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Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 03 : Issue #1830
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Tori Amos, "Thoughts"
In this issue:
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bada bing! [ "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlif ]
Bethey's in Love.... [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ]
Life As I know It [ "Lori A Near" <nearlori@pilot.msu.e ]
soooo tired [ Succubus Megan <Abulia@imaterrorist ]
randomness [ "John Kwiatkowski" <rattlespark@hot ]
heading out [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ]
Been veerrrry busy [ Roxanne Rieske <rokzane@dimensional ]
Re: RDT Right Now #1828 [ john bragazzi <utown@worldnet.att.n ]
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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 17:31:45 -0700
From: "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlife@hotmail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: bada bing!
woohoo! sopranos and the season premiere of sex and the city TONIGHT! digest
1829 should've been called "the day after prince william turns 21 and the
day after harry potter and the order of the phoenix." i managed to read the
whole book yesterday. depressing but good. i won't say more unless anyone
else is reading it. amazing how normal harry potter is despite being so
famous in the wizarding world. it's proof that famous people are normal and
still don't understand the opposite sex!
victim of a willy wonka sugar headache,
jessica
no means yes, yes means harder.
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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 20:40:23 -0400
From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com>
To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: Bethey's in Love....
I quit smoking. Cold turkey. Thursday at noon I smoked my last cigarette
with my therapist and haven't touched another since. I got the Nicatrol
inhaler, but have only barely used it (2 cartridges in all instead of 6 - 12
per day). See, I decided any soulmate worth his stuff wouldn't want me to
be a foul tobacco smoker, so I decided to be a non-smoker. Just like that.
Funny what meeting your soulmate can make you do. And if this works out
like it feels like, it'll be the sweetest story ever (maybe campus legend).
Ready?
I had class with the Professor all last semester. Nothing sparked but our
minds. He was teaching metaphysics and I was his single advanced student.
He's this 50'ish hippie, with the greatest outlook. We really saw eye to
eye, so I decided to grab a soc class this summer with him. Peace Studies.
I'll be posting my papers soon, you should read them. The US is wholly
responsible for Hitler getting as far as he did. We had a chance to stop
him in the late 30's and decided it was none of our business. So I'm all
riled up by what I'm learning in this text book, and write these 20 page
papers the week preceding class. It was an accelerated summer session, 2
weekends, two weeks apart. So Friday night for 3 hours, Saturday from 9 to
4:30, and Sunday from 9 to 4:30 we are doing heavy discussions on this
stuff, and how wrong our nation is. The Professor just saw things the same
way I did, the same sort of solutions that escaped the rest of the class
(just like in metaphysics). But on Sunday he was using verbatim ideas from
my papers, so I told him after class that he really should give me credit
where credit was due. He told me he hadn't yet read my papers. My jaw
dropped and I told him that he thought way too much like me, it was really
scary. Then we did a double take at each other, and I saw *him* for the
first time. I pulled the usual Bethey, running out like a bunny rabbit,
without looking back.
I didn't know what I was feeling, what I had seen. He wouldn't leave my
head, he got into parts of my head that NO ONE has been in a decade. All
from a glance. I wrote that poem, but it only made it worse. So instead of
fighting it, I sat and pondered what it was. It wasn't infatuation, even
though there was a physical element to it. It wasn't love, because I don't
believe in love. Then all the words of Richard Bach came flooding back to
me. I found this Ferret Series between courses, and I think I was supposed
to be open to finding my soulmate. The Professor was my old friend. I
recognized him in a second. I felt sort of foolish for not having
recognized him in the beginning. But I wasn't looking. And I wasn't ready
last semester. I'm finally in the last stages of integration and finally
ready to be a full person.
So last Tuesday I went up to campus to drop off papers and see him. I
waited a few hours (not knowing his schedule, just knowing he had a class on
Tuesdays). I almost left when he drove in as I was driving out. I whipped
around and parked. I walked over to him and told him I'd dropped off some
papers. He looked at me and said, "Are they good?" I told him I'd had an
epiphany. He smiled, "Are you all right?" "No" I told him. "I can't eat,
I can't sleep, I can't think and it's all your fault!"
Then I asked if he had a moment to talk. We went to his office and he got a
chair cleared. I repeated my plight of insomnia and anorexia then told him
I couldn't get him out of my mind. Something happened after class Sunday
that wouldn't stop making itself known. He was blown away and didn't know
what to say. I told him he could say "I'm flattered Beth, But..." He
smiled and
said, "I'm flattered Beth....I don't know what the but would be." Then he
said
something about his last 4 girlfriends having found their husbands while
with him, so maybe something like that would happen to me. I told him I
wasn't interested in finding a husband. I wasn't looking for anyone.
"It's just that I think if someone is a soulmate, you should tell them. No
harm, no foul. Even if we aren't supposed to be romantic, it's nice knowing
someone who is part of the same spiritual fabric. No matter what, our
relationship in the classroom won't change. There'll be no oddness, no
awkwardness because of this exchange."
I told him to think about it. If something happens, great. If not, that's
good too. He was practically speechless, just stammering how "brave" I am.
I told him I'm no coward, and I have no ego really, and I had to get it out
of my head. "And now it's in yours and I can get some sleep."
But we touched hands briefly as I left, and boy, I think if anyone was
looking they could see the sparks.
Badly, it seems I was heard by a student standing in the hall, cause she was
giving me this shit eating grin while trying to sidle up to his door. Oh
Well. No harm, no foul.
That night I decided to quit smoking on Thursday, and called to leave him a
message on Wednesday to let him know I'd be tobacco-free the next we met,
and by the way, what did he have to lose? Didn't really get him out of my
head, but I was more comfortable with his presence in my mind while doing
school work. Friday night class was fine and he said he was still thinking.
Saturday, after class, I gave him a long promised aura reading. It was
really cool, and he was a bit surprised by the depth I saw there. He is so
hurt and so guarded, women have mistreated him so badly. He doesn't let any
of that show on the outside. After I was done, I asked if I could make a
proposal. After our last class, I'd like him to come to Casa del Bethey to
just sit and chill and talk. "I don't go the program, I don't date, it's
not my style. I just want to be with an old friend" is the way I put it.
He said he didn't feel "right" about that so soon, but maybe. That, and
he's working 2 classes this session, so is going 5 nights a week and then
some. Come July things calm for him. Of course, I'm taking Geology and
will scarcely have a second to spare. Cosmic Jokes, got ta love 'em. ;)
So I wrote him a letter and poured it all out, every thing I know and see
and feel (and maybe a fantasy to be?) and gave it to him privately. I
walked him out at the end of the day and I told him I'd be up on Tuesday to
drop off my last papers. I told him to enjoy the read and he nodded to
where the envelope securely tucked privately in the top of his cooler and
said "I will." I said, "I know." And now here I am on line, thinking he
won't call while I'm telling you all this. He is so wounded that I must
accept going even slower than I'd want to go, and I want to go really
freakin' slow. But I have no doubt that the Professor is my soulmate and
it's a good time for us to have met. Instead of completing each other, we
increase each other at least double. Can you imagine the impact of Two
Bethey Brains Connected to Change the World??? The world will freakin'
change if we are working it together.
So I'm happy and stressed and feeling scared and loving the fact I can feel
at all. And I can only tell people hundreds and thousands of miles away
because I can't have anyone I know know about this. It's really a small
world. I'd be surprised if there wasn't someone on this list who at least
knows someone else in my area. Rumors spread and I prefer being a private
person. I give enough of my personal truth to the public at large, I should
be able to be private in my hometown.
So what cha think? Kinda cool, huh?
Peace,
Beth
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
without accepting it. --Aristotle
www.bethcoulter.com
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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 22:26:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Lori A Near" <nearlori@pilot.msu.edu>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: Life As I know It
Ahh, it's good to open a digest and see more than two posts, and posts with
really good content... I have to say, I know why I stay subscribed to this
thing...
Thank you, everyone, for your musings on *my* musings. It's nice to just get
feedback from people who *don't* have day to day contact with you.
I've decided that I'm going to continue working on pay off as much of my debt
as possible, while studying for the GRE. Not sure what'll come of it, but
already it's making me feel like I'ma ctually *doing* something instead of just
becoming depressed about it. The car still runs, and it's getting some spots
of rust, but just spots. Not too bad for being 7 years out in Michigan weather
all the time. I put some oil in her yesterday and noticed there are parts of
the engine, though that are getting some rust. That's annoying. But, eh...
she's paid off to the bank, that's what matters right now. Oh yes, and she
runs.... that's mucho important...
So, has anyone here tackled the grad school animal? Any stories? I've got some
friends in that loop right now and just... I'm thinking of going that route,
and could use any advice I can get!
And oh my, some Tori content! I'm going to the Meadowbrooke show over in
Rochester Hills in August. Pretty crappy seats, considering I've had awesome
ones almost every show since the '98 Plugged tour. Maybe Joel will take pity
upon me and my mates...
My goodness am I disjointed tonight...
~loria
now playing: They Might Be Giants - Cowtown (anyone seen Gigantic yet? I want
to!!)
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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 00:04:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: Succubus Megan <Abulia@imaterrorist.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: soooo tired
Hola mes amies,
I came back to my dorm today after spending the weekend at home and I think that, the hour after I got back, was the point where I decided that I just...don't....care. It took me until 1 am to start on my homework and even then that was an effort. My god. I don't know what's wrong with me. I have a friggin week left and I don't want to do anything.
I need a break. I so need a break. It's either break, or breaking point with me hitting it. Fuck. Argh.
It's 3 am and I have to get up at 7:30 and I still have logic to do and I don't understand logic and there's too much to understand and GOD. Argh. I'm so bitter right now. Thank god I don't have a roommate. They'd have killed me. Damn my neuroticism.
Dude. I gotta get back to my Film Analysis paper. I'm comparing American Beauty and Meet Joe Black. Lots of similarities in those two; big theme about life/death, dysfunctional families, forbidden love affairs, etc.
God I'm tired. Screw logic. I'm finishing my paper and then i'm going to bed.
I have a CPR certification class tomorrow that I need to be awake for, too. Fuck.
How Now, Brown Cow?
Megan Christine Auffart
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 04:43:12 +0000
From: "John Kwiatkowski" <rattlespark@hotmail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: randomness
So, I really don't have a whole lot to say, but I thought I would post just
to help fill up a digest a little bit.
This weekend is gay pride here in Houston, and also a popular street
festival is breaking the law and moving back to its original location
without permission from the city. Both this are happening at the same time,
at the same place. some 200,000-250,000 people are expected to be wandering
around my neighborhood this weekend. BLECH!
I'd rather just sit at home and curl up with a book, but it's my boyfriend's
first pride so he's all excited.
I'm *really* into Alice Walker right now. Has Tori been a spring board to
other artists for you?
Examples:
Because of Tori's cover of A Case Of You I bought some Joni Mitchell cds and
fell in love with them, and her music.
Tori mentioned Possessing the Secret Of Joy in some UTP articles and it
sounded interesting so I picked it up. I had never read any Alice Walker
before and was totally amazed at her writing. Lately I'm back on an Alice
Walker kick and that's helped me get into another amazing writer. Alice
Walker mentions Zora Neale Hurston as one of her biggest influences, so I
decided to check into her. Right now I'm reading "Their Eyes Were Watching
God".
One of the things I love about Tori is how her music is so layered and
leaves you plenty of opportunities to dig deeper and discover other things
you like.
I guess that's it really. I'd love to hear other "what Tori has opened you
up to" stories :)
take care,
john k
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 06:23:31 -0400
From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com>
To: nothing@cobalty.com, precious0147@hotmail.com, jodihorner77@hotmail.com,
nicolethurman28@hotmail.com, mjcentral@hotmail.com,
mjfansreunion@yahoogroups.com, rdtrn@torithoughts.org,
lyricallacquer@hotmail.com, airport8@hotmail.com, katgrrrl01@hotmail.com,
Northernlad111@yahoo.com
Subject: heading out
Well it's Tuesday morning, everybody, and I'm heading out to
Oklahoma... *looks at watch*... as soon as my dad gets up and we get
ready to go.... yep.. any minute now...
ANYWAY.. I'm going to be there for a couple of weeks. Yes, I'll
have internet access, so I'll be able to email ppl and so on, at least.
:) This is my last email for the day as we're going to be driving for
14-16 hours without any stops (overnight, that is.).
So on that note.. LATER! :)
Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford
http://www.icenine.org/cyndi/ --
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/368/ciara_blaze.html --
http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ --
http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/clique.html
"I know we're dying / and there's no sign of a parachute / we scream in
cathedrals / why can't it be beautiful / why does there gotta be a
sacrifice?" -- Tori Amos
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:13:28 -0600
From: Roxanne Rieske <rokzane@dimensional.com>
To: "Really Deep Thoughts, Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: Been veerrrry busy
hey all,
Been busy as heck over here. school, school, and more school
and in the the process of purchasing a condo.
To make it all worse, my bunny had to go into surgery this
week to have a bladder stone removed. Hopefully she'll be
able to come home today.
Violet, have you ever heard of a bunny developing a bladder
stone? my vet was a little amazed. We're trying to determine
what caused it.
Oh, and FYI, I do not recommend joining the yahoo group
Pandora's Aquarium if you as outspoken as I am. I posted a
disagreement to something someone else wrote and all hell
broke loose. Next thing I know, I'm booted. And they boot
lurkers, how lame is that? Losers.
Roxanne
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These, precious things, let them break, their hold on me.
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:20:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: john bragazzi <utown@worldnet.att.net>
To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: Re: RDT Right Now #1828
I sent the other one before I meant to. It was done, but I had intended
to put a snazzier subject line on it. Oh, well.
Bethey said:
> I still have 3000 words on solving the current world problems and
> bringing a lasting peace and it is supposed to be realistic.
Yes, but when you figure it out, you can post it here.
> Better yet, can you just walk up to someone you've known for 6 months
> and say, "I just noticed you were my soulmate. Do you remember we
> promised to meet again?"
Well, you can, but it's often not a good idea.
Of course, mostly that hasn't stopped me, and I would have had a pretty
boring life if I'd kept those kinds of thoughts to myself all the time.
Sometimes it's better to say them early, just because if you become really
good friends with the person, and you know that there's a chance of
messing that up, the urge to hold back can become stronger and stronger
because there's more at stake.
Just my opinion, and this is not a field where I can claim any expertise.
As B/4,
John
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