RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #1706

RDT Right Now #1706

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 04:34:13 -0700
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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to: <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the subject and body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 02 : Issue #1706 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o some obvious opinions and some reply [ madoria@mail.telepac.pt ] Re: RDT Right Now #1705 [ arija <arija.weddle@yale.edu> ] rumi help [ Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.de ] utterly confused and swirled [ Succubus Megan <Abulia@imaterrorist ] Remember the Day in a good way [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ] babies, sleepiness, and silliness in [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ] woofiness. [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ] [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] On September 8th, 1992 a member posts all of the lyrics to "YKTR," discussion of Tori's upcoming TV appearances, including the MTV video music awards, and a member solicits questions for an interview with Tori in Canada. In 1993, list members ponder what songs Tori would do a good job of covering, people post their top ten favorite Tori songs. In 1994, a "chain tape" of Tori's cover songs is organized and musings about "Yes, Anastasia" occur given the apparent discovery of the original Anastasia's bones. In 1997, list members discuss Princess Diana and Prince Charles, Mother Teresa's death and Fiona Apple's mental state. In 2001, list members discuss Wicca, smoking, and weirdest foods. [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] On September 9th in 1994, a list members posts comparing Tori songs to painting techniques and members discuss "Yes Anastasia." In 1996, members discuss different versions of singles and one member posts an inflammatory email "review" of "Boys for Pele" and Tori's music. In 1998, a list member posts Francesca Lia Block's story "Orpheus" from the book "Girl Goddess #9" in its entirety and there is more discussion about teeth-falling-out dreams and dental problems. In 1999, a list member posts statistics from a survey on physical violence in American families and writes about violence, gender and world politics. Members also discuss Tori's relationship with God. In 2000, Natashya Lorien's name is announced, more congratulations are posted. In 2001, a member posts some tips for self-defense and members discuss the internet ticket presale. [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] On September 10th, 1992, in a pre-"Little Earthquakes" "Entertainment Weekly" blurb, Tori responds to a question about people comparing her music to that of artists such as Kate Bush: "You know when you feel like sometimes the fairy godmother has put her little dink on your hat, and you just feel like something magical is kind of happening at this moment, and you allow yourself to go with that?" she asks. "I think what people are just comparing is that dink on your head. I think those other women were dinked, too." In 1993, a list member posts a list of songs he hopes Tori *never* covers, including "Wild Thing," "Love Shack" and "Cop Killer." In 1994, a list member posts the entire text of Tori's introduction to "Death: The High Cost of Living" by Neil Gaiman. Tori writes: I know Death is somewhere inside of me. She was the kind of girl all the girls wanted to be, I believe, because her acceptance of "what is." She keeps reminding me there is change in "what is" but change cannot be made till you accept the "what is." In 1997, a message is sent out to all list members saying that Chris Meyers had requested that RDT be taken over, so Thoughts Right Now would serve as the current incarnation of RDT. [Even at that point, it still never occured to me that my role in running the list would be anything other than temporary or that Thoughts Right Now would actually *become* RDT. And here it is, five years later. -- V.] And so although we didn't know it at the time, Chris Meyers' Really Deep Thoughts offically comes to an end and Violet's Thoughts Right Now takes over permanently. The combined name change would happen a month later. To read more about these items, visit the list archives. [ ================================================================== ] Today's fuzzy ferret assistant: Andrea Norstad Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:52:51 +0100 From: madoria@mail.telepac.pt To: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: some obvious opinions and some replys... i'm back! hey everyone! it's been really long time since last time i wrote in here, but you know... work, vacations, work and all the time it took me to catch up with rdtrn posts. meanwhile, i've heard the sample from www.toriamos.com from scrlet's walk. which i *really* loved! No, i haven't heard the other tracks, though my brother has the entire 6 tracks downloaded. It's a matter of principle, you know? and i think that october, 29 is *the* perfect date: it's my brother's birthday, and he was the one introducing me to tori, so it seems almost like this is gift from her (and from me, who is going to buy him the cd ;) anyway, i'd like to add that i loved a poem that one of you wrote (sorry, but i don't recall who), despite some disagreements, i found the mp3 discussion a constructive one, it made me realize some things... Thanks Matt and all! Baker Girl - sorry for what happened in your job... Lavs, when is your baby going to born (or has he/she born already?) Cyndi, congrats for your nephew! this will be all from me! but before, let me ask you for a list of november songs... he ones i can remember right now: november rain - guns n' roses run, baby run - sheryl crow ("she was born in november,...") take care everyone! maria -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 11:01:18 -0400 From: arija <arija.weddle@yale.edu> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Re: RDT Right Now #1705 bethany wrote, re: avril lavigne: >Avril Lavigne just cracks me up to no end. this little girl pretending to be >punk when she wasn't even alive when punk was big. plus Sk8ter Boi. 2 good 2 >b 4 gotten. i know what you're trying to say, but i seriously doubt that avril lavigne and pink and anyone else who is "punk" these days is trying to recapture the essence of what was started by the sex pistols and the clash. and while i'm sure lester bangs would disapprove of miss lavigne, i don't, because this "punk" movement is really just about image. i mean, i'm pretty big into ska-punk, but i wasn't alive when punk was really big either. so for that reason, while i appreciate the pioneers in the 70s, i tend to get more into today's "poppier" punk - a new found glory, good charlotte, the white stripes. they are less about the politics and more about the reclaiming your childhood part of punk (and here's where i agree with you, because avril is still a child and besides, her music sounds like pop to me.) but Sk8ter Boi drives me fucking mad. when my 12 yr old sister and i send IMs to each other, she writes all her sentences in code like that. my sister is so fucking cool - she's entering 7th grade and is among the most popular kids in school. (my parents probably have no idea how to deal with that, seeing as how their other daughter never had that problem.) though em has a shred of me in her somewhere, because among her posters of boy bands and male actor idols on her walls, she's got a big ol' tori amos poster. you drive fast, i'll do the drugs, arija ************* To me, the worst thing about the fall of a civilization is that most of their good sayings are lost forever. Like what if the Aztecs had a saying, "Don't eat corn on the day you are born"? We could use that saying today, but now we don't have it. Thanks, Cortez. -- Deep Thoughts, by Jack Handey -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 15:22:06 -0700 From: Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.devin.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: rumi help I'm looking for a poem by Rumi that talks about how when two people form a bond, it creates a being which must be nurtured. Greensleeves? anyone? email me. :) Thanks, Beth -- "This country has a deep fear and mistrust of strong, smart, accomplished, outspoken women unless they are sexy 22-year-olds killing vampires on television." -- Dennis Miller _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._ music reviews + stories + poetry + photography + collage + Watchers livejournal + selkies + esoterica + links = http://echoes.devin.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 17:06:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Succubus Megan <Abulia@imaterrorist.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: utterly confused and swirled Hola mes amies, Extremely odd day. Incredibly odd day. Bizarrely odd day yesterday. I was shaking. Really. I couldn't stop shivering and it wasn't even that cold. It was only 60 out at the worst, but there was a wind and I was so freaked out. I had to climb into bed and huddle under the covers for a few minutes, trying to get warm. I couldn't stop shaking. A guy. A guy I had met two days before, played chess with and made jokes with, stopped by today in my dorm to say "hello". And we talked and played games and talked some more and I kept on picking up these hints. Not so subtle hints, although he was trying to be clandestine. Hints like, "I always hold doors for pretty girls. That's why I held it for you." or long conversations about previous crushes and such. And then, he said, "I like you" and he meant it. And I started to feel terribly, terribly weird. You must understand, I was the epitome of shyness in high school. Guys scared me. I didn't know how to talk to them or trust them. And then I go to college and I meet someone and he tells me that I'm pretty and that he likes me and it's the first time in my life that a guy has told me that and meant it. I speak of other things to distract him after smiling and showing him that I accepted that fact and I'm trying, very hard, to show that I'm not terrified. Entirely and complete terrified for no distinctive reason. It gets late and I tell him I'm sleepy and I walk him out to his car and wave goodbye, but then he's like, "Don't I get a hug" so I grin and hug him and wave goodbye to his car and then run back to my dorm, shivering like crazy and I'm unable to stop shivering. This has never happened to me before. I never had a boyfriend in high school. And now some guy thinks I'm pretty and tells me so. And I have no idea what to do. I'm going to keep in contact with him. No doubt about that. It's just this is a new and odd and nervous situation for me. And my stomach feels unbearably light. And yesterday was impossibly bizarre. Can anyone else remember how they acted this first time this happened to them? The first time a guy/girl told them, in all honesty, that they liked them? Were you as freaked out as I am? Oh twisted and fluttering nervousness! How I loathe the sensation! Such a very odd day. How Now, Brown Cow? Megan Christine Auffart *************************************** I never saw a Purple Cow, I never hope to see one; But I can tell you anyhow, I'd rather see than be one! --- Gelett Burgess (1866-1951) *************************************** http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/abulia/ _____________________________________________________________ Sign up for FREE insane email from tshirthell.com's E-Mail Hell at http://www.tshirthell.com _____________________________________________________________ Promote your group and strengthen ties to your members with email@yourgroup.org by Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net/?btn=tag -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 12:14:27 -0400 From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Remember the Day in a good way I decided for my photojournalism project to do Quakertown, a Year After. I decided to cover what the schools were doing, mostly because we were in the eye of the storm last Feb with the "mystery rash". I called the Superintendent to ask permission and he denied it. He tried to give me excuses (have to get permission from all the parents, etc.), but when I over came each of his objections (it's a college project, no permission needed), he finally told me there is too much hype about 9/11. The district will hold a moment of silence at 9:03 and that's all the observation that will be made. He further asked me without directly asking me not to cover the rash aspect of the story (it has been so buried everywhere, like it never happened). OK. I won't cover "Kids Remember". I contacted the local paper and got a pic of said superintendent being grilled by the national press and will use that to illustrate how it was, and how it is now. But I was disturbed that all this town is doing is having a bell ringing at the times of the four crashes and a moment of silence. The churches will hold services, but what about the non-worshipers who wish to do something? The VFW will have a flag ceremony at noon, but I don't expect many to attend. I mentioned to my friend Jeremy that I would like him and his boyfriend to join me for a candlelight vigil that night at 8PM. Just the three of us and see if anyone would join us. Before I knew it, he arranged with Main Street Theatre to send out the word for the vigil and to invite people to bring their favorite songs, poems and thoughts of the day to share. Nothing like watching a little idea grow legs and walk off on it's own. It'll make for some good pictures, but it strikes me as so little. So what should we do on September 11? I think that what everyone all over the world should realize it was a day that Hatred ruled and we should respond with Love. I think 9/11 should stand for a day when we think of others and try to do good works with glad hearts. Clean a roadway or help out a neighbor. Read to a class of children or volunteer at the schools to help out for the day. Do something other than sitting in front of the tube and watching people grieve. Healing occurs when we start looking outward. John Lennon and Paul McCartney had it right. All you need is Love, and Give Peace a Chance. Let the warlords work out the politics of it. We as members of society should focus on our society. Peace and Fairy Blessings on all, Beth "The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A vision without a task is but a dream. A task without a vision is drudgery. A vision with a task is the hope of the world. -unknown Beth's Really Deep Thoughts www.BethCoulter.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 15:11:11 -0400 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: babies, sleepiness, and silliness in general. hiiiiii everybody! :D okay, so I'm lazy.. SO SUE ME! :P lol.. it's 2PM and I just woke up. o_O anyway, on with the replies! :D the retro for digest 1704 said: "In 1994, Tori and Kate, Kate and Tori (Kate Bush, that is), one concert-goer declares: Tori... *attacks* the piano. Makes love to it, Klingon-style." hoooo boy! rofl.. I bet Worf would love that. lol the retro also wanted to revive the following: "Quick, write down the first thing that comes to mind... What is one thing that *always* cheers you up? It doesn't have to be the only thing, but what is the first thing that pops into your mind when you try to think of something you like that always makes your day or makes you feel better or comforted?" to me, the first thing that went into my head is.. putting in the FTCH album to listen to, the 2nd thing that went into my head is.. from LE all the way to SLG.. having a little Tori marathon in my stereo.. :D Beth said: "I think it's poignant that on September 12 there will be a special ceremony in Arlington Cemetery for all the unidentified, unclaimed victims of the attacks on New York/DC.< I think the stuff we're doing for 9-11 is a good thing.. but if only people (and the media) would just quit trying to commercialize off of it, dammit! grr... it's their fault that I'm not truly feeling the way other people are about it. I feel, in fact, a bit jaded over it, and I do not like it. I actually wonder if I SHOULD be feeling like "maybe this'll finally make everybody get over it" in reference to the 1-year anniversary.. I dunno if it's just me being cynical or if it's me being burned out on all the sensationalism being made over 9-11, but I'm sitting here hoping nobody (meaning the media and people trying to get money out of us) makes another big whoop about it after this year until the 5th anniversary and then the 10th, 15th, etc.. am I being ridiculous..? o_O ANYWAY.. I'm gonna take a look at your story, Beth, and I'll let ya know what I think of it in the next digest. :) Beth also said: "Holly, redstamen and I just got back from visiting Brian Cooper during his stopover in San Francisco. We all seem to have survived the experience intact. :) Now he just has to make it from SF to LA -- and it's his first time driving in America. Keep your fingers crossed for him!" oooh! is he having fun? :) I've been to California before.. in the SF area.. lol.. it was fun. Simon said to Lavs (I think): "so many computer games, so little time ;) you act as if computers weren't made for games :) Of course to free up the computer you need a Playstation 2 :)" I have a PS2 and what *I* need is that bloody SSX TRICKY GAME!! argh. I've played it before and I love it and dang it I WANT IT!! Simon then said: "It's like what we feel when we listen to tori's music or read about what's happened to her. We're not claiming in a "me too" way, we're feeling a connection because of the powerful emotions she conveys to her audience, and feel inspired or helped by hearing her music doesn't mean we've tried to steal or misappropriate something that wasn't ours." yes, but keep in mind that Tori has said that once she's sung the song, it isn't *HERS* anymore, it's ours, etc.. she doesn't believe in interpreting songs and analyzing 'em etc for that reason either, I believe.. lol Simon then said: "Knowing someone else has overcome adversity helps in working through one's own difficult situation and I think tori feels good knowing that her music has helped so many of us :)" hell, I'd be a bit in awe to think that one of my songs saved somebody's life.. o_O Simon on going back to school: "The only thing I'm really concerned about is that the head counselor at the disabled student services office there once told me that I wasn't welcome by the disabled community there (or elsewhere too from what she said) and I took that to mean *always* so yeah, I'm a little skittish about that if it turns out that I need to access whatever help I might need from them." bah, tell her to kiss your butt if she's gonna be that stupid about it.. that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard from somebody! "not welcome" pffft! *shakes head* Simon then explained: "The gist of what happened was that I got accused of exaggerating or outright faking my disability as a sick attention ploy and got "busted" when other disabled students figured that my disability wasn't legit based on the lack of certain secondary things I don't have to deal with that some other people do deal with because of their respective conditions, along with being seen doing things off campus in spite of being in a wheelchair. Things like hanging out with friends and going to movies." oh in other words.. if you're disabled, you're not supposed to have a life? as I mighta already said.. that.. is.. absolutely.. RETARDED!!! what the hell are they saying that kinda shit for? geeeeesh! I wish it hadn't affected you like it did, cuz that argument is pure crap! (and rofl.. I'm glad you know it's crap too. :D) people find it hard to believe that I've got a hearing impairment, because I have such good speech... I tell 'em.. "I went to the Atlanta Speech School from age 2 until 5. That's why I talk like I'm 'normal'." some people still have a bit of disbelief, but then I show 'em my hearing aid and that usually shuts 'em up.. and that's just with other hearing people.. I've felt like I can't fit in either world--hearing or deaf--because I talk like I'm normal (ya know--not hearing impaired.. lol) and then I turn around and, having missed half of the convo, say something ridiculous.. and people who don't realize--or remember--that I'm hearing impaired give me weird looks. (I got made fun of brutally in middle school because of this. it's just nice to know--now--who's living the better life here--me, or them? me, of course! :D) I also tended to be shunned from the deaf world because I have something they don't--1/2 of AN EAR plus good speech, so I spent most of my pre-college life feeling very trapped in the middle.. different situation, but nonetheless similar woes, I guess.. would you think so? Daniel said to me of my niece: "Cyndi: Now you have to named the girl with a name that can be turned into some sort of a Tori Related nickname . i.e: Anastacia, Tori, Tash, Beene, etc :)" I think Tori'd be a fantastic name, but my sister has already named her Bailey Anne.. maybe it could wind up being a nick for Beene.. but the one she's gonna get the most from me is "Bam" or "Bam-Bam".. *evil laugh* she is SO NOT getting away with that! rofl Daniel said: "...So I am much better on my own, rather than with someone who is a piece of cr*p and claims to be your best friend. It is all very UTP, the betrayal among men, I guess this time!" (Hope that therapist is working for you, btw..) the one thing I don't like--anymore (I did this myself because I hate picking favorites)--is meeting someone on day one.. chatting all the time on day two.. and being proclaimed as their best friend by day three. honestly, it takes more than three days to be BEST FRIENDS with somebody.. good friends, maybe, but best friends, no.. I say it'd take about three or four years of knowing someone and being good friends with them before calling them your "best friend". Linda said: "Congratulations on becoming an aunt, Cyndi!! :-) :-) :-)" thaaaaaank you! it's fun! I love it.. my mom and my dad and I get to help out with taking care of her--a LOT.. that's why we're here anyway! lol Linda then said: "And, Tori would totally kick ass on a huge cathedral organ. Damn, I'm sure if there's a heaven, that's the kind of music that they play at the gates." Tori tearing away on the organs.. maybe playing Hey Jupiter or Happy Phantom or Father Lucifer.. or Northern Lad.. orrrrr Crucify.. now THAT'D be interesting! :D Megan also congratsed me on my aunt-hood: "Congraduations, Cyndi! You're an auntie! You must lavish the child with constructive criticism and tell her many cow jokes! Yay!" you're gonna have to help me with that. the only one I can think of is "birdie birdie in the sky, why'd you do that in my eye? I'm a big girl, I won't cry, but I'm sure glad that cows don't fly!" lol.. love your poem, btw.. wow.. love the imagery in it.. Welcome back to the list, Adam! :) Adam said: "Not sure if anyone still even reads this list anymore, but I just re-subbed." of COURSE people still read this list! :D it's Tori, for pete's sake! lol.. how are ya? :) btw.. Warcraft 3.. EXCELLENT GAME. my brother has it.. I watched him play it.. I loved it.. :D Adam then said: "Hope I didn't bore you guys. I'll talk more later if you like :-)" keep talking! :D we all love ya! welcome back, btw.. you don't know me (BUT that's because I joined in the late winter/early spring of 2002..) okayyyyyy now to send this off and start work on the next digest.. wahoo!! :P btw.. Tash.. bday.. YAY!!!!!!!! :) Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/368/ciara_blaze.html -- http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ -- http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ -- http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ -- http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=kittitude Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do. Not. Describe. Myself." ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 15:32:12 -0400 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: woofiness. okay.. it says at the top of every RDTRN post.. "do THIS if you wanna unsub"... erm.. vacations and mail address changing aside.. could you re-subbers PLEASE let me know.. just why ANYBODY would wanna unsub?? o_O Bethany said: "Avril Lavigne just cracks me up to no end. this little girl pretending to be punk when she wasn't even alive when punk was big. plus Sk8ter Boi. 2 good 2 b 4 gotten." hey now, be kind to the poseurs! rofl.. I was born in '81 so I don't think I was even alive when punk was big either--unless you're talking about the re-emerging of punk a-la Green Day in '94.. lol.. anyway, point is.. sometimes I get pangs of "I wanna be a punk TOO!" so.. *shrug* at least SHE'S doing it.. o_O Bethany then said: "but then, little 9 and 10 year olds are coming into Borders and asking for it. i'd rather have them listen to her than Britney." hell yeah. I dunno if I said it in here before, but my friend and I both agree that Tori is 100% a much better role model than Britney or any of the other teen-bop girl and boy groups. :P welcome back to the list, littlebluegirl! :) lbg (can I call you lbg? lol..) then said: "now im one of those working girrls.. living outside of Philly (wouldnt have it any other way) and doing the whole 9-5 thing.. grr. Consuming lots of coffee, and smoking many more cigarettes than before, but hey im in love and its ok :)" rofl.. I like how you said that.. when you're in love.. everything else doesn't matter. :D Winterlion said: "I just found out today Dick Chaney (issat right)? is vice-pres of US. This is what I get for being in another country - I thought he was a newsy of some kind. *grin*" Dick Cheney is, indeed, vice prez.. and he got to be president for a few hours while Bush went under sedation to get checked for colon cancer.. Winterlion then said: "Canadian Senate wants legalization of marijuana - basis is "war on drugs has been out and out lost - at least in this case". This could be interesting. I personally consider the stuff just slightly less dangerous than either alcohol or cigarettes... both of which are controlled substances in Canada." dude!! that is so kewl! lol.. you can't overdose on weed either.. you'll fall asleep first, did ya know? (I know this stuff because I like to learn stuff. :D) Lavs basically thanked me for supplying her with a fonts webpage.. and then said: "Must go check out BamBam... if I can tear myself away from font sites!" take your time. I'm not gonna blog for a while.. :D I want EVERYBODY to see little Bailey. She's so cuuuuute! lol Victoria said in reply to my bit about the beginning of Icicle sounding like "pace around the waiting room and worry" movie music: "Sorry if someone has already pointed this out, but I seem to recall that when Under the Pink was released, Tori said that the beginning of 'Icicle' was based on 'Onward Christian Soldiers'. Or was I hallucinating? Possibly both." I think it has to do with that one time she talked about how there was the church music.. and then there was Led Zep.. and she played a bit of Onward Christian Soldiers etc.. and then talked about Zep some more and about how she started exploring..told a friend, friend told her dad.. dad went into his "I'm soooo ashamed, I'm SO ashamed" business.. and how she said she replied with "ahh, ahh!" like Robert Plant did.. rofl.. and then she sang Icicle.. perhaps that has to do with it? rofl.. it's 3:30 and I still haven't gotten dressed.. o_O so.. LATER!! :) Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/368/ciara_blaze.html -- http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ -- http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ -- http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ -- http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=kittitude Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do. Not. Describe. 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