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Date:
Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:53:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:
RDT Right Now #1841
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Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 03 : Issue #1841
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Tori Amos, "Thoughts"
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i fucking hate thinking of subjects [ "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlif ]
Re: RDT Right Now #1840 [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ]
I'm back from outer space [ "Lavenda" <earth@comcen.com.au> ]
tori in eugene or [ "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlif ]
welcome to mutant high [ "John Bragazzi" <wasserman@operamai ]
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Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 23:58:12 -0700
From: "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlife@hotmail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: i fucking hate thinking of subjects
i just have to say that i'm seeing tori tomorrow. haven't seen her since
2000 and that show kind of sucked even though everyone told me i had a great
setlist. last time i saw her at a GOOD show was 1998 at the same place.
outdoor ampitheater...river behind it.....gigantic lawn....no assigned
seating...how can you go wrong? it's one of the best places to see her in
the NW...aside from the gorge in WA which i've heard is fucking great.
anyway, i'm excited. i didn't realize until after reading that msn chat that
violet posted that she's gonna be 40 soon. shit i hope i look that great
when i'm 40. well, i won't be humping a piano bench, that's for sure.
will someone please tell me why some girls are so obsessed with diamond
rings or just getting the ring? today i went shopping with my friend and her
mom and i practically had to drag her out of the jewelry store. i was
looking and i thought, if i ever sniff crack and decide to marry, it better
be a small ring and he can't spend more than $1000. i'm thinking $500 would
be a better limit. and the engagement ring and the wedding ring are the same
thing. why buy ANOTHER ring? what's the point? i think i'm in the minority
here. oh, and it has to be small, too. anyway, i said that in front of the
jeweler and she looked at me like i HAD sniffed crack. i'd much rather a guy
spend that money on a honeymoon or something for our house or even part of a
down payment on a house. it's something so much more valuable and something
for BOTH people to contribute to. i love rings a lot but...maybe i'm cheap.
anyway...just had to vent. it was hard to get my friend out of the store.
then i had to sit by as she bought two pairs of stilettos. stilletos?
anyway, ow. i'd break my ankle probably. and c'mon, shoes that tiny don't
look that good on girls with big feet like me. she has a size 5 shoe...i
wear an 11. maybe there is a little bit of pain to be beautiful but killing
your feet sucks.
going to bed now...
goodnight.
-jessica
Don't become so tolerant that you tolerate intolerance. --Bill Maher
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Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 19:36:25 -0400
From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: Re: RDT Right Now #1840
okely dokely. I'm......... bored. so.. here I am. :)
to start things off, HAPPY BIRTHDAY, CANTON! :) I hope it's been a
beautiful one. :)
all right.. I've been listening to Green Day, Bif Naked, Orgy, Marilyn
Manson, Nine Inch Nails and (*gasp*) Michael Jackson and Rocky Horror and
(of course) Tori.. and I am in an incredible "FUCK YOU, FUCK THEM, FUCK
EVERYTHING" ish mood. anybody care to help me understand WHY? I mean..
aside from pure fucking boredom..? the dog days of fucking summer. :P I'm
sitting in my bloody HOT room with three damned fans blowing on me and
I'm still sweating like Tori in August at the end of a two-hour set of
doing things to her piano and piano bench whilst entertaining her devoted
EWF/Toriphiles. HELP!!!!!!! oh yeah and I have to get up at 5:30 in the
morning tomorrow in order to get to school by 8:00 (out the door at six,
on the MARTA--which is the Atlanta equivalent of a subway, so to
speak--at seven, at school by eight.). fuck. FUCK. I'm... in an
aggressive mood. I guess you can blame boredom and damn good angry-type
music and just summer. lol... la de da de da... lunchbox.. la la la.. pow
pow pow.. la la la. okay.
ON WITH THE REPLIES! maybe somebody can cure my boredom-caused
aggression...? let's hope so.
quoth the Bethey: "I spend days working on study guides and making
practice tests that I take over and over so I have half a chance to get
an "A". I know that NO ONE studies like I do, that it is definite
overkill, but it's the only way I know."
*clings to your leg* Betheyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy... TEACH ME HOW TO
STUDY! seriously. I do NOT know how to study, and I'm sure that is why I
don't do as well as I should be doing in my classes.. help? me? please?
*flutters Bambi eyelashes at you*
Bethany says: "Rolling Stone now has this deal that you can be subscribed
for THE REST OF YOUR LIFE for $99. too bad it's a sucky mag."
that's why they have the "the rest of your life for $99" deal,
isn't it? :P seriously. :)
Sayeth Bethany on that "Please stop laughing at me" book: "i think it
really touched on something that most books on this subject didn't: that
even the most well-meaning and loving parents are still clueless as to
how to help a child or teen who's being bullied and abused by her peers."
lucky for me that my mom was a teacher at my school in middle
school when I was picked on relentlessly. she was my last source of
sanity in that fucking building. home life was much easier, of course,
but.. school life was pure shit, yes. lol.. but it's not being picked on
that tore me up so much as why I was picked on.. and that's because
people can be closeminded and stupid about people with disabilities.
(like me.)
quoth the Estraven: "Would you like Freedom Fries with that, Senator?"
yes, and I'd like a side of Freedom toast with that.. and my
grandmother has a phone that looks like a cell phone but is only a
portable that says "Freedom Phone" on it and I said "say, was this a
French Phone at one time or another?" and my mom laughed. :)
SPEAKING of my mom.. I'm all fucking alone in the house cuz my
parents left today at 5:30 in the morning to go fly away to Massachusetts
for a week-long visit with my dad's aunt.. the entire house is empty
except for me and the dogs. that's probably part of why I'm so fucking
aggravated/bored, etc.. :-\ ya think?
says the Scotch: "$$$ Elvish Has Left The Building digest $$$"
how do you say "thank you.. thankyouverymuch.. uh huh uh huh.."
in Elvish anyway?
and on that note... WEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!! I also have a new EP for sale
on mp3.com. :) just follow the appropriate link below. :P yes, I'm a
publicity whore. help me out and spread the word. please? :)
Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford
http://www.icenine.org/cyndi/ --
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/368/ciara_blaze.html --
http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ --
http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/clique.html
"I know we're dying / and there's no sign of a parachute / we scream in
cathedrals / why can't it be beautiful / why does there gotta be a
sacrifice?" -- Tori Amos
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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 22:08:47 +1000
From: "Lavenda" <earth@comcen.com.au>
To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: I'm back from outer space
John B typed:
>Absolutely. My father died suddenly (lay down for a nap and never woke up)
>, and people said how difficult it must have been for my mother and me. We
>said, no, it would have been difficult to see him go slowly, losing
>physical and/or mental capacity over time. I think sudden is the way to
>go.
Oh no, someone is going to start me on death again. In some ways, I think
sudden is harder to deal with because it is such a shock, if it's an illness
then you're given time to come to terms with it (at least part way). But I
guess it all depends on close to the person you are, how involved with it
you are from day to day, how much you are having to deal with it.
Some how I missed what you were responding to. While I have been reading the
digests sporadically, I'm sure i read that one.
Someone asked what books we've been reading. I'm just over half way through
the Silmarillion. I am enjoying it, though there are sections that are a
slog. I'd well and truely be finished it now if I didn't spend most of my
free time building pyramids and mauseleums (Pharoah, and the Cleopatra
expansion). Actually that's not completely true, weekends are DVD domain.
I've spent weeks catching up on the TNG (Star Trek) episodes I've missed
along the way, and watching the extra features from the box sets. I got
season 1 last (I didn't think I'd be able to play them any time soon when
they first came out, and then couldn't find one until a month or so ago),
and finished that off the weekend before last. I tell you what, going from
Season 1 to watching Nemisis, as bad as the first season was, probably isn't
going to do Nemisis any favours when the characters (notably Data) have
changed so much.
Coops typed:
>second punch thrown was a looping haymaker and the instant I did it I
>regretted it instantly as I sprained my wrist. I didn't even try to fill
If it wasn't for the fact that this was written a number of days early, I'd
think you were trying to come up with a cover story for said injury after
meeting up with Koba...
>Funny how we were talking about the Purple one recently. I read on the
For a second there I thought you were talking about me. Must have my brain
locked in the Prancing Cow...
As for the girls, well Shaelea is 9 months old now, and starting to stand on
her own, lots of teeth. Likes Blues Clues and hanging upside down. Tiarna
will be 4 in a few months (a party I must start planning soon!), getting an
attitude, loves her sister and both get more beautiful every day. I swear
one of these days I'll get pics online.
X
Lavs
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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:33:53 -0700
From: "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlife@hotmail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: tori in eugene or
ok, so i got to the venue around 3:15...they were supposed to open the gates
at 5pm but didn't open them til around 5:45. got to hear the whole
soundcheck which was: take to the sky, strange little girl and caught a lite
sneeze and some other stuff. it was really amazing. she was talking and
everyone could hear her. she was like "i should hit this harder, right?"
there were about 300 people in line at that point. she did the soundcheck
really late. then ben folds did a soundcheck quickly. it was around 95
degrees...pretty fucking hot and everyone was craving water. so when the
gates opened everyone ran for water. ben folds was damn cool...he's also
pretty cute and he talked a LOT and had a lot of audience participation. so,
tori came on. she was wearing jean capris and this long blue shirt thing
with white flowing sleeves. she came out and did the double wave (she should
patent that!!!) and kept mouthing "i miss you" or "i'll miss you" as some
people think it is. ok, so here is the setlist from what i remember...NOT in
order.
wampum prayer, a sorta fairytale, god, past the mission, take to the sky,
sweet dreams, caught a lite sneeze, horses, let it be (very last song,
AMAZING!), tear in your hand, putting the damage on (i thought i had died
and gone to tori cult heaven), precious things, wednesday, cornflake girl,
crazy, mr zebra, strange little girl. that's all i can remember at the
moment. she did a few songs and i was like "what is this?" but i'm sure you
can find them on the dent. duh.
it was really amazing during some of the songs to look over and see people
dancing. like, there was this group of four girls and all dancing together.
i was like "tori brings people together!" she did a lot of my favorite
stuff. yay. anyway, i'm really glad i got to go and just sit there and chill
out and sing along. i saw the "trim your bush" shirt. hit too close to home
and i couldn't buy it. anyway...i got a shirt which i guess i'm giving to my
friend because she couldn't go. a lot of people really got into wednesday
just because of its speed at the beginning...it grooved the eugenians.
anyway, it was good times. damn hot but the gorgeous guy next to me offered
to buy me water about seven times. yay.
anyway...i'm really hot because it's 100 degrees here.
love jessica
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 18:12:40 +0800
From: "John Bragazzi" <wasserman@operamail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: welcome to mutant high
A couple of interesting items in the news yesterday.
One was the death of Bob Hope, which doesn't fill me with any strong emotion, though I do recall with plesure that my father was offered a job in the 1940s as one of Hope's writers, and he turned it down. I was always glad about that.
Here's another thing which I thought was interesting:
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-gside29.html
A gay high school is an interesting idea. I'm leery of the "it's for their own protection" argument, though I know that the threat is very real. There was a student in my junior high shool who was beaten because a couple of guys decided he was gay (I don't know if he was, but he was rather delicate and soft-spoken and had very long hair, which was apparently enough). He wasn't beaten that badly, four of us ganged up on the thugs and changed their minds, including chasing one of them several blocks until we caught him. About the only really violent act I was a part of in school.
But still, whatever ostensible reason is given, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. There were all-male and all-female high schools when I was growing up, and I didn't think it was good for people to get such a skewed idea of reality. The world isn't going to be all-male or all-female, why prepare people for that?
I remember racial segregation, too, though that was in a different part of the country, which was not only schools but restaurants, hotels and drinking fountains (and much more).
Also, high school is a time when people are often not sure *what* their sexuality is. I don't think it's a good idea to have people declare a definite answer at that point. For example, what if a boy at the gay high school starts dating a girl, will he be immediately transferred to a different school? Things can be very fluid and changeable at that age, and I think that's great. Experimentation without fear of expulsion, that's my motto.
I'll throw the floor open on another question, though. New York City's other special high school require an entrance exam (or, in the case of the arts schools, a portfolio or an audition). What would the exam for the gay high school consist of?
Discuss.
As B/4,
John
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