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From:
rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Date:
Sat, 17 Aug 2002 22:49:13 -0700
Subject:
RDT Right Now V02 #1695
To:
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Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 02 : Issue #1695
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O "Thoughts right now... O
o What will become of me, o
o Become of her, become of we?" o
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Tori Amos, "Thoughts"
In this issue:
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birthday [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ]
one tequila, two tequila, three tequ [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ]
Unidentified subject! [ "Logan, Deadra" <deadra.logan@tcb.a ]
Hello!! [ Megan Sackett <MSackett@machalek.co ]
Re: An RDTRNer birthday! (Friday, 8/ [ "Julie H." <julieh214@hotmail.com> ]
RE: RDT Right Now #1694 [ Erika & Alan <alewis246@comcast.net ]
Memories are meant to fade. [ "John Bragazzi" <wasserman@operamai ]
if you like pina coladaas [ Emmanuel Caballero <spacedog@prodig ]
aol press release [ guapo stick <woj@smoe.org> ]
I am an idiot. [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ]
when I feel the snakebite enter my v [ Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.de ]
I Am a Real Man [ Brad Shultz <springhaze@comcast.net ]
[ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ]
On August 17th in 1993, members post about Kate Bush, discuss
the capitalised lyrics in the LE booklet, the fanclub (Upside
Down) and the fanzine (Really Deep Thoughts), and the Westwood
one show (still yet to air).
In 1995, the list is in stasis again.
In 1997, still no sign of Chris or the list.
In 1998, concert reviews, and a member reports hearing 'Icicle'
being played in the background of a documentary about raising
the Titanic.
In 1999, tour talk, more jabs at each other, more thoughts on
Bliss and 1000 Oceans.
To read more about these items, visit the list archives.
[ ================================================================== ]
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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 03:53:25 -0400
From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: birthday
DEADRA!!!!!!!! happy birthday!! :) (holy shit, my sig is longer
than this message!)
Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/368/ciara_blaze.html --
http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ --
http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ --
http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ --
http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=kittitude
Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do.
Not. Describe. Myself."
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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 04:24:04 -0400
From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: one tequila, two tequila, three tequila, FLOOR!
better make that peppermint schnapps, not tequila. I feel like a
fucking idiot. I grabbed the bottle (cuz I wanted to keep the bottle
after finishing the schnapps off) thinking there was less in there than
there REALLY was.. and now I'm sitting here having a little more trouble
typing than normal--I hardly do and now I'm correcting more than I am
typing!! fuck, fuck, FUCK! rofl.. ah but it's yummy. lol.. the worst part
is.. this schnapps is that Ice 101 brand. so it's 50.5 percent alcohol..
whee....... but the bottle looks so kewl. ANYWAYYYYY... on with the
replies. :)
....nevermind. maybe I better save the actual replies for when I can
think and type straight.. (but I'm not drunk, I SWEAR! just tipsy..) o_O
much love to everybody, tho! :) OH and um before I forget, check out my
Kittitude shop.. new items added yesterday, AND check out my mp3.com
shop.. my CD came up saying "for sale" today, plus you can see a pic of
me on the page.. :) the urls are, as usual, in my signature. :)
Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/368/ciara_blaze.html --
http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ --
http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ --
http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ --
http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=kittitude
Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do.
Not. Describe. Myself."
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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 08:17:18 -0500
From: "Logan, Deadra" <deadra.logan@tcb.aecom.com>
To: victoria@muruch.net, Tori List <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject:
Victoria asked: I was just wondering if anyone had info or
recommendations on anti-
depressants
I had a severe bout with depression. The doctor put me on Celexa. It takes
a week to two weeks to fully feel the effect. But, it helped me
dramatically. I was on it for about a year. It was not that strong and
didn't make me hyper or anything. You could also try going to GNC, they
have some natural stuff that could do the trick. I used to take them but I
don't remember what they were called. I'm sure you could ask the sales
clerk and they would help you. Whatever you decide, please let me know how
you get along.
Dancing Girl
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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 12:16:58 -0500
From: Megan Sackett <MSackett@machalek.com>
To: "'rdtrn@torithoughts.com'" <rdtrn@torithoughts.com>
Subject: Hello!!
I'm baaaack!! Kind of just popping my head in really. I
have been so incredibly busy lately and haven't even had
time to even skim through the digests. I didn't want to
write without knowing what was going on with the list, but I
also don't want everyone to forget about me either. :-)
Not much new is going on in my life, so this won't be that
interesting. My ex-boyfriend still won't leave me alone.
He shows up at my house in the middle of the night telling
me he loves me and he wants me back and he will get his shit
together for me. Blah, blah, blah! He always wants one
more chance or a week to prove himself. I told him he had a
week, but if he fucked up once, his week was up. His week
lasted about 15 hours. He calls my friends when he knows
I'm with them trying to get them to bring me to his house or
he'll show up where we are. My parents still call him. My
mom, stepdad and little brother bring their cars to him to
get fixed about once a week. My stepdad's there today. I
am bugged by this and have asked them to stop, but they
won't. Do I have the right to be upset by this? Anyways,
enough about him.
My little baby is starting kindergarten in 2 1/2 weeks!!! I
am not ready for this at all. I can't stop picturing him
being all grown up and hairy. I think I am having a bit of
seperation anxiety disorder and he's not even going
anywhere. Why can't they just stay little forever? I am
taking him school supply shopping this weekend and school
clothes shopping next week. I am taking the whole day off
work on his first day of school so we can go do something
fun after school. Maybe go to Camp Snoopy at the Mall of
America. He is getting so smart. He uses big words all the
time. He was with my friend, Troy, going to the water park
one day with a couple other kids and one of the kids hit
him. Tanner said, "Um, excuse me. You just hit me and I
don't like to be hit so I would appreciate if you didn't hit
me ever again." How cute is that? He has these funny
philosophies on life. They aren't always right, but I could
see how he would think they make sense. He told me the
other day that he was gonna live with me forever, even after
he has a wifeand kids. I'm sure his wife would really
appresiate that. He is just so sweet and fun. Okay, I'm
sure you guys are getting bored with my gushing, so I'm out.
PS - I told you it wouldn't be that interesting.
Megan Sackett
Office Manager
Machalek Communications
MSackett@machalek.com
www.machalek.com
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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 12:31:08 -0500
From: "Julie H." <julieh214@hotmail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: Re: An RDTRNer birthday! (Friday, 8/16)
8/16/02
Happy 23rd birthday Deadra!
Julie H.
E-mail: JulieH214@hotmail.com
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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 14:53:24 -0400
From: Erika & Alan <alewis246@comcast.net>
To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: RE: RDT Right Now #1694
Matt asked...
>"RAINN was also named one of "America's 100
>Best Charities" by Worth Magazine."
>
>now how the heck do you judge good and bad charities?
I can't say if this is the criteria "Worth Magazine" uses but I think
charities are often judged by how efficiently they use their money. RAINN
to quote the website "More than 88 cents of every dollar raised is spent
directly on services for victims of sexual assault, making RAINN one of the
most efficient charities in the U.S. Your generous help today is much
needed, and appreciated."
Less than 60% spent on the actual service is usually the sign of a charity
that wastes money on such thing as higher salaries. So, 88 cents or 91$ per
100$ according to Worth magazine is quite high.
Erika
PS- there are new pictures. We had a visit from Alan's parents for two
weeks. They absolutely fell in love with the little man. Great help for me
too.
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Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 03:46:03 +0800
From: "John Bragazzi" <wasserman@operamail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: Memories are meant to fade.
Matt asked:
> now how the heck do you judge good and bad charities?
The only standard I've seen used (and I admit it's not something I pay a
lot of attention to) is what percent of the money they raise actually goes
to the cause in question, and how much of it goes to overhead and to
further fundraising.
Victoria said:
> Looks like Fiona Apple is working on a new album. Possibly to be released
> by the end of this year. It's about time.
I think I read somewhere that it's an album of standards. I don't object
to albums of covers (obviously), but I think it's a wee bit early in her
career for that.
> It's a long bizarre tale and I don't think it belongs here. Maybe.
Well, that decision is up to you, of course, but I think it's exactly the
type of thing which does belong here. There are people here with all kinds
of different experiences with depression and medication and related topics.
I can almost guarantee a diversity of opinion, no matter what you're
considering. :-)
> I think Bowie's hotness is underrated. Have you seen The Hunger? Bowie as
> a vamp. I really need to get that.
He's extremely attractive, always has been. And he moves really well, too.
I'm a member of BowieNet, though I'm not always active there, and his
messages and journal entries (yes, he has an online journal) are
wonderfully wry and often heartfelt. He and Iman posted a message after
September 11 (they live in lower Manhattan) which I found quite moving.
(It amused me when they married and some people complained about "aging
rockers marrying young supermodel wives," since the supermodel wife in
question is only six months younger than I am.)
> >That thing is one unbelievable piece of ear-fuck.
>
> I love that line!
And I love that movie (Strange Days, for those who don't know).
As B/4,
John
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"I don't know anything about poetry."
-- William Blake
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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 15:14:03 -0500
From: Emmanuel Caballero <spacedog@prodigy.net.mx>
To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: if you like pina coladaas
I'm a happy camper.
Going off to the beach for the weekend. May everyone have as much as a good
time, be telling you how it went sunday.
C ya everyone
e.
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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 17:45:34 -0700
From: guapo stick <woj@smoe.org>
To: torinews@smoe.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>,
rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: aol press release
nothing new, but posted for completeness' sake:
<url: http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/020816/162169_1.html >
Friday August 16, 1:34 pm Eastern Time
Press Release
SOURCE: America Online, Inc.
Tori Amos Debuting 'a sorta fairytale' Exclusively On AOL Music First Listen
NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 16, 2002--Starting today and all weekend,
fans of leading singer/songwriter Tori Amos will be able to hear the highly
anticipated new song "a sorta fairytale" by going to AOL Keyword: First
Listen. In addition, for the next three days, music fans can hear the song
on the Web at Netscape Music (http://music.netscape.com), AIM Today, ICQ
and CompuServe. "a sorta fairytale" is the first single off Amos' new
album, Scarlet's Walk, due out October 29. Scarlet's Walk represents her
first album of original material in three years and her debut for Epic Records.
One of the most celebrated and respected artists of the last decade, Tori
Amos (http://www.toriamos.com) is a unique talent whose distinctive voice
and thought provoking songs have mesmerized and inspired a generation of
fans across the globe. Worldwide, her critically acclaimed discography
includes the 1992 multi-platinum breakthrough album Little Earthquakes and
1994's Under The Pink, as well as the platinum successes Boys For Pele,
From The Choirgirl Hotel and To Venus and Back. Her most recent
"reinterpretations" record, Strange Little Girls, is certified gold. Tori
Amos has received eight Grammy Nominations for her work.
AOL Music's First Listen program has emerged as a premier outlet for
music's hottest stars to exclusively debut new music. From Brandy to Bruce
Springsteen to Moby, First Listen lets music fans hear new songs from their
favorite artists before they are available anywhere else. First Listen
offers artists a compelling and coveted opportunity to reach a global
audience through AOL Keyword: First Listen, AOL Music's network of music
sites on Netscape, AOL Instant Messenger's AIM Today, ICQ and CompuServe,
as well as AOL's international affiliates in countries around the world.
About AOL Music:
AOL Music, a division of America Online, Inc., reaches the largest audience
of online music fans in the world through a rich array of programming
products and services that make it easy to discover, experience, listen to
and buy music online. AOL Music's leading offerings include the number one
Internet music destination, AOL's Music Channel; premier online radio
products, Radio@AOL and Radio@Netscape powered by Spinner; the most popular
audio jukebox player, Winamp, and Webcaster directory, SHOUTcast. AOL Music
programming, products and services are available throughout the AOL
Service, AOL High Speed Broadband Service, and AOL's family of Web brands,
including Netscape, CompuServe, AIM and ICQ. America Online, Inc. is a
wholly owned subsidiary of AOL Time Warner Inc. (NYSE: AOL - News). Based
in Dulles, Virginia, America Online is the world's leader in interactive
services, Web brands, Internet technologies and e-commerce services.
About Epic Records:
Epic Records was launched in 1953 and quickly established itself as one of
the premiere music labels in the world. Epic is now home to artists from
virtually every musical genre, including such groundbreaking artists as
Celine Dion, Macy Gray, Jennifer Lopez, Pearl Jam, Shakira, Sade and many
other world renowned artists. Epic Records (http://www.epicrecords.com) is
a wholly owned subsidiary of Sony Music Entertainment.
Contact:
America Online, Inc., Dulles
Ann Burkart, 415-934-2768
burkartann@aol.com
or
Epic
Denise McDonald, 310-449-2182
denise_mcdonald@sonymusic.com
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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 17:58:47 -0400
From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: I am an idiot.
okay, I'm such an idiot. I tried to write here while half-smashed
(but not drunk) and didn't get any replies done.. *note to self: never
attempt to do RDTRN when sipping on peppermint schnapps*
on with the replies!
hee hee.. the Aug. 15 Retro said: "On August 15th in 1992, a member posts
that a Tori long-form video (the LE video) is not cancelled, just delayed
on Tori's part (yes, this is the eventual LE video)."
ha.. did you do that for me? lol
Julie asked: "How do you advertise your birth date? What are everyone's
birth dates on here?"
well, the info on how to get your birthday announced is at the
bottom of every RDTRN post.. just scroll down past the digest title of
the day and you'll see info like where to see archives, get your birthday
announced, and so on.
Megan the Succubus Barbie said: "Now I want to go to Afghanistan and give
people televisions. Is that so wrong?"
give 'em books and blue pepsi too, and I'll be satisfied.
Matt pondered: "now how the heck do you judge good and bad charities?"
well.. methinks.. firstly.. judge on whether they've been
involved in any money squandering etc scandals, stuff like that.. and
then judge on just how much that charity is involved--how many calls or
donations have been made by it.. and so on.. that's my guess at least.
Victoria basically explained to us that she is going to try an
antidepressant, etc: "I was just wondering if anyone had info or
recommendations on anti-depressants."
um, first, get a reliable doctor of course.. secondly.. I hear
Zantax is good..
Victoria said then: "Nah, MTV only plays Tori videos once and then the
video storage elves steal them away."
um.. from what I've seen, they're more likely to play Michael
Jackson than her, and they almost NEVER play HIM! :P damn it, I WANT MY
TORI MUSIC VIDEOS!! O_O
Rebecca posed an interesting thought on the "real man" debate.. on what
makes a real woman. I think what makes a real woman is honesty, for
starters.. women who don't feel the need to lie (unless their lives or a
loved one's life depended on it, but that's different.) or cheat (unless
it's a cheat code or two on a game--like The Sims or Grand Theft Auto 3
;) ) or steal, or harm and backstab innocent people.. are real women to
me.
John mentioned Rocky and Bullwinkle.. DUDE! I saw reruns of that on
Nickelodeon YEARS ago! what about Underdog, remember him??
for Julie: this is from the end of a digest in case you keep missing it,
or in case you wanna do it NOW instead of scrolling ALL the way to the
bottom..
---> Want your BIRTHDAY announced on RDTRN in 2002? Visit the
registration form located at
http://www.torithoughts.org/RDTRN/birthday.html
and on that fluffilicious and funky note.. *blows kisses and waves* ciao!
Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford (Keyyooo1 on AIM, Keyyooo on ICQ)
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/368/ciara_blaze.html --
http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ --
http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ --
http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ --
http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=kittitude
Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do.
Not. Describe. Myself."
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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 16:58:28 -0700
From: Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.devin.com>
To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: when I feel the snakebite enter my veins
John B. wrote:
> Watch this space for further announcements.
Looking forward to seeing the comics. :)
Cyndi wrote:
> basically an imperfect man that still tries to be perfect? :) I
> like your answer, Beth, I really do. :)
Or, as SARK put it, "splendidly imperfect." There is really no such thing as
a perfect person. Everyone's got flaws, and in fact I think people's flaws
in general make them more interesting - especially if they're aware of and
working to repair those flaws that can be changed.
Beth
--
"This country has a deep fear and mistrust of strong, smart, accomplished,
outspoken women unless they are sexy 22-year-olds killing vampires on
television." -- Dennis Miller
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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 20:26:37 -0500
From: Brad Shultz <springhaze@comcast.net>
To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: I Am a Real Man
and poop on you all who don't think so.
Matt asked about how you judge good charities. I would say that the
quality of the charity is how much they return to the intended recipient
versus how much they kept for admin costs. The larger they give the
recipients vs. admin equals better charity
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