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RDT Right Now #1810

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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to: <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the subject and body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 03 : Issue #1810 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o 2 Tori tickets in Boise Id, row C [ "Lucas Kaserman" <lrkaserman@mccall ] boise arbiter concert preview [ noam tchotchke <woj@smoe.org> ] rapid city journal article about tas [ noam tchotchke <woj@smoe.org> ] What will they say in 2020 about the [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ] Fw: "If Dr. Suess Wrote the News" (m [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ] Sally's Bunnies [ Violet <fluffy@annihilist.com> ] war (what is it good for?) [ John Bragazzi <utown@worldnet.att.n ] rapid city journal concert review [ noam tchotchke <woj@smoe.org> ] name survey [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ] Taxivision [ Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net. ] things and stuff and the like. [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ] Re: RDT Right Now #1807 [ Teunis Peters <winterlion@greycloak ] my grandmother... [ Teunis Peters <winterlion@greycloak ] Beth Coulter.com [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ] Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 22:29:58 -0800 From: "Lucas Kaserman" <lrkaserman@mccallrentals.com> To: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: 2 Tori tickets in Boise Id, row C Hi, I have 2 extra tickets to the show at the Morrison center on April 6..Row C, seats 14 and 15. Bought for a friend, but he can't make it. Please reply if anyone is interested. Would like to recover cost. Lucas -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 14:59:45 -0500 From: noam tchotchke <woj@smoe.org> To: torinews@smoe.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>, rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: boise arbiter concert preview <url: http://www.arbiteronline.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2003/04/03/3e8bbe16dc432 > Tori Amos comes to Boise James Patrick Kelly, The Arbiter April 03, 2003 Tumultuous songstress Tori Amos is bringing her Steinway piano and company of musicians to the Morrison Center Sunday night. Amos, who is currently on her ìScarletís Walkî tour, recently released her Epic Recordsí debut and seventh studio effort after a reported fallout with Atlantic Records. Over the last decade, Amosí unique music styling has garnered her an ardent following of fans, called Toriphiles. Her piano-based sound seems to constantly evolve ñ always changing from album to album. She has two platinum recordings, 1994ís Under The Pink and 1996ís Boys For Pele. In 2001, Amos released Strange Little Girls, an eclectic album of covers, including The Boomtown Ratsí ìI Donít Like Mondaysî and Neal Youngís ìHeart Of Gold.î Amos, originally from Newton, N.C., first hit the scene in 1988 after her hard rock band, Y Kant Tory Read, released their ill-fated self-titled album, which sold a dismal 7,000 copies. She admits that her earlier work was an Atlantic Records studio concoction. Amos described the album as ìMadonna and Kate Bush in a head-on collision after eating bad mushrooms.î Her 1991 debut as Tori Amos, Little Earthquakes, was widely accepted by American listeners after receiving rave reviews in England, where it was first released. In 1992, she recorded Crucify, a five-song album that showed her diverse nature as a musician. The album included a haunting cover of Nirvanaís ìSmells Like Teen Spiritî and an ethereal version of Led Zeppelinís ìThank You.î In the new millennium, Amos is just as prolific as she was in the ë90s, and her sound matures with each new release ñ proving that she can stand the test of time in Americaís fickle music industry. Tori Amos is coming to the Morrison Center on Sunday, April 6 with special guest Rhett Miller. Tickets are available at all Select-a-Seat locations or online at www.idahotickets.com. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 15:02:57 -0500 From: noam tchotchke <woj@smoe.org> To: torinews@smoe.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>, rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: rapid city journal article about tash <url; http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/articles/2003/04/03/news/local/news04.txt > Amos' daughter stands in for mom at Bear Country By Kevin Woster, Journal Staff Writer RAPID CITY -- It turned out that Tori Amos couldn't make it to Bear Country U.S.A. on Wednesday to see this year's crop of black bear cubs. But she sent a perfectly qualified stand-in - her 2-1/2-year-old daughter, Natashya. Amos, a pop singer, pianist and songwriter, performed Wednesday night at Rushmore Plaza Civic Center. Earlier in the day, she accepted an invitation by Sean Casey, one of the owners of Bear Country, to come see the cubs. But Amos changed her plans when she got an invitation to visit the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation and the Wounded Knee site, which is prominent in Amos' latest album. The cubs at Bear Country still got plenty of attention from Natashya, a chatty child with a fetching British accent and an obvious passion for Bear Country creatures great and small. "I want the red one," she said, peering down into a box at a cub with a red ribbon around its neck. Natashya got to pet several of the 16 cubs born last January at Bear Country. She also got a close-up gander at a bobcat and several raccoons kept in cages nearby. Her comfort around animals comes from living with her mom and dad on a country place in southern England, her nanny, Rose Walker, said. "She lives on a farm, so she knows animals," Walker said. Walker kept track of Natashya as she joined Sean Casey's 3-year-old son, Grant, in the Bear Country frolic. They then went on to see Mount Rushmore with Karim Merali, general manager of Radisson Hotel. Tori Amos and her family arrived at the Radisson on Wednesday morning and were scheduled to spend the night there after her performance. Shortly after their arrival, they met Sean Casey, who issued the invitation for the cub visit. At 16, this year's batch of cubs is down significantly from last year's total of 25 and especially from previous annual production that had soared to as high as 80. Bear Country could barely handle that many cubs, so the attraction began a system of birth-control techniques to curb reproduction. "We were having way too many for a while there," Sean said. "The birth-control plan is working." Still, there are plenty of cubs to maintain the Bear Country population - and to entertain a little girl with a big-name mom. Contact Kevin Woster at 394-8413 or kevin.woster@rapidcityjournal.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 19:05:40 -0500 From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: What will they say in 2020 about the war? Comment ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Strange path to Palestine After this war, the history of the future will reveal unintended consequences Timothy Garton Ash Thursday April 3, 2003 The Guardian 'Free Palestine' said the placards held up by some marchers on the anti-war demonstrations. Well, here's a surprise for them: this bloody mess of a war may result in a free Palestine. Let me explain, through this extract from the 2020 edition of the Oxford Dictionary of Contemporary World History: "Curiously, the Iraq war can be seen as the turning point in progress towards an independent Palestinian state. American forces, with their overwhelming technological superiority, succeeded militarily in defeating Saddam Hussein, but, as one American general ruefully observed, the enemy was 'a bit different from the one we wargamed against'. The military campaign resulted in civilian casualties and damage to Islamic holy places that inflamed the whole Arab world. One young Egyptian sarcastically remarked to a western television interviewer: 'Thank you very much, British and Americans, because you're waking us up.' British troops compared their street-by-street struggle against paramilitary groups to Northern Ireland. This proved prescient. For the subsequent occupation of Iraq was like Northern Ireland, only worse. A large majority of Iraqis were delighted to be rid of Saddam Hussein; this did not mean they welcomed a colonial administration imposed by Washington, headed by a retired American general, and which included a minister of finance who was a former head of the CIA. British forces prided themselves on being more subtle in winning the 'hearts and minds' of a restless population, but they underestimated the depth of historic resentment directed specifically against Britain, the former colonial power in both Iraq and Palestine. A relatively small number of Iraqi paramilitaries and suicide bombers compelled the Anglo-American occupying forces to use tactics that, seen throughout the Arab world on al-Jazeera television, reminded Arabs everywhere of Israeli soldiers' behaviour in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Nor did it help that the American viceroy of Iraq, General Jay Garner, conceded far-reaching autonomy to the Kurds in northern Iraq, who had been valuable allies during the campaign against Saddam, and were the only group in Iraq to remain unambiguously pro-American under the occupation. Critics of the war had predicted that, in the sombre words of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, it would produce a hundred new Osama bin Ladens. These predictions did not entirely come true. But in the aftermath of the war, there were renewed Islamist terror attacks, especially in Europe, whose large Muslim population provided excellent cover for al-Qaida and other groups. The November 2003 bombing of a shopping centre in central London, which killed 37 people, was a notably horrific incident. There was also growing discontent among Muslim Americans. As the human, political and financial costs of occupying Iraq mounted while the American economy plunged further into recession, criticism of the Bush administration grew in the United States. Moderate Republicans privately agreed with Democrats that the administration had led the country into a morass in the Middle East, while alienating many of the United States' friends around the world. This applied particularly to Europe. Even Britain, America's most stalwart ally, was incensed by the lack of any serious progress along the 'roadmap' to resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. After George Bush narrowly lost the November 2004 election (following a recount in Florida), the new administration hastened to change course. In an attempt to mend fences with the Arab world and the Europeans, it withdrew its troops from Iraq, handing control to the Iraqis and Kurds, and started exerting serious pressure on the Sharon government in Israel to come back to the negotiating table with the Palestinians. President Smith was helped in this endeavour by the death of Yasser Arafat, and the advent of a more reasonable Palestinian leadership. The European Union, which had been pressing for such negotiations, was also useful in exerting economic leverage on the Palestinians. As a result, in 2005 a deal was finally made for a viable Palestinian state in boundaries only slightly more generous than those offered by President Clinton in 2000. The Gaza strip was connected to the West Bank, as Clinton had proposed, by a futuristic raised road and rail highway - paid for by the Europeans, and jokingly known as the Eurostar. The deal was violently resisted by both Hamas on the Palestinian side, and Israeli settlers. There were several appalling incidents of violence, which finally resulted in most of the settlers in Palestine fleeing to Israel. A permanent fence was erected between Israel and Palestine; in parts of Jerusalem it looked like the Berlin Wall. The whole process was bloody, unjust and arbitrary - but, as in former Yugoslavia, physical separation turned out to be a lesser evil. In time, and with help from the international community, the two sides started to cooperate, as they needed to for their own economic survival. >From his hideaway, Osama bin Laden (or someone claiming to be Osama bin Laden) gloated that 'the heroic Jihad that began on September 11 2001 has triumphed with the establishment of an independent state for our brothers in Palestine and the withdrawal of infidel forces from Iraq'. On the face of it, this was a crushing defeat for the group of American policymakers, identified particularly with Deputy Secretary of Defence Paul Wolfowitz, who had seen the invasion of Iraq as the beginning of a democratic reordering of the Middle East. No one was more outspoken in criticising President Smith than the former Defence Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld. 'Neville Chamberlain' was his politest epithet. Yet history always has more surprises up its sleeve. After a period of pan-Arab triumphalism, a new generation of Arab leaders and voters realised they could remain in historic backwardness, or join the modern world which beckoned so attractively from across the Turkish border, in the European Union. Even while Anglo-American occupation had been fiercely resisted, its attempts to win 'hearts and minds' - the broadcasts of Radio Free Middle East, the Fulbright scholarships for young Arabs to study in the West, the Western films, music and magazines - had made a subcutaneous impact. With the Palestinians now living in a viable state, Arab states finally came to accept the permanent presence of the state of Israel. Within a decade, it was the Arabs themselves who were beginning to reorder the Middle East as a patchwork of consumer democracies. Wolfowitz's vision was realised, but by a route that he neither envisaged nor desired." It's a measure of the mess we're in that this might pass for an optimistic history of the future. Of course we never know what will really happen until it does, but two things are clear. First, one of history's very few universal laws is the law of unintended consequences. By starting this war, Bush and Blair have thrown large parts of the jigsaw puzzle of world politics into the air. They have as little idea as we do where the pieces will fall. Second, if Europe has any sense at all (which recent events also lead one to doubt) it will start now to develop its own ideas for a democratic reconstruction of the Middle East - in readiness for 2005. timothy.garton.ash@guardian.co.uk Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2003 -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 22:33:11 -0500 From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Fw: "If Dr. Suess Wrote the News" (makes you think) THE GRINCH REVISITED (with thanks to Dr. Seuss) ©2002 Doug Goodkin The Whos down in Whoville liked this country a lot, But the Grinch in the White House most certainly did not. He didn't arrive there by the will of the Whos, But stole the election that he really did lose. Vowed to "rule from the middle," then installed his regime. (Did this really happen or is it just a bad dream?) He didn't listen to voters, just his friends he was pleasin' Now, please don't ask why, no one quite knows the reason. It could be his heart wasn't working just right. It could be, perhaps, that he wasn't too bright. But I think that the most likely reason of all, Is that both brain and heart were two sizes too small. In times of great turmoil, this was bad news, To have a government that ignores its Whos. But the Whos shrugged their shoulders, went on with their work, Their duties as citizens so casually did shirk. They shopped at the mall and watched their T.V. They drove their gas guzzling big S.U.V. Oblivious to what was going on in D.C. Ignoring the threats to democracy. They read the same papers that ran the same leads, Reporting what only served corporate needs. (For the policies affecting the lives of all nations Were made by the giant U.S. Corporations.) Big business grew fatter, fed by its own greed, And by people who shopped for the things they didn't need. But amidst all the apathy came signs of unrest, The Whos came to see we were fouling our nest. And the people who cared for the ideals of this nation Began to discuss and exchange information. The things they couldn't read in the corporate-owned news Of FTAA meetings and CIA coups. Of drilling for oil and restricting rights. They published some books, created Websites Began to write letters and use their e-mail (Though Homeland Security might send them to jail!) What began as a whisper soon grew to a roar, These things going on they could no longer ignore. They started to rise up and fight City Hall Let their voices be heard, they rose to the call, To vote, to petition, to gather, dissent, To question the policies of the "President." As greed gained in power and power knew no shame The Whos came together, sang "Not in our name!" One by one from their sleep and their slumber they woke The old and the young, all kinds of folk, The black, brown and white, the gay, bi- and straight, All united to sing, "Feed our hope, not our hate! Stop stockpiling weapons and aiming for war! Stop feeding the rich, start feeding the poor! Stop storming the deserts to fuel SUV's! Stop telling us lies on the mainstream T.V.'s! Stop treating our children as a market to sack! Stop feeding them Barney, Barbie and Big Mac! Stop trying to addict them to lifelong consuming, In a time when severe global warming is looming! Stop sanctions that are killing the kids in Iraq! Start dealing with ours that are strung out on crack!" A mighty sound started to rise and to grow, "The old way of thinking simply must go! Enough of God versus Allah, Muslim vs. Jew With what lies ahead, it simply won't do. No American dream that cares only for wealth Ignoring the need for community health. The rivers and forests are demanding their pay, If we're to survive, we must walk a new way. No more excessive and mindless consumption Let's sharpen our minds and garner our gumption. For the ideas are simple, but the practice is hard, And not to be won by a poem on a card. It needs the ideas and the acts of each Who, So let's get together and plan what to do!" And so they all gathered from all 'round the Earth And from it all came a miraculous birth. The hearts and the minds of the Whos they did grow, Three sizes to fit what they felt and they know. While the Grinches they shrank from their hate and their greed, Bearing the weight of their every foul deed. >From that day onward the standard of wealth, Was whatever fed the Whos spiritual health. They gathered together to revel and feast, And thanked all who worked to conquer their beast. For although our story pits Grinches 'gainst Whos, The true battle lies in what we daily choose. For inside each Grinch is a tiny small Who, And inside each Who is a tiny Grinch too. One thrives on love and one thrives on greed. Who will win out? It depends who you feed! -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 03:16:57 -0800 From: Violet <fluffy@annihilist.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Sally's Bunnies I keep checking the petition and I see so many of your names there. You folks who don't think I remember you by name, you'd be surprised. Thank you all so much! And for those who haven't signed, please take a minute to sign now: http://www.savesallysbunnies.com/ There isn't much time and they're hoping to get up to 500 signatures. The deadline for these rabbits is April 11th. Please pass the word on to family and friends and any lists where people might be interested. Violet xoxox -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 06:17:48 -0500 From: John Bragazzi <utown@worldnet.att.net> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: war (what is it good for?) Bethey had some good advice: > Mostly, just Educate yourself. Even if you think you know it all, > educate yourself. Very good advice. As Frank Zappa said, "Drop out of school before your mind rots from exposure to our mundane educational system. Forget about the Senior Prom and go to the library and educate yourself if you've got any guts." And I'd add, be willing, be willing, as you learn more and as things change, be willing to change your mind about things. My father knew a whole lot, and he was very intelligent, but he'd pretty much made his mind up about things by 1959, so that made the 1960s very difficult for him. Cyndi said: > John Bragazzi mentioned his Quaker roots.. very very kewl. > tell us a little bit about it. I, for one, only know very little > about it at all, and am VERY curious. :) Well, the central tenet of Quakerism is that there is that of god in all of us (the "inner light," as Quakers call it). >From that belief comes several others: Quakers do not kill, or war with outward weapons. How could you kill, or attack, somebody who has the spirit of god within them? Quakers worship in silence. Silence and calm is what's going to help you hear the spirit within you. Quakers worship in a group, without any minister or priest or rabbi. Why should you need an intermediary between you and what's within you? Quakers make decisions by consensus, everybody has to agree. Quakers try to live a simple life, realizing that material things do not bring happiness. Quaker use the "plain speech" (no honorifics, "thee is" instead of "you are", "first day" instead of "Sunday," etc.). Quakers are not usually evangelical about their religion, but they are evangelical about peace, and work very hard to bring it about, as well as taking part in other things they believe in (Quakers were deeply involved in the Underground Railroad during the 1800s, for example, bringing slaves North so they could be free). Quakers did a lot of draft counseling and protesting during the Vietnam war. All of this is sort of the ideal, the reality is sometimes somewhat different. Oh, and I was exaggerating when I said that nobody but Quakers makes Quaker jokes. There are Quaker jokes in "Ulysses" and in "Mason & Dixon." James Joyce was certainly not a Quaker, and I've never heard that Thomas Pynchon was either, so obviously non-Quakers make Quaker jokes, but those are the exceptions. As B/4, John -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 15:29:37 -0500 From: noam tchotchke <woj@smoe.org> To: torinews@smoe.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>, rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: rapid city journal concert review <url: http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/articles/2003/04/04/news/local/news11.txt > Review: S.D. connection made Amos' gig special By Ruth Milne, Journal Staff Writer South Dakota doesn't get sung about very often. John Linnell's "State Songs" album inexplicably devotes an entire song to Arkansas but overlooks the Dakotas, and the Liz Phair song "South Dakota" is, to say the least, unflattering (and unprintable). So when Tori Amos sent fictional character Scarlet to the Wounded Knee memorial in her latest album, "Scarlet's Walk," it was cause for celebration. Amos played Wednesday evening at Rushmore Plaza Civic Center. The concert was unexpectedly small - only about a quarter of the Barnett auditorium was used - but the intimacy was a nice surprise. As the lights went down, a guy in jeans and a plaid shirt wandered out in front of the curtains, cleared his throat and began singing. Opening act Rhett Miller, lead singer for the band Old 97's, was touring to promote a recently released solo album. He did a short set of quirky indie-country songs with absolutely no theatrics; he might as well have been singing in a coffee shop. The Texan sang and played his acoustic guitar like a slightly more vigorous Beck, and he looked rather like Shaggy from Scooby-Doo. He was informal and entirely enjoyable, and I felt a little guilty about how happy I felt when he left the stage - but Tori Amos was on her way out. "Tori" is not her real name. A rose by any other name may smell as sweet, but I doubt the audience would have cheered so loudly for Myra Amos. In the darkness of the auditorium, the curtain still shielding the stage, Tori's voice soared in the words of the "Wampum Prayer." She has a lovely voice - husky, lilting, sweet and womanly, with none of that silly-little-girl routine championed by Britney Spears and so many others. As the song ended, the curtain dropped to reveal a stage set with a grand piano and an organ facing each other, one bench between them. Tori walked onstage and sat at the piano. It's hard to describe Tori Amos without making her sound like a circus clown. A petite woman with a mane of shaggy red hair, she wore a sequined, multi-colored, robe-like garment with floor-length gauze sleeves, one red and one yellow. Below that were frayed jeans and knee-high black boots. She's a stunning, eccentric little pixie; Liberace would fade into the background next to Tori. She began with "A Sorta Fairytale," from her most recent album, and "Little Earthquakes," the title track from her brilliant 1992 debut. "Give me life/give me pain/give me myself again," she sang, backed by a bass guitarist, a drummer and her own extraordinary piano playing. Tori didn't always sit down to play (this is not a crack about how short she is); she bobbed and swayed and tossed her hair, seeming to have too much passion to stay seated. I was pleased to hear several of her older songs - like many other fans, I adore her earlier spare, confessional piano ballads. The guitarist and drummer left the stage, leaving Tori alone to play "Caught a Lite Sneeze" from the 1996 album "Boys for Pele." It's an anguished cry over a torrent of piano notes - "Dreamed a little dream/made my own pretty hate machine/boys on my left side/boys on my right side/boys in the middle/and you're ... not ... here ...." Seated between piano and organ, Tori twirled from one to the other, sometimes even reaching behind her back to play both instruments at once. After playing "Wednesday," a bouncy song off Scarlet's Walk that echoes the Beatles' "A Day in the Life," the lights turned low, and in a spotlight, she crooned Nirvana's "Smells like Teen Spirit." The song that first tore from the throat of a suicidal man drifted like a feather on her whispers. "With the lights down, it's less dangerous ...." "Carbon," about an epiphany at Wounded Knee, came next, followed by a rippling version of "Silent All These Years." With a broad grin she sang, "So you found a girl who thinks really deep thoughts. What's so amazing about really deep thoughts?" I've got an answer - they lead to lyrics like Tori's. After she left the stage, the crowd cheered for an encore. The whole routine struck me as silly - the lights didn't come on, and everybody knew she was coming back out, so why did she leave the stage in the first place? "Maybe she had a whole bunch of songs she wanted to be the last song, and she just couldn't decide," the guy next to me said. I suppose it's as good a reason as any. At any rate, after two encores, the lights came on and the concert was really over. Scarlet traveled all over America on "Scarlet's Walk," and I'm happy she (and Tori) took the time to stop and appreciate South Dakota. Contact Ruth Milne at 394-8420 or ruth.milne@rapidcityjournal.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 23:40:44 -0400 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> To: ambie19@aol.com, torandnan@juno.com, sonicdissention@hotmail.com, precious0147@hotmail.com, jodihorner77@hotmail.com, jcoffman@taurus.oursc.k12.ar.us, kimplicity@hotmail.com, mindyboo@sbcglobal.net, mjfansreunion@yahoogroups.com, rdtrn@torithoughts.org, lyricallacquer@hotmail.com, imursunshi9@hotmail.com Subject: name survey okay you guys, this one's fun to do, so.. c'mon.. take a single minute out of your life and do it. it's fun! :D 1. What does your first name mean? "The Moon Personified" according to babynames.com ^____^ 2. What does your middle name mean? "Lily" 3. What does your last name mean? uh... it means I've got Scottish ancestry in me. ^^ 4. So what does your name mean when put together? uh.. "The Lily Moon of Scottish descent Personified"? ^^ 5. What would you have been named if you were the opposite gender? prolly Doug. 6. Any other name oddities? I'm the REAL Cyndi Crawford. :D 7. Do you like your name? it's fine. ^^ I'll keep it. 8. What do you like best about it? this isn't a good or bad thing--but I do get a kick out of people's reactions when I tell them what my name is and stuff. lol 9. What do you like least about it? the fact that some people on the net think I'm either BSing or the actual model. 10. If you HAD to change your name (witness protection program, whatever), what would you want it to be? duh, Ciara Blaze? XD ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 15:52:15 +1000 From: Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net.au> To: Really Deep Thrusts Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Taxivision There's probably 100 messages about this but anyway... help create Tori's new video for Taxi Ride. Info at: http://toriamos.com/taxivision/ Rules and conditions: http://toriamos.com/taxivision/rules.html Looks like I can't play as I'm not a U.S. citizen, but here's your big chance Cyndi! ^__^ Brian -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:12:07 -0400 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: things and stuff and the like. howdy people! dunno how late I am, but happy birthday Crystal! :) hope it was faboo. :D wheeee! Taxivision! YAYYYYY!! I'm doing that. yes, yes, yes. oh baby, oh baby. :D now.. ON WITH THE OILY REPLIES! heh heh.. or something. It's just too bad that Brad had to leave RDTRN on such a nasty note... I liked him when he wasn't pushing and pushing and pushing his war beliefs and acting incredibly immature about it. Not that I think that those of you who are FOR the war are nasty immature idiots--he was just acting that way, it seems.. not a good thing. not a good thing at all. OH! in other news.. um.. on... Friday.. yeah.. Friday.. well.. hahah.. I got drunk for the first time ever in my naive and innocent and sheltered little life. my dad and I had stopped by the Class Six store on post (the military equivalent--name-wise--of a liquor store.) to buy me some stuff to make a Midori Sour with.. and as he was checking out, I eyed a small serving sized thing of citrus flavored vodka.. and he bought it for me. WELL.. that night, I made too much Midori Sour, first of all, and secondly, quaffed the entire citrus flavored vodka in less than three minutes... BAD MOVE. I was already drunk before I started work on that Midori Sour.. hahah.. oh lordy. it was.. it felt great, being drunk, but it's not something I'm comfortable with experiencing, basically. For one thing, I HATE being dizzy. lol.. anyway.. I woke up yesterday morning feeling a little rough (from lack of sleep. I'd fallen asleep at like 5 and woke up at 10 or 9.) and then I felt queasy ALL DAY. that wasn't fun. but I didn't ever get to speaking in technicolor to the porcelain god or have a headache.. THAT was good. oh and before I forget--my niece has been here for a week and is leaving this Friday.. it's been a GREAT two weeks.. she grins and smiles at me and her grandmother (and her mom too but that's a given. XD) SO MUCH.. I really feel like.. well.. in her eyes, I must be right up there with her mom, practically. lol.. and YESTERDAY.. the girl hugged me! that was.. the.. best.. feeling.. in.. the.. WORLD. It's no surprise to myself--but seems to be a pleasant one to my extended family (grandmother, aunts, etc)--that the day she was born is currently THE best day of my life.. and meeting Tori ranks right up there at #1 with it. Anyway.. I now must continue with the fluffy replies. XD Bethey said of female circumcision: "if it is an accepted rite of abuse and no girl ever looks forward to it as well as fear it, then it should be taken up as a human rights issue." that's exactly how I see it.. if it's like.. getting a tattoo--you know it's gonna hurt, but you look forward to it for *whatever* reason.. it's not a bad thing. some cultures probably really frown on our culture being so full of tattoos and piercings and flesh-stretching and stuff.. and we frown on them for other things.. it's kinda weird if you think about it. Roxanne on Islam: "It was a good idea ONCE. But it is extremely outdated. And because it cannot adapt to change, it is in a losing struggle with modernism." I hear ya there--I hear what you're saying, but.. could ya answer me this? if that's the case, then why in the hell is it THE FASTEST GROWING RELIGION in the world? I seriously would like to know, cuz I don't get it. Bethany mentioned something about a guy she kinda knew named Jim.. and a documentary being done on him.. while it sounds like his life took a turn for the tragic--which ALWAYS sucks--that must be pretty damn kewl to know that there's a documentary being done on someone you knew (as in.. saw around town and school, at least). ^^ Jessica: I'm *always* glad to send little notes of encouragement to you and the other RDTRNers. I do feel very included in this Toriphile-family/community, and the least I can do is try to return the favor. :) Keep getting well, damn it! >< Jessica on Tori: "i thought she was a freak at first...yeah she still is but she can kick my ass because she knows what a C minor versus a D flat is and I could never tell anyone." SHIT yeah! dude.. she used to REALLY put me off. I can't exactly explain what it was, but I do know one really defining moment in the put-me-off moments was when I once saw some news footage of her rockin' like a motherfucker onstage at her piano.. and, basically, as Neil Gaiman (if I remember correctly--tell me otherwise if I'm wrong) put it.. "making love to--no, FUCKING--her piano bench". That *really* kind of pushed me away at first cuz I was a young little miss Innocent type.. but that's sort of baffling in a sense because at the time, I was really.. REALLY into Michael Jackson--a man who more or less grabs his crotch compulsively, etc.. maybe it was the look on Tori's face that kinda clinched it for me cuz she really.. really.. looks like she's REALLY enjoying herself, to put it succinctly.. and back then, stuff like that and stuff relating to sex in general was sort of.. yeah. you know what I'm driving at, right? hahah.. MJ, meanwhile, just goes "AAOW!". lol.. yeah, that had to be why.. rofl.. but I certainly don't feel uncomfortable about her anymore! YAY! :D and Jessica: I want to clarify--you wouldn't fight in the war, but you are in support of the troops, then? oh and dude.. dorks are the best kind of people. don't think badly of yourself if you are one, really. dorks, nerds and geeks and generally non-conformist types. in other words, me! :D oh and Violet--I copied your email about the bunnies and sent it to a friend of mine who is big on animal kindness and stuff. I also signed the petition! ^_____^ so on that note.. I MUST GO TO BED! >< school starts tomorrow. *bawls* ciao! oh and.. shameless plug: www.mp3.com/ciara_blaze/ :D go. now. pretty please? with a cherry on top? :D Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford http://www.icenine.org/cyndi/ -- http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/368/ciara_blaze.html -- http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ -- http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/clique.html "I know we're dying / and there's no sign of a parachute / we scream in cathedrals / why can't it be beautiful / why does there gotta be a sacrifice?" -- Tori Amos ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 10:31:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Teunis Peters <winterlion@greycloaklabs.ca> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Re: RDT Right Now #1807 ohh... gotta answer :) from the one, the only, THE Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> > To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org > Subject: question. (skipping a LOT) > Would you join the military and go to battle, too, if you could? nope. not -this- war anyways. Besides I'd drive anyone around me crazy as I'm a little *sillygrin* offkilter... The only way I'd join an army was if they allowed half-crazy berserkers in. There hasn't been an army to support that in generations. Besides I'd rather not be in that spot. I guess I'd probably be too dangerous to have around, unless I was left in R&D... But to defend family or myself I'd fight. G'day, eh? :) - Winterlion -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 10:58:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Teunis Peters <winterlion@greycloaklabs.ca> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: my grandmother... Beth Winegarner asked about stories of my grandmother... Well, let's see. She was born 88 years ago, was one of six sisters and had one brother (the youngest of them - I met him again last week). there's lots that has happened since. But I'll just jump to favorites :) apparently a very long time ago she went through baker's training. All I know is she made the -best- creampuffs, pies (of various kinds), boeterkoek (spelling out probably) and many other things :) When my grandparents retired, she decided to try something new, other than driving plants everywhere. So she learned to play bridge - and my grandfather and her taught us all. They ended up being Junior Masters of bridge... There was a time once, an amazing picnic. We all went to Stanley Park (a rather nice park in Vancouver) every week for -years- for a picnic. This one time, we were playing bridge and looking at the ocean when a storm hit. All we did was put up a tarp and get some heavy things out to hold the cards down. Oh and laughed as everyone else left and we got to enjoy the park on our own *g*. The cards were fun as the thunder and lightning came down. It was a fun picnic... Oh, the at some point in the storm lightning hit the air raid system in North Vancouver.. that was strange... We've all remembered that picnic as well as others through the years. a couple of years ago I introduced her to the SCA (medievalists) by bringing her to one of the quiet events. She sat and visited with some people almost all day and everyone was really friendly - she enjoyed the whole thing very much... *g*. (Froghollow in 2001) Most recently I visited her as often as I could. Not so difficult as (with the exception of august to october) I lived within two blocks of her place. We chatted, went for long walks, and talked religion, politics and history (including of the family). She was always a very strong and proud lady capable of taking care of herself. not sure what else to say today, can't think anymore on this... G'day, eh? :) - Winterlion -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 17:45:37 -0400 From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Beth Coulter.com Greetings All, This is to let you know that my webpage is finally updated with some observations on the current war and thoughts about what to do next. Feel free to cruise on over to www.bethcoulter.com when you have a chance. If you haven't been there before, make sure you take a good look around. There is a whole lot of me on the page, and it will make you think and wonder. Peace in our Lifetime, Bethey I am PRO-PEACE. I support our troops. Let's bring them home- ALIVE and NOW (bac) o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o *** Variables Don't And Constants Aren't digest *** To POST messages to this list: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Can't figure out how to SUB, UNSUB, or CHANGE ADDRESSES? 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