RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #1833

RDT Right Now #1833

From: Scotch <scotch@torithoughts.org>
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 13:52:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: RDT Right Now #1833
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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to: <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the subject and body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 03 : Issue #1833 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o oh, liz [ "arija" <arija.weddle@yale.edu> ] Taxivision [ Violet <violet@torithoughts.org> ] moo [ Succubus Megan <Abulia@imaterrorist ] Michael Moore's Letter to the Presid [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ] delurking [ k h <kashmiri69@yahoo.com> ] sod you too [ Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net. ] Re: Matrix replies [ Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.de ] BethCoulter.com Updated [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ] Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 19:21:10 -0400 From: "arija" <arija.weddle@yale.edu> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: oh, liz > $$$ Exile In Sk8er-Boi-ville digest $$$ yeah. pitchforkmedia.com gave it a rating of 0.0 although liz phair could start covering kenny g songs and would STILL be cooler than jewel showing her pubic hair on diva duets live. arija == "We loved the Latvians again. They were tough as nails and they used the available light. They made their light into fire." -- Dave Eggers, You Shall Know Our Velocity -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 19:39:29 -0700 From: Violet <violet@torithoughts.org> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Taxivision So on the incredibly unlikely chance that there's anyone who hasn't seen this already, here's a message from Tori about the Taxivision contest: Just a note to first thank everyone for their submissions to the Taxivision Contest. We received an overwhelming response. Finally, after a lot of thought, debate and popcorn, we have narrowed it down to 9. Check out the finalists on http://www.toriamos.com/taxivision, which are in no particular order, and tell me what you think by voting for your favorite. I really appreciate all the blood, sweat and tears that everyone put into this project. I believe these entries deserve our time and consideration so I'm asking as many of you as I can to support these artists by voting. I'm curious to know what you think. Then I'll tell you what I think. This just proves that the visual arts community is alive and well and inspiring us without the funding or the control of the commercial giants (not that funding sucks). Sending a big thanks. -Tori So pop over, check out the videos, and share your thoughts here about what you think! I'd love to hear everyone's opinions. Also, since I'm actually here and posting, I've been meaning to mention for a while now that if any of you are on Livejournal, if you'll add "rdtrn" to your Interests list, you can find some other RDTers over there. Not many at the moment, but maybe over time there will be more. There are tons of EWF on Livejournal ... so RDTers, represent! Violet xoxox -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 22:11:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Succubus Megan <Abulia@imaterrorist.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: moo Hola mes amies, Concerning a certain famous book, I finally got to read Harry Potter, so I feel much better! But since I went kinda sorta insane about it in my previous post, I'm not gonna say much about what I thought of the book except that I give it 8/10 gold stars. Concerning summer, god bless it! Concerning the phrase 'god bless it', I feel it's very overused, especially when used as a patriotic phrase. I typed the first sentence of this paragraph and literally cringed at the end of it. It's just one of those phrases that, for some strange reason, really gets on my nerves. And I just used it. I'm such a hypocrite. Concerning Tori, I still don't like Scarlet's Walk. I like about 3 songs of the entire thing. I hope her next album contains songs that actually sound...oh, say, DIFFERENT from each other. Just sayin. Concerning exercise, I've noticed how much less tiring it was to walk up the huge-ass hill on my street. I must have gotten stronger legs since last year. Concerning lychees, they're now my favorite fruit, even displacing pomegranates (for the moment). I'm trying to grow a lychee seed in a pot outside, but I doubt it'll live that long, since I live in Pennsylvania and lychees are a tropical fruit. Still, it'll be neat to see if it'll grow. Concerning my current mental health, I've been finding it very hard to think properly, recently. I don't know what's up with my brain. Fall out from the endless studying of June? Quite possible! ...And I think now's the time to end this email, before I start making sense. How Now, Brown Cow? Megan Christine Auffart *************************************** "I like money better than people. People can so rarely be exchanged for goods and/or services!" - Buffy the Vampire Slayer *************************************** http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/abulia/ _____________________________________________________________ Sign up for FREE insane email from tshirthell.com's E-Mail Hell at http://www.tshirthell.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 14:19:20 -0400 From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Michael Moore's Letter to the President Can You Please Do Better Than a Rose Bush? By Michael Moore, MichaelMoore.com June 30, 2003 Dear Lt. George W. Bush, I hope you don't mind me referring to you by the only true military rank you ever achieved, that being the one from your on-again, off-again "days" in the, um, Texas Air National Guard. Ever since I saw you in that flyboy outfit, landing on that ship, I assumed you now wanted to be addressed by your military title, as opposed to the civilian rank imposed on you by your dad's friends. So, Lieutenant, I was wondering, would you do me a favor? Could you please do better than a rose bush? I saw the guy on TV yesterday that your boys found, the Iraqi who said he had "planted" some nuclear plans in his "back yard" in Baghdad - 12 years ago - "under a rose bush." Woo boy. That's a good one. Do you really think we are as dumb as we look? I know our fascination with "American Idol" and Scott Peterson may make us Americans look a little light in the head, but when it comes to lying to us to lead us into war, we really do demand a bit more of an effort and a follow-through. You see, George, it's not the lying and the doctoring of intelligence that has me all upset. It's that you've had control of Iraq for over two months now - and you couldn't even find the time to plant just a few nukes or vats of nerve gas and at least make it look like you weren't lying to us. You see, by not faking some evidence of weapons of mass destruction, it shows that you thought no one would mind if it turned out you made everything up. A different kind of president, who believes that the American public would be outraged if they ever found out the truth, would go to great lengths to cover up his subterfuge. Johnson did it with the Gulf of Tonkin. He said our ships were "attacked" by the North Vietnamese. They weren't, but he knew he had to at least make it look like it happened. Nixon said he wasn't "a crook," but he knew that wasn't enough, so he paid hush money to the burglars and somehow had 18 1/2 minutes erased from a tape in the Oval Office. Why did he do this? Because he knew the American people would be pissed if they found out the truth. Your blatant refusal to back up your verbal deception with the kind of fake evidence we have become used to is a slap in our collective American face. It's as if you are saying, "These Americans are so damn apathetic and lazy, we won't have to produce any weapons to back up our claims!" If you had just dug a few silo holes in the last month outside Tikrit, or spread some anthrax around those Winnebagos near Basra, or "discovered" some plutonium with that stash of home movies of Uday Hussein feeding his tigers, then it would have said to us that you thought we might revolt if you were caught in a lie. It would have shown us some respect. We honestly wouldn't have cared if it later came out that you planted all the WMD - sure, we'd be properly peeved, but at least we would have been proud to know that you knew you had to back up your phony claims with the real deal! I guess you finally figured that out this week. It started to appear that millions of us were calling you on your bluff - those "fictitious reasons for the fictitious war." So you quickly produced this man and his rose bush and some 12-year-old piece of paper and some metal parts. CNN broke in at 5:15pm and screamed they had the exclusive! "IRAQI NUCLEAR PLANS FOUND!" But a few good reporters started asking some hard questions - and, barely three hours later, your own administration was forced to admit the plans were "not the smoking gun" proving that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Oops. Never a good idea to rely on a bush, Lieutenant. Yours, Michael Moore PS. Sorry, I still can't get that padded flyboy suit out of my head. I know, I need help. But when you landed on that carrier, and that banner read, "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED," just what mission was that that was accomplished? 'Cause by my count, more than 50 of our young soldiers have died since you said the mission was accomplished. Anarchy still reigns in Iraq, the Brits are losing kids too, and wacko fundamentalists now seem to ready to rule the land. Women are already being told to cover their faces and shut their mouths, store owners who sell liquor have been executed and movie theaters showing "immoral" Hollywood movies have been forced to shut down. And hey, this isn't even west Texas! Maybe you could get back into that jumpsuit, fly over to Baghdad and land at the former Saddam International Airport, jump out and give one of those big happy waves - under a sign that reads, "MISSION IMPOSSIBLE." -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 11:58:53 -0700 (PDT) From: k h <kashmiri69@yahoo.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: delurking I figure if Julio's making an appearance, it's time for my bi-yearly posting. I've been in the shadows for years, since the days of Kosky actually. Jessica said: "you missed joe p(oh my god i forgot his last name). i fucking love the sopranos a hell of a lot. anyway, if anyone else loves the sopranos as much as i do, jump in. i think it's the best tv show ever" Joe Pantoliano is the name you're looking for. Man, his character in the Sopranos, Ralphie, a sick sick puppy. I think he's going to be in his own series this fall on one of the major networks. Can't recall the details. But yeah, the Sopranos, love the show. I really enjoyed the first couple seasons. Have to say my fave show on HBO is Oz though. It was the one show that completely blew me away with every episode. It was truly brutal but I still liked it. >From Brian: "driving a 22 year old car." 67 austin healey over here. I'm not actually driving it right now. Got some work to do on it yet. But I can't give it up. I love that car and it's so easy to work on! None of that electronic stuff that gets me all tangled up. >From Cyndi: "This is my last email for the day as we're going to be driving for 14-16 hours without any stops. Here's wishing you a safe trip. I'm well acquainted with marathon drives. Last fall it was Maine to Moab in 2 days. And coops again: "It doesn't necessarily have to have racist connotations, it goes back to simple white=good, light, safe and black=bad, dark, dangerous." I just returned from Bali. I like their approach to black and white. They have black and white checked cloth draped all over the place. It's a good karma/bad karma thing and they see the two shades as balancing each other out. I'm sure this is oversimplification on my part but that's the drift I got from it. For them, I don't think there is any racial motivation. "Wuss. That's nothing to the time I had a tetanus shot in one arm, meningitis, cholera and typhoid in the other and a huge horse needle of gamma globulin in my butt. I couldn't sleep on either side or on my back for two nights, not to mention feeling really ill from that cocktail." I was looking for this same cocktail prior to my trip to Bali. I didn't get much of it though. I tried ordering a few of the above from the pharmacy and the looks I got were picture worthy. Most never arrived before I was leaving so I blew them off. Not that I had a choice. So where were you headed senor Cooper that required this special blend? Oh, and I have a newfound respect for bathrooms now. Even miniscule is fine. And to Scotch, hope you didn't do too much damage to require that booster. That's enough babbling from me. winter __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 17:27:05 +1000 From: Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net.au> To: Really Deep Thrusts Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: sod you too To answer Jessica's question, I think I'm wearing one of my favourite articles of clothing at the moment. It's a rugby jumper (not like that Old Navy crap) of no discernable origin. When people ask me what club it is I've got no idea as it was one my father had and he couldn't even tell me that. Nice to see the prodigal arsewipe, Slape has returned. Love you too. He wrote in #1832... >So far my American sojourn has been reasonably good. >I have enjoyed eating different breakfast cereals, Wonderfully full of sugar, aren't they? Even the "healthy" ones. At least they taste good, even if the names are a little funny. >getting picked up for saying things like >elevator and holiday, Great pickup lines, aren't they? Tell me, do people accuse you of being English? I got that all the time over there. >Also, your beer sucks. As does your >wine, what little of it I've tried. What about the cheese, my friend? Well I'm hoping you're teaching those Americans how to play Flaming Arseholes while you're there. You might want to introduce them to "Soggy Sao" as well, but I do believe they've got their own version of that. And sod you too, which is legal now in some states, so thanks to Jessica who isn't wearing any underpants for pointing that out. >Careful, Coops. Don't you think that the whole >good=white, bad=black thing might be based in racial issues? When you put it in that context it does sound that way. But I think the connotations of black being bad go way back further than any race related issues. Try going back to caveman days, where night was something to be feared because of the unseen. Race probably wasn't an issue for millions of years, but it is because society has made it so. But even in African cultures, they'll talk about "dark powers" and such, so is that race related? The point I was making in my original post on this was that the fear of darkness (black, night, whatever) goes much further than any racial stereotype. It's only racial because society say it's so. Here's an interesting factoid on this subject from The Book Of Useless Information by Keith Waterhouse and Richard Littlejohn... "Almost all villians in the Bible have red hair." I guess I'm one of the bad guys after all. John B. replied to Megan C.A. with: >You don't want to know about how Hermione seems to die but is really >possessed by a cosmically powerful entity called the Phoenix? Scotch's thought of the day was: >$$$ Exile In Sk8er-Boi-ville digest $$$ Now I know he has been listening to the new Liz Phair. I think the new album is being released here next week, but promos and copies of promos have been doing the rounds since February. Nearly all the reviews centre on Liz's work with Avril's producers and how detrimental it is to her career. I've got no idea as I haven't even heard those songs and it'll be hard to not make a judgement when I do hear them considering what I've read. Brian -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 20:37:11 -0700 From: Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.devin.com> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Re: Matrix replies John B. wrote: > LDRs can work, though they are not always easy. Of course, I haven't > encountered any kinds of relationships which *were* easy, so I guess that > goes without saying. *nodding enthusiastically* I think that's a good way of looking at it. The thing is, Devin and I have a good track record of communication & commitment to each other. I just hope this opportunity pans out for him. If we're going to be apart, I want us both to be happy, you know? > Hey, when I pay $10 to see a movie, I shouldn't have to go see a bunch of > other things in order to understand it. Did you see the first "Matrix?" Would "Reloaded" have made sense if you hadn't seen it? > It's certainly understandable that everybody has those weird names. After > all, when they were awakened, it's not like they had names at that point, > except in the Matrix, and those would probably seem like slave names > (hence Agent Smith's insistance on calling Neo "Mister Anderson"). So, > they'd take whatever names they wanted. Well, but who named Neo Neo? Wasn't that his little online handle on the network where he was first looking for Morpheus? Perhaps all those names are handles of some kind - very aptly-fitting handles, sure. But of course, the "computer network" - ie this world we think we're living in - should be the one where the handles get used, right? And the other realm, the one where Zion is, should be the place where people's Truenames are used. I think Smith just says "Mister Anderson" because it sounds more foreboding. :) Brian asked: > I read something recently that suggested most people button shirts from > the bottom up. I know I always do it from the top button down. What do > other people do? Top down, although I admit I've only worn button-up shirts in recent years. Often I'll just unbutton the top one or two and pull them over my head. But you all knew I was a little bit unique. 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