RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #1756

RDT Right Now #1756

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Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 14:23:31 -0800
Subject: RDT Right Now #1756
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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to: <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the subject and body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 02 : Issue #1756 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o haven't seen her... [ "Bethany Rusen" <hejira@u-town.com> ] how God sounds to me [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ] you bet your (gonads and) strife it [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ] here comes a newbie :) [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ] It's a dog's life [ Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net. ] You have a posty! [ JulieH214@hotmail.com ] rep(ti)lies to john (and haphazard w [ arija.weddle@yale.edu ] Re: How God SoundsTo me [ "cdrv" <cdrv@arnet.com.ar> ] Tori survey! [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ] Alfie [ john bragazzi <utown@worldnet.att.n ] Your pics please! [ "Julie H." <julieh214@hotmail.com> ] Re: RDT Right Now #1755 [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ] a few comments about SW [ "Reed Darsey" <Reed_D@netzero.net> ] Alfie [ Violet <fluffy@annihilist.com> ] [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] day off To read more about these items, visit the list archives. [ ================================================================== ] Today's fuzzy ferret assistant: Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 19:35:10 -0500 From: "Bethany Rusen" <hejira@u-town.com> To: "Dipfucks" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: haven't seen her... So, i got the A Sorta Fairytale single. holy hell, Operation Peter Pan is like a lost song from Joni Mitchell. i mean, seriously, it sounds like it could be tacked onto the end of "Ladies of the Canyon" or something. weird. but i love it. it sounds just like a lullaby. happy thanksgiving, everyone.... i just strung some christmas lights outside and it made me insanely happy. -bethany _______________________________________________________________ a journal : http://hejira.u-town.com the centralia project : http://centralia.u-town.com "Why keep a journal? To stop time. To make a point about the pointlessness of it all. To have company. To be remembered. For there is so much to be recalled, with no one to do the recalling." (Ned Rorem) -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 19:35:04 -0500 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> To: precious-things@smoe.org, rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: how God sounds to me this just struck me as I'm sitting here listening to God.. there's a rather distinctly Latin sound to this track.. like the video coulda had some Flamenco dancers in it or something.. that's what comes to mind for ME anyway. does anybody agree? I love it.. :D Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ -- http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/368/ciara_blaze.html -- http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ -- http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ -- http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=kittitude Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do. Not. Describe. Myself." ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 22:19:16 -0500 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: you bet your (gonads and) strife it is! hee hee.. howdy everybody! :) Turkey Day is tomorrow for us.. (Thanksgiving) in the good ol US of A.. fun fun fun and games. right. lol anyway.. have a good one, everybody and eat lots of pumpkin pie! ON WITH THE unusually disjointed REPLIES!! :D Kerri said to us: "thank all of you dear dear people for the birthday wishes, i have been in the midst of art school insanity mixed together with various other job related nonsense that has kept me in a perpetual mode of phreakishness for the past ten weeks." isn't that the absolute-est most funnest fun in the whole world??? o_O;; you also mentioned that you recently moved to Georgia.. right? verily kewl. I've been here in GA for the last 11 or so years.. o_O since about a month before my 10th birthday in fact. Beth said: "Welcome back, Gabriela! I was just thinking of you. :)" yeah, I second that wb. Welcome back to the RDTRN world! we missed you muchlyroonies! :D Brian said: "I saw Elvis the other day as I was leaving work. He was just walking down the street in his Vegas suit, minding his own business, which was probably to hit the nearest Mc Donalds for a Cheeseburger." ay.. he needs to get in shape.. or hire a really good liposuction surgeon. lol.. :D got a question for ya--do you know who the main 3 ppl that country music artists are supposed to name when they win an award? Mama, Jesus, and Elvis. that's who. :D random thought.. regarding famous ppl.. 99X.. the "new rock" station here in Atlanta once was like "anybody who's had a relationship with a famous person or got to meet them or something, call in!" one girl said she got to meet Flea. she was oh.. well definitely underage at the time, so they just chatted. one guy claimed that he got to do Liz Phair.. I wonderrrrr... Matt explained his lack of replies (along with lack of time): "...with a slowly haemhorraging macula lutea in my right eye are keeping me from reading (and therefore writing) as often as i would like." aaaaaack! not good.. o_O hope that problem can get fixed.. Matt explained his first-time-Tori experience.. lol.. verily kewl.. a LOTTA ppl reacted strongly to MAAG, so I've understood.. I can't say the same for myself. my biggest emotional reaction (without crying actually) was to the Dakota Mix of Hey Jupiter.. but we all already know the story behind that one, right? :D Victoria got to see Tori at the Palace Theatre.. WAHOO!! glad it was fun! :) Simon, as for your new dog, I like Vega. :) Juno doesn't sound like a good choice as it's the same name as my email server which is also a very craptastic ISP. :) and on that note.. ciao! :D Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ -- http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/368/ciara_blaze.html -- http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ -- http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ -- http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=kittitude Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do. Not. Describe. Myself." ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 01:35:21 -0500 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: here comes a newbie :) Okay everybody! thanks to good ol' me, I seem to have roped my bf Jonnie into joining the list. He's shy, but he asked me to kinda post a little "hi I'm new" message for him.. and that.. my friends.. is exact-aroonily what THIS is! :D so... everybody wave and say "hi Jonnie!" and send him chocolate and teddy bears. ON SECOND THOUGHT.. just give him a howdy. :D either way, he's joining up. :) Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ -- http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/368/ciara_blaze.html -- http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ -- http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ -- http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=kittitude Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do. Not. Describe. Myself." ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 21:50:39 +1100 From: Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net.au> To: Really Deep Thrusts Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: It's a dog's life A new chicken take-away has opened up across the road from work. They proclaim, "fresh, not frozen". What is that supposed to mean? Have they got a guy out back choking chickens or something? They also have a video projector that they show on the wall. I've seen them showing Titanic (what about the nudie bits?), Britney Spears videos (not much difference) and an Eddie Murphy movie. This is in a public thoroughfare of all places! They probably don't even have a license to play these movies. Has AOL taken over ICQ or something? I downloaded Netscape 7 today and it seemed to be an integral part of it at first glance. In 1754, Cyndi didst ask... >speaking of pajamas and the like.. Hugh Hefner.. being that he is >a man who wears his jammies nearly 24/7. has anyone ever seen him in a >real bonafide tie-and-suit getup? If you're that rich, why would you bother getting changed? As for if anyone's actually seen him in real clothes, they've probably been eliminated. ;-) He's got an image to keep up, even if he can't keep other things up anymore. Matt replied: >"How about the cricket?" > >if i have my dates worked out right, you asked that question even before >the first test. I can't even remember now. I think it might have been right at the end of the first test, but you know how it is with Ashes series, it's over before it starts. I also have to question why the selectors picked an injured Gough in the side, but considering how many injuries there have been, he's probably the healthiest of the lot. I'm wondering if you heard the news that Matthew Hayden just had a hemorrhoid operation? Here he is, the best batsman in the world at the moment had he's had a pain in the arse for months. English bowlers would argue he is a pain in the arse, but is this maybe the secret ingredient for success and will England try to emulate it? Makes you wonder what's been up Warney's arse for all these years. >moving on to safer ground - wanna talk rugby?! ;-) Not interesting. ;-) See you next year in the World Cup, matey. I'm sure most of the people on this list are scratching their heads and going, "Wha???" >this echoes some of my own feelings recently. i realise i might be >stepping onto unstable ground with >what-should-and-what-shouldn't-be-posted comments, but it's just that i >seem to find myself scrolling a lot more in recent weeks. It's really for people to decide for themselves as to what's appropriate and what's not, but I do feel with a lot of the stuff that has been posted recently, in a year, 2 years, 5 years, whatever, the authors are going to read it and die of embarrassment. Then we'll have another round of arguments about the accuracy of the archives and people wanting their posts pulled from there. I can put up with the reviews, as once the tour is over, they'll dry up, plus they can actually be a source of comment, something I wish more people would do around here. Simon asked about dog names: >I've got a few possible names picked out but I was wondering if you all >here might have some input. Well I don't think Juno or Vega are so bad, but I don't agree with using people's names as dog names. It just sounds dumb. Years ago, I was travelling around Nepal with a guy named Rex. He pointed out to me that in every Gary Larson cartoon that had a dog, the dog's name was Rex. When I thought about it, I knew he was right. Nobody deserves to go through life with a dog's name. Brian -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 11:20:36 -0500 (EST) From: JulieH214@hotmail.com To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: You have a posty! Confidential! For Really Deep Thinkers only! Julie has created a special posty, just for you, Really Deep Thinkers and has sent it to you on Thu Nov 28 11:20:36 2002. The posty will be stored for you for 3 weeks. Be sure to pick it during these 3 weeks before it expires. You may pick it up from Under Pink Posties http://home.hvc.rr.com/chasing/index.html Your ticket number is: 112811203627858 Alternatively you can pick it up by clicking on the link below: http://bas.mypostcards.com/?underpink+112811203627858 *********** If you are using AOL mail: <a href="http://bas.mypostcards.com/?underpink+112811203627858";>just click here</a>. *********** ----- FREE* DVDS! - Select from 1000s of DVDs! Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Monsters Inc, Shrek, and more. SIGN UP HERE! http://psstt.com/1/c/64920/75824/224854/224854 -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 16:22:28 -0500 From: arija.weddle@yale.edu To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: rep(ti)lies to john (and haphazard wandering) > I've said it before and I'll say it again. She's a very good singer >(noticeably better on the last tour than before), but she's a *great* > pianist. I'm sorry that doesn't show more on this album. i agree with everything here, but what i'm responding to is her vocal condition on this tour. being a singer myself, i've come to the harsh realization that only some people are made to sing a certain way. some people, in this case, are tori and a certain way, is that high belt, strong head voice, banshee wail that we all adore so much. it's amazing really, and she should be given a fuckload of credit for doing that night after night. if i, the inexperienced amateur, were to try to make it as a vocalist (snort) i'd be confined to the sultry jazz singer lying across the piano, not the intense, esoteric fiery headed vixen banging on the thing. reason being, my voice, as does the majority of women's, i'd wager, gives out after belting for a week straight, and settles into a comfortable range of under middle c. that said, last year, on the strange little tour, i wanted to find tori after the show, give her some hot water with honey and lemon and urge her to take some vocal rest. i know that a lot of her raspiness is affected, but it seemed to me that it crept in a whole lot more last year than it did this year. in fact, i thought she sounded even better in this respect the second night i saw her. one's vocal chords naturally begin to sag with age and can't achieve that manner of stretch that is required to sing and belt really high. take poor joni mitchell, the hapless 1960s soprano who now does all her songs an octave down (also contributed to by years of smoking, etc.). i never saw tori back in her earliest days, but i wonder if her voice has changed a lot. you can't tell all that much on her albums, but that sort of sound can be edited in the mastering process, too. have any tori veterans observed changes like these? this just made me think of something else. when i went to ben folds over the summer, there were two groups of people there: those (like me) who sang along to all the old (ben folds five) stuff he played, and those who didn't know the old stuff but sang along to his new, solo stuff (stuff i wasn't familiar with). assuming each album is a possible entry point to tori, what is the likelihood of one becoming a fan because of each particular album? sorry, that sentence totally sucked, here's what i mean. if the first tori album that someone heard was Scarlet's Walk, do you think it would have the same power to turn that listener on to tori as Little Earthquakes or Boys for Pele would? (or any of the others, but you can substitute TVAB and all that follow for SW, as far as i'm concerned). like if you just heard scarlet's walk, would you say, wow this woman is amazing, i'm going to run out and buy all her other stuff too, stuff she did in the 90s? i'm really curious to know what you all think. so stop reading us your diaries and holla back. arija p.s. on a more personal note, does anyone on this list (who's comfortable talking about it) have Crohn's disease, or is close to someone who does? you can email me personally about that if you'd like. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 23:11:35 -0300 From: "cdrv" <cdrv@arnet.com.ar> To: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Re: How God SoundsTo me I have never thought about that Cyndi, but you are right. It kinda has that Latin Groove to it. I guess I have just gained a new perspective on a Tori Song. Thanks! :) See Ya :) Daniel -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 23:36:02 -0500 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> To: precious-things@smoe.org, rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Tori survey! heh heh.. this oughta be fun. :) it's only 8 questions long so DO check it out. :) -- Cyndi here's a Tori survey for everyone. all questions refer to Tori Amos of course. it's short and fun so give it a try. don't worry. 1. Which is your favourite album? I consider Little Earthquakes a favorite because it's the first one I ever heard.. but.. the albums (I cannot pick one!) that I listen to the most frequently are From The Choirgirl Hotel and To Venus and Back. :D 2. Best album art? um...... prolly FTCH. 3. Best album title? rofl.. don't ask. I can't decide! 4. All time fave tori song? Hey Jupiter Dakota Version for sentimental value, uh..... currently Raspberry Swirl because it is HARD not to dance and sing along (loudly) to it. :D 5. Fave song from... Little Earthquakes? Crucify is definitely one I'd play on repeat.. but then so is Tear In Your Hand. Under the Pink? Icicle and The Waitress and Bells For Her Boys For Pele? uhh.... all of 'em? >From the Choirgirl Hotel? Black Dove-January, Raspberry Swirl, Liquid Diamonds and Northern Lad To Venus and Back? Bliss, Juarez, Concertina, Glory Of The 80's, and Datura Strange Little Girls? I'm Not In Love and Happiness Is A Warm Gun Scarlet's Walk? Your Cloud and I Can't See New York 6. What was your first fave Tori song? the Dakota version of Hey Jupiter. :) 7. Have you ever named a cat/car/plant after a Tori song? explain. hmm.. not yet. lol.. I have a friend who named his car Datura tho. :) 8. What other things has Tori turned you onto? um, I have to say Howie Day because he's her opening act right now. ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 05:34:41 -0500 (EST) From: john bragazzi <utown@worldnet.att.net> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Alfie Daniel said: > Strangely enough ALFIE is another STREISAND TUNE, which apparently is the > main track of a film in which the main character is named that way The movie was named "Alfie" and came out in the 60s, starring Michael Caine. I believe the hit version of the song, from the soundtrack, was recorded by Dione Warwick (it was a huge hit at the time). As B/4, John -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 13:26:14 -0600 From: "Julie H." <julieh214@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Your pics please! 11/29/02 1:26 pm Please post a pic of yourself! Here's mine: Just go to www.members.tripod.com/kandie_land and then click on FWENDZ and then I'm the last one at the bottom of the page - I'm Julie. Julie H. E-mail & MSN IM: JulieH214@hotmail.com MTV Member: JulieH214 AOL IM: JulieH0214 Yahoo! IM: Juls21487 _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 17:34:00 -0500 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Re: RDT Right Now #1755 the RDTRNs are rather slow these days.. *pokes the RDTRN world* wake up.. you're late! er.. nevermind. anyway.. :D on with the fuzzy pumpkin pie-coated replies. :) John, I loved your little atom bomb/bullet joke.. too true! Ade said: "i'm going to florida for thanksgiving. it may be the last time i see my nana, since she's dying from lung cancer. *groan*" *louder groan* cancer sucks. o_O;; let's hope that Thanksgiving isn't the last time you see her, eh? :D Julie: glad you finally broke the ice with your friends. :D nice lyrics, Daniel.. ^^ Renata: good luck with the meet-and-greet at Borders. o_O if I lived in that area.. I'd be lounging around there for a week most likely.. O_O rofl.. Bethany told us of her first Tori experience in concert.. too bad it sucked. but you got to see Tori! :) Bethey said: "I'll be glad when it's done. I hate doing video with a passion and this is probably the hardest B I'll ever earn." o_O I looooove video! what's the hardest part about it for ya? for me, it's the tediousness.. but having said that.. I LOVE MAKING and EDITING VIDEOS! :D hee hee, and on THAT note.. *poof* *unpoof* bye! *poof!* Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ -- http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/368/ciara_blaze.html -- http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ -- http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ -- http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=kittitude Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do. Not. Describe. Myself." ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 00:53:38 -0600 From: "Reed Darsey" <Reed_D@netzero.net> To: precious-things@smoe.org CC: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: a few comments about SW In the late 60's and early 70's my favorite group was Jefferson Airplane, whose lead vocalist was Grace Slick. The early 80's had some interesting female vocalists, but I kind of "gave up" on current rock around the time Heart released `Never'. Then in 1992, while flipping through radio channels while driving, I heard `Crucify' and knew it was unlike anything I had ever heard before. LE changed my perception of music, and replaced "After Bathing at Baxter's" as my favorite rock album. `Bells' on UTP essentially became, and still is, my favorite Tori song. (Did anyone else hear it on "Shickele Mix" in July of this year? Peter likes it.) Already having an appreciation for the harpsichord from my classical music interests, BFP was an interesting step. I stopped reading the mailing lists just after FTCH came out, and was relieved that TVAB sounded like music as music, not painful stories of Tori's life. It seemed that after practically 10 years she had finally achieved what she set out to LA for. (I don't yet have SLG as her covers never to seem to have her personal "magic" in them, but plan to get it soon.) The only radio formats I listen to consistently to, to find other enchanting artists, are shows like Echoes, New Directions, PM Jukebox, Highway 61, Celtic Connections, Thistle and Shamrock, etc. I found Maire Brennan, who has especially come to life with her Celtic Christian albums. And next on my list to explore is Happy Rhodes, who seems to be known to many Tori fans from way back. So, as for analyzing SW, I've only scratched the surface, and want to give what I have so far. First of all, isn't this the only album with a song having the name of the album itself? As for my initial comment a few weeks ago about feeling like it was 1992 again, musically the solo piano versions of `Pancake' and `Virginia' have a `Crucify'-like intensity, and even some tie-in lyrics: `Virginia' - "wait for their savior to come" `Crucify' - "looking for a savior" `Pancake' - "messiahs need people dying in their name" More vague: `Virginia' - "and with a 'goodbye' there she goes" `Bells' - "and there goes her friend" The intro to `Pancake' is very similar to BFP's `Blood Roses'. Also interesting is `Liquid Diamonds' on FTCH while SW has `Carbon'. (`Carbon' also sounds like what I would call classic Tori, from the LE - UTP era.) An interesting issue now is what constitutes the "real" version of a song. I found that, especially in the case of my two favorites, `Virginia' and `Pancake' that the various October solo piano versions are better than the CD versions. (And I just have heard one of those live `Scarlet Walk' versions on some radio show during October, while I had my computer apart and wasn't listening very carefully, as I wasn't aware that Tori even had a new CD out, until something in the Sony list caught my eye.) The SW CD does have a "commercial" sound to it. E.g., there aren't the dynamic jumps like in `Pretty Good Year' on UTP, making it the first one that can be simply played from start to finish without "surprises". (Either sonically or emotionally.) The rock and roll energy in the CD's `Pancake', while very nice unto itself, is very different than the focus of the Oct 2002 solo piano live versions. And as my final comment, I should add that `Operation Peter Pan' is also one of my favorites from the SW production. _________________________________________________________ Reed Darsey / Grand Bay, Alabama, USA / eFax 520-569-6961 --------------------------------------------- Introducing NetZero Long Distance 1st month Free! Sign up today at: www.netzerolongdistance.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 02:48:41 -0800 From: Violet <fluffy@annihilist.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Alfie "Alfie" was the theme song for the film by the same name (starring Michael Caine as -- surprise! -- Alfie). It was written by Burt Bacharach (as all songs were back then), lyrics by Hal David, and was sung by Dionne Warwick (as all songs were back then). When I was 11, I was given a stuffed dog by one of my best friends and I named him Alfie, after the song. I used to sing it to him all the time. What's it all about, Alfie? Is it just for the moment we live? What's it all about when you sort it out, Alfie? Are we meant to take more than we give Blah, blah, blah. There were more than a few occasions when I'd melodramatically sing to Alfie like he was Romeo and I was Juliet, showering him with romantic kisses in between lines, practicing for the day when I had a real boyfriend, and my parents would be secretly watching me and laughing. I like to think they were laughing at how charming and cute children can be, but they were probably really laughing at what a little nimrod I was, slobbering over this sorry saggy dog. I slept with that dog every single night until I was 19. I couldn't go to sleep without him. Then, I got married and was packing to move away and on a split-second whim I decided that I was too old to sleep with a stuffed animal and tossed him. He was pretty darn bedraggled by then. The husband was ditched 10 years later, and there have been many times I've genuinely regretted having thrown Alfie away. I miss that silly old dog. I still don't know what the hell I was thinking. 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