RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #1848

RDT Right Now #1848

From: Scotch <scotch@torithoughts.org>
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 16:45:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: RDT Right Now #1848
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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to: <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the subject and body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 03 : Issue #1848 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o Re: Running to Stand Still [ Jacob Hirsch <jrh4v@yahoo.com> ] time is on my side [ John Bragazzi <utown@worldnet.att.n ] wow [ "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlif ] Having Dished It Out . . . [ Violet <fluffy@annihilist.com> ] ticking away the moments that make u [ Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net. ] Who are you...who who, who who, who [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ] Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 21:30:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Jacob Hirsch <jrh4v@yahoo.com> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Re: Running to Stand Still I saw this on the U2 list i'm on. I'm sure some of you out there are as big fans of Bono. This is the dream connection i've been wanting for about 10 years since I was really introduced to both artists. When U2 covers Tori then i'll be really happy. I can't think of a tori song that would especially work well with U2. I guess they both covered Happiness is a Warm Gun so that kinda counts. Bono is all about the same kind of religious questioning that Tori likes to get in her songs. Maybe one of the religious-themed songs. I'm surprised she didn't try One. Maybe she has too much respect for it to try to cover it... "She's raging... she's raging!" (that's perfect Tori!) >>Message: 1 Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 06:14:18 EDT From: remgreen1@aol.com Subject: Tori Amos... covering "Running To Stand Still"... AGAIN! (Toronto / 07-13-203) Aftercover the Joshua Tree classic on 8-7-2003 at Red Rocks (Dencver) none the less, She played the tune again on 8-13-2003 in Toronto. The link below is for a Mp3 of the 8-07-2003 Denver cover of Running To Stand Still. A great passiionate performance. <A HREF="http://home.comcast.net/~electricity79/toriamosrtssredrocks.mp3";>home.comcast.net/~electricity79/toriamosrtssredrocks.mp3</A> Enjoy! Jeffrey __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 05:31:11 -0400 From: John Bragazzi <utown@worldnet.att.net> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: time is on my side Jessica said: > now, can we fucking MOVE ON?!?!? It was weird, I will admit, to lie on my floor in the dark, sweating, listening to my transistor radio tell me that the blackout was the #1 news story all over the world, and all sorts of international media were going "wall-to-wall" with it, meaning that it was the only story they were covering. A friend sent me an AP story about how people from all over the world think it's hilarious that Americans get so worked up when they lose power for a day or two, since this happens to them all the time (as you point out). And cell phones did work, but not as reliably as regular phones. And some of the people stuck in the subways used them as flashlights. Time magazine published a list of 10 handy tips for surviving blackouts, and it's very similar to the one I posted here. See, I'm ahead of my TIME! :-) As B/4, John -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 09:40:19 -0700 From: "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlife@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: wow "Dressed in a flowing powder-blue tunic, faded blue jeans and burgundy Manolo Blahniks....." *jaw drops* okay, tori needs to become my new best friend RIGHT NOW. those shoes cost $485. I saw sex and the city from sunday night. holy shit. she's gotta have great friends or making bank. -jessica Don't become so tolerant that you tolerate intolerance. --Bill Maher _________________________________________________________________ <b>Help protect your PC:</b> Get a free online virus scan at McAfee.com. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 04:22:34 -0700 From: Violet <fluffy@annihilist.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Having Dished It Out . . . Thought you guys might find this interesting. -- Violet xoxox ----------------- http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A46937-2003Aug11?language=printer Having Dished It Out . . . By E. J. Dionne Jr. Tuesday, August 12, 2003; Page A13 Isn't the hatred shown our president just awful, especially when we face such serious challenges to our national security? One major politician called the administration's policies an "abject national embarrassment." A former national security official said the president "has squandered American credibility and undermined our preeminence around the world." Another highly respected foreign policy expert said the administration "has not been able to distinguish between professorial concepts and foreign policy." A key House leader insisted that "the president does not have the divine right of a king." He accused the administration of providing the public with "the spin, the whole spin, and nothing but the spin." An important senator called the president "a jerk," and a House member said: "He still looks like a small man in a big office and an illegitimate president." Terrible, terrible stuff. These politicians clearly don't know what the thoughtful conservative writer David Brooks knows: that politics should not take on a "lurid and emotional tone," and that it's self-defeating to indulge "the hypercharged tendency to believe the absolute worst about one's political opponents." Brooks, writing in the Weekly Standard in June, was trashing Democrats for their intense dislike of President Bush. But every one of the comments I cited above was an attack by a Republican on Bill Clinton when he was president. The first quotation about the administration being a "national embarrassment" came from Dick Cheney -- he was referring to Clinton's policy toward Haiti. You presume our vice president will now defend the right of all Democrats to dissent from the current administration's foreign policy. It was James A. Baker III, the first President Bush's secretary of state, who said Clinton had squandered American credibility. The guy who trashed professors was former professor Henry Kissinger. The comments about the king of spin came from the inimitable Tom DeLay, now the House Republican majority leader. It was Sen. Orrin Hatch who called Clinton a "jerk," and Republican Bob Dornan, then a congressman, who described Clinton as both "small" and "illegitimate." Rep. Dan Burton (R-Ind.) actually called Clinton a "scumbag" -- surely, in Brooks's terms, a "lurid and emotional" way to refer to the commander in chief. It is thus hilarious that Republicans have been so self-righteous against Democrats who have had the nerve to behave as an opposition and challenge President Bush's credibility. Republicans are telling Democrats: "Don't you dare do what we did." It's equally amusing, but also depressing, that hypocrisy isn't being called by its real name. This moment's fashionable subject, the California recall, was born out the very sort of political hatred that Republicans condemn when it's directed at Bush. But it certainly doesn't bother Arnold Schwarzenegger that his chance to start a political career has come courtesy of the partisan animosity against California Gov. Gray Davis that forced the recall election. Nor does the hatred of Davis bother Bush, who has spoken kindly of the Terminator. That's because Bush understands that one force that pushed him into the White House was the partisan loathing created by Cheney, Baker, DeLay and the rest during the Clinton years. The president can't begrudge Arnold his opportunity. But Bush also hopes his apologists will intimidate Democrats from attacking him. That's why the Bush camp keeps pretending that raising questions about the president's stewardship is counterproductive and even unpatriotic. "I am dismayed that so many feel free to engage in partisan attacks on the commander in chief in the midst of war," Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.) wrote in The Post [op-ed, Aug. 3]. This view did not stop the same John Ensign from challenging Clinton in February 1998 over the prospect of airstrikes against Iraq. Clinton, Ensign said then, "has not made the case to Congress to get our support and we are not in a crisis situation." Don't Ensign's comments sound awfully close to what Howard Dean has said about the war against Iraq in 2003? In fairness, when Clinton's airstrikes against Iraq eventually came in the midst of the impeachment fight in December 1998, Ensign called them "a necessary action," not something every Republican said at the time. But Ensign could not resist adding: "You certainly have to question the timing." Democrats who asked why the buildup to the war in Iraq was so widely advertised before the 2002 elections were, one presumes, equally justified in questioning "the timing." It is not at all astonishing that partisans would claim that their own political attacks are morally justified while the opposition's assaults are wretched exercises in partisanship. What is astonishing is that anyone would take such claims seriously. (c) 2003 The Washington Post Company -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 22:27:00 +1000 From: Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net.au> To: Really Deep Thrusts Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: ticking away the moments that make up a dull day My bathroom project is well under way but I won't bore you with the details. Maybe I'll get excited when I can actually have a shower at home again and no more washing my hair in the kitchen sink. I've done it in worse conditions, like cold mountain rivers before. It's almost like camping at home with the advantage of having your own bed. John, let me guess, you were in the subway when the power went out? If you want real excitement, you should try a Millennium train here, or as they're now known, the Mi'lemon train. To digest 1847 and Jae: >Hi. I'm in California. *wave* I, uh... have no idea what to say. *waves back* Well it's a start. And then.... So what's your sTori? Lavs, don't screw your family. You're too nice to end up on Jerry Springer. > > encore and I found myself clearly during Wild Child, head banging > away > and doing the devil's horns thing. > >Man, if someone has this shot, I want it. If you really want it, I can provide. It's a bit disappointing really, as my arm is at the horizontal and still going up when they cut away, so unfortunately it's a half horn. Now why do you want to see my horns anyway? Isn't that what got you pregnant the first time you saw them? And I use the plural because it's like what Rodney Rude says, "you can't get that silly playing with only one". Linda... my teeth are available. Don't go getting a tan either, I like pale. I'm sure your boyfriend will love having his Tori cherry taken. Brian -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 23:00:06 -0400 From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Who are you...who who, who who, who are you, who who who who..... (The Who) Once upon a midnight dreary...a raven by the name of jes'ca outed herself thusly: >> > From: Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net.au> > BTW, is there anyone new dying to introduce themselves around here? Don't > be shy, we don't bite, just nibble at the edges a little. *peeks out from corner* Hi. I'm in California. *wave* I, uh... have no idea what to say. -jae<< Hi jae! I'm from California too! Only I moved to Bucks County, PA 20 years ago. But I'm a fourth generation San Franciscan (my grandfather was orphaned in the 1906 Earthquake and Fire). So fellow Arty Turners, What say we have a reintroduction party to remind each other of who we are outside our net persona? I'll start. I'm Beth Coulter (Bethey of Fairy Blessings fame). I'll be 42 in another month and have been a Toriphile (Ears with Feet) since '92. I have every album, most of the singles, and a ridiculous amount of bootlegs given by generous friends. I have been to *let me count* 8 concerts since 1994 (including the benefit for RAINN in 1997), and was privileged to be front row center at her Storyteller's performance. I'm super-imposed over her face in the very beginning (long hair, goofy grin), and can be seen now and then (especially when I'm dancing like a true geek). I'm also fortunate enough to have been invited backstage in 1998 to meet her (this and other ToriStories found at www.bethcoulter.com). I joined RDT(RN) in June 1997 and have been here ever since (like a bad fungus that refuses to leave your toenail). I am pleased to have coined the term "Arty Turners" (RD TRNer's), but that's been my greatest contribution to the list. ;) I was Auntie Bethey for a while in my first year or so here, but then I stopped giving so much advice and concentrated on getting my own act together. Some of my ancient posts are embarrassing. I'll leave it at that. I was very vocal about having MPD (multiple personality disorder) and got involved in some flame wars because of that. Hell, I once had a very public go to with Brian Cooper (remember pervert? ;) ). I guess I should let everyone know that I am close to full integration, really quite basically a full person. That's what a decade of good therapy will do for you. I think my therapist will be kicking me out for being too healthy in another year. No drugs, just talk therapy. It works. I have a 22 year old daughter, a 3 1/2 y. o. granddaughter, and a sick ex-husband who I used to take care of. He's been terminally terminal for 3 years with Hepatitis C and various cancers, but is too ornery to die. I've spent the last year distancing myself from him as I've gotten more and more involved in my own life (of which I never had before) and encouraging his old friends to fill the void. I'm much happier now. OH, I suppose this is a good place to point out that I have been abstinent for the past 10 years. As a sexual abuse victim, I related all relationships on a sexual basis. I made the conscience choice to abstain from all sex until I felt I was whole and well enough to deal with it in a realistic manner. I consider myself a virgin again and am looking forward to the day I am able to give the most precious gift I have to a person that I love deeply (what Professor???? *innocence*). Oh, yes, I started back to college in the winter of 1999. I had an Associates of Communications degree from California, but the school(s) I went to weren't nationally accredited, so I only had 14 credits to transfer to Pennsylvania. I've basically started from the beginning. I'm now a Junior with a 3.8 GPA, Honor student, Deans List, blah, blah, blah. It's not so much that I'm super smart (yeah, I have a good brain, but no genius), I just do nothing but study. I go to an all women's college in Allentown (and we're living here in Allentown and they're closing the factory's down--b. joel), Cedar Crest College. I'm still in Communications (makes me a Commie you know *ha ha*). This will be the first semester that I've really been involved in campus activities. I'll be student ambassador, campus radio DJ, co-founder of the Peace Coalition; along with plays and just getting to know my fellow students. The wonderful growth I've undergone this summer makes me want to be involved with life in full and I'm really excited by what may come my way. Besides being a student, I'm a writer with a literary agent (and no publisher!) (stories on bethcoulter.com), a professional poet (both paid and published), an artist, a psychic, a philosopher, a volunteer for RAINN and other like organizations, and mostly, a woman who has discovered her inner goddess. I've just recently rediscovered emotions, and am in the midst of a torrid, non-requited (yet) love for a Professor I had last Spring and Summer. We are "friends". I get to see him on Sunday at the Convocation. I have the greatest outfit (khaki mini-skirt and ultra-cool asymmetrical blouse with long, cut sleeves that tie at the wrist, princess-like) that will at least make him notice me. ;) It's really neat to be almost 42, be in the best shape of my life, and have all the clothes I wanted to wear in the 1970's make a comeback just when I have the body to pull it off. Girls, think positive. 40 is GOOD. ;) That's enough. Your turn. That way the newbie's feel comfortable enough to share. Fairy Blessings, Bethey I'm OK when Everything's not OK cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say And I have always been a Fairy. www.bethcoulter.com o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o $$$ Lordy Lordy Tori's Forty digest $$$ To POST messages to this list: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Can't figure out how to SUB, UNSUB, or CHANGE ADDRESSES? Send a message to <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "help" as the subject. Digest PROBLEMS or QUESTIONS? Contact: <admin@torithoughts.org> Want your BIRTHDAY announced on RDTRN in 2003? Visit the registration form located at http://www.torithoughts.org/RDTRN/birthday.html RDTRN SITE AND ARCHIVES: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn RDTRN'S SUBLIMINAL THOUGHTS (you can't see this): http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/subliminal/ For information on joining the TORITOUR list: Send a blank message to <tour@torithoughts.org> and you'll receive an instruction file. Any self-respecting Toriphile is on The Registry. 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