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RDT Right Now #1713

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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to: <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the subject and body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 02 : Issue #1713 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o tori concert tickets - help! [ burning leaves <jewella_deville@jun ] birthdays and Sister Janet MIDI's an [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ] scarlet's walk ecard [ guapo stick <woj@smoe.org> ] tour press release [ guapo stick <woj@smoe.org> ] Transfer me a botox shot on a body l [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ] tour press coverage [ guapo stick <woj@smoe.org> ] Yet more from Neil [ Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.de ] Re: tour press coverage [ guapo stick <woj@smoe.org> ] tampa bay sale date [ guapo stick <woj@smoe.org> ] boink! [ "Madame Ade" <alexandriasisp@hotmai ] Yesterday and Today [ "Julie H." <julieh214@hotmail.com> ] fucktards [ Succubus Megan <Abulia@imaterrorist ] a quickie [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ] [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] Making up a missed day... On September 14th in 1992, members discuss Tori and the MTV awards. In 1994, Tori ASCII art, interps on a multitude of songs, Tori as a goddess (and Tori and pentagrams), and an Internet interview is posted. In 1995, the first digest in over a month is sent out (with all of two messages). It is kicked off with a comment from Chris: "Lets see how much damage this does". In 1996, an article titled "healing through song" is posted. About "Somewhere Over the Rainbow": "I'm questioning that whole sentiment, the idea that the dreams you dare to dream really do come true. They might come true, but you might have some scars and wounds you take with you that they don't tell you. The rainbow isn't attained without chasing your demons and your pain," says Amos. In 2000, hair. [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] On September 17th in 1992, members were talking about future tour dates. In 1993, Neil Gaiman. In 1994, a member offers their original YKTR vinyl for $75. In 1996, cat names, some Tori/Patti Smith connections, responses to the physical beauty of actresses question, and gender politics. In 1998, dreams, why are people dissing that Tori presented a rap award?, names for a piano, and Francesa Lia Block. In 2001, more reactions to Sept. 11. [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] On September 18th in 1994, it's an interp-a-thon, and a transcript of Tori's Prodigy chat. Tori's response to a question about being called a super-feminist: I don't think it's about choosing a camp anymore..that's so...1976. But there are two camps-- I'm going to be responsible for myself, or I'm not going to be responsible for myself. No gender, no sex. It's like we're not victims; get off the cross we need the wood. I ll tell you, I see a lot more guys right now who are shaking in their boots. It's kind of tragic, because I don't know if anybody's making a whole lot of sense to the guys right how. The girls get mad at them because they don't know how to be tender and independent at the same time.....there's confusion in that camp. It's not about them controlling us, they don't know how to control themselves. In 1995, people relieved the list is back (it had a meltdown for a while), and what happened to the list shirts? In 1998, havannas are cigars, and strippers. In 1999, reactions to TVAB, and meet and greets. [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] On September 19th in 1994, the Sweet Dreams appreciation society, more information about the Hans Christian Anderson version of "the Little Mermaid", and continuing the interp-a-thon. In 1995, the list t-shirts. In 1996, a member ponders what Tori songs would go with what Star Wars character. In 1998, feminism and stripping, reviews, Pretty Hate Machine, rap, and a parody of Jackie's Strength about Hillary Clinton. A sample: a rodham till inauguration day sluts ran out the police came said bubba laid them on the front lawn i prey for hillie's strength In 1999, meet & greets, beauty pagents, and hurricane Floyd. In 2000, ballads. In 2001, more reactions to the SLG album, and a discussion about different ways people have of dealing with grief. [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] On September 20th in 1993, members discuss Neil Gaiman, Kate Bush, Tori doing Halloween songs would be cool, is it 'wobble' or 'wopple' board, some members comment that they'd prefer Tori to do more of her own songs and not another cover, a member mentions Tori's co-writing credit on Al Stewarts' "Charlotte Corday", and an article about George Porter, Jr. (Subject: Tori Stuff). On his work with Tori: "She's got a different approach to recording," Porter said. "It's interesting; she doesn't like recording with other musicians because that way they'll influence what she plays. She does all the piano and vocals by herself first; then we overdub." In 1994, an article is posted about bootlegs and terrorism (mentioning Tori), a member reports that there is a Tori article in The Face (no. 73, Oct 94) magazine, and more interps of the mermaid reference (among other things). In 1998, reviews, Raspberry Swirl (video and the 'love song for friend' angle), and ripping misguided articles to shreds. In 2001, discussion continues on the potential aftermath of the Sept 11 attacks, and more comments on the SLG album. To read more about these items, visit the list archives. [ ================================================================== ] Today's fuzzy ferret assistant: Lavenda Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 01:49:50 -0700 From: burning leaves <jewella_deville@juno.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: tori concert tickets - help! woj was kind enough to post tour dates! >11-Dec Portland, OR Childes Center ahhh! i must go! but, as i noticed cindi also mentioned, i need advice! i have never been to a tori concert. before, when i've tried to get tickets, they have been sold out right away. what's the trick? what can give me a better chance of getting good seats? can anyone help? thank you SO much for any help you can give. love like peachfuzz, jewel. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 05:27:48 -0400 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: birthdays and Sister Janet MIDI's and lotsa funny smelling stuff. let's kick this one off with a happy belated birthday to Doug S. :D happy birthday Doug! :) okay. I'm behind two digests. AGAIN. slap me. okay. on with the replieeeeeeees... at FIVE IN THE BLOODY MORNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and I've got this.. Sister Janet MIDI.. very kewl stufffff.. very very very. me like, me like, me likey likey. anyway.. *cuts and pastes #1711 and #1712 back to back.. and nods head side to side to this doggoned MIDI of Sister Janet.. dum da da dummmm.. da da da dum da da dummmmm..* Okay the retro for the 15th quoted a Tori interview.. "Tori: I just lean on key ... I didn't know it was on. Maybe I should have a baby on a keyboard. I'm the most comfortable when I'm like leaning on a keyboard." makes me wonder if Tori had a little toy tag-along keyboard of sorts when she was at the hospital having Tash.. makes ya think, huh? o_O The retro then said: "In 1993, continued discussion about suggested songs for Tori to cover." hey can we revive that??? :D pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase???? :D The retro then mentioned Tori's appearance on the '98 VMAs.. and that reminded me.. a good five months ago I was beating myself upside the head trying to remember if that was, indeed, her, that I'd seen.. then I went to thedent.com and found pics.. very funny stuff indeed! sure wish I'd taped that! :P then the retro mentioned body hair.. um.. speaking of body hair.. what in the world is the point of pubic hair??? Brian's still on an Eminem kick.. like he said.. :D I was at www.launch.com watching music videos on there.. and I saw the video for his song "White America".. doesn't show HIM doing anything (basically looked like a lot of toons and paper doll drawings and stuff.. you have to see it to get what I mean--lots of puppetry instead of him really being in it).. but anyway.. it's.. wow. actually almost very disturbing.. o_O you really have to see it to know what I mean. Brian said in reply to one of the Beths' question about plastic surgery: "I might comment if I had a clue which bit you're referring to, but otherwise I haven't noticed anything." um. I'm thinking she's looking at Tori's face and wondering, dear. ;) our favorite succubus Barbie said: "StalkerBoy has a girlfriend that he never mentioned while flirting with me. ...Gee, I wonder why?" cuz he's either about to break up with her, or he's a wandering type! :P loved your poem there btw. :) Woj, as always, THANK YOU for the Tori news! what would we do without ya? I'd hate to find out! lol.. Winterlion enjoyed my little Tori songs poem thingy.. thanks! :D Julie said: "Geez, I'm so obsessive and cumpulsive...lol" aren't we all? :D seriously. I sort my gobstoppers by color and if there's something that I'm eating that is of the same color, I eat them in pairs of two. I'm a FREAK. :D John said: "Patti Smith obviously makes *no* effort to hide her age, and that only adds to her appeal and her power." true, true.. however, some women (hopefully not Tori) just don't think they can age gracefully, so you know what they do? they slam a wad of bills on the doctor's desk and say "FIX ME UP!" and.. well.. I don't like the idea of that, personally.. that the world is so superficial that women AND MEN are feeling constant pressure to have to keep tuning themselves up and trying to stay young looking.. blah. superficiality sucksssssssssssssss the big one. :P Julie asked: "Hey, are you Cyndi Crawford, the model? lol" no.. I was about 5 when the model got famous.. I'm the REAL Cyndi Crawford tho. ;) nothin' on THIS body is airbrushed or tucked or nipped or any of that! :D hell yeah! Jess said: "...besides, botulism is the greatest word in the english language." yeah.. it just.. bounces out of the mouth so nicely! I like it too. lol.. Chris said: "Anyway...Caught a light sneeze has the towers in it. A faint, distant shot of manhattan...or am I drunk again?" *SMACKS HEAD!!!* I *KNEW* IT! I KNEW THAT WAS WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT!! I HAD THE VERY SHOT OF THAT EXACTLY IN MY HEAD! ARGH! okay.. caps off.. *falls over*.. Megan, love your Descartes poem.. very interesting.. lol.. hey if we ate people.. would men's penises replace the almighty hot dog? o_O and would their testicles replace the everlasting meatball?? *grin* rofl.. okay.. on that sick and twisted note, it's off to bed I go.. erm.. after listening to this Sister Janet MIDI a couple more times.. :D Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/368/ciara_blaze.html -- http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ -- http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ -- http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ -- http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=kittitude Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do. Not. Describe. Myself." ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 08:48:37 -0700 From: guapo stick <woj@smoe.org> To: torinews@smoe.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>, rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: scarlet's walk ecard http://www.toriamos.com is now offering a scarlet's walk ecard for download for either windows or the mac. the ecard shows more of what looks to be the video for the song and scrolls the text of the neil gaiman's description of the album: The CD's about America -- it's a story that's also a journey, that begins in LA and crosses the country, slowly heading east. America's in there, and specific places and things, Native American history and pornography and a girl on a plane who'll never get to New York, and Oliver Stone and Andrew Jackson and madness and a lot more. Not to mention a girl called Scarlet who may be the land and may be a person and may be a trail of blood. woj -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 10:08:21 -0700 From: guapo stick <woj@smoe.org> To: torinews@smoe.org, ustour@torithoughts.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>, rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: tour press release <url: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/020918/nyw052_1.html > Scarlet's Walk Hits The Road Tori Tour to Highlight Epic Debut Wednesday September 18, 9:30 am ET NEW YORK, Sept. 18 /PRNewswire/ -- Beginning November 7th, Tori Amos, one of the most acclaimed and influential artists of the last decade, will embark On Scarlet's Walk, the headlining tour in support of her Epic Record's debut, Scarlet's Walk, which will be in stores on October 29th. Featured on the tour will be long-time collaborators Jon Evans on bass and Matt Chamberlain on drums and percussion. The album, Scarlet's Walk, is a journey in itself, a sonic novel in which each song represents a specific stop on the way across America. The central figure on the album is Scarlet, a woman who criss crosses the country in search of answers, in search of herself. On Scarlet's Walk, Tori will bring the role of Scarlet to life. Supporting Amos throughout the tour will be singer-songwriter Howie Day, who's debut album, Australia, was re-released by Epic Records on June 10, 2002. Following are the tour dates: November 11/7 Tampa, FL Tampa Bay Performing Arts Center 11/9 Melbourne, FL Maxwell C. King Center For Performing Arts 11/10 Atlanta, GA Atlanta Civic Center Theatre 11/12 Fairfax, VA Patriot Center 11/13 New York, NY Venue TBA 11/15 Camden, NJ Tweeter Waterfront 11/16 Wallingford, CT Oakdale Theatre 11/17 Providence, RI Providence Performing Arts Center 11/19 Lowell, MA Tsongas Arena 11/20 Montreal, Quebec Molson Centre 11/22 Toronto, Ontario Sears Theatre at the Air Canada Centre 11/23 Columbus, OH Palace Theatre 11/24 Auburn Hills, MI The Palace of Auburn 11/26 Cleveland, OH State Theatre 11/27 Chicago, IL Chicago Theatre 11/30 Minneapolis, MN Northrop Auditorium December 12/1 Milwaukee, WI Milwaukee Riverside Theatre 12/3 St. Louis, MO Fox Theater 12/5 Denver, CO Magness Arena 12/7 Salt Lake City, UT Ford Theater 12/9 Vancouver, BC Queen Elizabeth Theatre 12/10 Seattle, WA Key Arena 12/11 Portland, OR Childes Center 12/13 La Jolla, CA RIMAC Arena 12/14 Las Vegas, NV The Joint 12/16 Tempe, AZ Gammage Auditorium 12/17 Los Angeles, CA Universal Ampitheatre 12/21 San Francisco, CA Bill Graham Civic Auditorium Scarlet's Walk was self-produced and recorded in Cornwall, England (at the same studio as several of her most recent releases). The record's first single, "A Sorta Fairytale," has recently been released to radio. Fans may also preview the track and sign up for Tori's official mailing list at http://www.toriamos.com . For more information on Howie Day, visit his website: http://www.howieday.com . -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 15:47:53 -0400 From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Transfer me a botox shot on a body language dictionary Cyndi Supermodel asked: >>do you ever take transfer paper and print up a picture of Tori (maybe with added text and whatnot) and then iron it to a shirt for a concert etc?? << I did this twice. I took the 94 Spin cover (Tori with lots of red lip-gloss and little else) and had it made into matching shirts for my best friend and I for Christmas (back in the days when only transfer shops could afford the scanner technology to make iron-on's). The very next year, I had Tori's ad for the NYC Concert for RAINN scanned onto a couple of t-shirts and made a present of that and tickets to the concert (third row from the back wall, center nosebleed section) to my friend and we wore them to the concert. I still have both shirts, tho' obviously old and worn, they still bring back great memories. So go for it, especially since it's so easy nowadays. Oh, and for my 35th birthday ('96) my friend captured all sorts of internet Tori images (like the Dent logo) and made a collage on a shirt for me. I still have and wear that also. Jess said: >>beth, she didn't endorse using botox it sounds like. she just said "don't dis it." i can say don't dis on crackwhores but that doesn't mean i am one.<< Did you read the transcript or did you see the show? On the show, the body language is clear that she has. Later on, near the end, the botox mention is again characterized by body language that says she does use it. Several friends and I watched it and all agree that she meant she used it. Body language says so much more than words ever will. If you did see it, watch it again and I'm sure that you will agree. One of my photos made page 3 of the local, weekly paper. It's quite large (3 columns) and pretty much the way I cropped and sent it to the paper. Kinda neat seeing my byline on something that is not written (although they used my caption as I wrote it). I have so many newspaper clippings at this point, I need a separate scrapbook for them all. Letters to the editor, feature articles (like one on a class I taught), a Philly feature on Toriphiles, and now pictures (it's the second of my pics printed, but the first with my credit). If only I could figure out a way to get paid for publishing, I'd have it made. *sigh* I've been really sick this week, a mild case of shingles. I hear it can be a lot worse, but it's bad enough thank you. I even have blisters under my eyelids, and my skin is so sensitive, the pressure of the keyboard feels like little needles sticking in my arms and fingers. I guess my stress level has been more than I thought. I'm gonna go. Fairy Blessings, Bethey I'm OK when Everything's not OK cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say And I have always been a Fairy. www.bethcoulter.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 20:33:50 -0400 From: guapo stick <woj@smoe.org> To: torinews@smoe.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>, rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: tour press coverage nothing news, but for the record... <url: http://www.billboard.com/billboard/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1698 942 > Tori Amos Plans North American 'Walk' Tori Amos will support her upcoming Epic Records debut, "Scarlet's Walk" with a North American tour kicking off Nov. 7 in Tampa, Fla. Unlike Amos' last trek, which found her returning to solo piano/keyboard performance, she'll be joined on the 28-date run by longtime collaborators Jon Evans (bass) and Matt Chamberlain (drums/percussion). Singer/songwriter Howie Day, an Epic labelmate, will open all of the shows. The tour will last until nearly the end of the year, closing with a Dec. 21 performance at San Francisco's Bill Graham Civic Auditorium. At deadline, ticket sale information was available for only one date on the tour, a Nov. 17 visit to Providence, R.I.'s Performing Arts Center. That show will go on sale Sept. 28 via Ticketmaster. As previously reported, "Scarlet's Walk" is due Oct. 29, and is led by the single "A Sorta Fairytale." Amos' official Web site has a link to an Epic/SoapCity.com sweepstakes where fans can listen to the track while entering to win a copy of the album, a signed photo of Amos, and a Sony CD Walkman. A commercial seven-inch vinyl single is scheduled for an Oct. 8 release. Described as "a sonic novel in which each song represents a specific stop on the way across America," the album centers around the female character Scarlet who travels the country "in search of answers, in search of herself." The album was produced by Amos and recorded in Cornwall, England. The enhanced disc will feature a CD-ROM element that will allow users to access "Scarlet's Web," an exclusive section of Amos' Web site that will offer additional songs, live footage from her tour, and behind-the-scenes video content. And while the current contents of toriamos.com feature only news, a message board, and mailing list sign-up, a newly designed feature-filled site is due to launch early next month. "Scarlet's Walk" is the follow-up to Amos' final Atlantic album, "Strange Little Girls," which debuted at No. 4 on The Billboard 200 and No. 3 on Billboard's Top Internet Albums chart. The album -- which featured interpretations of songs by Lou Reed, Depeche Mode, Eminem, and others -- has sold 361,000 copies in the U.S., according to Nielsen SoundScan. Here are Tori Amos' tour dates: Nov. 7: Tampa, Fla. (Tampa Bay Performing Arts Center) Nov. 9: Melbourne, Fla. (Maxwell C. King Center for Performing Arts) Nov. 10: Atlanta (Atlanta Civic Center Theatre) Nov. 12: Fairfax, Va. (Patriot Center) Nov. 13: New York (venue TBA) Nov. 15: Camden, N.J. (Tweeter Waterfront) Nov. 16: Wallingford, Conn. (Oakdale Theatre) Nov. 17: Providence, R.I. (Providence Performing Arts Center) Nov. 19: Lowell, Mass. (Tsongas Arena) Nov. 20: Montreal (Molson Centre) Nov. 22: Toronto (Sears Theatre at the Air Canada Centre) Nov. 23: Columbus, Ohio (Palace Theatre) Nov. 24: Auburn Hills, Mich. (the Palace of Auburn Hills) Nov. 26: Cleveland (State Theatre) Nov. 27: Chicago (Chicago Theatre) Nov. 30: Minneapolis, Minn. (Northrop Auditorium) Dec. 1: Milwaukee (Riverside Theatre) Dec. 3: St. Louis, Mo. (Fox Theater) Dec. 5: Denver (Magness Arena) Dec. 7: Salt Lake City (Ford Theater) Dec. 9: Vancouver (Queen Elizabeth Theatre) Dec. 10: Seattle (Key Arena) Dec. 11: Portland, Ore. (Childes Center) Dec. 13: La Jolla, Calif. (RIMAC Arena) Dec. 14: Las Vegas (the Joint) Dec. 16: Tempe, Ariz. (Gammage Auditorium) Dec. 17: Los Angeles (Universal Amphitheatre) Dec. 21: San Francisco (Bill Graham Civic Auditorium) -- Barry A. Jeckell, N.Y. _______________________________________________________________________ <url: http://cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/pagename=/RP/ALLSTAR/article.html/fid=339219 > Tori Amos Kicks Off Scarlet's Walk Tour Nov. 7 Sep 18, 2002, 11:00 am PT Tori Amos will be taking it to the streets on Nov. 7 for her North American headlining tour in support of her forthcoming Scarlet's Walk, due Oct. 29. Amos has tapped one of her Epic Records labelmates, singer-songwriter Howie Day, to open the show. Tori Amos tour dates: Nov. 7, Tampa, Fla., Tampa Bay Performing Arts Center Nov. 9, Melbourne, Fla., Maxwell C. King Center For Performing Arts Nov. 10, Atlanta, Atlanta Civic Center Theatre Nov. 12, Fairfax, Va. Patriot Center Nov. 13, New York, N.Y., TBA Nov. 15, Camden, N.J., Tweeter Waterfront Nov. 16, Wallingford, Conn., Oakdale Theatre Nov. 17, Providence, R.I., Providence Performing Arts Center Nov. 19, Lowell, Mass., Tsongas Arena Nov. 20, Montreal, Molson Centre Nov. 22, Toronto, Sears Theatre at the Air Canada Centre Nov. 23, Columbus, Ohio, Palace Theatre Nov. 24, Auburn Hills, Mich., The Palace of Auburn Nov. 26, Cleveland, State Theatre Nov. 27, Chicago, Chicago Theatre Nov. 30, Minneapolis, Northrop Auditorium Dec. 1, Milwaukee, Milwaukee Riverside Theatre Dec. 3, St. Louis, Fox Theater Dec. 5, Denver, Magness Arena Dec. 7, Salt Lake City, Ford Theater Dec. 9, Vancouver, B.C., Queen Elizabeth Theatre Dec. 10, Seattle, Key Arena Dec. 11, Portland, Ore., Childes Center Dec. 13, La Jolla, Calif., RIMAC Arena Dec. 14, Las Vegas, The Joint Dec. 16, Tempe, Ariz., Gammage Auditorium Dec. 17, Los Angeles, Universal Ampitheatre Dec. 21, San Francisco, Bill Graham Civic Auditorium -- Carrie Borzillo-Vrenna -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 17:49:12 -0700 From: Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.devin.com> To: torinews@smoe.org, precious-things@smoe.org, rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Yet more from Neil I guess Tori said it's okay for him to talk about the album now. :) Tuesday, September 17, 2002 'Got my sealed-up CD player with Scarlett's Walk on it yesterday. Looks like the Martian boys used a combination of glue and some kind of super-hot something or other to make it the single most effectively sealed CD player there has ever been. Great pair of headphones though. Various e-mails from people have arrived pointing out that I could dismantle the headphones and run the wires into a computer or something, leaving me shaking my head and going "but why would I want to do that?" 'Got home very late from LA last night, and sat in the small hours of the morning, listening to it three or four times over. It's wonderful hearing tracks I've not heard except in rough form months ago -- Don't Make Me Come to Vegas and Virginia. Vegas has immediately become my New Favourite Track. 'There's a strangeness to it in places, as the versions on the previous CD I have are pre-strings, so I'm used to Gold Dust as a really sparse, empty song, just piano and voice, and the strings keep surprising me. I wonder if it's like that for people who read early drafts of my stuff.' Beth -- "This country has a deep fear and mistrust of strong, smart, accomplished, outspoken women unless they are sexy 22-year-olds killing vampires on television." -- Dennis Miller _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._ music reviews + stories + poetry + photography + collage + Watchers livejournal + selkies + esoterica + links = http://echoes.devin.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 21:18:29 -0400 From: guapo stick <woj@smoe.org> To: torinews@smoe.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>, rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Re: tour press coverage when we last left our heroes, guapo stick exclaimed: >nothing news, but for the record... uh, i take that back. actually, there are two bits of news in the billboard article after all, as lily pointed out. i need to learn to skim'n'scan better -- yeesh. >A commercial seven-inch vinyl single is scheduled for an Oct. 8 release. that's pretty damn interesting. >The enhanced disc will feature a CD-ROM element that will allow users to >access "Scarlet's Web," an exclusive section of Amos' Web site that will >offer additional songs, live footage from her tour, and behind-the-scenes >video content. this is also news -- we knew that there would be some exclusive video on scarlet's web, but we didn't know what that would entail. woj -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 22:12:40 -0400 From: guapo stick <woj@smoe.org> To: ustour@torithoughts.org, torinews@smoe.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>, rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: tampa bay sale date according to the tampa bay performing arts center's website <url: http://www.tbpac.org/shows/tori_amos/tori_amos.html >, tickets for that show go on sale on september 28th at noon. woj -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 02:21:50 +0000 From: "Madame Ade" <alexandriasisp@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: boink! hi all! last night in my writing group i met another toriphile (i was wearing my "strange little toriphile" shirt and a girl asked about it and said "i LOVE tori!"). yay! meeting other tori lovers just makes me so happy... which is why i love this list, of course! and y'all are a bunch of crazy, wonderful, loveable weirdos! heeeeee! anywho... replies... cyndi talked about plastic surgery due to a doggie bite. my aunt had the same thing done. when she was a kid, her dog took a chunk out of her lip, so they took some skin from other areas and patched it up. i think she had some other things done, but i doubt she had any surgery for cosmetic reasons. plus, she's absolutely gorgeous (for a woman in her early 40s), so she doesn't need any. i also got bitten by a dog when i was barely 14(well, twice, the other was a nip on the arm), and it left a scar on my cheek. well, actually, i've had a scar on my cheek since i was 3 (some kid scratched me!) and the dog bit the scar so it kind of changed shape. i didn't need surgery, but the dog's owner freaked out and was incredibly nice to me. my cousin also got bitten by a big dog by her eye... i guess we conway women are prone to doggie fangs. ah well... eh... that's all i really feel compelled to reply to now... winterlion, you rock! *hugs* -ade *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* http://www.geocities.com/blupyglet http://www.livejournal.com/~agentfroot *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 21:47:48 -0500 From: "Julie H." <julieh214@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Yesterday and Today 9/18/02 9:34 pm YESTERDAY: Yesterday I didn't have school. I had an appointment with my physchiatrist though. I have OCD and that's why I go there. I take Prozac. A lot of people think I'm really mental because I take Prozac, but I'm not crazy...trust me. Anyways, I really like my new physchiatrist, that was my first meeting with my brand new one. She's really nice and cool. She's in her 30's and she's a tall blonde. Anyways, I told her a lot of my problems and some stories about my life. I think it's gonna be great seeing her. TODAY: Today in my earth science class I found out I was getting a D...that blew my mind...I had no idea I was getting such a bad grade...I thought I was gonna be the A+ student in that class since it was a pretty simple class. The thing that brought my grade down was not being there a few days (I was ill on those days). Later on today I thought about when I came back and I asked my teacher if I missed any assignments and he said, "No." So, I'm definitely gonna tell him that...see, it's not my fault! In pre-algebra this bitch that sits behind me said, "I guess Julie's not wearing her headphones today." in a really sarcastic voice...I didn't understand what that dumbass comment meant so I just turned around and minded my business. Then I put my headphones on and she said, "Ms. Janke, tell her to take her headphones off." And then I did when the teacher told me to. Why the hell would the bitch care if I had headphones on...she's just tryin' to piss me off. In my Spanish 1A class we had a new seating arrangement...that sucked, I want to continue to sit next to Jamie. Jamie wasn't even there that day. At the end of class, I went to lunch and ate by myself...inside. In study hall I went to my speech-n-language teacher's office to work on some school work-homework. She told me that the teacher's-principal is going to be handed out a school newsletter about a rape that happened 2 days ago at West High School (my high school). I was so scared when I heard that. I mean, I wasn't surprised...and I heard about it happening a while ago also, but it really scares me. I think the guy's in jail now...I hope so...I think so, I'm pretty positive. That kind of thing truly terrifies me. In beginning chef class we had a test. The teacher is really strict, she said that she would give the test a 0 if we got out of our seats during the entire hour, including giving the test to her. She said, "I'll pick it up! Don't get up and give it to me!" She's very strange. Anyways, I had to make a note to myself in my head not to get up. It's kind of natural to do that though...give her the test. Most teacher's like that. Anyways, a guy in my class got up and she yelled at him, but I don't think she gave him a 0 because I think she was just threatening to, but I don't think she did...that would be ridiculous. Later on after school I played Nintendo 64 (Zelda Ocarina Of Time) with my brother...we're really frustrated about Bongo Bongo, one of the really tough monsters-or whatever you wanna call it. I really love hanging out with my bro...he's great! I'm starting to worry if one of my best guy friends is starting to be sexually attracted to me...I don't know how I'd deal with that and I hope he was just jokin' around when he makes certain comments to me. I wanna stay FRIENDS with him forever! Nothing more, nothing less. Julie H. E-mail & MSN IM: JulieH214@hotmail.com MTV Member: JulieH214 AOL IM: JulieH0214 Yahoo! IM: Juls21487 www.petitiononline.com/JANET/petition.html ^ PLEASE SIGN THIS PETITION ^ PLEASE DONATE MONEY TO THE LISA LOPES AIDS SCHOLARSHIP at mtv.com _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 20:10:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Succubus Megan <Abulia@imaterrorist.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: fucktards Hola, Lousy ass fucktards. I hate them all. I should be a lesbian and hiss at all guys and then beat them over the head with large boards. Fuckers. Pathetic manipulative fuckers. ...Or more specifically, ONE pathetic manipulative fucker. Stalkerboy. Stalkerboy with a girlfriend he didn't bother mentioning to me. I called him and asked him about his girlfriend, Crystal, who he never mentioned to me and I only found out about from a mutual friend. The conversation was as follows: Me: Hello, Alex. An odd thing happened. I met the roommate of the girl you keep on claiming to visit, Nikki, and she says that you aren't at Slippery Rock to visit her, but your girlfriend. Crystal. Who you never mentioned to me while flirting. Alex: Um...Well...Sorry. Me: Lying isn't just saying things that aren't true. There's also lying by omission, which is what you did to me. Alex: Um...Well...Sorry. Me: If I were Crystal and my boyfriend was calling other girls 'pretty' and saying that he liked them, I'd be pretty mad right now. Alex: Um... We're having a rocky time in our relationship. Sorry. Me: I don't appreciate being lied to. I'm going to go watch Animal House right now with my roommate. Goodbye. *click* Lousy ass fucker. He sent me an email immediately afterwards apologizing even more and, since I'm the woman scorned here, I'm going to be a bitch and post it for you all to see, privacy be damned. << Begin StalkerBoy Email >> Subject: Re: Moo Moo (Translation: I'm sorry) I could end this at the subject line, but I have more to say. I'm sorry about not telling you about Crystal. I don't know, I guess I was scared when we met that if I told you then you wouldn't want to talk to me or something. Anyway, I'm really, really sorry and I don't want you to hate me, because that would tend to really suck. I hope we can still be friends. Alex << End Email >> It took me two days of procrastination before I replied with the following. Once again with the words "privacy", "be", and "damned". I don't fucking care how many netiquette rules I'm breaking. Bite me. Asswipes. All the world is made of up asswipes who get off on lying to the naive and trusting. Mutherfuckers. I hate and loathe all players. And myself. Because I'm a pussy who lets them play me like a chessboard. Fuckers. Anyway, on with my reply. << Begin Reply Email >> Alex, That's a poor excuse. Why would anyone not want to talk to someone if they have a girlfriend? I don't judge people on their relationship status. I know of no one who does. But whatever. Just don't lie to me again. I have this strange tendency to trust people, which often gets me into unfortunate situations. It's quite sad. And then I feel naive and stupid for assuming the best in people when I could have so easily been skeptical and disbelieving and kept myself from getting into the unfortunate situation in the first place. It's a choice between being naive and believing lies vs. being skeptical and never trusting anyone. And right now I'm partial to the first choice, though as days go by I'm rapidly slipping towards the second. Sucks ass, doesn't it, that some people take advantage of the fact that I like to trust people. I like to believe that people are being honest with me. And I hate it when my beliefs are proved to be incorrect. In essence, do not lie to me again in any way and avoid flirting while you have a girlfriend, rocky relationship or not. If I were Crystal right now I'd so be going for the throat. Be honest. That way we can still be friends and act dumb together. Lie to me again, however, and I have no idea what I'll do, besides become hard ass bitch and end up having severe trust issues with guys. I'm trying to avoid that. So don't play me and don't fuck with my emotions. That's my condition. Honesty is an extremely important thing, but so is the ability to understand that people fuck up sometimes. I try my best to practice both virtues. And so should you. Megan << End Reply Email >> So I need to ask you all a very important question, and I want you to be honest with me now and spare not my already mutilated feelings: Am I being a pussy? Be honest now. Am I being a pussy for offering to forgive him in that email? Am I just opening myself up for my emotional mutilation? Should I just go find a nice hard board and beat him over the head with it? Because that's sounding real nice right about now. Fucktards. All the world is made of fucktards. Someone please castrate them so I can recognize them by their high-pitched voices and run quickly away. I hate everybody. Except chicks and gay guys. And even those people are self-centered assholes, too, looking to get the most for themselves, despite how badly they trample over the meek and pussyish. God I hate the world. I'm such a pussy. Either donate me a spine or shoot me in the head. I can't believe I forgave him. How Now, Brown Cow? Megan Christine Auffart *************************************** I never saw a Purple Cow, I never hope to see one; But I can tell you anyhow, I'd rather see than be one! --- Gelett Burgess (1866-1951) *************************************** http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/abulia/ _____________________________________________________________ Sign up for FREE insane email from tshirthell.com's E-Mail Hell at http://www.tshirthell.com _____________________________________________________________ Promote your group and strengthen ties to your members with email@yourgroup.org by Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net/?btn=tag -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 00:50:58 -0400 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: a quickie I want to make this more than just a bday wish email cuz I know that's hard on Violet.. but.. firstly. happy birthday Sabrena! Tour dates coming up galore! Simon, you and I talked and I showed you the url.. um.. well, talk on the Precious Things list is happening regarding "NO TEXAS!???" and people are replying, reassuring the TX fans that the list couldn't POSSIBLY be complete, so.. *crosses fingers* keep hope alive! there we go. :) now it's off to bed I must go cuz my damn jaw is killing me. :P Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/368/ciara_blaze.html -- http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ -- http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ -- http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ -- http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=kittitude Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do. Not. Describe. Myself." ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! 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