RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #1793

RDT Right Now #1793

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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 03:14:19 -0800
Subject: RDT Right Now #1793
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O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o yay [ "Madame Ade" <alexandriasisp@hotmai ] Director's Chair idea for Hey Jupite [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ] Paranoia [ Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net. ] tori in sacramento/san jose on clear [ noam tchotchke <woj@smoe.org> ] Mmmm....Sour jacks [ Megan Sackett <MSackett@machalek.co ] Peace Movement [ Brad Shultz <springhaze@comcast.net ] Walt Disney [ "John Kwiatkowski" <rattlespark@hot ] The Disney Thing [ "John Kwiatkowski" <rattlespark@hot ] tori in colorado and california [ noam tchotchke <woj@smoe.org> ] [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] day off To read more about these items, visit the list archives. [ ================================================================== ] Today's fuzzy ferret assistant: Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 03:54:43 +0000 From: "Madame Ade" <alexandriasisp@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: yay cyndi just sent me all the y kant tori read songs (thanks, dearie! you rock!), and i heard "etienne" for the first time. gosh, that song is beautiful. i keep thinking she's singing "adrienne" (my real name), but i guess that's just wishful thinking. anyway, we were discussing ideas for tori videos, and i came up with one for "amber waves." it begins with amber (a middle-aged, beautiful woman in a muumuu) in her trailer park, sitting alone on a couch, looking through some old porn magazines with her former self in them. tori rings the doorbell because she's visiting, she brings cookies, they hug, and they sit down to chat and have tea. the music begins, and amber shows tori the pictures. there's a flashback to when amber was tori's babysitter and tori watches her fix her makeup and amber gives tori a bit of a makeover. they look in the mirror together, and then it fades to the present. amber stands in front of a mirror and looks at herself sadly. she has some wrinkles, her hair is color-damaged, and she's getting chubbier and saggier. tori gives her a hug, and they go outside. they walk through a field, and tori takes amber's hand. together they lift off the ground and fly high into the sky, and as the music ends, you can hear amber laughing off in the distance. that's an idea anyway. *squeals* one more month until the pittsburgh tori concert! -ade *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* http://www.geocities.com/blupyglet http://www.livejournal.com/~agentfroot *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 02:54:48 -0500 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Director's Chair idea for Hey Jupiter alooooooooHA, mon amigos! Thanks to Ade's help (thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you!!), I've come up with a faboo video idea.. it's for Hey Jupiter--but not the Dakota version--it's for the original album cut. Anyway.. here it is.. I've got LOTS more ideas to follow.. as soon as I get 'em allllll typed out. :) Hey Jupiter (ORIGINAL version--not the Dakota version) video idea: This takes place maybe a few hours before the Dakota Version does.. it takes place on the same day at the very least. For the VERY beginning.. before the music starts.. we see from the angle of the little girl that rescues Tori in the Dakota version, and we see Tori storming into the apartment complex, looking rather pissed off, and you can hear her shoes pounding the floor, sounding with a kind of a haunted echo. Tori stops for a moment and then takes a step around the little girl.. and the girl looks up at her and keeps her eyes on her from when she first walks in until she gets into her apartment. As Tori passes the girl, she looks at her for a second but then turns back and continues walking to her apartment, clearly hurt and very angry. When Tori looks at the girl and kinda pauses in her walking, it cuts back to the girl and then back to Tori as she turns back, more or less trying NOT to break down and bawl. and then she slams her door shut. When the door slams, we see a shot of the girl looking concerned and worried, giving the hint that the girl had at least an idea that Tori was going through some trouble of some kind. Then we see Tori inside her apartment, throwing her coat off and onto the floor, and the music starts. After throwing her coat off, she kinda falls against the entrance door, not falling to the floor, but definitely leaning on the door for support, leans over a little, puts her hands on her face. She's obviously exasperated, about to cry and forcefully trying to fight it off, and then she pulls herself together, runs her fingers through her hair, takes a deep breath, and starts singing. She's obviously very frustrated, and she's on the phone, trying to get someone (obviously her ex) to answer, and then she hangs up and wanders around her apartment, seeing pictures of her and her ex, stuff like that all around. Every time she goes "Hey Jupiter" or "Hoooo.." things that have to do with her ex (such as pictures, teddy bears, cards, flowers, other gifts, and the bed..) catch on fire. She just looks at each of the burning objects (if it's in her view) kinda sadly, expecting its burning up to happen, but she wishes it wouldn't, although she knows it's gonna have to happen anyway since the relationship is over. When smoke is starting to really form and pour through the cracks in the door of her apartment, the little girl in the hallway looks up, obviously smelling something burning, and drops everything, running to get help from an adult. When she can't get any help, she runs and searches for a fire alarm to pull. Finding one being *JUST* out of her reach, she jumps a few times, trying to grab and pull it, and is finally successful. The alarm sends everybody running out of their homes, some with as much as they can carry, others with nothing but the clothes on their back, into the cold outdoors. The little girl stands at the entrance, watching carefully for Tori. Meanwhile, during the 2nd bridge of "Hoooo.."'s, Tori goes from wandering around in her apartment to her piano which is also in flames due to the other burning objects that were set on it. This continues for a bit and we cut back to the little girl, still watching for Tori, and obviously getting more and more concerned as all the people crowd around the apartment and there is still no sign of Tori. When the intensity of the song calms down again, we see Tori going from her piano to her rocking chair that we see her in during the Dakota version of the song, and we fade to the little girl finally running back into the apartment and down the hall to rescue Tori. As Tori sings the very last "Hey Jupiter", we see her wearily sit down and observe everything happening around her, numb, and then we finally fade out. Well there ya have it, folks.. now it's YOUR turn. :D Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ -- http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/368/ciara_blaze.html -- http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ -- http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ -- http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=kittitude Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do. Not. Describe. Myself." ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:18:46 +1100 From: Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net.au> To: Really Deep Thrusts Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Paranoia Happy birthday way back to when Brian T. had his. Sparkling name that and may I say a very good age as well. Bethey wrote way back in #1789: > Pot gets you high and makes you blow things off, but apparently it also > makes you think really deep thoughts. It certainly does, but it can make you intensely paranoid as well. I'm not going to get on any soapbox and say do or don't smoke dope. I've inhaled enough of it over the years but largely choose not to. What I will say is that what works for one person is not necessarily the right thing for another. Teunis - you live in Vancouver? I always thought you lived out in the frozen wastelands of some mining town. If you were there last August I would have looked you up. Cyndi wrote in #1790: > much love and lubricants! That one's way too easy. LOL Jessica wrote in #1791: >is anyone fucking sick of hearing about duct tape and how americans are >supposedly all living in fear and... >the media is making me paranoid and i know it's partially my own fault. I wish I had shares in a company that makes duct tape. While watching the media is your fault, they are the ones to blame for mass hysteria. Having been in your country in October 2001 and last August, it's easy to understand why people are living in fear. I saw enough news shows to make me want to turn the TV off permanently. It's the constant bombardment of terror alerts and if it wasn't about the "War on Terror", it was about the impending war on Iraq. I can't help but think that U.S. government spin doctors are having their way with the media. The same thing has been going on here for months, ever since the bombing in Bali. While 88 Australians died there, the terrorists themselves have since admitted they were targeting Americans. Had they actually talked to their potential victims, they would have realized it was a bad target and walked away. To give some perspective, Bali is to Australia like Cancun is to the U.S. While it was a personal attack on our people, it was not an attack on Australian soil, which our government seems keen to make out otherwise. Last November, we got our first security alert, which was to put the country in a state of "heightened alert" and that something unspecified was to happen before Christmas. What did it do? It made people scared, just like I'd seen in the U.S. months before. Ok, sure the government was getting a lot of flak over not saying anything about possible risks in Bali, but you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. Personally I find ignorance is bliss. Of course, thankfully, nothing happened, so once the new year had passed by a couple of weeks, they declared the state of heightened alert could last for years. Why bother having one then? It gives little room to move. Anyway, a few weeks after the alert, an ad campaign started up with the slogan, "Be alert, but not alarmed". Great, you've already gone and scared half the country, lets make sure to scare the other half. Just when you've almost forgotten it, we'll send you a booklet and a fridge magnet so you can always be reminded of this state of insanity. Terrorists have won. They have governments terrorizing their own people, when really what they should be doing is going about the business of national security quietly, but visibly. But it is one tool the spin doctors are using to justify having a war. That's all I have to say about this particular subject, but I'll probably have something to say on related ones. Brian -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:47:36 -0500 From: noam tchotchke <woj@smoe.org> To: torinews@smoe.org, ustour@torithoughts.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>, rdtrn@torithoughts.org, toriphery@groups.msn.com, tori-amos@yahoogroups.com Subject: tori in sacramento/san jose on clear channel <url: http://cc.com/detail.asp?eventID=57556 > Tori Amos San Jose Center for the Performing Arts San Jose, CA April 12, 2003 - 8:00PM Pacific Doors open 7:00PM On sale February 22, 2003 - 10:00AM Reserved : $ 42.50 Ticket prices include $.35 for local charity <url: http://cc.com/detail.asp?eventID=57557 > Tori Amos Sacramento Memorial Auditorium Sacramento, CA April 13, 2003 - 7:30PM Pacific Doors open 6:30PM On sale February 22, 2003 - 10:00AM Reserved : $ 35.00 Ticket prices include $.35 for local charity -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:24:05 -0600 From: Megan Sackett <MSackett@machalek.com> To: "'rdtrn@torithoughts.org'" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Mmmm....Sour jacks I just heard Johnny Cash's version of Hurt last week and I love it! Who would have ever thought Johnny Cash would be covering NIN? Funny! I also heard his cover of U2's One. I didn't like that one, though. Too monotone and creepy sounding. As far as this whole thing about going to war, I can't even stand to hear about it anymore. I am interested in politics and what is going on in my world, but have found myself watching Simpson reruns rather than the news. The media coverage of everything is such bullshit. They will talk about the same things over and over, but leave out all the little things people don't know and should. Plastic and duct tape? Forget it! Covering my windows and air vents with plastic doesn't sound very safe to me. If we're gonna go, we're gonna go. I won't run out and cause a big freak out drama over all this shit. I wonder how many people have given themselves heart attacks worrying about being bombed. Seems a little silly, doesn't it? Valentines Day was awesome. I had so much fun with my son. I bought him a big heart balloon that said I love you and a chocolate toad with a gummy bug inside it and a dozen roses. We went and saw Jungle Book 2 with my sister and neice. Then, I had 2 ex-boyfriends calling me wanting to come over. I told them it was mine and Tanner's night and nobody else was allowed. Like I want to hang out with an ex-boyfriend on V-Day. I need opinions. My ex-husband has a girlfriend that he has been living with for a year or so now. I have never been mean to her or even gotten bitchy with her (except a little when she tried to keep my son on Mothers Day). I have never minded or had a problem with her. I figure, as far as women in my son's life, she is not a bad choice. Then, yesterday, my son called me from his dad's house and wanted to come home early. I told him what time I was going to be home and said he could come home then. She then told him to get off the phone with me. he said, "I want to talk to my mommy still." She said, "you're done, give me that" and hung up the phone. Who the fuck does she think she is?!?! I can't talk to her about it because my ex makes sure that we never come in contact with each other. I feel this is a problem that I need to deal with, but am not quite sure how to go about it. I have tried to be cool to her for 2 years now just to hear that she talks shit about me to my son constantly. I am between a rock and a hard place. I don't want my son around her, but won't come between him and his dad. HELP!!! I have had such awesome kharma and positive energy lately and don't want to let these people ruin that. Megan Sackett Office Manager Machalek Communications, Inc mailto:msackett@machalek.com www.machalek.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:46:36 +0000 From: Brad Shultz <springhaze@comcast.net> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Peace Movement EDITORIAL: THE PEACE MOVEMENT ISN'T ABOUT PEACE By David Horowitz <http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/authors.asp?ID=4> FrontPageMagazine.com <http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=5619> | January 21, 2003 The "Peace" Movement Isn't About Peace& Its about carrying on the lefts war against America. When your country is attacked, when the enemy has targeted every American regardless of race, gender or age for death, there can be no "peace" movement. There can only be a movement that divides Americans and gives aid and comfort to our enemies. In his speech to Congress after 9/11, the President said: "We have seen their kind before. They are the heirs of all the murderous ideologies of the 20th Century. By sacrificing human life to serve their radical visions, by abandoning every value except the will to power, they follow in the path of fascism, Nazism and totalitarianism." The so-called "peace movement" today is led by the same hate-America radicals who supported Americas totalitarian enemies during the Cold War. They marched in support of the Vietcong, the Sandinista Marxists and the Communist guerrillas in El Salvador. Before that they marched in behalf of Stalin and Mao. They still support Castro and the nuclear lunatic in North Korea, Kim Jong-Il. They are the friends in deed of Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. What prompts American radicals to make common cause with such monsters? The answer is obvious: They share a common view of America as the "Great Satan." They believe that it is America not tyrants like Saddam Hussein that inflicts misery and suffering on the world. The targets of the 9/11 terrorists were Wall Street and the Pentagon. These were the targets of American radicals long before. In the perverse minds of the so-called "peace" radicals, America is the "root cause" of all the root causes that inspire the terrorists to attack us. "America is to blame for what is wrong in the world. The enemy is us." Today, as we battle the Axis of Evil which threatens us with weapons of mass destruction, these familiar mantras are rising on college campuses from coast to coast. Just as they did in the Cold War past. During the Cold War, the radical "peace" movement bullied right-thinking Americans into silence. Our government lost the ability to stay the course in the anti-Communist war. The result was the Communist slaughter of two-and-a-half million peasants in Indo-China after the divisions at home forced America to leave. Once again, the hate America left is attempting to silence right-thinking citizens. It is attempting to divide the home front in the face of the enemy. Even as we go to war. It is stabbing our young men and women in the back even as they step into harms way to defend us. It is attempting to paralyze our government again and prevent it from securing the peace. We cant afford to let this happen. The time has come for those who love freedom and who appreciate the great bounties of this nation to stand up and be counted. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 01:02:42 +0000 From: "John Kwiatkowski" <rattlespark@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Walt Disney "(did you know that walt disney had himself preserved in some aqueous solution just in case they figure out how to make him breathe again? actually, i think were he to awaken to the hell his company has become, he might ask to be shot.)" Actually, that's not true. It's an urban legend. MTV did a special (hosted by the most wonderful Ms. Allyson Hannigan) called the Big Urban Myth Show and that was actually one of the ones they explored. He's buried in a grave just like everyone else. He actually died a year or two before any of that technology was being utilized. John Kwiatkowski blog: http://ww.xanga.com/venusunfolding _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 01:52:32 +0000 From: "John Kwiatkowski" <rattlespark@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: The Disney Thing here's a link with more info about it http://www.snopes.com/disney/waltdisn/frozen.htm _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:43:03 -0500 From: noam tchotchke <woj@smoe.org> To: torinews@smoe.org, ustour@torithoughts.org Cc: fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>, rdtrn@torithoughts.org, toriphery@groups.msn.com, tori-amos@yahoogroups.com Subject: tori in colorado and california thanks to halo eighteen on the forumz for pointing this out <url: http://209.123.85.43/showthread.php?s=&threadid=178918 >. according to rhett miller's website <url: http://www.rhettmiller.com/ >, who has been confirmed as opening many of the shows on the second north american leg of tori's tour, here are a few more probable dates for the tour: april 4 - dobson arena, vail, co april 18 - arlington theater, santa barbara, ca april 19 - theatre at arrowhead pond, anaheim, ca the dobson arena confirms the april 4th date on their concert calendar <url: http://www.vailrec.com/venues/dobson-arena/special_events/concert_schedule.html >, but the other shows are not confirmed anywhere yet. there has been mention of the anaheim show on star 98.7 in los angeles, so that seems pretty likely though. woj o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o *** Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, War Sucks digest *** To POST messages to this list: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Can't figure out how to SUB, UNSUB, or CHANGE ADDRESSES? 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