RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #1790

RDT Right Now #1790

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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 03:59:07 -0800
Subject: RDT Right Now #1790
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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to: <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the subject and body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 03 : Issue #1790 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o still alive [ "Lavenda" <earth@comcen.com.au> ] Re: [ToriTour US] spokane on-sale da [ dances with virgos <woj@smoe.org> ] Re: RDTRN 1788--hydrogen cars [ Mark Alexander <alexander750@earthl ] cnn article [ iTard <woj@smoe.org> ] Re: cnn article [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ] VD Present for my boy [ "John Kwiatkowski" <rattlespark@hot ] read my story! [ Succubus Megan <Abulia@imaterrorist ] Re: RDT Right Now #1789 [ Teunis Peters <winterlion@greycloak ] Director's Chair [ "Julie H." <julieh214@hotmail.com> ] I can't do it... [ "Julie H." <julieh214@hotmail.com> ] more randomness [ Teunis Peters <winterlion@greycloak ] hello [ "manu pradel" <mpradel@libertysurf. ] this week's tori presales [ iTard <woj@smoe.org> ] squiggles [ "Madame Ade" <alexandriasisp@hotmai ] Frankie Say Relaaaaax! [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ] Fwd: Tulsa listing (finally) [ iTard <woj@smoe.org> ] Letter to the Editor -- First draft [ Jim <jimphynn@mindspring.com> ] Just checking in [ Megan Sackett <MSackett@machalek.co ] =?iso-8859-1?Q?It's_All_in_the_Name? [ "J. Mathers" <jmathers@westol.com> ] [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] day off To read more about these items, visit the list archives. [ ================================================================== ] Today's fuzzy ferret assistant: Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 12:44:11 +1100 From: "Lavenda" <earth@comcen.com.au> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: still alive yes, once again a pithy little post because my mind is on other things. Thanks to all those who sent b'day wishes, wasn't a bad day all-round :) Hmmm... should I go dig out my report card now? X Lavs -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 01:25:59 -0600 From: Mark Alexander <alexander750@earthlink.net> To: "that redhead with the piano" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Re: RDTRN 1788--hydrogen cars In RDTRN 1788, Simon Booth wrote: > (...) Although I need to point out that hydrogen > cars are a good idea, and there's nothing nuclear about them. Hydrogen > burns clean and the only thing in the exhaust is steam. Warning: lots of engineering geek-speak ahead... Assuming: (a) the air-fuel ratio is kept as close to "stoichiometric" (that is, the two parts hydrogen to one part oxygen) as is possible with present engine control systems. If it's too rich, you'll waste fuel (and maybe create an explosion hazard, if the level in the exhaust is above the "lower explosive limit"--admittedly unlikely, but I've heard of it happening to a few *very* unlucky mechanics). The real problem, though, is if it's too lean: Too much oxygen will raise the combustion temperature, to the point where it'll react with the nitrogen--creating the dreaded "oxides of nitrogen," or "NOx" in SAE-speak--the stuff of smog, acid rain, ozone in the wrong places, and global warming (nitrous oxide is a greenhouse gas, just like carbon dioxide, methane, and CFCs). The above only applies, of course, if the hydrogen is actually burned in an internal (piston, rotary, gas turbine, etc.) or external (read, "steam-driven") combustion engine. In a fuel cell, the reaction takes place at well below combustion temperatures, so smog production is not a problem. However... (b) Where will that hydrogen come from? Unless you envision a collection nozzle stuck in a (main sequence) star somewhere, or maybe slurping up intergalactic gas clouds, it'll have to come from a source here on Earth. Which means splitting up some other molecule to get it: (1) Methane. Easy (it's where NASA gets theirs), but dirty; doing so makes carbon dioxide as a byproduct, so what's the point? Ditto for coal gas, which was an important source in "the old days." (2) Water. Difficult. Takes LOTS of juice. Which has to come from somewhere, typically a coal-fired boiler, or a dam, or a fission reactor (blech). Of course, you could use solar collectors, or wind, or tidal generators, but you'd need lots of them. As in, you'd need all of Texas for enough solar collectors to make enough electricity to make enough hydrogen to power the cars there. Assuming it's sunny. Which, in Texas, it often isn't. Geothermal is a possibility, if you're Bjork Gudmundsdottir or someone similarly Icelandic. Most of us are not Icelandic, unfortunately. Plus, volcanoes smell horrible, corrode almost everything (you have to make the plumbing out of something inert, like titanium alloy), make an awful mess with dust and ash, and have a nasty tendency to erupt now and again and bury your expensive power plant in hot lava. Not fun. As for fusion, it'll be here "Real Soon Now." Right after we've cured poverty and ignorance, colonized Mars, convinced every Windows user to switch to Linux, and made Israel and Palestine get along. It's still a long long way from breakeven to your PG&E bill. Oh, and one other thing: the Second Law of thermodynamics. Specifically, it'll take more energy to make, transport, and use the hydrogen in fuel-cell cars than it would to simply wire the cars' electric motors directly to the power plant, perhaps in slot-car fashion, or by using magnetic coils (superconducting, natch) in the roadbed. Can you say "Carnot's Law" and "waste heat"? I knew you could. If the money's available to spend on hydrogen, it would be better spent on rebuilding our cities, so we wouldn't be so dependent on cars in the first place. But of course, the money's not there. It's being spent on a "war on terror" or some such Orwellian horseshit. Armageddon, here we come. What was it Ben Franklin said about liberty and security? I forgot. Estraven. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 13:26:09 -0500 From: iTard <woj@smoe.org> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Re: spokane on-sale date thanks to ty for this! this correlates with the february 14th general sale date that the ticketwest phone center was reporting. From: Ty Barrett To: <report@torithoughts.org> Subject: spokane on ticketswest Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 12:55:47 -0500 i was able to use the password VEGAS to get into the page on ticketwest's site for the spokane show, and it's now saying that tickets go on sale Wednesday, February 12th at 10am (pacific time). -ty +w -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 15:36:00 -0500 From: iTard <woj@smoe.org> To: torinews@smoe.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>, rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: cnn article <url: http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Music/02/05/mroom.amos/ > Tori Amos' musical journey across America Friday, February 7, 2003 Posted: 8:08 AM EST (1308 GMT) (CNN) -- A piano player since she was 2 1/2 years old, Tori Amos emerged as one of the most emotionally intense female singer-songwriters of the '90s. The North Carolina native went on a musical odyssey for her most recent album, "Scarlet's Walk," an exploration of America's soul post 9/11. TMR caught up with Amos recently: TMR: Has becoming a mother influenced your music? AMOS: I think motherhood is a place that you live in. I think it's something that's changed every cell in my body. I'm much more comfortable being in a place of nurturing than I was [when I was being] warrior woman out there! Sometimes it's a very lonely place to be. And it can be very competitive. Yes, I'm a lioness, and I'm a hunter for ideas, but at the same time, I love being a nurturer and maybe being a mom made me realize how important that is in my life. TMR: How did you come up with the themes in "Scarlet's Walk"? AMOS: I was on tour at the end of September 2001 and being out there with these people that were opening their hearts up, and [people's] masks went down. It was almost as if skin was peeled off, and you were seeing people for the first time and maybe they were seeing each other for the first time. I think relationships were being formed very rapidly. The story started to shape itself [around] this woman who's taking a walk, trying to find out what she believes in and who this creature we call America really is. TMR: And is Scarlet an alter ego? AMOS: I guess she is an alter ego, but she's also any woman. She bleeds, she's a threat, and through her eyes she's seeing how she feels about herself as a woman, her responsibility maybe to her true mother, which is her country. All the songs are based on real people and real events put in a story form. TMR: What influenced you musically for this album? AMOS: I was kind of studying all the great '70s records for this album. It's patterned more after classic song structure -- Fleetwood Mac's "Rumors," Neil Young's "Harvest." I think that I was trying to just immerse myself in the way things were recorded. It was a real craftsmanship. ... It's very hand done. Handmade. And so we approached it like that. TMR: What are your thoughts on the current crop of female singer-songwriters? Vanessa Carlton often gets called "the new Tori!" AMOS: Avril Lavigne, Vanessa Carlton, Michelle Branch and Norah Jones. ... It's just thrilling to know that the torch is being passed, and that's what this is about. A generation of songwriters can go out in the jungle and make a path that wasn't there before. You make a little bit more of a path with your machete, and they can walk through it and then decide, "No, this is my own now, and now I need to carve my own path." TMR: What do you have planned for the future? AMOS: I have done the sonic novel. I am now getting seduced by the musical theater concept, maybe writing something. I don't know. Tim Rice said something to me once that has got me thinking. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 15:57:24 -0500 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> To: precious-things@smoe.org, rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Re: cnn article >AMOS: I have done the sonic novel. I am now getting seduced by the musical theater concept, maybe writing something. I don't know. Tim Rice said something to me once that has got me thinking.< AHH!! SWEET!!!! (howdy everybody.. yes, I'm still alive. ^^ I know, I know, you're disappointed, I'm sure. ;) ) If she acts on that, I am SO totally gonna see it or SOMETHING! O_O Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ -- http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/368/ciara_blaze.html -- http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ -- http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ -- http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=kittitude Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do. Not. Describe. Myself." ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 15:04:59 +0000 From: "John Kwiatkowski" <rattlespark@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: VD Present for my boy Thanks for the welcome backs everyone :) I just got done listening to a tori cd that I burned. It started as a thread on the dent forumz about making a cd to represent a month in your life and this is the one i made. 1. All The Girls Hate Her 2. Pretty Good Year 3. New Age 4/5. Never Seen Blue/Sugar (from the Goddess Boot) 6. Concertina (Fiercest Mix) 7. Jackie's Strength 8. Merman 9. Thank You 10. A Sorta Fairytale 11. Ode To The Banana King 12. Another Girl's Paradise 13. Time 14. Datura 15. Gold Dust 16. Over It Mine's kind of a "falling in love for the first time in a long time" type thing. The whole thing has been my own "sorta fairytale" and it was about "time time time that I love" So, I decided that I'm going to make my boyfriend a copy and give it to him for Valentine's Day. He's kinda liking Tori, of course he doesn't have that much choice since I've been listening to her a whole lot lately :) take care all, john *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Being kidnapped means always having to say you're sorry - Patty Hearst Blog: http://www.xanga.com/venusunfolding *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 21:56:44 -0800 (PST) From: Succubus Megan <Abulia@imaterrorist.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: read my story! Hola chicas and chicos! I wrote a new story! It's about a mermaid who was forced to be the 'bride' of a fisherman after he steals her skin! And she has kids! Then she has revenge! Read it! Review it! Worship it's sweet glory! http://www.fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=1190934 How Now, Brown Cow? Megan Christine Auffart *************************************** "I like money better than people. People can so rarely be exchanged for goods and/or services!" - Buffy the Vampire Slayer *************************************** http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/abulia/ _____________________________________________________________ Sign up for FREE insane email from tshirthell.com's E-Mail Hell at http://www.tshirthell.com _____________________________________________________________ Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get you@yourchoice.com w/No Ads, 6MB, POP & more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 11:51:18 -0800 (PST) From: Teunis Peters <winterlion@greycloaklabs.ca> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Re: RDT Right Now #1789 on Jim Mathers' comment: > So just what are you? Is our persona working? Just what is your real > person? After all of your Christmas presents promising a new you (persona), > has your persona changed? More questions for you to answer. I am not my father. I am not a pacifist - and I am not a woodworker. I'd like to have anywhere near half his skill actually. Put him, my little brother and myself in a room and leave us alone - and we'll probably all come out with some kind of new invention. We ARE similar. My younger brother is like my mother's father actually... he thinks quite different.... and has ended up quite a different person. My father is touring through Europe right now looking at how violins are made there - to open a shop here. He's been making them for a while but is thinking of moving into that as a business. In addition to being a schoolteacher at a Waldorf school. I can't admit we're not similar. But we're travelling down remarkably different life paths. We talk a lot these days - I didn't see him much from when I was 8 'til about umm last year. Change happens, and we've both learned different wisdoms - to the extent we both learn from eachother. I would be proud to be like my father (except for the bit about falling out of love all the time. He thinks he's figured out why and is learning how to deal with it but it still is different). But I've never been there so what do I know. Now - complete topic jump. First a comment: All of these statements are my -opinions- at this time. Some have some basis in reality, but most are just guesses. On Sadam Hussein <sp?>, Iraq, and the terrorist state of the US: - Sadam -is- a dictator. Not a nice one at all. (unlike, say, US president FDR :) - I suspect he has none of the weapons the US is claiming - and while I'll admit given the chance he'd probably expand his borders and attack his neighbours - the US really has no business involving themselves there. - Whether or not they have weapons is largely irrelevant. Almost all their neighbours -do-. And most of their neighbours are probably nuclear capable. I don't get this situation at all. - They -may- be hosting that US-created terrorist group that originated in Afghanistan. Or they may not. Or they may contain some along with many other countries in the world. THAT is an entirely different situation - and Bush's current approach will NOT help him solve that one. - The war Bush wants -will- be a mistake. I suspect that ties between the US and the rest of the world will weaken - and that to leave (or enter) the US will get a lot harder. The only other thing I suspect is that it'll probably cause a depression in the US sometime (near) in the future. - The UN, no matter their unpopularity in some places - are still a really good idea. I hope they solve this - or at least create more unity in the friendly powers. - any country that willfully invades others, continuously breaks agreements, sends brute squads and threats to other countries is DEFINITELY a terrorist nation - in the sense that they beget terror. The US does all of these. That's other than providing weapons of mass (and small) destruction and mercenaries to most of the world. I'd like to see some hope that things in the world are going to improve. Or even just here where I live. I'd like to see a future where I (or my decendands should I have any) aren't going to lose home, land, or freedom from invasion. Say - from the US. I'd like to have some kind of satisfying work to do (unlike now where all jobs and resources are being taken away by the US). And now there's threats to add all kind of invasive montoring and tracking - and threats to destroy public and private property laws here - all to make the US happy. *sigh* Augh who knows. But I do think the whole Iraq thing is and will be a terrible mistake. Nobody likes a bully. Signing off for now - Winterlion -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 13:44:06 -0600 From: "Julie H." <julieh214@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Director's Chair 2/11/03 1:38 pm Ok, so this is a little game called Director's Chair. What you do is you think of all the songs Tori's ever written or covered that hasn't been a music video and think up ideas for a music video and describe it. So, these aren't options: Crucify, Silent All These Years, Winter, China, Pretty Good Year, God, Past The Mission, Cornflake Girl, Professional Widow, Caught A Lite Sneeze, Talula, Hey Jupiter, Spark, Raspberry Swirl, Jackie's Strength, Bliss, Glory Of The '80s, 1,000 Oceans, StrangeLittleGirl, and A Sorta Fairytale "Taxi Ride" is going to be the next single from Scarlet's Walk and I heard that "Crazy" is after that. So you can come up with ideas for that and see if it's similar. I will post my ideas in a little bit... Current mood: Happy Current sounds/music: "Siren" by Tori Amos Current place: My family room Julie H. E-mail & MSN IM: JulieH214@hotmail.com MTV Member: JulieH214 AOL IM: JulieH0214 Yahoo! IM: Juls21487 _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 14:18:01 -0600 From: "Julie H." <julieh214@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: I can't do it... 2/11/03 2:16 pm I started doing that director's chair thing and I got totally stuck by the first one. I seriously cannot come up with ideas for her music videos because her lyrics is so complex to put into story form. I hope you all can come up with some I can read from. sorry Current mood: Cold Current sounds/music: "Hey Jupiter" (Dakota remix) by Tori Amos Current place: My family room _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 14:02:30 -0800 (PST) From: Teunis Peters <winterlion@greycloaklabs.ca> To: "RDT Right Now [yes yes :]" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: more randomness of course the most burning question of the day is: What flavour is music? I'm thinking "purple" myself *g* Life's pretty bizarre lately. Actually the US-caused (sorry - stupid politician-caused) depression in the area I live in hasn't affected me -terribly- badly - any more than normal anyways. The city I live in (Vancouver) hasn't been hit TOO hard, but most of the rest of the province has. But who knows. Apparently things are recovering now that companies have come up with new and novel ways to fight the US (illegal) tarrifs <sp>. Maybe things'll improve soon. I hope so - I like this place :) Anyways on other notes been exploring a lot innerspace. I keep meaning to pick up Tori's newest but I've been -terribly- poor - for a number of reasons, moving not the least *wry grin*. So every now and again I'll post another odd thinkspace thing. Lately I've been thinking a great deal about gender issues. Mostly personal ones. I mean, physically I'm a guy. I'd like to mentally be one too - mentally I'm 'something else'. but that's a boggle that's hard to explain, although this is kind of a neat list (sometimes) for exploring the deeper questions... though on "American Gods" I think I'm a fan of the old ones still being around. Those modern ideals are pretty bizarre. But hey, if coyote were waltzing down MY street I think I'd stop and see if he wanted to share a story or something. But I'm in Raven's country so... Anyone read "Charles de Lint" or listen to his music here? (I've never heard his music... pity) G'day, eh? :) - Winterlion -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 02:11:52 +0100 From: "manu pradel" <mpradel@libertysurf.fr> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: hello 12.02.03 01:52 AM Salutations to the World in general, and to you, really deep thinkers, in particular. ( Excuse me for what i will write, english isn't my mother tongue ) I'm a new one here. I'm 25. I'm french. I'm a student in archeology. I experienced my first Tori concert a week ago, and it's incredible. I lived with her music and Neil Gaiman's writings for almost 10 years and my look on it in had changed in 4 hours. It's a fantastic sensation. So, i'm re-reading Sandman listening Little Earthquakes Bethany, i want to congratulate you, for some reasons: First of all, Hedwige and the Angry Inch is a wonderful movie, probably the best musical i've seen ( and i think i've seen a lot ) ( except Scarlet's Walk ( i will come back to this later ) ( i like brackets ) ). Second, about scarlet's walk as a musical ( and a road movie also ), i absolutely agree with you, and it's the best musical ever made because there's just some pictures proposed to go with, so imagination is attracted, but can make totally hers the world described. I think it will be a deception ( or not ? maybe i work too much with my brain and too less with my heart ) to make a movie with it. But, anyway, a project with Tori Amos and Neil Gaiman together couldn't be anything else than Incredibly Wonderful and Insanely Fascinating. Third, your grades are really good and it's a very good thing that you practice Ceramics. As a student in archeology, there's not a day in which i don't curse myself ( not for real, anyway ) for not studying it. And it's the best activity i've made to let the dreams and the thoughts inside my head go out and comprehend the world ( see what i mean ? ). Is the " with that, she was gone" a reference to Usual Suspects ? I experienced an Anti-Gold Dust about 2 monthes ago, and it's a real disturbing thing. About 7 years ago, i was a young boy with problems. I won't enter the details but i was between people i really care, and who were and are fantastics persons i really loved. And i'm gone. I was living in Marseille, in the south of France. I moved house in another city, without letting adresses. And 7 years passed. About 2 monthes ago, i met a good friend of this era at role-playing games convention, and we decided to see us again. I was increfibly ahppy, and i hardly think about anything else, waiting the time of our rendez-vous. The day came, and nothing: it was a real pleasure to talk to her again, i learned news from the others, but i feeled ( and her also, i think ) that time had passed and the dreamy mood of our relations just doesn't exist anymore. I'm gonna see her, and the others also i think, but there's no impatience. Anyway, it's not so sad, just a pity. But we have memories, and maybe it can influence us, and we have the imagination harmless, and that's a fantastic thing, and we have art. Good bye, Manuel -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 23:42:24 -0500 From: iTard <woj@smoe.org> To: torinews@smoe.org, ustour@torithoughts.org Cc: fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>, rdtrn@torithoughts.org, tori-amos@yahoogroups.com, toriphery@groups.msn.com Subject: this week's tori presales fanscape has posted <url: http://www2.fanscape.com/toriamos/tour/ > the presale dates and times for this week's presales: march 23 - brady theatre, tulsa, ok * presale starts 10am thursday, february 13th april 2 - rushmore theatre, rapid city, sd * presale starts 10am wednesday, february 12th * https://www07.hway.net/gotmin/scarlet.htm april 8 - spokane opera house, spokane, wa * presale starts 10am wednesday, february 12th * http://www.ticketswest.com/TW/Show.asp?EC=EOAMOS no presale link is available for the tulsa show yet. the brady theatre sells their tickets through startickets.com, so there should be a page for this show there by thursday morning. the presale password should be mailed to the toriamos.com mailing list this evening sometime. to make sure you're on the mailing list, fill out the form at http://www.toriamos.com/email.html (i suggest joining the text version of the list since the html version may be filtered as spam by some isp and mail providers). woj -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 06:36:39 +0000 From: "Madame Ade" <alexandriasisp@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: squiggles hi all! woohoo, megan (the barbie with a secret succubus career) and i are going to see tori in march! *dances happily* i just saw "amelie" tonight. super movie. so fun! i'm going to play dungeons and dragons for the first time! i named my character "arditiarenne," or "ren" for short. yes, my internet life really does influence me this much. *shrug* 2 essays due tomorrow... yikes... -ade *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* http://www.geocities.com/blupyglet http://www.livejournal.com/~agentfroot *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 03:05:53 -0500 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Frankie Say Relaaaaax! Okay.. I've been slapped down with what seems to be a relapsed cold. I'm just now managing to get over it.. AGAIN.. let's pray that I actually stay not-sick this time.. o_O This post from me is gonna be short and sweet cuz it's 3 in the morning and I'm supposed to be in bed as of three hours ago. :P~~~ but firstly, happy (belated and not so belated) birthday to Mikewhy, Jana K, Brian T, Lavs, and Victoria. Hope they were delicious! :) okay, having said that, I feel a LITTLE better. I didn't use to lurk like this.. nor will I ever become a full-fledged lurker.. :P EVER. either way though, I am alive, thankfully, and I'll reply to some RDTRN's when I've got all my health back. :P~~~~~~ much love and lubricants! Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ -- http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/368/ciara_blaze.html -- http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ -- http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ -- http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=kittitude Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do. Not. Describe. Myself." ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 08:57:55 -0500 From: iTard <woj@smoe.org> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Fwd: Tulsa listing (finally) thank you david! Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 07:30:45 -0500 From: David Mobley <dmobley@fastmail.fm> Subject: Tulsa listing (finally) http://premier.startickets.com/StarTickets/pipeline/ticketselect.asp?nt=BRD23MAR 03&sc=BRD23MAR03 obviously not on sale yet, but it's nice to see that the venue's site agrees with fanscape at least. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 18:03:44 -0500 From: Jim <jimphynn@mindspring.com> To: 52ndst@yahoogroups.com, RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Letter to the Editor -- First draft Any comments on this first draft would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Jim Saddam Hussein is a brutal dictator. His cruel hand and megalomaniacal attempts to grab power have both directly and indirectly impoverished his country. (Directly, by funding projects that benefit no one other than himself, and indirectly, by continuing a policy whereby the international community, led by the United Nations and the United States, have imposed harsh sanctions on Iraq.) There is little doubt that Iraq, at least, and the world at large, would be better off without him. Comparisons between Hussein and Adolf Hitler fall short largely because Hussein is the cause of many of his country's economic woes. Hitler rose to power as a result of similar economic hard times. Hussein's overall sphere of influence is much smaller than Hitler's was. This is evidenced by the general lack of respect he commands outside of the borders of his country. Say what you will about Hitler: he had a large number of sympathizers in just about every country he invaded, partially enabling him to take over Poland, Austria, and France. If the recent tape purporting to be from Osama Bin Laden is genuine, Hussein is even held in contempt by someone who would have more to gain than lose in an alliance. There is no question that Saddam Hussein is dangerous. I believe, however, that President George W. Bush is even more dangerous. Mr. Bush has stated that he will proactively go in to Iraq, even if that action is in defiance of United Nations wishes, because Iraq has defied United Nations wishes. Some or our strongest allies have expressed serious misgivings about any plan to topple Hussein's regime. The White House has alternately belittled those misgivings and the nations expressing them, and pointed to the voluminous lies and misrepresentations of facts coming out of Baghdad, ignoring the comparably voluminous lies and misrepresentations coming out of Washington. And even though Hussein is dangerous, Mr. Bush has yet to make any compelling, non-speculative argument, that it is in our interest to aggressively depose him. Now Mr. Bush's defiance of international opinion has put NATO in a precarious situation. On one hand, you have the genuine misgivings of some of our NATO allies for a US-led offensive. On the other hand, you have the legitimate concern for the safety of another one of our NATO allies. This is quite a Catch-22 for our allies: oppose our actions and cause instability in Turkey, or support our actions and be willing to protect Turkey. It is unreasonable for anyone both to oppose our actions and to protect Turkey. All of this is the direct result of the heavy-handed and contemptible actions of President Bush. He is about to overthrow an otherwise sovereign government and cause a rift within NATO that could ultimately destroy the alliance. All of this time, we have no declared exit strategy from Iraq, where any new fledgling government would be subject to a greater economic burden than Germany had when Hitler rose to power. With Hitler in power, there was an unlikely and tenuous alliance between the Soviet Union and the United States, allied against a common enemy. With Bush in power, we may be watching the formation of an unlikely and tenuous alliance between Iraq and the al-Qaeda network, allied against a common enemy. Please do not think I am trying to compare Adolf Hitler with George W. Bush. Hitler was a democratically elected politician who brought his country out of an economic depression. Bush is a judicially appointed politician who is driving his country into an economic depression. -- Jim Goldman jimphynn@mindspring.com ICQ: 6380342 www.mindspring.com/~jimphynn ---------------------------------------------------------------- "I've been looking through a stained-glass window / I've been building a tower of dreams / In my eagerness to climb that rainbow / I discovered what America means." -- Karen Kosowski, "Stained Glass Window" -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 17:12:12 -0600 From: Megan Sackett <MSackett@machalek.com> To: "'rdtrn@torithoughts.org'" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Just checking in Violet - you had me cracking up with your description of the Bertie Bott's beans. I was laughing so hard by myself in my office. That's okay, they all think I am crazy here anyways. I have been walking around singing a dirty song all afternoon on accident because I have it stuck in my head. Anyways, you may not be evil enough to put some out in a candy dish for unsuspecting victims to eat, but I am. I am going to order some and have a dish full at my apartment and in my office. HAHAHA!!! Wee! Yes, I am a little behind! Thanks to all who sent me birthday greetings (a month ago). I am now 24. Boring! Next year, I will be able to rent a car without a young driver fee. Yay! I am looking forward to Valentines Day this year for the first time ever. I have the coolest date planned. My son and I are going to see Jungle Book 2. He is going to draw me a picture of chocolate and flowers. He is too sweet! Tori is going to be in Minnesota on March 30th and I am not going. I have never missed a Tori concert. I am pretending it doesn't count since Duluth is 2 1/2 hours away from me. My friend pleaded guilty to criminal vehicular manslaughter for the accident so it won't be going to trial. He can go for a downward sentence this way, as opposed to the upward sentence the prosecution was going to go for if it went to trial. His sentencing is scheduled for April 14th. I have to go out and start my car to let it warm up for 20 minutes before I leave work. There is a -30 wind chill today. BRRR!!! I am so looking forward to spring. My car is so dirty, but I can't get it washed or it will freeze shut. Gotta love Minnesota! Megan Sackett Office Manager Machalek Communications, Inc mailto:msackett@machalek.com www.machalek.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 20:31:41 -0500 From: "J. Mathers" <jmathers@westol.com> To: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?It's_All_in_the_Name?= This week I had the following paragraph in my article on persona: "Last weekend I visited my daughter and to my horrors discovered my mother-in-law was recreated again into another generation. I spent a weekend with two mother-in-laws. 30 years from now I am sure another generation of my mother-in-law will exist. Judy is expecting in March was in the hospital with high blood pressure just like her mother was a generation before." Moran Faye was born today in Rochester, NY and I am a grandfather. Morgan was born on my mother-in-laws birthday and my mother-in-law's name was Faye. Enough said on that. I am a very happy man. Jim Mathers jmathers@westol.com o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o *** Scabs ... The Other Red Meat digest *** To POST messages to this list: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Can't figure out how to SUB, UNSUB, or CHANGE ADDRESSES? Send a message to <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "help" as the subject. Digest PROBLEMS or QUESTIONS? Contact: <admin@torithoughts.org> Want your BIRTHDAY announced on RDTRN in 2003? 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