RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #1771

RDT Right Now #1771

From: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 04:33:25 -0800
Subject: RDT Right Now #1771
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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to: <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the subject and body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 02 : Issue #1771 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o Re: julie, ditd [ "Julie H." <julieh214@hotmail.com> ] Last night & today [ "Julie H." <julieh214@hotmail.com> ] wonder why they call you bitch [ "Dani Ringrose" <chronic_sublime@ho ] Replies [ Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net. ] Tori for Hollywood Walk of Fame... [ "Dalsh 327" <dalsh327@hotmail.com> ] memories provoker [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ] [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] day off To read more about these items, visit the list archives. [ ================================================================== ] Today's fuzzy ferret assistant: Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 11:11:28 -0600 From: "Julie H." <julieh214@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Re: julie, ditd 12/29/02 11:58 am This is the whole story that my mom & bro told me. Well, from what my brother and mom described it's about a woman that is going blind and it runs in her family...she has a son that will be blind eventually. She wants him to get an eye job so he won't be blind. Because this woman is going blind it's hard to find work but she doesn't want anyone to know she's going blind because of that, so her friend helps her memorize steps with her eyes closed. People make fun of her because of it. Somewhere along the line some person wants to die but doesn't want to committ suicide so he demands this woman to kill him and then she does unwillingly and gets tried for murder. The irony of the situation is that she really did kill this person, but only because he was demanding and threatening it...I think. So, she's proven guilty and sentence to death. The little boy does get his eye job and right before she's hung, her friend gives her the glasses of the boy so she knows he got the eye job, the woman sings to her boy and then they hang her. I just couldn't handle that...it was just go gut-wrenchingly painful to think about that I feel like puking. I mean it sounds like an amazingly well written movie, but I wouldn't be able to handle it. What my brother did was tell me the story so I'd understand the album, bet he didn't know that I don't wanna hear the story because of it's storyline or whatever. Well, what's said is said and it was a mistake that I even understand that I was wrong. It's hard for me to admit if I'm wrong, but I realized that. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU = http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_advancedjmf_3mf -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 21:22:18 -0600 From: "Julie H." <julieh214@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Last night & today 12/29/02 10:02 pm Hey...well last night I attempted to watch more of it but I fell asleep. I'm really confused right now, I wonder if I already e-mailed this story to you...hmm...well, here it goes again. You can probably tell I have major OCD. I woke up really early because I had a strange stomach ache...I felt like I couldn't breathe easily or something. I realized I was hungry later, but I think I was a little homesick too. I'm still in Maine. I like it here and I'm having a good time, but, once again, Dorthy says, "There's no place like home." I went upstairs and it was about 7:00 am or so and ate & drank something because I was hungry. Anyways, one of the cats, Rosie, jumped up on my lap and purred while resting. It was a really nice moment. I connect with animals so well. I went back downstairs and fell asleep finally. I was dreaming that I was on the phone with my dad and I wanted to talk to him so I said, "Dad!?" twice and the second time I said it I was half awake/half asleep and my mom heard both of them. She thought that was really sweet and told my dad that. He said that he kept saying "What?" in his dream...lol...he's hillarious. I miss him. During lunch we watched The Shining on TNT, it was really bad being on TV - edited and commercials...but I think I actually liked watching it better that way because it didn't scare me. Being that it was daytime and light in the room, I hardly ever get scared of scary movies. I think it's a very well done movie, but it scares the hell outta me. Hannah and I went to see the movie, Maid In Manhattan. I was interested at first, but it was a really bad movie. It lacked chemistry and relationship between the couple or whatever. Just like Crazy/Beautiful was lacking chemistry and relationship. We played some more of Sims and it was fun. Etc. etc. etc. I'm having a good time here. But I can't wait to get home. I got a blurty journal...I like using it, it's fun, but I feel like you all are my journal so I don't wanna retype things...I dunno, I'll figure it out later. Julie H. E-mail & MSN IM: JulieH214@hotmail.com MTV Member: JulieH214 AOL IM: JulieH0214 Yahoo! IM: Juls21487 _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=74 74&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_addphotos_3mf -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 14:52:57 +1000 From: "Dani Ringrose" <chronic_sublime@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: wonder why they call you bitch Cyndi, I don't even know where to start with your reply; I'll think I'll wait until you post your second reply first . Admitting that you think that the golden years of hip hop were 97-99 explains your position a little better, though. To research your post a little better, I scoured amazon.com, downloaded files from Kazaa and looked up lyrics from ohhla.com (a trusted resource), just to see what you were giving me as examples of rap songs that "said" things. For what it's worth, I know -I- always look to Kid Rock for not only lyrics that say things, but also examples of fantastic hip hop. Saying that rap artists these days have less to say than the rock scene, and then pulling out the examples of Ja Rule, DMX, Puff Daddy (oh man) and KID ROCK really confused me. Are you saying that these artists had lots to say, back in the prime hip hop years of 97-99? I take it you're familiar with the term "old school"? 97-99 IS not considered the golden "old school" years of hip hop, and for good reason. I will say that out of those listed, 2Pac is the one who had the greatest gift for lyrical style, but no matter how hard I try, no matter how many songs I download, I can't make myself like him. His beats are a little more sparse than what appeals to my ear. Although he died in 1996, so I'm not sure if you could include him in the golden years of 97-99 of hip hop. I'm sorry Cyndi, if I actually burst out laughing when you wrote that you only discovered that Puff Daddy's music is unoriginal, "especially when I looked at the liner notes and saw that **EVERY** single song in the album was sampled from at least one song)". Hip hop has its roots in sampling, turntablists and DJs spinning old soul and funk records for their MCs to have beats to rap over. It's not only a way of sourcing beats, it's also a way of paying homage to your favourite artists. Want to know what songs -your- favourite rap artists have sampled lately? Try using http://www.members.accessus.net/~xombi/intro.html as a source. Led Zeppelin and James Brown being consistently sampled across all years of hip hop; Brown sampled no less than 2 times in NWA's "Fuck the Police", an honorary as high as any Grammy, to be sure. I don't think hip hop is all about sitting around your Roland 808 and trying to come up with some new beats. By extension, a lot of dance music contains samples; Australian group the Avalanches (one of the best in the world) is famous for their use of samples in their music, to the point where they're revered for it (900-1000 samples on their debut record, if you're wondering). Download (or buy) their "Frontier Psychiatrist" song, and see if -you- can catch all 37 samples jam-packed into the song. For what it's worth, the Avalanches were the first artists given permission to sample a Madonna song in their work, so impressed was she by their talents. Collage is a respected genre of art, isn't it? Looking forward to your next reply, although I'm still awaiting part two of your first one. Actually, maybe I should be printing up these emails and giving them to any of my senior students I teach next year, to get them off the Nelly / Bone Thugs kick they always find themselves on, to show them there's more to rap than Eminem and Dr Dre. rocking over the beats, Dani. ----- dani@conditioned.org www.conditioned.org _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=74 74&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_addphotos_3mf -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 22:08:20 +1100 From: Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net.au> To: Really Deep Thrusts Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Replies You'd think I could come up with a better subject than that. Cyndi wrote in #1767: > and don't even bother holding your breath for a new Green Day or >Tori or Michael Jackson or Marilyn Manson or.. well, you get the idea. >ACTUALLY, I'd kinda like to see a "new" wannabe Manson.. see how well >they succeed. lol.. Interesting how you put two freak shows together. ;-) If you go by artists that use shock tactics, Eminem would have to be the new Marilyn Manson. I base that on Ozzy Osbourne being the first in the line, then Alice Cooper, followed by MM. But Eminem doesn't really fit the genre, so either he's the first of the popular shock artists in his domain, or what/who comes after Manson has to be really freaky. But of all the artists I mention above, all of them seem to have a sense of humour, albeit an unusual one. It's just lost amongst the shock/schlock tactics. They certainly seem to know what they're doing, except maybe for Ozzy who is too drug addled, bless him. Well after last week, it seems punk is dead with the passing of Joe Strummer of a heart attack at age 50. Violet asked: >I love hearing how different people celebrate the holidays. > >What do you guys do? As you'd probably guess, it gets rather hot in Australia at Christmas. Last year was a scorcher but thankfully this year was pleasant for a change. To suit the climate, most people have given up on the idea of a hot turkey roast on the day. You might still have turkey, but it's likely to be cold, along with ham and salads. If anything is likely to be hot, it's probably seafood, like king prawns (yes, shrimp on the barbie) and fish. Of course, the day usually involves large quantities of alcohol. Last year we were all legless by lunchtime from the booze and the heat. Over recent years, Christmas has been at my sister's place as it's a large place, there's plenty of things you can do on the lake and it's usually my side of the family and her in-laws. This year, as the upstairs of her place is being completed we had it on neutral territory, which was a waterside park for a picnic. After all the cold seafood, ham and turkey, we went for a spin on Sydney Harbour while chugging on a few coldies. Jessica *superstar* Parsons said in #1768: >I love blink 182 but i don't think fo them as pure punk. Neither do I and that goes for The Offspring as well. They seem to be having too much fun to fit the image. So if your middle name is Rhodes, does that mean you let guys bang on you like a piano? From Bethany in #1770: >I seriously have like four unfinished RDT posts from about two weeks ago >sitting in my drafts folder. one i didn't send because I was a little >drunk when I wrote it.... and other three, well, i just forgot i wrote >'em. the stuff in them was good, but horribly out of date. Hell, send 'em in. Especially the drunken ramblings, they're funny. As for things being out of date, considering how little is coming through this place I don't think it would matter. Just ask Simon. ;-) Anything's better than nothing when nothing seems to be everything. Have a happy and safe New Year y'all. Brian -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 12:18:40 -0800 From: "Dalsh 327" <dalsh327@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Tori for Hollywood Walk of Fame... I think it's time for everyone to start sending in submissions for Tori to get a star... she definitely meets the criteria. http://www.hollywoodcoc.org/walkoffame/walkfaq.html Criteria: 1) Professional Achievement in the Field of Entertainment 2) Longevity of Five Years or More 3) Contribution to the Community Recipient must agree to attend the dedication ceremony. Only one posthumous award will be selected for 2003. There is a five-year waiting period after death for nominations of deceased individuals. Approved applicants must be submitted to the board of public works two to three months prior to the requested date of insertion. All applications must include bio (of no more than 10 pages) and photo (non-returnable samples of the nominee's work may also be submitted (eg. a music CD for the recording category or a videocasette for the motion picture category). The committee does not accept signature petitions or postcards, letters, etc. Please be advised that if you nominee is selected and the induction has not bee done within five years of the selection date of June 2002, the nominee must be resubmitted during another voting period. DEADLINE FOR SUBMISSION OF APPLICATION IS MAY 31, 2003. The Sponsorship fee is $15,000 and is subject to change. For more information call (323) 469-8311. SEND SUBMISSIONS TO: WALK OF FAME COMMITTEE C/O HOLLYWOOD CHAMBER OF COMMERCE 7018 HOLLYWOOD BLVD. HOLLYWOOD, CA 90028 Q: How can I nominate someone for a Walk of Fame Star? A: Applications are available through our website or by sending us a self-addressed stamped envelope to the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce at 7018 Hollywood Blvd., Hollywood, CA 90028 Q: Who can do the nominating? A: Anyone, including a fan, can nominate a celebrity as long as the celebrity or his/her management is in agreement with the nomination. If there is no letter of agreement included from the celebrity or his/her representative, the committee will not accept the application. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_eliminateviruse s_3mf -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:34:43 -0500 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> To: mjfansreunion@yahoogroups.com, rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: memories provoker http://www.x-entertainment.com/ <--- looky.. this'll bring back memories worse than yesterdayland.com! lol especially if you watched 'toons and bought the little toys back in the 80's, etc.. Sincerely, Cyndi S. 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