RDT Right Now #1837

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Really Deep Thoughts Right Now			Volume 03 : Issue #1837

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                                         Tori Amos, "Thoughts"
In this issue:
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  a bit of sad, a lot of happy          [ "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlif ]
  God Money                             [ Succubus Megan <Abulia@imaterrorist ]
  What happens when we die?             [ Jim <jimphynn@comcast.net> ]
  squish                                [ "Madame Ade" <alexandriasisp@hotmai ]
  it's even funnier now than it was th  [ "John Bragazzi" <wasserman@operamai ]
  masturbation and suicide              [ "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlif ]
  stupid white man                      [ John Bragazzi <utown@worldnet.att.n ]
  4 weeks tobacco free!!!               [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ]
  help me, pleaaaaaaaaase!              [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ]



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Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 19:32:09 -0700
From: "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlife@hotmail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: a bit of sad, a lot of happy

I just have to say that when I get to the end of a digest, I get a little 
sad because I know that it will be 3-4 days before I get to read another 
one. and then brian says something about me being hot-assed in jeans and the 
happiness comes once again...
i found out today that my roommate got back into college. this makes me 
supremely happy because i don't want to fill out a roommate application this 
summer for TWO roommates next year instead of one. also, the two of us are 
work managers for next year in our house of 65 people and if I had to do the 
job alone, i'd chew on my own skin in frustration and yell at everyone all 
the time.
i'm now the proud owner of a pretty pink vibrator. it's beautiful and works 
wonderfully. it's like magic with C batteries. :D if you can't have dick, 
lips arms and a second warm body...gotta get the next best thing.


-jessica




the only time we don't speak is during speak is during sex and the city. she 
gets carrie-fever but as soon as the show's over she's right back to being 
my soldier.          --jay-z


i'm gonna fuck you softly. i'm gonna screw you gently. i'm gonna hump you 
sweetly. i'm gonna bone you discreetly. but then i'm gonna fuck you hard.    
                        --tenacious d

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Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:51:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Succubus Megan <Abulia@imaterrorist.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: God Money

Hola mes amies,


I have a question for anyone at all who could possibly answer it.  Anyone.  Even the insane stalker I probably don't have who may or may not know the answer.   

How does one get a good career in advertising?  

You see, I think that I would kick bloody ass at this job.  I enjoy watching commercials and criticizing them, thinking of ways to make them better.  Often, I startle my father with my loud and obnoxious complaints and then he's all like, 'Well, when you make your OWN commercials, you can just show them how it's done, now won'tcha?' and I'm all like, 'hmpth'.  

So how does one go into advertising?  I'm a Creative Writing major, but I think that that's gonna be helping me in this area, because you have to be creative, original, to get people to pay attention to you.  

I mean, I can't tell one dog food commercial from the other, they're all so boring.  ...Of course, sitting here right now I can't think of anything good to suggest for a dog food commercial, but nevermind that.  

And I _want_ to be a world renowned poet, but that ALSO depends on advertising, and getting my future books into as many hands as possible.  But I also think I could do a second job on the side, the same way that I write in between assignments at college and high school.  

So how would you suggest I do that?  I would ask my adviser at college except for the fact that, hey!, I'm at home, so I'm going to my fellow RDTRNers (most of whom probably have jobs) for advice. 

Many thanks.  And much sleepiness. 

How Now, Brown Cow? 

Megan Christine Auffart 

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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 07:08:43 -0400
From: Jim <jimphynn@comcast.net>
To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: What happens when we die?

Bethey speaks of the immortal:

> All I know
> is that I am eternal, and I will remain eternal.  Everyone should know 
> that
> about themselves.  Oh, wait, I guess organized religion would frown on 
> my
> ideas, huh?

Not all organized religions.  Not Hinduism, Buddhism, and certainly not 
Unitarian Universalism.  Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, and the likes of 
them, yes, but I don't particularly care what either of them think or 
believe anyway.

I kind of like the idea of being a part of some cosmic energy field.  
In the grand scheme of things, we already are.  When you're with a 
small group of people who are very upbeat, doesn't it spread throughout 
the room, to newcomers?  Similarly, if everyone's feeling blue, 
wouldn't that spread, too?

I believe nothing.  If religions are there first and foremost to tell 
us what happens after we die, I think they fail miserably.  One thing I 
don't quite understand is, why do so many otherwise pious people have 
such an incredible fear of dying?  Whether we're talking about the 
Christian view of heaven and infinite paradise, or the Muslim heaven 
and the seventy two virgins, all of these things are really cool.  If 
they were true, why is it that people -- ones who actually do believe 
these possibilities -- are as afraid of dying as they are?  (And I'd 
imagine that the virgins would get kind of old kind of quickly.  Sure 
you've got the novelty of the first few, but I'm guessing that I'd want 
a pro before I reached virgin number ten or so....  "Good try, but this 
time try it without your teeth!")

I wonder if it's ironic, taking my own beliefs into account, that I 
have no fear of dying.  If it happens too soon, surely there will be 
things I would wish I had done, but I'll accept that.  I would rather 
die suddenly than spend six months in a coma or similar vegetative 
state.

But that's just me.

Jim

Jim Goldman                                                    
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:29:06 +0000
From: "Madame Ade" <alexandriasisp@hotmail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: squish

Hi all!  Been lurking a while... bad Ade!  Anyway, "Taxi Ride" is a great 
song to sing along to while driving home from work at 7 am after a long 
night of packing hard hats.  What fun.

Megan said:
>A lychee is about the same size as a small testicle, but if only that 
>testicle had a bumpy, bright-red skin that you could peel off with your 
>fingers to a smooth, white center.

Oh wow... that description is hilarious.

Well, tomorrow I'll be off to the Alpha writing workshop with Megan.  
Cheerio, darlings.

-ade

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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:16:36 +0800
From: "John Bragazzi" <wasserman@operamail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: it's even funnier now than it was then

Bethany said:

> the woman's not made
> for the Britney crowd, and she's probably not any good at it.

This is always the most hilarious part.  Purists (musicians and others) always put down anybody who "sells out" (or anybody who even seems like they *might* sell out), but the plain fact is that most weird/indy/alt/outside musicians couldn't make a real hit record if they tried.  

OTOH, many people like alt cred just fine, but wouldn't mind making a little money, in addition.  I remember reading a Christina Ricci interview where she talked about this.  Her statement was (in essence) that people were always willing to criticize her choice of more mainstream roles, but those same people weren't lining up to help pay her bills.


Gabriela said:

> I saw "Spirited Away" and loved it - I was one of two people in the room!

I've got to see that.  It opened and closed here before I had a chance to catch it.  I did love "Princess Mononoke."

The other movie I need to see is "Masked and Anonymous" (which is actually being released, much to my surprise).  It co-stars (and was supposedly co-written by) Bob Dylan, it was almost universally hated at Cannes, and it apparently makes no sense at all.  How bad can it be?

It *could* be as good as "Renaldo & Clara" (but I'm not holding my breath).

BTW, I'm hoping R&C will come out on video someday, but I'm not holding my breath about that either.


M.C. Auffart (yo) said:

> How many on the list believe in Heaven and Hell?  How many in reincarnation?

Unless you're referring to the Who song (which I love), not me.  As my father used to say, you only live once, and if you do it right, once is enough.


Jessica said:

> ok i think we need to have a conversation about tipping.

Cow-tipping?

Oh, sorry.  Well, I think you tip a waiter or waitress to acknowledge good service (assuming there was any).  Bartenders are different, because a tip is not only a recognition of good service, it's a way to *get* good service.  You probably won't get several meals in the same day from the same waitress or waiter, but you will almost certainly get many drinks in one night from the same bartender.  Tip well the first time, and you get good service for the rest of the night.  Even if people are three deep at the bar, you'll get your drink.  Maybe even a free one as the evening goes on.

As B/4,

John

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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 23:30:15 -0700
From: "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlife@hotmail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: masturbation and suicide

I was reading today on yahoo! that australian researchers discovered that 
men between the ages of 20 and 50 who masturbate frequently are at a lower 
risk of developing prostate cancer which I think is one of the leading 
killers of men in this country. anyway, keep masturbating constantly. we 
need to keep the good ones alive. on a sad note, apparently oral 
contraceptives increase the rate of cervical cancer. damn, i feel like the 
news poster around here sometimes.

on a really depressing note, i found out that one of my friends who is 
schizo went off his meds in may because his doctor suggested it and has 
tried to kill himself twice in the past two weeks. it was a vicious cycle. 
his meds made him sick, he would puke, get stoned so he could eat and then 
it would repeat. the first time i got high with him, he puked first. he 
smokes constantly just so he can eat. interesting that he gets straight As 
too. anyway, his parents put him in a hospital and now he's back in. i 
really hope he gets the help he needs. it's weird because he's really into 
buddhism and trying to achieve enlightenment. he told our friend jessica 
that he needed to die because he had pissed the gods off and he didn't 
deserve internal peace and had to die to avenge them or something. she said 
that it would have been funny had he not been totally serious. sigh. anyway, 
he's very lucky that he has loving parents to help him. the first thing he 
needs is a new doctor and some new medication that won't make him puke 
constantly. who wants to live like that...

what books has everyone been reading? at a funeral in april, someone told me 
to read Atonement and I'm finally getting around to it. it's good so far but 
i need to spend some quality hours being a bookworm.

yay, i have about 12 days til i see tori. i'm hoping for cooling and famous 
blue raincoat. also, another girl's paradise would be heaven but she only 
played that once last year so hopes are oh-so slim. well, fuck it. they are 
slim for all three songs but i need to keep my *pray and play* song streak 
alive.

i've had a four day craving for chinese food....mmmmmmm.

-jessica

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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:21:26 -0400
From: John Bragazzi <utown@worldnet.att.net>
To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: stupid white man

Nell said:

> when has he ever been in a completely horrid movie? Why practically 
> never! Think about it. Ed Wood? Icabod
> Crane? Gilbert Grape?

Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas!

>From Hell!

The Ninth Gate!

Dead Man, for goodness sake!

Johnny Depp makes the best decisions of any actor I can think of.  Even 
when he goes mainstream (Donnie Brasco), it's a very good movie.


Plus, as it says on imdb, "Sometimes Credited As: Oprah Noodlemantra"

I think that says it all.


Winterlion said:

> But the strongest majority (as far as I can tell) came to a new life.

And some came because they didn't have a choice.  An increase of freedom 
for some, but a marked decrease for others.

As B/4,

John


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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 23:54:30 -0400
From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com>
To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: 4 weeks tobacco free!!!

I'm so proud of myself.  When I get super stressed, I grab a herbal
cigarette (honeyrose is like smoking marshmallows and the vanilla flavor is
also yummy, 5 a day at most), so am never even tempted to buy real
cigarettes.  I haven't gained any weight, but I've been super stressed, so
that keeps my anorexia primed.

Most of the stress has been due to my "rocks" class.  We had our first test
on Monday.  I spent all weekend studying, feeling it was all hopeless.  I
made a practice test out of my study guide, and took it three times.  See,
when I am handed a test in school, within 5 minutes, a complete freeze comes
over me and I just sit and look at the paper without a clue how to answer.
So I decided to just plunge in, answer the first thing that came to mind and
never look back.  It was a minimum 20 minute/ max hour long test on plate
tectonics and Precambrian history.  I sped through it, never hesitating,
never thinking, just writing the first thing in my mind or the first answer
that rang true (half short answer/half multiple choice).  After 5 minutes, I
stood up, handed the test to the teacher and said, "I'm out of here!"  He
said, "You've got to be kidding.  Do you have someplace to be?"  I told him,
"No.  I just hate tests so much that I have to do them fast before I freeze.
See ya in an hour."  I sat and listened to some music on my walkman out on
the lawn and meditated to calm down.  I was really freaking and thinking I'd
totally flubbed it.

I scored a 101 (over the curve).  The teacher let me know it's a new science
legend, a feat never to be beat.  I don't know how I did it.  I don't feel I
understand it clearly at all.  I keep saying to myself, prove this is
happening other than by seeing stuff and guessing that's what's going on!  I
suppose I understand it better than I thought.  Or I just know how to study
well.

My professor is having a huge crapfest in his life, so I'm giving him a bit
of a breather.  He's definitely interested, but not when all hell has broken
loose in his personal life.  Just as long as he stays interested, so will I.
Personal experience with crapfests help me be patient and sympathetic.
Besides, I'm not going anywhere.  He's not going anywhere.  This feeling
isn't going anywhere.

Yes, there are definitely people who are soulmates.  A soulmate is someone
that you intuitively understand, once you give yourself half a second to
think about it outside of the ego.  I can't explain to you all the immense
changes I've gone through in the past month or so.  I've had so many
epiphanies that it spins my head.  Every day I learn something else about
myself.  I'm walking around with my heart wide open and quite all right with
it.  I'm reading "Gandhi" and finding my own words leaping off the page to
me.

I feel I am beginning a new journey.  It's a very interesting feeling.

Fairy Blessings,
Bethey
I'm OK when Everything's not OK
cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say
And I have always been a Fairy.

www.bethcoulter.com

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Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 03:03:19 -0400
From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org, GAearswithfeet@yahoogroups.com,
   jodihorner77@hotmail.com
Subject: help me, pleaaaaaaaaase!

Everybody:

        I'm trying to pursue a little "just-cuz-I-want-to" project of
making a documentary on Tori.. I've got an editing machine and the
capabilities, and I just bloody wanna do it. Now.. being that I only just
became a Toriphile as of February 2002, I'm rather short on footage. I'm
not talking bootlegged concert footage, I'm talking TV appearances,
interviews, performances, copies of her videos since '98.. that kinda
stuff. Anybody who has this.. or who knows someone that has this.. PLEASE
contact me. I'd really appreciate it.

Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford
http://www.icenine.org/cyndi/ --
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/368/ciara_blaze.html --
http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ --
http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/clique.html
"I know we're dying / and there's no sign of a parachute / we scream in
cathedrals / why can't it be beautiful / why does there gotta be a
sacrifice?" -- Tori Amos

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