years), and Ethan Hawke.
In 1998, a member posts excerpts from "Virtual Faith: The
Irreverent Spiritual Quest of Generation X" by Tom Beaudoin
that pertain to Tori are posted (Subject: Tori and Generation X
Religiosity).
2000, still discussing how and why a couple of people recently
left, and how we reacted to it all.
In 2001, more reactions to a members suicide attempt, songs for
Tori to cover (in general, and in the SLG vein), and more
discussion on computer viruses.
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Today's fuzzy ferret assistant: Lavenda
Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives:
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:54:56 GMT
From: cyndi.crawford@juno.com
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Cc:
Subject: yippie ki yaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy... yippie ki yo... and I'm a freak. :P
anyway.. so I'm writing to you guys right now from my email server's
webmail checker thingy.. and I'm attempting to type this without my
contacts on.. and it's proving to be DIFFICULT.
*puts contacts on* ah.. much better.
anyway, ON WITH THE REPLIES!
Lori said: "It just infuriorated me that the Tower Records here closed, and
placed a big sign on their door, alluding to Napster and other such
mp3 exchanges as the reason they went out of business there. If you
go around the corner from the old Tower, to the little new and used
cd shop my friend Rick owns, you'll see a business that has been there
for as long as Tower was in town, and they are thriving. What's the
difference? .... Little Earthquakes was selling at Tower for $17.99.
Rick's cd store? brand new, $14.99. Now, I dont know about you, but I
certainly didn't buy Tower's argument there."
I don't either.. blaming their crappy sales on Napster is laughable.
Simon said: "thanks for the birthday greetings everyone :)"
Simon, for you, anytime. *grin!*
Simon then said: "bethey's posting about her difficulties in her latest
class are a cautionary tale for us all: math sucks! ;)"
hell yeah it does! :P I hate algebra.
Hello Victoria! nice to see more people post.. it always is! :)
Victoria said: "I had a bizarre dream last night that Neil Gaiman and
Cameron Crowe were making a movie of my life starring Angelina Jolie, using
Tori's lyrics as dialogue. Yes, I am insane."
NO you are not.. you're lucky! lol that'd be a very interesting movie,
definitely. :)
Victoria then said: "I'm in the embarrassing state of West Virginia, in
case anyone is curious. Oh for a Tori concert anywhere near me. Sigh."
personally, I don't see much to be embarrassed about.. but then again, I
hardly do embarrass easily..
Then she said: "I blame pop music for the downfall of society. Really."
you too, huh? good. I'm sick of all the boy bands and crap like that..
I'm sooooo tired of it. I wish that the musicians I enjoy (Everybody from
Tori to Green Day to Michael Jackson to Kid Rock) had better airplay.. but
no.. the boy bands are taking over the freaking planet! :P yeesh.
Victoria THEN said: "Many songs don't come alive for me until I know
something of their meaning."
yow! same here.. at the very least, reading up about Tori's cover of '97
Bonnie and Clyde was definitely a good example to me because the original
scared the crap out of me and I was sitting there almost too scared to give
the SLG album a listen to simply because of that one song. (I listen to
albums in their entirety the first time--at least--I hear it. I refuse to
skip songs.) Then I did hear it, and remembered everything she said about
doing that song.. and enjoyed it.. VERY much.
cheefooska said: "artists are just like the rest of us exept when they're
possesed by their art (the moment of creation or performance) then they're
bigger than themselves, they are mediums..."
I LOVE the way you phrased that! it is SO TRUE! the really good
performers are the ones who immediately get kinda.. sucked into a trance
the moment they step onto the stage and take that first breath in to sing
the first note of the first song.. or the very moment one of their muscles
twitch to move that arm or leg to get started with dancing or playing their
instrument.. then they remain in that trance until the show is over, and
then drag themselves offstage to recover for the night only to do it all
over again the next day.. I LOVE how you phrased that!!!
cheefooska then said: "I guess sometimes you might be depressed or
disappointed in that "rest of your life" because you want to be in that
unearthly heavenly mad state all the time... and most can't..."
hell, even us mere mortals feel that way! Actually, I think all of us
are capable of this.. whatever kind of art we can do, it varies.. but we
are all capable of it, it's just that some--or most--of us haven't found
that yet. I've found my little moments when I'm editing together music
videos, or writing a very intense scene in one of my stories.. I can write
or edit for hours and then glance out the window and mutter "oh shit!" cuz
I see the sun coming up.. and yet I can't stop.. and it's all just for fun
too.
e kinda-sorta complained about Britney going to Mexico and then cancelling
the show.. lol.. his moral: "What's this story's moral? Become a Tori fan,
not a Britney fan."
I second that, e! TOTALLY. Tori is a better role model for ME (and I'm
nearly 21) than Britney could ever DREAM of being.. ARGH! lol
Simon said in reply to my "YAY FOR CABLE MODEMS!" to Arija: "yeah- ask
brian about cable modems! ;)"
okay.. er, Brian? cable modems? :D
Simon to me about that page I commented on as being very nice: "Hope you
didn't have any problems viewing the animation clips. I've have my laptop
act up when I've checked out those clips, but I think that's just
a limitation issue with my computer rather than a problem with the site."
nope, didn't have any problems with it at all.. it worked great. :)
Simon then said: "Still feels a little strange seeing myself depicted as an
animated character!"
ha! I can imagine! I'd love to see myself depicted as an animated
character! XD that'd be fun.
Simon then asked: "Don't you hate it when you're making obscure smartass
comments and someone manages to point out a flaw? ;)"
haaaa!! I always try to do that to my bf! rofl! poor boys.. lol..
Simon said: "In a classic case of misheard song lyrics, some people have
identified that song as "Clown Control To Mao Tse-tung""
ROFL! are you KIDDING?? HA!! that's hilarious!!
Simon said in reply to my post titled "damnation": "as in "101"? ;) Did
you get your site fixed?"
nope.. I wish Geoshitties would see that it hasn't been touched in years
and get rid of the damn thing.. grr.. I've got a better site now, damn it!
okay, that's all from me for today.. it's nearly 4PM here, and I still
haven't gotten ready for the day.. bah, smegma. rofl.. yeesh. much luhhhhv
to everybody! *blows kisses and waves like a beauty queen*
Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford (Keyyooo on ICQ and IRC, Keyyooo1 on AIM)
http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ --
http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ --
http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ --
http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=kittitude
Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do.
Not. Describe. Myself."
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Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 00:00:00 -0500
From: Simon Booth <sbooth1@satx.rr.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: replies
hello!
winterlion- have you been able to help your friend?
> *** Boldly Going Forward Because We Simply Can't Find Reverse digest ***
Star Trekkin! ;)
pj o'rourke is damned beyond redemption.
> *** Naugahyde Is Murder digest ***
cheap version of the infamous slasher flick about the killer with the
chainsaw would have a killer named "Naugahydeface" ;)
elisha- hope you're better (is the UV reaction problem improving?) *hug*
chris wrote:
> Doesn't anyone but me watch that stupid Idols show on Fox?
a loud "No fucking way!" from me. Seek professional help immediately! ;)
cyndi wrote:
> *evil grin* I'd want to sprout a penis.. not for any other reason
>except.. to see what the big whoop about penises are. :)
nothing about them at all. a useless appendage. evolutionary dead end,
that sort of thing.
there are two good places for eminnem CD's. either as props in a remake of
Farenhiet 451, or loaded on a rocket that's been launched into the sun.
juan- hope you're over the flu.
bethey- good article about the kid's theatre. although I do wonder what
Aussies really think of Steve Erwin's Croc Hunter schtick being described
as culture ;)
> *** Sometimes, When It's Quiet, You Can Hear The Brain Cells Die digest ***
happens when one watches too much relatity TV ;)
*hugs* to megan a. sorry to hear about your cat :(
kerri- hope the move to Georgia goes ok. Can you get net access in
Tiblisi? ;)
juan wrote:
>I watched a bit of Kubrick's lolita yesterday and I just love Peter Sellers
>when he's pretending he's a cop and talking about being "so normal and
>everything"
Have you seen Kubrick's other films? Sellers did an excellent job in "Dr.
Strangelove."
welcome back Lisa! :)
lotsofhugs to violet. how's your mom doing? and are you feeling better?
cool that kim knows someone who knows Matt Chamberlain :)
hey brian: no more bad chilli stories.
(although I was tempted to post something about how if you had lit a match
your house would have been the first Aussie manned spacecraft, but then
that would have crude and juvenile)
brad wrote:
>Garden update-----no red tomatoes yet but plenty of green ones. Eating
>squash...eating hungarian wax peppers.
don't they melt in the heat?
from violet:
>(I seem to have a dim recollection that my posts used to be more
>interesting.)
*hug* your posts are always interesting :)
chris wrote:
> But this is not the end of the world, just one of its many cycles.
true. ever notice that someone is always predicting the end of the world
every few years or so? And then there are all those people who had egg on
their face New Years Day 2000.
beth wrote:
>One of the things that freaked me out the most about my surgery was that I
>would have to be in a hospital for any length of time.
I can sort of relate- with the surgeries I had when I was younger, the
hospital stay itself isn't what got to me, it was feeling like I was
running into sort of a social protocol that dictates that sick people
(especially kids it seems) must be stoic in the face of adversity. In
other words, you've had major surgery, feel like shit, but you're still
required to act tough and like everything's fine when your family comes
around to visit, who on one hand acting like it's whining to talk about
going home, but on the other hand bitching about not recovering fast enough.
I feel awkward too when I've visited someone in the hospital, because that
same pretending things are "normal" thing seems to kick in, and I feel like
it's just lying to the person I'm visiting. I say if the sick person
you're visiting wants to "talk shop" about their situation, then encourage
it. I'd like to think that in that situation I can relate some helpful or
encouraging info for them.
> *** The Trouble With Reality Is There's No Background Music digest ***
uh, there's not? then what have I been hearing? ;)
e. wrote:
>I just have to say this: Tori has grown up. The question is, have we?
Of course we have. Through the music of The One we achieve enlightenment.
>As for dinner/friend/lover:
>
>I'd definitely have Tori for dinner, and I see everyone agrees on this one.
I know I do!
linda wrote:
>I mean, sure, SLG was fine and dandy, but it
>isn't the kind of music that makes me love Tori.
uh, by "fine and dandy", you mean "takes perfection to the next level",
right?
megan's slug story was interesting :)
brad speculated about tori:
>methinks she is divesting herself from her faerie persona.
don't even *joke* about something like that!
later!
Simon
contact me at: AOL IM: PhoenyxxS MSN: phoenyxx
ICQ: 155394538 Yahoo: phoenyxx2002
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Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 02:44:54 -0500
From: "Mark L. Alexander" <alexander750@earthlink.net>
To: "Scarlett's Hoopty" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: Chinese bit rot, bad TV, and other urban myths
--
Happy (belated) birthday Simon! Oh, and in case you wondered
about Chairman Mao, "Mao Zedong" is the currently accepted 'pinyin'
form. "Mao Tse-tung" was the earlier 'Wade-Giles' rendering, but
(IIRC) those were arrived at by applying Cantonese spelling and
pronunciation to Mandarin. Wrong wrong wrong.
On the subject of CDs and their (alleged) fragility:
They're not vinyl, and they're not shellac (thank goodness).
They're polycarbonate, which means (in theory) they're bulletproof.
Commercially produced CDs can take a surprising amount of abuse, and
even CD-Rs and CD-RWs are tougher than one might think. They're
WASHABLE! Not as in a washing machine or dishwasher, of course, but
they can be hand washed (in tepid water with a mild detergent,
mind--NOT soap, that'll leave a film--and be careful about keeping
stick-on CD-R labels dry). I've got CDs dating from 1986 that still
play just fine.
So what's this about CDs that won't play?
(3) Copy protection (rarer than you might think).
(2) Abused discs. Don't use them for teething rings, dog toys,
Frisbees, drink coasters, ashtrays, skeet targets, or flyswatters
(and yes, I've seen my colleagues use them for all the above); don't
simply throw naked discs on the floor or stuff them in a backpack;
don't use an engraver to mark them; don't use Brillo pads, scouring
powder, or nasty solvents to clean them, especially on the label
side; don't zap CD-Rs with X-rays or bake them in the oven; keep them
in a proper 'jewel box' for storage.
(1) FILTHY CD/DVD PLAYERS! Dirt is the #1 cause of player
problems--and the crud has to come from somewhere (hint hint). Use a
CD lens cleaner at the first sign of problems, and--if you're
comfortable with pulling the covers off your equipment--open it up
and vacuum the cigarette flour cat butts hair pizza dirt coins
sawdust crumbs dead coffee lint bugs out. Repeat this process for the
rest of your house. If you don't like the idea of poking a vacuum
inside the guts of your stereo, get a technician to do it (but be
prepared to pay).
As for degradation in sound quality with repeated copying, if
it's not a case of CD->mp3->CD (which *is* a lossy process just like
analog tape and vinyl, and will cause problems with repeated dubs),
the usual problem is with either dirty discs, fragmented hard drives,
or trying to burn the disc too quickly. (Also make sure you use "disc
at once" whenever possible.)
Then, Victoria McCabe wrote, concerning the sameness of pop:
This is so true, and so frightening. The globalization of mainstream
music, movies, and lifestyle is so suffocating and hopeless. It's always
been bad in America, but life here has reached a new level of
superficiality and 'norm'. It used to be that anything alternative
or 'weird' was just thought of as strange and was hard to find. Now it's
all but eliminated. And other countries, which once had more diversity in
entertainment and culture, are conforming to this fake, surfacy
popularity. I blame pop music for the downfall of society. Really. I see
the music industry reaching a point where no unknown artists will be
signed. Everyone will have to have connections or be willing to be molded
into a product that can be sold. It's already there to a certain extent.
I blame the media generally, and TV specifically. Look
pretty, sing pretty, dance pretty, no content: the formula for
success. Is it any coincidence that those "artists" who howl loudest
over "piracy" are typically the pop tarts and gangsta mooks, the
factory workers of the music world, cranking out this hour's hits
like so many toasters?
http://www.adbusters.org doesn't have a good beat, and you
can't dance to it. But I don't see Ani DiFranco complaining about
Napster. 'Nuff said.
If my TV could only do TV, it would already be gone.
Estraven.
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Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 02:57:02 -0500
From: Rebecca Brown Gregory <browngregory@mac.com>
To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: Oh God! Delurkers are taking over the list!
Hello again all, here are some replies:
Matt bragged about his recent cd acquisitions:
>hooray for cheap record stores, from which i purchased the following albums
>for
>a combined price of less than £27 this weekend:
>suzanne vega, "solitude standing"
>grandaddy, "under the western freeway"
>cocteau twins, "tiny dynamine / echoes in a shallow bay"
>natalie merchant, "live in concert"
>and tomorrow i will receive the belly collection and the new springsteen,
>hooray
I would very much like to hear about the Belly collection once you have the
chance to listen to it. Does it contain previously unreleased tracks? My
friends are always astonished that my copies of Star and King haven't made
it into the used CD bins yet, but I still pull them out from time to time.
Have you ever noticed how many Belly albums the average used CD store has?
It's a little sad. I always wondered how it would feel to be a musician
walking into a music store and finding an entire section of your used
albums. But on the bright side, it means a lot of people bought them in the
first place.
And Cocteau Twins! I adore them! In fact, now that I have a CD player in
my car, and not a lowly tape deck, I need to rebuy some of their albums on
CD.
My fellow delurker, Victoria said:
> Is there
>any album Ryan Adams won't sing on?
He's fast becoming one of those "collaboration sluts", isn't he? I have to
admit though, I've really been taken off guard by how much I like his album
Heartbreaker. I bought it on a whim after one of my friends had been raving
about him. His country and bluegrass roots really turned me off at first
(it's just never been my taste), but now it's been playing in the car
nonstop for the past couple of weeks. Other stuff I've been digging on...
Pete Yorn, The Hives, Black Rebel Motorcycle Club, and Badly Drawn Boy
(About a Boy soundtrack).
Juan said:
>(I like your name... I know I'm trite but it reminds me of Daphne de Maurier
>and Hitchcock and all fuzzy misty beautiful images of curvy stairs and
>crawling plants and vaporous dresses and ok enough I like it)
Wow. I wish I was half as interesting as my name would lead you to believe!
But thank you, and everyone else, for the warm welcome.
>how many cats have you got? what are their names?
My cats are Daisy Dead Petals (of course), who is a gray, white, and
marmalade calico and whose nose is actually half pink and half black (yes,
it looks as wierd as it sounds, and Dandelion, who is a black, white, and
orange fluff of a cat.
>*** De-lurkers Unite! digest ***
Ohhh ... think of the possiblities...
Okay, that's enough from me tonight, and it's way, way, way past my bedtime.
Rebecca
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Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 04:23:13 -0400
From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: boogie woogie woogie oogie.
did my last post get sent? I did it through my email webmail
checker thing and I said a lot of kewl stuff and if it didn't get sent,
I'm gonna be PISSED OFF. anyway, hey everybody! :)
Linda said: "I don't know what happened to that cool thing that I used to
have so much of.... what did I used to call it? Oh yeah....... time."
it disappeared on you didn't it? doggone.. rofl..
Lavs said: "ha! I just realised the new release date is my Dad's b'day. I
doubt he even knows who Tori is."
might wanna surprise him on his bday with some Tori stuff. :D
Bethany said: "goodness, i'm certainly verbose these days."
aren't we all? :)
Arija said: "i guess i'm just yearning for pele tori, where she screamed
and wailed and let us romp through her mind (i AM in college, after
all)."
funny you should mention BFP. I find myself loving it more and
more.. I loved it from the start, I mean, hell, Hey Jupiter was on it,
but I'm loving it more and more. it's growwwwwwing on me like stink on
rice! I love it!
cheefooska said: "Portishead is definitely sad, its sadness oozes and
touches you... of course it does... but it is also extraordinarily
beautiful..."
so in other words, if I play it in front of my grandmother.. or
within her earshot, she'll keep hassling me about all that depressing
music I listen to, huh? doggone it... I was listening to the FTCH album
and Northern Lad was playing and she walked by and yammered about how the
music I was listening to was so depressing that it was disgusting.
WHATEVER.
okay.. I read through the entire post today.. and couldn't find anything
else to reply to, funnily enough.. :P much love, everybody! *blows kisses
and runs away to play with the faeries and dance under the stars*
Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford (Keyyooo on ICQ and IRC, Keyyooo1 on AIM)
http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ --
http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ --
http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ --
http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=kittitude
Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do.
Not. Describe. Myself."
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Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:32:22 +1000
From: "Lavenda" <earth@comcen.com.au>
To: "Strange Little Arty Turners" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: But which dream brother? ;)
Welcome Victoria!
Oh I've had a fun week. Mon 5pm-Tue 11am was fantabulous... Tiarna fell off
her toybox and scared me near on shitless. Turned out blood was coming from
a tiny scratch on her cheek, with another mark between her brows and a red
line connecting them (for a start I thought she'd hit her head on the
toybox, but the marks were just from what she landed on). I was begining to
have visions of a trip to the hospital, with Glenn in Sydney and all, but
thankfully it was ok. Heh, she even told me it wasn't a sore between her
brows, it was a scar and she was being Harry Potter (heehee, today she's
been running around with a wand saying 'petrificus totalus' and the other
sayings not quite as clearly). Then Tues morning the alarm goes off at
5:30am. Yep, that's the time Glenn had had to get up the day before, and as
I said he was now in Sydney. Tiarna had been playing with the clock radio
the day before, and I hadn't thought to check it. Thankfully I was already
awake, but it did ruin the mood. Then about 10 mins later I hear another
thud from Tiarna's room, so I got out and meet her in the hallway, bend down
to give her a hug and feel the wet pants. Silly me forgot to put a nappy on
her didn't I? So I strip and dress her and strip and dress the bed, and set
the washign going with rain outside and no dryer. Then we've got playgroup,
and she manages to get her overalls caught up underneath her while she's
going to the toilet there and gets those wet! Thankfully another mum had a
spare pair of pants (and they were the right size!).
At least I didn't have to cook dinner that night. Then I picked up my new
sewing machine yesterday, haven't got around to playing with it yet, been
cleaning out the spare room (so we can move Tiarna into there). And today,
not that it was on the same level as the rest, but Tiarna unravelled the
whole roll of a brand new roll of toilet paper (she'd just been to the potty
and wanted to wipe herself. And there I was, leaving her alone and paying
heed to her 'No, I do myself' insistence! That's this weeks new sentance, a
lot better than 'Why?' that we were getting a while ago).
Yeah, and as I said, Glenn's in Sydney working. Last night he and the three
workmates he's down there with spent $360 (AU) on dinner!!! We'll see if
they get their wrists slapped for that when the bosses get the bill.
Yep, life is fun :)
Ahhh, mondegreens. In cleaning out I came across a clipping from a magazine
that had some, mostly to Aussie songs. The first one was a Cold Chisel song
"Cheep Wine": "Cheep wine and a female goat", when the real line is "Cheep
wine and a three day growth" (one would have to wonder what that person did
in their spare time...). Heh, then "You make the rice, I'll make the gravy"
from Billy Joels' "You may be right". One of my all time favourites is from
an Aus Crawl song (Reckless), with the mondegreen "She don't like dead
Canada beaver". The actually lyric is "She don't like that kinda behaviour".
:)
Oh, and thanks for the origin of the term Jim!
little starry arijaquakes typed:
>discover. but here's my thing. she wrote this album after and in part
>in response to september 11th - i can't decide if the slow and muddled
Actually, some of the songs (I don't think we know which yet - ooh, I think
Gold Dust was one) were in the works before Sept 11 and her tour.
X
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Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 12:41:16 +0100 (BST)
From: Matt Smith <M.S.Smith-01@student.lboro.ac.uk>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: as far as they see, they can offer no explanation
hi everybody
victoria (hi!) wrote:
"Has anyone heard Vega's new album (Songs in...)? "
i wonder if the lady on this list, who got me interested in suzanne vega,
might
like to share her thoughts on the new album? you know who you are, and
it'd be
great to hear from you :)
"Please share your thoughts on the rest of the album. I've been hesitant to
buy
Springsteen since the Ghost of Tom whatever. But I do love the Boss."
if i was to criticise at all, it would be just to say that it's a tad
over-long
at 73 minutes. but all-in-all it's a return to the great days of the e-street
band. it's got everything you might expect from an e-street band
record: "mary's place" is a live classic in the making, "countin' on a
miracle"
is a no-holds-barred rock-out, "you're missing" and "nothing man" represent
the
boss's soft, sensitive underbelly, and the gospel influence is centre-stage
on "my city of ruins". there's new sounds too, most obviously on "worlds
apart" which features vocals from asif ali khan and his group. the timing and
production are near-perfect, as always. lyrically springsteen has certainly
not lost his touch, understated as usual in his expression of the post-9/11
landscape. "you're missing" is one of the most touching for me:
"shirts in the closet, shoes in the hall, mama's in the kitchen, baby and
all.
everything is everything, everything is everything, but you're missing"
he has a way of bring back harrowing memories of the scenes on that day ("the
sky was falling and streaked with blood; I heard you calling me, then you
disappeared into dust, up the stairs, into the fire") but the end of the album
("my city of ruins") still manages to be uplifting.
overall i'm delighted with the album. i was a little concerned to hear of
an e-
street band album, as the new songs they've written together in recent years
had seriously underwhelmed me (i'm referring to the likes of "land of hope and
dreams", "41 shots" etc.) and i was hoping for more low-key solo projects
along
the lines of "the ghost of tom joad" (which i adored). but they've done
themselves proud, lived up to their past and created a great piece of work.
cyndi asked:
"which album is this?"
it's portishead's eponymously-titled second album, released in 1997 and
containing such tracks as "undenied" and "mourning air". it's likely that
you've heard "glory box" and "sour times" off the first album, "dummy".
i.m.h.o. "portishead" is to "dummy" what "the exorcist" is to "bambi".
speaking of which, top five movies (in no particular order:
1. the big lebowski
2. the crow
3. american beauty
4. good will hunting
5. the usual suspects
but there's so many more i want on my list (crouching tiger hidden dragon,
being john malkovich, grosse pointe blank, stand by me, girl interrupted, the
nightmare before christmas etc etc etc)
e wrote:
"Subject: France is a country"
and Franz is a German, but that has nothing to do with anything either
"Damn you Matt and your great musical taste. I've been longing for the Belly
collection for months now."
i got if off amazon for a paltry £7.99 and it's certainly worth having, if
only
for previously unreleased tracks such as "lilith" and hard-to-find b-sides
such
as "hot burrito #1", "judas mon coeur", "thief" and "broken". i just wish
they'd put more b-sides on there though, especially "john dark". great songs
though they unboubtedly are, do we really need "now they'll sleep" and "super-
connected" and "full moon empty heart" again?
simon wrote:
">Subject: damnation
as in "101"? ;)"
that classic british band of the early 90s, carter the unstoppable sex
machine,
released an album entitled "101 damnations", which will go down in history for
featuring the all-time classic "sherrif fatman". *eyes glaze over with
nostalgia*
and now i'm going to have to do my top 5 albums as well, just like jim did
(again in no particular order):
1. counting crows, "august and everything after"
2. the cure, "disintegration"
3. rem, "new adventures in hifi"
4. 10000 maniacs, "our time in eden"
5. tori amos, "little earthquakes"
juan, i just read your lovely words about "dummy" in the next digest and i
want
you to know that it's not my intention to diss portishead - far from it, i
think "dummy" is a wonderful piece of work too - just to point out that i felt
really drained after listening to "portishead" the other day. but heck, i
feel
like that after listening to "disintegration" sometimes, and "little
earthquakes" too.
phew, that was a long one,
matt
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Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 17:10:54 +0000
From: "Madame Ade" <alexandriasisp@hotmail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: squirrels just wanna have fun
cyndi said:
>Subject: hoagies and grinders, hoagies and grinders... navy beans navy
>beans navy beans.. MEATLOAF SANDWICH!
sloppy joe, slop-sloppy joe...
hey, anyone here like kenny young and the eggplants? i was at confluence (a
sci-fi convention in pittsburgh) and saw them live! BEST filk band ever!
hoorah!
-ade
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Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:15:57 -0400
From: "Bethany Rusen" <hejira@u-town.com>
To: "Dipfucks" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: some quick thoughts
first impression:
(SPOILER)
i finally got the new songs (thank you Beth for sending them to me!), and
after only one listen, i like two of them, sort of. the rest of them just
sound like mush, honestly. and did anyone notice that the songs tend to end
the same way?
i like A Sorta Fairytale. the difference between the two versions is _just_
amazing - but i like different parts of each. like i think the radio edit
fade-out is just dumb (though ideal for radio). but i think the extra verse
in the album version is just that - extra. the song sounds about 30 seconds
too long.
but Gold Dust I love. i keep thinking it sounds like a very uncontemporary -
almost like something that Frank Sinatra or Ella Fitzgerald would sing in
the 30s or 40s. anyone else have that vibe? there's just something very
traditional about structure, outside of the strings (which is about
thisclose to being too much).
but other that? not impressed.
hopefully with more listens my opinion will change. i hope.
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Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 19:33:15 +0000
From: "Madame Ade" <alexandriasisp@hotmail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: wow
http://weeklyworldnews.com/news/index.cfm?instanceid=40759
now WHERE could they get THAT idea from? ;)
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