RDT Right Now #1727

From: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 20:48:23 -0700
Subject: RDT Right Now #1727
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Really Deep Thoughts Right Now			Volume 02 : Issue #1727

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                                         Tori Amos, "Thoughts"
In this issue:
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  single clips                          [ dances with virgos <woj@smoe.org> ]
  q review                              [ dances with virgos <woj@smoe.org> ]
  shes goin to the sun                  [ "Victoria McCabe" <victoria@muruch. ]
  scarlet's walk rolling stone review   [ dances with virgos <woj@smoe.org> ]
  advice needed so badly, por favor     [ "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlif ]
  Five Women Ticket Info                [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ]
  scarlet's walk review from nyrock.co  [ dances with virgos <woj@smoe.org> ]
  ERR! GOING CRAZY!                     [ "Julie H." <julieh214@hotmail.com> ]
  big pig, little pig                   [ "Madame Ade" <alexandriasisp@hotmai ]
  ack                                   [ "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlif ]
  Re: cyber sex                         [ "Julie H." <julieh214@hotmail.com> ]
  got a question..                      [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ]
  Partipipual parts                     [ Brad Shultz <springhaze@comcast.net ]



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Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 10:32:07 -0400
From: dances with virgos <woj@smoe.org>
To: torinews@smoe.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>,
        rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: single clips

sony uk is hosting 30 second clips of the 101 mix of "a sorta fairytale"
and "operation peter pan" at:

http://www.sonymusic.co.uk/uk/disc.php?id=1000817&lang=eng&cat=673043

wooo!

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Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 10:36:57 -0400
From: dances with virgos <woj@smoe.org>
To: torinews@smoe.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>,
        rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: q review

gleaned this from the atforumz <url:
http://www.atforumz.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=155985 >. it's not up on
the q magazine site <url: http://www.q4music.com/ > yet...

 From Q Magazine, November 2002

3/5 [stars]

Never one to do things by half, here the flame haired one takes a
metaphorical wander round America - and hey, by extension, herself - in the
company of the titular Scarlet, creating an 18-strong song cycle into the
bargain. As ever, God, sex, betrayal and redemption loom large, and with
lines such as "a dash of truth spread thin like a flag on a popstar on a
bendoiazepane" she's still operating at the end of the twig. Yet
ear-snagging lyrics are only half the story. And with her piano totally
dominant and none of the gothic flourishes of, say, From the Choirgirl
Hotel, the music here only rarely matches up. Or maybe it's her party
tricks wearing just a little thin.

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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 13:22:49 -0700 (MST)
From: "Victoria McCabe" <victoria@muruch.net>
To: circusworld@yahoogroups.com
Cc: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: shes goin to the sun

Drugs are good, mmmkay?

As some of you may recall, I started taking an antidepressant (Effexor XR)
in August. It took a long time for it to take effect. And when it finally
did, the changes were so subtle that I hadn't really noticed. But it's
working.

No, I'm not all shiny happy. Thankfully :p But I've gone from being a
psycho emotional wreck controlled by anxiety and depression to just being
my normal psycho self. At least most of the time.

I don't think it's the meds alone. Our vacation in Florida helped give me
a  boost. Both for the fact that it was the first whole week since 1999
that I  was able to relax and have fun without worry. And for the fact that
being  together that week has helped the relationship I have with my
mother. The  religion is still an issue, it always will be. I still have
panic attacks  when I think of going to their meetings. But my mom is being
more  understanding and not pushing me so much.

And the good thing is that the bad episodes only happen now in connection
with the religion now. I guess I was hoping for a complete cure and that's
why I didn't think the meds were helping. But in a way, this is good.
Because it's not changing my personality. I still get bitchy and sad and
all that. But whereas before when I was like that, it would last all day
or  sometimes several days, now I can pull myself out of it before I drop
down  into complete darkness. And generally I just feel more stable, more
like  myself than I have in years. I still feel like I have the capability
to  push myself over that edge if I really wanted to. But I no longer want
to.  Been there, done that or something.

In the past week I've had three instances that should have sent me
spiralling into panic and depression. But they didn't. Today for example,
I  lost my wallet. My entire wallet. My ID, social security card, debit
card,  credit cards...everything. I retraced my steps and searched my car
and even  went to Brendan's work to see if he'd found it. But it's gone. A
month ago  I would have launched into a huge panic attack and
hyperventilated. Then I  would have cried and wanted to kill myself, maybe
hurt myself some, then  just faded into a zombie like state as my hands
clawed at each other. And  that would have lasted all day or more,
depending on how long it would take  Brendan to do everything himself to
take care of the problem and reassure  me.

But that didn't happen today. I got panicky at first, but it didn't last.
Finally- finally! that rational old Vic voice that had been buried for so
long was able to calm me down and I stayed me and got better instead of
becoming that dark shadow that I hate. My thoughts didn't scatter all
around like a whirlwind. I was able to sort out what I needed to do step
by  step and I went to the bank and I called the credit card companies and
I  wrote down what I'll need to do once I get home. And I'm ok. I'm pissed
off  that I was such a stupid girl to lose my freakin' wallet, but I'm ok.

And to a normal person that might not seem like much, but to me (and
Brendan) this is...well hell I could cry from relief. I have been trapped
inside this dark cloud...like a demon that took over my mind after the
disfellowshipping. And now I have control again.

I have another doctor's appointment this evening. I expect the doctor will
tell me to stay on the meds and I think that's a good idea. But hopefully
it will only be the usual 6 months or so to make sure they work.

I have real hope for the first time in 3 years. And it feels damn good.

Victoria


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Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 21:29:07 -0400
From: dances with virgos <woj@smoe.org>
To: torinews@smoe.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>,
        rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: scarlet's walk rolling stone review

<url: http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/cd/review.asp?aid=2045016&cf=268 >

Tori Amos
Scarlet's Walk
(Epic - 2002)

*** [three stars]

On Scarlet's Walk, her seventh album, Tori Amos does a misty mountain hop
across a mythical America, blurring the line between the sacred and the
erotic, Cherokee prayers and porn-star lap dances, New Age and Led
Zeppelin. It's the latest transmission from Planet Tori, full of wordplay
that is by turns inscrutable, outrageously purple or righteously outraged.
Amos' albums have always been obsessed with the quest for self-realization;
Scarlet's Walk takes a thinly veiled alter ego on a journey across America
in search of the real her.

Amos' previous album, the all-covers Strange Little Girls, found her
role-playing with a delicious lack of inhibition; Scarlet's Walk is told
from a single female protagonist's perspective. But that doesn't stop Amos
from having fun. Even when she's fed up, as in "Taxi Ride," the steam rises
from a line such as "Even a glamorous bitch can be in need." And when her
voice frays, breaking into a Zeppelin-worthy moan on "Pancake," it gives
her disillusionment a sensual dimension.

Though Jon Evans' voluptuous bass and Matt Chamberlain's empathetic
percussion provide ballast, Scarlet is all about Amos and her many musical
personae, both as a singer and a keyboard player. She can be unbearably
precious ("I put our snowflake under a microscope"), and tunes such as
"Crazy" edge perilously toward Enya. But she keeps even her most fulsome
phrases conversational, her syntax underlined by rippling, chord-free
keyboard lines. The harmonies -- with Amos morphing into a backing choir or
whispering responses into her inner ear -- play a similar role. She may be
wandering the world by herself, but she's never alone: There's an army of
voices inside Tori Amos, and the girl knows how to use them.

GREG KOT
(RS 908 - October 31, 2002)

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Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 01:56:12 -0700
From: "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlife@hotmail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: advice needed so badly, por favor

Okay, here's the deal, yo.

There is this guy I like. His name is Chad and he's at the end of a bad, 2
year relationship. I met him in April and we've been friends. yes and he's
perfect. intelligent, a poli sci major, an only child like me, likes bob
dylan and woody allen, has beautiful eyes, my preferred body type and is
incredibly nice. so, tonight we were walking to this abortion event and he
was walking with my aquaintance, Kate. I met her last year, she's okay i
guess...kind of annoying and too perky. they were stuck like glue to each
other the entire night. yeah, my jealous streak came out and i think he'd
date her. she has morals like him. i have none. just that i want him. my
friend suggests that i tell chad or write him a letter saying "hi, i like
you a lot." but what if he says he won't date me or that he hates me? :(
god, i sound like i'm 16 instead of 23. but I hate this! He deserves me! I
deserve him and I spent all this dumb time crying over it tonight. He really
needs single time but after that, what do I do? make a move? tell him?
suffer in silence? ignore him? what? please, please give advice. This is
frustrating and sucking away studying time for japanese politics.

*sigh* did i mention he's perfect? he's really funny too. :D

gross. it's 2am and i have to be up at 7:30.
goodnight and thank you in advance.
love,
jess



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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 13:53:09 -0400
From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com>
To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: Five Women Ticket Info

To those not within the PA area, disregard.  For all others (or those
willing to travel), this is the info you need to get Tickets for
Performances of "Five Women Wearing the Same Dress" by Alan Ball (recent
Emmy Winner for "Six Feet Under").

The play dates are Nov. 1 & 2 @ 8PM and Sunday the 3rd at 2PM at the
Tompkins College Center Theatre.  They are $10 in advance or $12 at the
door.  You can call 610-606-4608 (the box office) and use a credit card, or
you can go here: http://www2.cedarcrest.edu/academic/tsd/current.html and
scroll down to "Five Women" and click the link to get an order form that can
be mailed with a check.

I am very excited about this play, it is hysterically funny and emotionally
touching.  I also love my character "Mindy" and get to do a bit of physical
comedy.  So anyone who can come, please do.  I look forward to seeing some
familiar faces outside the theatre after the performances.

For general info about Cedar Crest College, including directions, you can go
to http://www.cedarcrest.edu/.

Sorry for my past silence the past month.  But I've been extremely busy with
school and rehearsals (and birthday and trip to Atlantic City).

Thanks for your time and hope to see you there.

Peace,
Beth
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
without accepting it.  --Aristotle
www.bethcoulter.com

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Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 14:06:02 -0400
From: dances with virgos <woj@smoe.org>
To: torinews@smoe.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>,
        rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: scarlet's walk review from nyrock.com

thanks to audrey for pointing this out!

<url: http://nyrock.com/reviews/2002/tchm.asp >

Tori Amos, Scarlet's Walk (Epic)

It's been a decade since she released Little Earthquakes, and two years
after that Under the Pink, the heavy-hitting one-two punch that put her on
the map. Her musical and lyrical styles are brutally honest and
introspective. Though Amos doesn't have the ethereal loneliness to her
voice like Sarah Mclachlan or Kate Bush, she can venture into the high
register from time to time for a bit of a vocal workout. Yet key to Tori's
voice is you're never quite sure if she's fragile or solid as a rock ñ the
subtle shifts in her tonal timbre keep you guessing, and that, at least for
me, is the attraction.

At the beginning of "A Sorta Fairytale," for starters, her voice is timid,
yet by the first chorus, there's a bit of gravel, and you sense pillars of
strength supporting the individual. As the song progresses, and the vocals
double and multi-track, the instrumentation building ever so slightly, you
get a sense of emotional stabilization.

Unfortunately, the record company decided to offer up only six songs to
reviewers, afraid of critics who might instantly shove the entire album
onto the internet. And my first reaction is, if you're going to short the
reviewer, do you care about the artist? Or for that matter, the buying
public? It seems a desperate attempt to curb online thievery.

Rant aside, Amos plods her way through the six tunes, and I say "plods"
because there's no ripper here, instead you get a solemn trek across the
rock landscape, though the cut "Taxi Ride" does get slightly funky, and
sounds happier than the others. Amos tries to connect the songs and engage
the listener in a story line that follows a character across the U.S. from
West to East Coast, but again, with just six songs out of who knows how
many, it's disjointed thematically.

Her voice is solid as ever, and that's what really matters. Instrumentation
is minimal, her piano work is capable, and she'll get you wistful in a
heartbeat. Though it may not be up to the caliber of her first two discs,
what is presented here does show that Amos has maintained an artistic
integrity, and while she may not get tons of airplay or voluminous amounts
of press touting her, she's still okay ñ in my book, anyway.

ó B.R.

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Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 14:15:31 -0500
From: "Julie H." <julieh214@hotmail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: ERR!  GOING CRAZY!

10/9/02
2:07 pm

So I was just sitting next to David ("I'm Not In Love" guy) a few minutes
ago and we had chatted and stuff.  But when he first said, "Hi." to me he
said, "Hi Lis...I mean Julie."  Lisa is the name of his new girlfriend...now
I don't know if that was a true mistake or if he was doing that just to stab
a knife through my heart but it hurt.  I don't know why it hurt because I
personally think he's a fuckin' asshole but it hurts because of my
unreasonable attraction to him besides the fact that he has like 1 good side
and he is terribly good looking but that is so shallow of me...I can't help
it...I feel stupid.  I still have these really strange feelings like a
trillion butterflies fly in my stomach like crazy whenever I see him.  He is
such a jerk and I don't love him, although I feel I'm in such denial because
I feel like it's very possible that I might since I've been holding onto him
this long...why the hell would I ever love, or like an asshole jerk like
him...ERR!  I really feel like crying, right here at this library computer
with a bunch of people around me and David down the row.  I just looked at
him.  He's like a 5'5 Mexican male, strong and thin, really good looking.
Name brand clothes and baggy jeans.  He's so typical and stupid.  He thinks
being popular and Christian is the answer to everything.  Good looking and
making fun of others is one of his favorite things ever.  I don't know why,
I SERIOUSLY DON'T KNOW WHY I FUCKING LIKE HIM!!!!!!!!!!  ERR!!!!!!

Well, I know that almost all my posts have been about him so I guess I'll
talk about something else for the sake of having a new subject.

Um...I'm getting along better with my new friends that I eat lunch with...I
gotta go.  I have a weird feeling in my stomach....the after seeint David
feeling...(err...somebody shoot me)

Julie H.
E-mail & MSN IM:  JulieH214@hotmail.com
MTV Member:  JulieH214
AOL IM:  JulieH0214
Yahoo! IM:  Juls21487


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Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 19:16:47 +0000
From: "Madame Ade" <alexandriasisp@hotmail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: big pig, little pig

oink oink.

>        What does Tori say before surgery?
>        "Yes, Anaesthesia!"

heeheeheeeeee!  ooh, that's a good one...

>      In 2001, oh, how we love the "Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee!" song.  Still.
>      http://www.frashii.com/Weeee.swf

i bought a sweatshirt with the squirrel on it that says "weeeeeeee!"  i wore
it on monday, and the people who understood the reference thought it was
awesome.  i think i got the song stuck in many heads that day, including my
own...

cyndi said:
>         nope and nope! here's a hint: BLUE!!!!!!!! blue blue blue blue
>blue!! and lots of hair gel and hair spray and mousse (and no I'm not
>going as an 80's new wave punker.. it IS from a video game tho. ;) )

ooh, blue!  *sings*  we just figured out blues clues...
or not?  what about krishna?  or are you going as an airplane toilet?  or
the sky?  or superman with an elvis 'do?

>         XO chromosomes? wuzzat??

as oppose to XX or XY, she only has 1 X chromosome.  but she has part of
another X chromosome apparently, so she's not completely XO.

arija said:
>why is that cool?  that means she has Turner syndrome and she's sterile.  i
>dont think thats too cool.

well, she has part of the other X chromosome, and she *looks* normal.  i
think she didn't know about it until they did a blood test or something, and
she might be pretty normal aside from the chromosome thing.  i just think
it's cool that there's a genetic abnormality in the class.  i'm obsessed
with abnormalities.  she seems like a nice person though, and i don't go up
to her and say "hi, girl with funky chromosomes!"  i also think it's cool
that she was so open about it with the class.  yay.

megan said:
>Pray that you never see me dance.  It would make you feel wrong.  Very,
>very wrong.

*sigh*  too late!  *giggles*

>Pretty pretty pretty!  I want their look!  Yay!  I'm the one disgruntled
>teen in the world that hasn't gone through a goth phase!  I want my goth
>phase, dammit!

you're such a goth-wannabe.  you're funny!

i'm being a NUN for halloween!  the costume looks amazing!

-ade

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Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 14:13:29 -0700
From: "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlife@hotmail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: ack

I think I'm sniffing crack. I signed up for co-ed IM football with some
people in my house. since we live in dixon lodge, our name is dix-n-chicks.
haha.

we'll see how this goes. :/

-jessica

love is either in your heart or on its way--frank sinatra


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Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 18:21:20 -0500
From: "Julie H." <julieh214@hotmail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: Re: cyber sex

10/9/02
6:20 pm

Succubus Megan, I like your cyber sex chat, it's very interesting,
entertaining...lol

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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 19:21:09 -0400
From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com>
To: lyricallacquer@hotmail.com, precious0147@yahoo.com,
        candi4545@mcloudteleco.com, dovetail66@yahoo.com, acrowd49@AOL.com,
        kimplicity@hotmail.com, mleonard55@cox.net, mjcentral@hotmail.com,
        mjfansreunion@yahoogroups.com, mindyboo20@AOL.com,
        rdtrn@torithoughts.org, royha@deepfrost.com, GLPdoug@MSN.com
Subject: got a question..

according to this little online quiz I just took (it's at
www.sendingfun.com btw if you REALLY wanna bother taking it yourself.
"the YOU quiz" I think.): "Others see you as an exciting, highly
volatile, rather impulsive personality; a natural leader, who's quick to
make decisions, though not always the right ones. They see you as bold
and adventuresome, someone who will try anything once; someone who takes
chances and enjoys an adventure. They enjoy being in your company because
of the excitement you radiate."... do YOU think that's accurate?

-- Cyndi

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Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 20:22:36 -0500
From: Brad Shultz <springhaze@comcast.net>
To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: Partipipual parts

A testicle is to an ovary
as a clitoris is to a penis.

Not as Lavs said comparing a testicle to a pussy (vagina)  ( i have
never heard of a crime scene where the officer said :  "He raped her
with his testicle." )

Jessica....Do you really give blow jobs so freely?

Brian----Florida's panhandle voted repub..pro Bush.  In fact Algore
tried to cancel out all the panhandle overseas votes from us servicemen
from there.  Get your facts straight.  It was the stupid part of Florida
that claimed they could not read ballots.

Cybersex  That was just an excuse  My carpet was really not on fire
*cough*.

woo woo

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