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Date:
Wed, 16 Apr 2003 15:32:34 -0700
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RDT Right Now #1812
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Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 03 : Issue #1812
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Tori Amos, "Thoughts"
In this issue:
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mona lisa smile. [ "heidi maier" <maier@joynet.com.au> ]
RE: Tori sighting [ "Dalsh 327" <dalsh327@hotmail.com> ]
Islam [ "Grzegorz Pawlowski" <sup330@mweb.c ]
trip to ny [ "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlif ]
Mona Lisa Happy [ "John Kwiatkowski" <rattlespark@hot ]
*happydance* [ Teunis Peters <winterlion@greycloak ]
sacramento bee concert review [ noam tchotchke <woj@smoe.org> ]
burning question [ Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net. ]
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 22:41:02 +1000
From: "heidi maier" <maier@joynet.com.au>
To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: mona lisa smile.
violet wrote:
>
> Tori has a small part in an upcoming film titled "Mona Lisa Smile" with
> Julia Roberts and Kirsten Dunst (and several other name people). She's
> credited as the "Wedding Singer."
yes, marcia gay harden is in it, also. i like her a lot. [and i hope to
hell she's billed FAR above kirsten dunst, she deserves that much at least!]
i've read that julia roberts portrays a feminist art history professor
teaching at wellesley university. maggie gyllenhaal and julia stiles are
also attached to the film, i think.
heidi.
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:41:42 -0700
From: "Dalsh 327" <dalsh327@hotmail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: RE: Tori sighting
So were Frank Zappa and Tupac Shakur. I've wondered if Tori had any John
Waters ties when she grew up in Baltimore.
They recently played a film on Turner Classic Movies that had Billie and
Louis Armstrong in it (forget the title, imdb.com has it)taking place in New
Orleans. I think it's the only movie she's been in. The Holliday catalog is
a vast one, and to this date there is no definitive collection. It must have
been an amazing time when you had all those masters of jazz playing small
clubs, yet most of them were sorely underappreciated while they were alive,
esp. in America. I'm grateful however to have seen Ella Fitzgerald sing in
person when I did though (at a mall, of all places)
Recently PBS had the Joni Mitchell "American Masters" on (ironic considering
she's Canadian), it's worth checking out and seeing an amazing career done
on her own terms. It's funny now hearing her talk about imitating Joan Baez,
considering how far she's gone and ahead of her time she has been. Which
goes to show it's not so bad ripping off other people's styles in the
beginning.
Tori had the comparisons to other artists (esp Kate Bush with the LE cover),
but has come into her own ever since, but compared to Joni, has never gotten
the nasty criticism that Mitchell did (esp when she went jazz, the critics
got really nasty).
From: Violet <violet@torithoughts.org>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
I had not realised until seeing this program that Billie was born in
Baltimore.
It's possible this has yet to air in some parts of the country, so keep an
eye out for a program called "Independent Lens" with the documentary title
"Strange Fruit."
Violet
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Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 09:52:29 +0200 (South Africa Standard Time)
From: "Grzegorz Pawlowski" <sup330@mweb.co.za>
To: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: Islam
Roxanne wrote:
"Because they are desperate
for relief of anykind from their impoverished and tragedy filled lives.
Islam has had a foothold in Northern Africa for centuries; it was quite
easy for it to spread down through the south. For societies and
countries that have only known caos and disorder for long periods of
time, Islam's strict social order and religous law give them something
to hold on to and believe in."
Its easy to refer to papers and articles and make crap statments. I live in
South Africa and Islam is spreading like fire here! And not because people
need some kind of structure to forget their sorrows, but because of the fact
that its a very open and understanding religion. Everywhere here in SA,
Islamic communties are creating charities and are uplifting their areas.
They are a credit to South Africa. Try doing some real research and then you
can make statements that are actually valid.
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 01:15:54 -0700
From: "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlife@hotmail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: trip to ny
none of the planes i was flying on crashed this weekend and it was really
wonderful being away from home, seeing my family and people i hadn't seen in
awhile. i would be more coherent if i wasn't so tired.
-jessica
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 16:18:22 +0000
From: "John Kwiatkowski" <rattlespark@hotmail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: Mona Lisa Happy
Violet mentioned Mona Lisa Smile
This makes me happy as Kirsten is my favorite actress.
According to IMDB (internet movie database) it's slated for release on
December 19th. For more info http://us.imdb.com/Title?0304415
6 days til Annie Lennox!
13 til Tori!!!
john
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 11:27:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Teunis Peters <winterlion@greycloaklabs.ca>
To: "RDT Right Now [yes yes :]" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: *happydance*
my birthday was -wonderful- and all you folks ('specially the ones that
sent wellwishes) absolutely are GREAT!
I've been out coming from depression am and yesterday waking up was.
Nicenice day actually. "adopted" little sister (new roommate) made
stirfry dinner *yay* (it's nice having company yes?) and I bought a cake
with money from family who couldn't be there but called and chatted a
while and then a bunch of us got together for cake + pop + hottub (WITH
bathing suits for a change :) just a couple of bestest friends.
also bought Harry Potter movie 2 and xXx an watched that but that was
early sunday morning before day. gonna get SHOES!!!! (mine are falling
apart now need new ones before these fall off feet entirely)
other than that things settling out still visiting remembering stuff..
Got another quick story about my Grandmother from when she was getting her
driver's license. Turns out she was driving this -ancient- truck, right?
Not quite crankstart (although it apparently had one that could be used as
backup) it needed handpumping to prime to start and all kinds of
tricksyness with driving. Anyways, she took this test-gentleman out (this
was umm probably in the '60s) and went for driving test. Did everything
fine but she was my Oma she always was -good- at anything she put her head
to. Anyways, ran around Pitt Meadows (nice place, looks kinda like
Holland apparently) and when she got back from driving that ancient
tricksy needing-pumping weird-controlled truck, the test gentleman - who'd
never seen anything like it - said to her "Lady if you can drive this, you
can drive anything". She got her licence and kept it right 'til she
turned it in 'cause she didn't enjoy driving anymore. (She did delivery
driving for YEARS for their greenhouse business)
who knows what else now but I've had will have am having a busy week so
hopefully everyone out there in neverneverland will keep a dream handy and
remember to see the magic in things from time to time.
Oh learning have. Am discovering romance is as necessary (to me anyways)
as lifes blood and so's peoples around who need me. Having a teenager
around the house (adopted little sister) and a lady-who-needs-company
around has been veryvery good. Noisy busy but goodgood.
(lady-who-needs-company is one of bestfriends and she and
adopted-little-sister spent lots of time together *yay* newfriends rock!)
now if only *deepsigh* could have a lady 'round home that actually wanted
to go out and date and stuff life'd be PURRFECT!
well maybe do maybe not augh feel clueless sometimes why oh why oh why do
not people say what they want???? augh mixed up clueless people like me
need LOTS of hints like beat-upside-head with baseball bat cluestick!
(read: strong DIRECT comments hints sometimes bypassed)
oh lady-who-needs-company isa friend who shouldn't be alone right now
thats all she's really cool and works in MOVIES! and automobiles she
likes fast cars. Wonder if she'll work with (Vin Diesel issat right?).
she LIKES him and she doesn't on the whole like guys mosta time.
actually a lady who's another bestfriend who's now living up waayy up
north in place-I-used-to-live complained about guys who needed beating
upside the head with a 2x4 (her description) before they realized she
liked them now comments her current boyfriend/something (they're
handfasted happily) tends to need the whole wall...
anyways that's all for now. I'm seriously stream of consciousness today
hopefully noone asks me anything complicated. *grin*
G'day, eh? :)
- Winterlion
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 09:13:02 -0400
From: noam tchotchke <woj@smoe.org>
To: torinews@smoe.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>,
rdtrn@torithoughts.org, toriphery@groups.msn.com
Subject: sacramento bee concert review
<url: http://www.sacbee.com/content/lifestyle/story/6459557p-7411307c.html >
Tori Amos rocks in solo -- or trio -- performance
By Chris Macias -- Bee Pop Music Writer
Published 2:15 a.m. PDT Tuesday, April 15, 2003
With her fluttery voice, otherworldly lyrics and flowing dress, Tori Amos
was pop music's answer to Glinda the Good Witch of the North on Sunday
night at the Memorial Auditorium. And when the acoustics were just right
and Amos' voice and piano rang through, she certainly conjured musical
magic during her two-hour set.
Since arriving on the music scene in the early 1990s, Amos has cast a
mighty spell and inspired a formidable cult following (aka "Toriphiles").
Her song themes run the gamut among God, sex and cornflakes, yet there's
often a soothing, soul-cleansing aspect to Amos' music that makes her
really deep thoughts go down easy.
In terms of instrumentation, Amos' current show is halfway between a solo
outing and a full-band lineup. It's a three-piece outfit (the Tori Amos
Trio?) that features Amos complemented by bass (Jon Evans) and drums (Matt
Chamberlain). Ideally, the setup allows Amos' intimacy to shine, but still
enables her to tackle some of the thicker sonics found in her recent work.
"Precious Things" was given a rock-hard reading by Amos' power trio, while
"A Sorta Fairytale" maintained a full, breezy vibe despite its stripped
arrangement.
As a whole, electric guitar and other instruments weren't really missed and
might have bogged down Amos' heavier songs (such as "Sugar" and "Tombigbee").
After all, Amos' piano covered plenty of ground. There was much focus on
the keyboard's lower register, and coupled with zesty rhythmic
punctuations, Amos' piano playing swirled in dramatic tones. Along with
bass guitar as an undertow, her music frequently rocked and rumbled.
Yet this emphasis on the low end wasn't a good fit for the Memorial
Auditorium's murky acoustics. Evans' bass often was rendered muddy, and the
clarity of Amos' vocals and piano was mostly sullied when the band played
at top volume.
Still, Amos' singing was full of presence, especially in a solo reading of
"Black Swan" and the all-out chorus of "Taxi Ride." True, there were traces
of road-weary grit in Amos' speaking voice and during a couple of songs,
including "Virginia." Also, non-Toriphiles may find Amos' upper-register
vocals a bit grating and too Kate Bush-ish with her fondness for
"heeeeeere" and "yee-heeee" cries. But all said, Amos' singing teemed with
range and dynamics.
Amos' mission, it seemed, was to totally captivate the crowd of 2,800,
especially during a three-song solo set ("Black Swan," "Yes, Anastasia,"
"Etienne"). Sans band, her piano and vocals had plenty of breathing room to
achieve her renowned emotional starkness and intimacy.
On the solo end, Amos also performed Fleetwood Mac's "Songbird" during the
concert's encore. Her version was fairly straightforward, especially since
she's known for radical interpretations of Slayer and Nirvana songs, but
her homage to Fleetwood Mac still hit in the right places.
The thought of an entire solo set with Amos is intriguing, and she has done
this on occasion. However, there may be too much sameness in the tone of
her solo showcases to fully pull this off.
Still, Amos' show was a well-rounded trip through her back catalog and
most-recent album, "Scarlet's Walk." In the end, the Tori Amos experience
is a bit weird, a little wild -- and, in many instances, quite wonderful.
About the Writer
---------------------------
The Bee's Chris Macias can be reached at (916) 321-1253 or cmacias@sacbee.com.
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 20:18:45 +1000
From: Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net.au>
To: Really Deep Thrusts Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: burning question
Why do Americans seem to love saying, "It's all good!"
I imagine it's from some ad campaign that we don't get, but I'd love to
know the origin of "it's all good" as an expression.
It's all good.
Brian
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