RDT Right Now #1849

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Really Deep Thoughts Right Now			Volume 03 : Issue #1849

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  replies                               [ Simon Booth <simonbooth@mac.com> ]
  lordy, lordy, look who's 40.. *faint  [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ]



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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 02:56:51 -0500
From: Simon Booth <simonbooth@mac.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: replies

Did you know that there's an old Scorpions song about New York?

from Violet:

 >Subject: you can help in pending animal cruelty case

Sickening case.  More sickening: that the current penalties fall far 
short of being "appropriate punishment".

bethey wrote:

 >There must be some truth to a glow when a woman is in love, but I 
lucked out
 >and got it captured on digital.

I thought you lived far enough from Harrisburg to have any "glow" ;)

Seriously, neat pics :)

and that 4 cats jokes was funny!

lavs- great news there about Shaelea :)

k h wrote:

 >Subject: also known as slacker

Isn't that a British police show? ;)


happy birthday stinaship, paige w., Julie, and katzwhiskers :)

megan- feeling better?

bethey wrote:

 >Welcome back Simon.  I hope your Financial Aid gets straightened out.  
Check
 >out the loans.  Student loans are ridiculously easy to get, even with 
little
 >or no income.

Not sure if I'd qualify for loans in light of my past credit problems, 
but I'm currently trying to appeal the ban.  The problem is that after 
a month I still can't get a straight answer about what the *real* 
reason is because not once has financial need been mentioned, only two 
conflicting explanations based on some weird interpretation of the 
"policy" that covers past college work.  I can understand if I was 
aimlessly taking classes over the years but my *past* work was 
completed back in '97, so what I'm doing *now* is a completely new 
track.

My parents gave me the money to cover this semester but the whole point 
of financial aid for me is that I wasn't supposed to have to go to my 
family for 11th hour help.  I'm still have every intention of shoving 
the appeal down the collective throats of the people in the financial 
aid office- there's still Spring '04, and it will be interesting to see 
what happens if it comes out that I had qualified for aid this fall 
after all but got denied due to a massive fuckup on their part.

For the record, I'm not on some tear thinking that somehow the world 
"owes" me anything.  I'm looking at this beyond just me: it's just 
plain wrong to give someone aid then come off later on as reneging on 
that over some assholeish way of interpreting "policy".  It's happened 
to me, I'm sure it's happened to other people, and perhaps calling them 
on a screwup like this might help other people later on as well.   It's 
simple: if someone doesn't qualify for financial aid, fine.  Then let 
that person know ahead of time, not after they've gotten aid for one 
semester and enrolled for the following semester based on *having 
already been given the green light to get aid later on*!


 >And I have always been a Fairy.

wearing boots? ;)

Only a little Tori when you're working at the radio station?  You have 
an excellent opportunity, as well as a duty.  The listeners shall 
forever know the supernova brilliance that is The One.  And let no one 
stop you.  The studio door has locks on it, right? ;)

So what sort of reception did you get from the younger students at the 
orientation?

from jessica:

 >-jessica, feeling dead sexy with less hair.

Could have had it done for free in Pripyat in the late 80s, and even 
today inside the exclusion zone.


happy birthday Rosewynd and Vicki :)


brian wrote:

 >Subject: The joy of hex

New book about witchcraft.

There's also the flight manual for His Divine Shadow's planet-killer 
starship:

The Joy of Lexx.

 >Tori chat - The one subject that amused me was the mother that was 
worried
 >about taking her 5 year old to the show because of the risk of 
profanity.
 >The likelihood of a kid picking up on one or two words out of a two 
hour
 >show is minuscule.

Most kids learn profanity while riding in cars with their blue-streak 
screaming parents.

 >If anything, any it'll be a sensory overload for the kid
 >and it will all be a blur to them.

Witnessing the embodiment of perfection taken to a level beyond the 
infinite is hardly something I'd call "overload" or "a blur".

re: masturbation and longer life:

 >The research stated 3 times a week. On that scale, I know some guys 
that
 >are going to live to be 800.

And in your case, you've achieved immortality.

 >I just want to make it perfectly clear that I am not Bethey's geology
 >teacher (#1840), though people have been known to suggest I've got 
rocks in
 >my head.

Or just getting your rocks off!

 >Good to see Estraven appreciates a bit of hex. Something I've sadly 
lost
 >the ability to program in, but then I haven't had to do it in so long.

I've give you one better: ever had to *write* hex or binary code by 
hand?  Something I had to do in a computer science class I was in 
during my senior year of high school ('87-'88 school year).  Actual 
programming was in PASCAL but yeah, we were also doing a lot of pen and 
paper work writing out code, including translating code into plain 
English.  That year I learned a new meaning for "pain in the ass".

 >On to John B's report of a proposed gay high school - while in 
principle
 >it's not a bad idea, in practicality it's a very bad one. It would only
 >serve to segregate people of different sexual persuasions from the
 >mainstream, which would only contribute to misunderstanding. It would 
also
 >be like putting a sign on a student's head proclaiming their 
preference if
 >they went there and make them an easy target for everything from
 >discrimination to violence.

Which is why IMHO I've always felt that something has to be done about 
the bullying and general nastiness some students are in the current 
climate allowing with impunity to inflict on other students.

re: tile work in the bathroom.

Finished with it yet?  Speaking of tile installers and repairers, 
there's a group of tile fitters in Florida who should be in prison.  
Hoping hell is as hot as the result of their incompetence.

re: financial aid.  yes, I've been totally honest with them on all 
application paperwork, and so far it seems that's not what's in 
dispute.  So far I've gotten two different letters from the college 
stating I'm "banned" but with two different explanations they've 
managed to pull out of their asses.

So, I'm being honest, while they're full of shit. So full of shit that 
if they took laxatives, they'd simply disappear from exisistence.

 >On sci-fi...
 >
 >Even more interesting is the technology. In the original Star Trek, 
you saw
 >lots of flashing lights on computers and reel-to-reel tape drives in 
the
 >background. On something like Enterprise, you see flat panel displays. 
It's
 >nothing more than the latest in current technology you're seeing.

I'm not sure if it ever plagued the sci fi films and TV shows from 
other countries, but with some exceptions most US sci-fi seems to just 
visually scream what era it was made in, especially the films and TV 
shows from the 70s and early 80s.  Sometimes it's just the every hair 
and clothing styles showing through despite attempts to make things 
look futuristic or high-tech, but in many cases the costume and set 
designers managed to project that weird slick/flashy look of the 70s 
into the future, complete with everything seeming to be electronic gear 
decked out with chrome and flashing lights.

One real exception IMHO is "2001".  Made in 1968, but it doesn't look 
like a 60's film except for the technical aspects of the film itself as 
opposed to set designs.

On the subject of the "look and feel" of sci fi shows and movies, am I 
the only one who's noticed how some productions from just a few years 
ago actually look much older?  Lately I've run across some of Sci Fi 
channel's made-for-TV movies that are obviously recently made but 
*look* like some forgotten B-grade 80s flick- the only clue to the 
films having been made only in the past few years are referrences in 
the story to things in our present or recent past.  But everything 
else- effects, set style/designs, and even the filming technique 
itself- I mean *everything* on screen looks 15 years older than it's 
supposed to.

In a couple of movies, made in '99 or 2000, all the computer equipment 
in a "NASA control room" all look like old Apples or PCs circa 1985-86, 
computers with that 80s video game look to anything in color on the 
screens!  No joke- no GUIs in this depiction of a current NASA center!

By the way- I've always wondered if Ridley Scott (first "Alien" film 
and Blade Runner) and the producers of the Mad Max movies have gotten 
royalties over the years from all the sci-fi filmmakers who have ripped 
off the look of their respective works.   I mean look at all the B 
flicks from the past 20 years or so that have the same industrial 
spaceflight, gritty high-tech, or post-apocalypse look about them! ;)

anyway:

 > At least
 >the holodecks are something that can be considered futuristic. I can't 
even
 >watch the original now without laughing.

Nice thing about Enterprise is that it takes place long before 
holodecks, so there aren't going to be the slew of episodes where the 
writers get lazy and cop out with yet another "holodeck breakdown from 
hell" story as we saw with TNG, DS9, or Voyager.

re: Heart concert DVD:

 >So when I got home
 >tonight, I parked myself in front of the TV with a couple of beers and
 >pizza to watch it.

Just a couple of beers?  Yeah right!

Jessica wrote:

 >Okay so the east coast suffered the nation's largest ever blackout. 
damn, so
 >that sucks for them like being stuck on subways and cell phones being 
out of
 >use and people having to climb up 10-15 flights of stairs. now, can we
 >fucking MOVE ON?!?!?

Uh, you know, I wish I could be as cavalier about stairs and 
malfunctioning elvators but for some reason, I can't.  I'll remember to 
just "move on" the next time I'm on an upper floor or a lower floor and 
where I need to be is on an upper floor and the elevator is out of 
action.

welcome jae!


ok jessica explained herself better.


lavs wrote:

 >Enterprise has the advantage of not projecting as far into thefuture 
(as well >as the advances of the last 30 odd years). Pity there isn'ta 
similar situation >with the storylines.

I've been thinking the same thing- don't get me wrong, overall, I've 
always liked Trek, but it's still aggravating the way the writers have 
re-written the fictional "history", even glossing over or "forgetting" 
things that albiet dated today, are still important parts of the 
overall Trek universe.  IE, the TOS Klingons and the Eugenics War.

On the other hand there's the holographic controls on Earth: Final 
Conflict.

Now those are cool!  Taking touch-screens many steps further!  I like 
the way the Taelon's technology truly looks alien and not just really 
advanced versions of things from Earth.

Linda- totally cool that you're seeing Tori on new year's day.

bethey- great poem!

may this critic burn in hell:

 >Undoubtedly she put on a good show. She played for over two hours . a 
half >hour of that was her two encores, and the congregation still
 >wasn.t ready to let her go.

this was ok.

however:

 >
 >I was though.
 >I don.t know what it was. Maybe it was the frustration of trying
 >to decode what she was saying; maybe it was that I.ve been out of the 
Tori >scene for too long, or maybe it was that the guy beside me was SO 
into it that >it was distracting, but there was something about this 
performance that failed >to engage.

This person has witnessed the beyond the infinite supernova brilliance 
of The One, and claims they felt no connection?

Blasphemer.


later everyone!

Simon

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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 21:24:20 GMT
From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: lordy, lordy, look who's 40.. *faints*

howdy people. :) I need to quit being so.. fucking SILENT. :-\ summer school is great fun. no school on fridays, yay. :)

is anybody else as gobsmacked as I am that Tori is.. FORTY? she doesn't look a day older than 30.. maybe 35 on a bad day.

I've got the stinkin' fucked-up-Juno-cuz-the-computer-had-some-sort-of-serious-system-error blues.. I'm writing this from the webmail Juno. *grumble* and I fear that I'm going to have to find a new email server. :( and rebuild my address book all.. fucking.. over.. again. fuck.. and on top of that, I get to lose all the emails I had saved (received and sent both) and... gahh! *pulls hair*

oh, speaking of my hair.. :D it gets recolored again.. a darker shade of auburn-red on the 30th.. and my niece turns 1 on the 31st. :D and I get to see the incomparable Tori Amos on September 1 and bring my friend along and shove him at the front of the meet-and-greet queue to ensure that he gets to meet her. I'll want to give something to her (birthday gifts for her and Tash) and say "hi, remember me? I'm the one who said you look like my mom!" but I want my friend to meet her more than anything else. he's not met her yet and he's been a fan since 1999. so.. fucking.. NOT fair. can you tell I like my friend a lot? :D

anybody else heard the radio edit of Strange? I've heard it.. two words: country? *puke* it's actually decent, but the extra instrumentation just REEKS of country.. and I'm not a big country fan as it is. the only thing I really like is the intro.. it gives you a chance to get into the song before she starts singing. :)

I'm also having issues with my sexuality. YAY! :P I fucking hate every bit of it too because it's just really, to me, just nonstop frustration.. and I don't handle frustration well. I still dig men so it's not like I'm suspecting myself of doing a complete 180 with it.. but... well.. it's hard to explain AND it's a long story. *rams head against wall repeatedly*

okay. I've caught everybody up on what I've been up to in life.. now.. ON WITH THE REPTILIAN REPTILES! .... er.. REPLIES.

Jessica said: "*jaw drops* okay, tori needs to become my new best friend RIGHT NOW. those shoes cost $485. I saw sex and the city from sunday night. holy shit. she's gotta have great friends or making bank."
     methinks it's a combo of both. who ELSE wouldn't enjoy margaritas on the dock with her? :D me, I'd love to sit and talk with her over coffee and various other foodstuffs for a good few hours. definitely. :)

Beth said: "So fellow Arty Turners,  What say we have a reintroduction party to remind each other of who we are outside our net persona?  I'll start."
     and start you did. *grin* great job. :) now I guess I'll go next, huh? (I really need to reply more. I've also lost, along with my other damn emails, the last five digests prior to this one.. *sobs loudly*)

okay. I'm Cyndi S. Crawford (I was about 4 or 5 when the supermodel got famous. pure coincidence.), I'll be 22 in October, and I've been a Toriphile since February of 2002. (the 15th was the day of reckoning for me so to speak since that was the day I first saw the Hey Jupiter video.) I have all of Tori's albums, but no singles (I don't really collect singles these days.. I did it when I was a Michael Jackson fanatic but all they're doing now is.. collecting dust.) I have a good few bootlegs and videotapes of Tori stuff supplied to me by the incomparable Vicki (*hugs Vicki* you know who you are. :) ), and I had the wonderful opportunity to meet Tori--tho I wasn't close enough for an autograph, picture, or hug--on her fifth wedding anniversary in Birmingham, Alabama. it's kinda weird to think back on that and, in my case, kind of hit yourself over the head (out of "why did I say THAT!?" and also out of happiness at the same time. most confusing.) for telling her she reminds me of my mother when she laughs and smiles.. and that it's a very good thing.

I joined RDTRN.. I think.. what, in March? I can't remember.. but it was VERY soon after getting sucked into Tori world.. and I felt an incredible need to interact with other Toriphiles instead of subjecting my best friend and then-boyfriend (whom I'm still on very good terms with) with endless rants and babbles and thoughts about Tori.

I think I need therapy, but my friend who got a major in psychology assures me that I'm fine, though I have my doubts. these days, more so than a few years ago.... hmm.. (what do YOU think, Bethey? me need therapy, yes or no?)

I'm the proud aunt of a niece (who I mentioned at the beginning of this post.. :) ).. and to tell you the truth, I've never known I could love somebody as much as I love her.. and she's only my bloody niece. o_O

I'm a student at the Atlanta Art Institute (I graduate in two quarters after this one, YAY!).. studying video production.. and I plan to go from there to Georgia State to get a degree in film making. *nods*

(Bethey.. literary agent?? sweet, tell me more!) I'm also a writer (like Bethey said she was), and have been since 1995 (when I was about to enter 9th grade). I also love editing (hence my degree in video production and hopefully in film making).. and I plan to direct and edit music videos someday. (working with Tori is one of my big goals.)

my favorite color is blue.. obsessively so.. aside from Tori, my favorite musicians are Michael Jackson, Green Day, Kid Rock, Bif Naked, Nine Inch Nails, Madonna, Marilyn Manson, and the Beatles, though as of lately (as in.. the last six months) I've REALLY been getting into punk and industrial music...... there's a wild freak-child in me just ACHING to burst out of me.. clothes do not make the woman, but as soon as I drop 50 pounds (and yes, damn it, I'm overweight. I'm 200 pounds and 5 feet, 7 inches. my ideal weight is supposed to be 140-150.) and feel good 'n healthy, I'm gonna go haunt Hot Topic for all it's worth.

the South Beach Diet is the BEST fucking diet I've ever been on. after the sugar craving withdrawals subsided, anyway..... (I'm a sugar addict and I don't mean that in a joking manner.)

um.... I have a blog. www.icenine.org/cyndi and I use it from time to time to rant, rave, bitch, whine, and generally be immature. but I also use it to share deep thoughts that come to me RIGHT THEN before I lose it. someone recently ran into my page and left some very rude comments.. and was cowardly enough to not leave a name or email.. or webpage. fucking sissy. anyway.

I'm the youngest of three.. uh.. I have two dogs and a cat.. erm.. it's fucking hot in here. I think I'm done. :) I do best when people ask me a question first, truthfully..

all right.. that covers everything. I fucking hate computer problems.. but.. I sho' 'nuff do love it here! *big stupid grin* so on that note,

au revoir mi amigos! :) (see? I know how to speak Russian! ;) *joke* )

Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford
"I know we're dying / and there's no sign of a parachute / we scream in cathedrals / why can't it be beautiful / why does there gotta be a sacrifice?" -- Tori Amos


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