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Date:
Sat, 29 Mar 2003 17:57:35 -0800
Subject:
RDT Right Now #1808
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Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 03 : Issue #1808
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Tori Amos, "Thoughts"
In this issue:
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ADMIN: digest 1808/1806 [ admin@torithoughts.org ]
man created god, not the other way a [ "Bethany Rose" <hejira@u-town.com> ]
clarification [ arija <arija.weddle@yale.edu> ]
a few things [ Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.de ]
omaha world-herald concert review [ noam tchotchke <woj@smoe.org> ]
Where Bush and his team miscalculate [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ]
let's call George Fox names [ John Bragazzi <utown@worldnet.att.n ]
My orphanage [ Succubus Megan <Abulia@imaterrorist ]
It is sweet and honorable to die for [ Succubus Megan <Abulia@imaterrorist ]
The Sperm Game [ "J. Mathers" <jmathers@westol.com> ]
Earrybird [ Brad Shultz <springhaze@comcast.net ]
hang it up [ Brad Shultz <springhaze@comcast.net ]
yay for spring break! [ "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlif ]
Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives:
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 17:35:26 -0800
From: admin@torithoughts.org
Subject: ADMIN: digest 1808/1806
Earlier this week, digest #1806 accidentally went out numbered as "1808."
I'm aware of the error and digest 1806 shows correctly in the archives.
I mostly wanted to mention this so folks wouldn't think they got the same
digest twice.
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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:01:40 -0500
From: "Bethany Rose" <hejira@u-town.com>
To: "Dipfucks" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: man created god, not the other way around.
Roxanne said:
"And, if you've never read the Quran (which I have), you would never
realise how much of a true bastard the prophet Muhammad was."
wow. since when did it become kosher around here to bash someone's religion?
i don't know, but i'm guessing you wouldn't have such an easy time going
around here saying "Jesus Christ was a bastard" or "Abraham was a bastard"
or what have you.
i've done a lot of reading on the Christianity-Judaism-Islam connections
(any of Karen Armstrong's books are excellent, btw) and it's my opinion that
the basis of these religions are not inherently evil. it's people who
twisted the beliefs for their own uses, as well as class and hierarchy and
time that have made people do evil things in the name of god, or allah, or
whatever.
and with that, she was gone.
-bethany
ps. brad - thanks for the laughs! :)
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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:14:14 -0500
From: arija <arija.weddle@yale.edu>
To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: clarification
> You come from a country that terrorized the world from 1914 thru 1945.
> You must have ancestors that were involved in that. The U.S. fixed
> that problem and then protected you from 1946 through the demise of the
> Soviet empire. And we are still there protecting you from your foolish
> ways.
the U.S. "fixed" that problem only because it was in our best interest. in
fact, hitler took his eugenic policies from the united states, in the early
20th century. the united states was the first country to have mandatory
sterilization laws on the books, whereby millions of immigrants, drunks,
criminals, epileptics, and other "feebleminded" people were sterilized to
prevent spread of bad seed, and because it was cheaper than keeping them in
institutions their whole lives. hitler took his policies of eugenic
sterilization from harry l. laughlin, then president of the eugenics record
office at cold spring harbor, long island, commending laughlin for his
brilliant work and making him an honorary member of the nazi party.
for more info, go here: http://vector.cshl.org./eugenics
what happened before WWII isnt the point. the point is, most standard
history books won't teach you this, but they will teach you to remember
germany largely becuase of a chain of events started by one man
(oversimplified, yes, but we're talking in very essential terms here). you
of all people, brad, should know how media is manipulative. you always tell
us young folk not to be influenced by the liberal media - please, please,
don't believe everything that your outdated and biased high school history
courses taught you either.
for those who might like to discuss something besides the war (like me), let
me pose a topic (equally as difficult). i'm currently writing a paper on
whether or not westerners (or anyone) can judge the validity and humanity of
the african (sudanese, specifically) practice of female circumcision. it's
very difficult to stop thinking in universals and "truths" and to force
oneself to work within the discourse of a culture and a people. what are
peoples thoughts about this specific issue and the theory behind it? i'd
really like to know.
arija
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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 10:19:55 -0800
From: Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.devin.com>
To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: a few things
Hi, folks...
Can we keep to the agreed-upon names for the various Beths please? *I* keep
getting confused!
me = Beth
Beth Coulter = Bethey
Bethany Rusen = Bethany
thanks...
Winterlion: Sorry to hear about your grandmother. :( Maybe you could tell us
some stories about her?
Eric with a c: Nice to see you posting! I'm sorry I haven't had the time to
read & interact with your comments. For once, it appears I'm busier than you
are. :-/
Beth
--
"This country has a deep fear and mistrust of strong, smart, accomplished,
outspoken women unless they are sexy 22-year-olds killing vampires on
television." -- Dennis Miller
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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 17:46:12 -0500
From: noam tchotchke <woj@smoe.org>
To: torinews@smoe.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>,
rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: omaha world-herald concert review
thanks to david mobley for pointing this out!
<url: http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_np=0&u_pg=1458&u_sid=692900 >
Published Tuesday
March 25, 2003
Review: Amos woos Orpheum audience
BY CHRISTINE LAUE
WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER
Tori Amos' voice cut through the pre-show crowd chatter, causing screams
and applause as audience members turned their eyes to a curtain glowing in
orange and pink lights. Flawlessly, she sang the a cappella "Wampum Prayer"
from her new album, "Scarlet's Walk," before the curtain opened and she
walked onstage, sultry and confident, dancing and cozying up to her shiny
black Bosendorfer piano like it was a guy at a bar.
When her fingers first touched the keys, the crowd could feel the
electricity between the singer-songwriter and her instrument, and it
erupted in screams again.
Wearing a flowing wrap dress covered with deep mauve, brown and cream
diamonds over shiny denim-blue capris, Amos played "A Sorta Fairytale," the
first single from "Scarlet's Walk." As her fingers and voice painted a
picture of Scarlet and a lover riding in a car, she dropped her head and
shoulders back, singing: "I put the hood right back where you could taste
heaven perfectly."
For a sold-out crowd of 2,600 people, Monday night in the Orpheum Theater
was a perfect taste of heaven in all her red-haired glory. Amos' 1992
debut, "Little Earthquakes," began cultivating the cult following that has
helped her sell more than 12 million albums and sell out shows with fans
like Missy King, who drove from Chicago to Omaha for the fifth of seven
consecutive concerts she and friends are attending.
"She's incredible," King, 22, said. "There's no words for it."
Some found them, shouting: "I love you, Tori!"
"Love you back!" Amos said quickly before launching into a four-song set in
which her band exited, leaving her alone with her piano. The set included
"Silent All These Years," a "Little Earthquakes" song that, like much of
her older material, elicited the biggest cheers of the night.
With her band, Amos performed "Crucify," another "Little Earthquakes" song,
as she rhythmically repeated the line "I am never going back again to
crucify myself."
She spent most of the night between her piano and keyboards like a cook
working the line, turning her back to one as she played the other, or
playing the piano with one hand, the keyboards with the other.
Back and forth, she worked for two hours - 19 songs plus two encores of two
songs each.
Opening act Rhett Miller, who is touring as a solo artist as his
alt-country band the Old 97's takes a break, won the crowd over - a tough
task for an acoustic act in a big hall. By belting out his smart-pop solo
and Old 97's songs and rocking out like an 8-year-old with a toy guitar,
Miller impressed fans and proved that acoustic acts are not always subdued.
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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 21:28:19 -0500
From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com>
To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: Where Bush and his team miscalculated...
When I was making my pleas in February for people to think seriously about
this action in Iraq, I mentioned the fact that the Middle East is the
birthplace of chess, and other strategy games. A game popular in ancient
Egypt (hounds and jackals) had rules so complex that today we still don't
know how to accurately play it, no matter how many experts try. So strategy
and patience is bred into the average Arab. Taking weeks to make your next
move is a worthy use of time, mostly because between heat and sandstorms,
there isn't much better to do.
So George W. Bush decided a game was being played. Being from Texas, I
guess he assumed all games are like poker. I don't think they play much
chess in Texas, but I could be wrong. But obviously, this is not a fast
game of poker where you show your hand and move on. This is human chess,
where the pawns are expendable in order to get a good judgment on your
opponents next move and his method of playing. All those smiling Iraqis
that surrendered in the first two days were pawns, stationed to sucker our
troops into a feeling of confidence.
Then, just like the British in the American Revolution, they started to
swagger with self-importance and left themselves open to the warfare that
the Minutemen invented, and the Vietcong improved on. As the camera showed
the soldiers waving and smiling and blithely driving by waving and smiling
Iraqis, I wanted to scream out, "Watch your Ass! They aren't as happy as
they look!" Now I hear the troops complaining that the Iraqis won't fight
"like men". The British said the same thing about the revolutionaries.
If Bush had an ounce of academic intelligence, instead of cowboy ranch
smarts, he would have realized that Saddam would have been happy to play the
game forever, the international interest fulfilling him. To spend one/tenth
of what we are currently spending, would have paid for tons of inspectors to
keep him from building, selling, or using those weapons of mass destruction
he is said to possess. No lives would have been lost and the country
wouldn't be feeling this horrible divide. If only Bush had been able to
think a few steps ahead and played the game. But he went from point A
(going to war) all the way to point Z (democratic Iraq) without ever
considering all the potential problems. I think one of the biggest problems
he overlooked was a terrified populace being forced to fight under threat of
death. The Iraqi soldiers need only to aim their guns at the citizens to
create an urban force.
Now I am concerned about Bush's lack of impulse control. Who around him
would
stop him should he decide to drop a big one on Baghdad if a siege ensues?
Rumsfield would think it was a grand plan, because any civilians left in
Baghdad obviously are with Saddam. As far as Congress goes, 9/11 robbed the
majority of them of their balls, and the ones who do talk get hushed quicker
than Mike Moore at the Oscars.
Now Bush has dug himself a hole in the sand, deeper than he thought and no
matter how hard and fast he digs, the sand will continue to pour in on him.
He's digging in Iraq and the economy and national unity are falling apart.
The terrorists never have to hit us again. Everything that Bush has done
since 9/11 has accomplished everything the towers falling couldn't. And all
because he never learned to play a good game of chess.
Peace in our lifetime,
Beth
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
without accepting it. --Aristotle
www.bethcoulter.com
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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 05:59:34 -0500
From: John Bragazzi <utown@worldnet.att.net>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: let's call George Fox names
Bethany said:
> wow. since when did it become kosher around here to bash
> someone's religion?
Well, it indicates that you've got a successful religion anyway. I
was raised a Quaker, and nobody ever bashes Quakerism. Nobody even
makes fun of it, the only people I ever heard tell "Quaker jokes"
were Quakers.
Seriously, though, you're absolutely right. Name-calling probably
seems pretty safe right now (at least in the U.S.), but that doesn't
make it right.
Now, a real *analysis* of a religion (any religion) would be something
else. If somebody wanted to post a real point-by-point comparison of
various religions, even if their goal was to prove that one was
superior to another, that would be very interesting, and some good
discussion might come out of it.
Oh, and here's a Quaker joke:
A ship came in from Europe with a cargo of shingles. A Quaker
businessman came aboard to buy some, and inquired about the price.
The captain said, "Well, friend, if *you* pick the bundles you want,
the price is $2 a bundle. If *I* pick the bundles, the price is only
$1 a bundle."
The businessman said, "Well, then thee will pick the bundles, and I'll
take the entire shipment."
As B/4,
John
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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 09:27:52 -0800 (PST)
From: Succubus Megan <Abulia@imaterrorist.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: My orphanage
Hola mes amies,
I read all these different war posts on RDTRN and I realize just how easily
led I am. Like, I'll read Roxanne's or Brad's and I'll be like, "Wow!
They're so right! Everyone in the military needs a hug!". But then I'll
read Bethey's or Cheefooska's and I'll be like, "Wow! They're so right!
George Bush is a dumdumpop!" and I'll believe that too, until I read a new
opinion and a new opinion and a new opinion.
And that's scares me, because I really don't want to be a sheep. I want to
lead myself, dammit, but I'm slowly coming to terms that I'm a follower
instead of a leader in certain things. Especially politics, which confuse
me and upset me, because there are so many motivations and so many lies and
so much blame and I'm just like, "No! Stop talking! Your words are a
spiderweb...for SHEEP! ARGH!".
So I don't want to be a sheep. And I want my own opinion. But I really
don't know which side I'm on, because both sides seem like the right side.
And then it hits me that "Truth" is absolutely nothing. "Right" is
absolutely nothing (except a direction, but I'm talking about "right thing
to do" not "right vs left"). "Right" is nothing but an ideal. And what
are ideals?
Ideals are figments. They're like Dick and Jane, doing the right things,
merely symbols and fake angels that don't really exist because my shoulder
is perfectly bare. There's no devil-angel marks on either of them.
So, if the "right" thing to do isn't real. If it's just a figment, an
idea, nothing we can grasp, then how the hell do we really know what
"right" is?
There is no "right". There are only shades of gray. So many fucking
shades of gray and they all start to blur into each other after a while so
you can't tell which one's the lightest and which one's the darkest.
All it is, is an ideal that deals with white and black, good and bad.
Well, both sides of the issue have reprecusions that are fucking "bad". If
we don't go to war with Saddam, he could hurt millions of people. I mean,
he's already exterminated some of his own countrymen and he could do it
again. He could do it to us and that makes me sick because I can just see
the poison gas blowing through the wind, old people breathing it in, tied
into their wheelchairs and unable to escape.
But then I keep on thinking about Neville Chamberlain. "Peace in our time"
boy who pretty much let Hitler do whatever the fuck he wanted because they
were afraid of war. WWI was bad enough. They didn't want WWII and because
they didn't want it, because they were afraid to put a bad man down, Hitler
killed 9 million people because they happened to not be all gung-ho about
Jesus.
So which side do I choose when both are striving for ideals that are
impossible to grasp. "Peace" vs. "Safety". What the fuck is "right"?
What's the best thing to do? What's the future going to hold?
This is all minority report and I have no idea who to support in this
arguement, so I nod and agree with both sides and say, "well, you sound
right! Oh, and you too! You sound right as well! Let's make war. No!
Let's keep the peace! No! Let's...um...make war BY keeping the
peace...no, that's not right..." and I just end up being a sheep and
grazing on both sides of the field.
So I'm going to end this now by saying that I have no idea what side I'm on
because they're both right. And they're both wrong. And I'm sick of not
contributing more to the issue.
All I really know is that killing is bad and that not stopping the killers?
That's bad too.
"Death of the Ball Turret Gunner"
by Randall Jarrell
>From my mother's sleep I fell into the State,
And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze.
Six miles from earth, loosed from its dream of life,
I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters.
When I died they washed me out of the turret with a hose.
How Now, Brown Cow?
Megan Christine Auffart
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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 09:31:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Succubus Megan <Abulia@imaterrorist.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: It is sweet and honorable to die for one's country
Hola mes amies,
Another one. But still, who will be releasing the mustard gas? Which side
will kill the most? Which side will let the most die either by action or
inaction?
I need a fucking psychic...
Dulce Et Decorum Est
Bent double, like old beggars under sacks
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind.
Gas! GAS! Quick, boys! --- An ecstasy of fumbling,
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling
And floundering like a man in fire or lime ---
Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.
In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.
If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,---
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.
-- Wilfred Owen
How Now, Brown Cow?
Megan Christine Auffart
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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 20:41:50 -0500
From: "J. Mathers" <jmathers@westol.com>
To: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: The Sperm Game
On Sunday, March 16 I was off to my 12th Tori concert. This one was in
Pittsburgh at the same facility that I met Tori in 1996. The first order of
business was what to wear. I have a perceived perspective of what persona
is expected at these concerts and a realization that what I am (a 62 year
old Physicist) is not part of that persona. After 5 outfits I finally made
my best attempt at an acceptable persona and gave up on among others the
quantum mechanics tee shirt.
Again it was an all day affair at the A.J. Polumbo Center. The center is a
sports arena where the basketball events are held. It was the first warm
day after 4 months of continuous depressing cold winter weather everybody
was in high spirits. I was at the meet and greet by 1:00 PM and meeting the
fans. I met several new people and some that were at the Columbus show.
There was the couple a couple from the south side of Pittsburgh, the young
lady with the excellent photo of Tori, the engineer from Detroit I met in
Columbus, my friend from Butler, PA, and others. Another one I met was
young lady who had taken her 5-month baby Madelyn all the way from
Baltimore, MD with high hopes for Tori to meet her. All if us had gone
though preparations on what we would say to Tori if we should meet her. We
spent so much time with her listening to her albums. In her case it was
through Madelyn.
Soon they were ready to send the fans to the barricades for when Tori
arrives. The fans were positioning themselves for the mad dash to get the
front row. Later this week it finally dawned on me of what this whole
process resembles. We as humans tend to duplicate our own cellular
processing and the meet and greet resembles the human reproduction process.
Everyone starts off at the same point and the strongest and fastest get to
the final barricade first and meets Tori. This is the same process as the
sperm charging off to get to the egg and only the strongest win. I call
this process the sperm game, a classic example of survival of the fittest.
In the real sperm game only one wins but in this game about 20% win. I have
played this sperm game 7 times now and never won. When I met her 7 years
ago, there was no sperm game and everyone got to meet her. I am successful
in life but do not have the aggression to play this game successfully and
only the aggressive meet her. If I am reincarnated as a sperm cell I am
screwed. Others at the meet and greet either do not have the personality or
refused to play this game. For me, I just wave at her when she is looking
in my direction indicating, "Hey look, I exist!" and am satisfied.
Madelyn' mom with her baby was ready to play the sperm game when security
informed her that baby was not allowed into the crowd. A look of tragedy
came across her face and by the time she handed Madelyn to her friend she
lost the sperm game. Alas, all was not lost. When Tori was in front of her
but out of reach, she asked Tori to see Madelyn and suddenly defeat was
turned into victory. Tori steeped to one side and the girlfriend took
Madelyn to Tori. Mom stood there with her camera with tears running down
her face.
A few minutes later another male fan who lost the sperm game hollers out
that he has a 14 year old son but with no success. (I see now that I will
have to work out a deal with my daughter about borrowing my presently
1-month-old granddaughter Morgan for a future meet and great.) After Tori
left, Mom came down still in tears and symbolic of the 21st century, out
came the cell phone spreading the news far and wide.
I am very thankful Tori makes an effort to see the fans at each concert.
Seven years ago Tori spent 2 hours in the lot meeting fans and she was
probably late for sound check and the fatigue factor from this will wear her
down over a long tour. The sperm game limits the time she is out there but
my point is maybe there is some other random method that fans can met her
and still control her exposure time.
For the last 10 years I was a part of the Tori community. However, I have
had limited success in meeting others in the Pittsburgh area. All of a
sudden after the meet and greet I was off to the local pizza place with 10
other Toripiles including the engineer from Detroit and I enjoyed myself to
no end. I can see why my wife gets nervous when I go to these things with
all of these pretty girls.
Before the concert I met the two other most famous people there. Mike Why
and his girlfriend were standing outside. Once inside, I found my seat
halfway in the back to one side. Sitting there before the show I started to
look at the faces of the continual flow of Toriphiles marching by. Maybe I
was trying to look through past the faces and ascertain the soul of a
Toriphile. After a while I noticed a very definite common denominator.
Were they all a victim of the same perceived expected persona or as I
suspect, when Tori is looking out into the audience, she is looking in a
mirror at herself. Thus, there is a continuum Tori's running around there.
Once the music started I thanked God I had my earplugs. I suspect the guy
from the cell phone commercials moonlights at sound check and the sound
people go to the farthest extremes of the facility seeing if the can hear
"Can you hear me now!" If not, they turn the sound louder forgetting the
people closer. . Larry, our senior buyer from work attended this concert
and he was up in peanut heaven and the sound level was acceptable. But for
me, I spend most of my time adjusting the penetration of the earplugs into
my ears trying to control the sound level to a somewhat comfortable level.
As my stockbroker pointed out, Tori's power is in the subtle variations in
tones. To me it was all lost in the hissing of the amplifiers. In a
theater like the Palace in Columbus where I saw Tori last November, the
place is designed to carry sound throughout the facility and blasting the
amplifiers is not required but here the sound level was exceeding my
saturation point even with earplugs. The pre-med student from WV next to me
spent most of the concert with his fingers in his ears. He knew the
consequence of loud sounds as does our previous President, Billy, who is
undergoing treatment for excessive sound exposure.
In Columbus Tori's purpose seemed to be push Scarlet's Walk but by now most
of the fans that would buy the album already have and after the first two
songs, the next ten were from her previous work in contrast to her show in
Columbus. All in all, I enjoyed the concert even with the poor sound
quality. No magic happened but from her music this time. But my real
reason to attend was the people and this made it a high point of the year.
Have to end.
Jim Mathers jmathers@westol.com
Footnote:
The last few weeks have been full of events in my life. I got a
granddaughter last month. More than that, after many years I am finally
starting to have a somewhat normal relationship with my daughter Judy after
so many years. My wife had major back surgery and I am playing nurse. All
was looking good as Jean is recovering and baby Morgan is fine. Today we
learned Judy has cancer. I cried driving home today. Life isn't infinite.
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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 21:20:01 +0000
From: Brad Shultz <springhaze@comcast.net>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: Earrybird
I know more about the war and stuff cuz I get earlybird and you guys
don't. And you can't.
Tee hee.
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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 21:31:13 +0000
From: Brad Shultz <springhaze@comcast.net>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: hang it up
I think it is time for RDT to retire. It is now a parody of its self.
It has no usefullness in society.
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Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 18:45:02 -0800
From: "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlife@hotmail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: yay for spring break!
I went to Canada last week for the first part of spring break and now I'm in
California. yay, SUNSHIIIIIIIIIIIIINE!! 75 degrees, north of san fran...i
heard tori on the radio today. it's so wonderful here. canada was the best
thing ever. i fuckin love that country. i drank a LOT and met lots of cool
canadians. i bought this shirt that says "i love canadian boys." :) they're
just the hottest things ever, my god. oh and we went to victoria on monday.
i got to ride a double decker bus, it was so fun. anyway, hope you guys are
all grrrreat. i love going to canada and now i'm just chillin with my
friend's family.
-jessica
I don't have a cavernous pussy! -- margaret cho
sleep, motherfucker, sleep! -- me
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