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Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 03 : Issue #1806
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Tori Amos, "Thoughts"
In this issue:
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Peace [ Brad Shultz <springhaze@comcast.net ]
looking for a savior in these dirty [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ]
typical lib [ Erika & Alan <alewis246@comcast.net ]
my letter to the war fighters. [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ]
RE: Imagine... [ Roxanne Rieske <rokzane@dimensional ]
RE: Let's play nice [ Roxanne Rieske <rokzane@dimensional ]
The cow cup [ Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.de ]
What medicine can do... [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ]
Yes, those ARE mushroom clouds over [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ]
Bad Poems [ Brad Shultz <springhaze@comcast.net ]
Good Man [ Brad Shultz <springhaze@comcast.net ]
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 21:05:31 +0000
From: Brad Shultz <springhaze@comcast.net>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: Peace
Oh well--
I have told you of little minds that before you have peace you must have
victory. Learn it live it love it. And gee, I didn't know the average
person was a socialist with no job, a poor writer and a whiner.
tee hee
Brad
out--
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 21:37:53 -0500
From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: looking for a savior in these dirty streets.
Howdy everybody. I might reply to all the piled up RDTRNs in
this, but first I've got to rant, ramble, and whine. This stupid war is
wrecking me. I have NO idea what to do and I'm sitting here, ready to
break down, wondering what to do, and listening to Tori in hopes to keep
my sanity intact.
I don't know if any of you ever read blogs, but I posted a very
very angry one in my blog earlier today. Part of it said: "fuck you,
Bush. FUCK YOU and your stupid, *STUPID* war. I didn't ask for it, and
neither did the rest of the so-called 25% [of the USA] who don't support
the war. FUCK YOU."
I'm sure I sound pretty irrational and unreasonable there,
but.... I'm about to snap. WHAT DO I DO??
Anyway, while you chew on that and, hopefully, think of ways for
all of us to try not to let the war get the best of us, let's get it on
with the replies. :D
firstly, birthday wishes to Jodi and Maryam. I hope they were stellar! :)
John told us of his experience with the NY concerts--sounds like you had
a decent time all in all, eh? ^^
John said in that very bit: "I dozed off during the second encore, which
is not easy to do when your knee is producing stabbing pain."
Ah, the soothingness of Tori's voice. At the Atlanta concert, I
got sleepy. I didn't expect that of myself, but I did.. and my mom said,
when I told her about it, "she must be soothing to you". Indeed, I think
she is. :D
hey Deadra, what's the happy dance of joy? we might wanna learn it.. :D
Bethey did a survey thingy: "Q: How strongly do you feel about change in
the White House in the next election?
A: About as strongly that some NRA nut should take Bush into a back alley
and shoot him."
heh heh.. like I said at the beginning of this email.. I'm
feeling pretty hostile towards the man, myself. ^^
She THEN explained the significance behind March 3, 2003 (other than the
3/3/3 whatever business.)
THEN she said: "I'm finally a professional speaker!"
WOOHOO!!!! and congrats on the commissioned poetry too! :)
Julie: Kudos to you for telling your case manager about that idiot guy at
your school who planned to fuck (or beat up) a girl after getting her
drunk. Good job. (and btw, it's "swollen" just so you know, in case you
were wondering. :) )
Bethey said: "The Beth's are taking over the world."
Better a Beth than a Bush. :D
Jessica posted some signs of spring.. LOVE 'EM! post more! :D
Bethey, thanks for posting that "many faces of Dubya" url.. it made me
laugh out LOUD. loudly at that. THANK YOU!!!
Get well soon (that bruised cartilage), Jessica.. :)
Finally some words from Brad--HIMSELF. :) YAY! :) "Typical lib. She
isn't going to give up her possessions. She wants you to give up yours."
now, I don't know personally, partly cuz I'm too young and also
partly cuz I never.. KNEW.. but what about JOHN LENNON? did he give up
his possessions? He wrote the bloody song. Tori's just covering it to
make a point. She's not for the war.. and nor am I. I'll sing Imagine
with her before cheering Bush on for fucking the country--and the
world--up.
Let's end this on a cheerier note than "WAR WAR WAR".. since talking
about war is something I'm starting to tire out on.. it's stressing me
out.
um..... How did everybody discover Tori? :D let's talk about that now. :D
and on that note, *MWAH!* g'night everybody! *disappears!*
Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford
http://www.icenine.org/cyndi/ --
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/368/ciara_blaze.html --
http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ --
http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/clique.html --
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Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do.
Not. Describe. Myself."
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 23:47:41 -0500
From: Erika & Alan <alewis246@comcast.net>
To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: typical lib
>From: Brad Shultz <springhaze@comcast.net>
*snip*
>Since when is Tori some kind of political science expert? What are her
credentials?
I was unaware that one needed to be an expert in political science to have
an opinion on the validity of a war. Certainly doesn't seem to stop you
from stating your opinion on the subject.
>And when she sang with apparent conviction the line, "imagine no
>possessions; it's easy if you try" with seeming conviction, I turned
>red. So she is going to give up her posessessions? Her houses? Her
>vehicles? Her pots and pans? Her buses? Her Prada diaper bags? This
>is ridiculous in the extreme.
>
>Typical lib. She isn't going to give up her possessions. She wants you
>to give up yours.
If you have issues with her politics as well as her apparent aching to take
away your stuff, perhaps you should have rethought plunking down the cash
for the concert you attended. That money that you spent is the same money
with which she buys her houses, her vehicles, her pots and pans, and yes,
her Prada diaper bag. Perhaps you should put your money where your mouth
is.
Erika
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 12:44:48 -0500
From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: my letter to the war fighters.
Howdy everybody! I feel a lot better today than I did yesterday.. yay!
Beth supplied us with a link to send letters of support to the troops out
in Iraq who are, no doubt, busily kicking ass.. so.. I went. here's my
letter. :)
Dear Army soldiers,
I'm very, VERY much against this war. I find it, personally, a ridiculous
move that the President has made. However, since we can't really do much
more about it, I felt the need to inform you all that you have always had
(and still have) my support. Keep your heads up. It'll be tough, but
you'll succeed. We are all praying for you.
Good luck.
there it is.. heh heh.. ^^
anyway.. Violet showed us her cow mug.. ooooOOOOOOoooooh! I like! where'd
ya get it?? :)
heh heh.. okay.. and that's all I really have to say now. :D
Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford
http://www.icenine.org/cyndi/ --
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/368/ciara_blaze.html --
http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ --
http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/clique.html --
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Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do.
Not. Describe. Myself."
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 13:09:00 -0700
From: Roxanne Rieske <rokzane@dimensional.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: RE: Imagine...
Eric (with a C) wrote:
> Interesting.
>
> So, in the logic of Mr. Bush, once you are done with Iraq, you will send the
> troops a little North to France and Germany?
> Oh wait, further 'research' might lead to finding out that the U.S. were
> quite supportive of Saddam Hussein when he first came to power in Iraq and
> when he provided a welcome counterbalance to the regime in Iran.
> Further research might lead to finding out that the U.S. helped Iraq to get
> some of the (few...) weapons that they are now running into and want them to
> 'disarm'.
Oh Please...I wasn't saying the US had nothing to do with it. Do not
insult my intelligence by assuming that. I was trying to show that
France and Germany were not except from blame either and that France has
a lot more to gain from not having a war than many people realize. The
PMs of these two countries were acting like they had nothing to do with
it from various press conferences I've been watching with the UN
Security Council.
I've said before that I know exactly what the US has done
You go on to say:
> Let's go back to the war situation: You obviously argue that the war is
> justified at this time. Would you honestly have the same opinion, if you
> would have to fight the war yourself? If you would have to go to Iraq and
> risk your own life to liberate the country? Or if you had kids who could get
> killed there? I am interested in your response. Would you accept risking
> your own death in order to actively 'solve' the Iraq situation?
I know this wasn't addressed at me, but YES. I would go and fight if I
could. If I had children, I would cheer them on if they decided to
enlist. Extreme health reasons keep me from enlisting, I wanted to
enlist in the armed forces when I was a senior in highschool, then I had
a serious accident that severely injured me and that dream was dashed to
bits. Disbanding the regime is the morally right thing to do for many
many reasons besides the disarmment issue.
Lots of people aren't willing to risk their own lives in order stand by
their own convictions and beliefs, but I'm not one of them.
Roxanne
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 13:15:02 -0700
From: Roxanne Rieske <rokzane@dimensional.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: RE: Let's play nice
Beth wrote:
> I don't comment about anyone being "ridiculous".
I've alreayd written to Beth in response to her post.
I don't feel inclined to forward my response here.
Roxanne
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 12:43:14 -0800
From: Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.devin.com>
To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: The cow cup
Violet wrote:
> I'd like to live this way, but I don't know if I could because sadly I
> would have to draw the line at sharing my favorite cow coffee mug, which I
> have photographed and put up just to make you all jealous:
> http://www.missviolet.com/flotsam/cowcup/
I just have to add that she also has a cow cream pitcher that looks like
it's barfing anytime you pour milk out of it into your tea. The open well is
in its body, and the spout is its mouth, and the handle is its tail. It's
delightfully fun to use.
And yes, she really does have tellytubbies on her microwave.
Beth
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outspoken women unless they are sexy 22-year-olds killing vampires on
television." -- Dennis Miller
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 16:55:31 -0500
From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com>
To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: What medicine can do...
A British doctor says, "Medicine in my country is so advanced that we
can take a brain out of one man, put it in another and have him looking
for work in six weeks."
A German doctor says, "zat's nothing, Ve can take a brain out of vun
person, put it in another and have him preparing for war in four weeks."
An American doctor, the world's best, says, "Your guys are way behind,
we just took a man with no brain out of Texas, put him in the White
House, and now half the country is looking for work, and the other half
preparing for war."
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 18:01:23 -0500
From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com>
To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: Yes, those ARE mushroom clouds over Baghdad!!!
http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa083102a.htm
US Could Use Limited Nuclear Weapons in Iraq
U.S. forces could use nuclear-tipped "bunker-buster" bombs against buried
terrorist weapons in Iraq, should Congress approve funding to develop the
new weapons.
The enhanced bombs, called "Robust Nuclear Earth Penetrators (RNEP)," would
be used to destroy caches of weapons of mass destruction hidden deep inside
hardened caves and bunkers. Like the conventional "bunker-busters" used in
Afghanistan against cave-hidden Taliban and al Qaeda weapons and personnel,
the Robust Nuclear Earth Penetrator bomb will not fully detonate until deep
below ground. Unlike the explosives in the conventional bunker-buster,
however, the RNEP's warhead will pack a nuclear punch.
While the Robust Nuclear Earth Penetrator is undeniably a nuclear weapon,
Pentagon officials are quick to point out that it be designed to do its job
without spreading radiation into the atmosphere, and that its development
would comply with all nuclear arms reduction and test ban treaties.
With full support from the White House, the Pentagon has asked Congress to
fully fund $15.5 million for development of the Robust Nuclear Earth
Penetrator. Lawmakers will consider the request in September as part of the
fiscal 2003 defense authorization bill.
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 20:40:36 +0000
From: Brad Shultz <springhaze@comcast.net>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: Bad Poems
Eric---don't know why you care about your c--
You come from a country that terrorized the world from 1914 thru 1945.
You must have ancestors that were involved in that. The U.S. fixed
that problem and then protected you from 1946 through the demise of the
Soviet empire. And we are still there protecting you from your foolish
ways.
The U.S. has never used it's power to colonialize others. If we wanted
to we could take over the world.
And I am of German descent.
Eric---You are lucky the U.S. was born. You would not be able to post
what you did without us. In fact you would not have a puter much less a
light bulb without us.
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 20:47:07 +0000
From: Brad Shultz <springhaze@comcast.net>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: Good Man
Those of you who who dare to compare our President to the evil people in
the world's history ahve not read your history and don't know our
President. You are evil yourselves. You are scum.
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