RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #1865

RDT Right Now #1865

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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to: <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the subject and body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 03 : Issue #1865 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o mtv.com mixfest review [ fingerpuppets <woj@smoe.org> ] boston globe mixfest review [ fingerpuppets <woj@smoe.org> ] "it's like attacking a parking meter [ Mark Alexander <alexander750@earthl ] ( parantheses ) [ "Bethany Rose" <hejira@u-town.com> ] Who's that girl? [ Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net. ] Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:40:14 -0400 From: fingerpuppets <woj@smoe.org> To: torinews@smoe.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>, rdtrn@torithoughts.org, toriphery@groups.msn.com Subject: mtv.com mixfest review tori gets a couple comments.... <url: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1479585/20031006/mraz_jason.jhtml > Mraz, Branch Drive Crowd Wild; Duran Duran Drives 'Em Away 10.06.2003 9:26 PM EDT BOSTON . Fans filled the FleetCenter Friday night to see Vertical Horizon, Jason Mraz, Michelle Branch, Dido, Tori Amos, Train and the Barenaked Ladies, but people actually fled the venue to avoid seeing Duran Duran. With only six hours for eight artists to perform at WBMX-FM's 10th annual MixFest, the evening was strictly a hits-and-only-the-hits affair, with some artists playing fewer than five songs. Michelle Branch took the stage early in support of her latest album, Hotel Paper, clad simply in jeans, a sleeveless white T-shirt and Chuck Taylors. Charging through a brisk set of hits, the 20-year-old girl-wonder seemed most at home with an acoustic guitar in hand, belting out pitch-perfect versions of "Everywhere" and "Goodbye to You." But when liberated from her instrument for "Love Me Like That," "Breathe" and current hit "Are You Happy Now?," Branch's stage presence . which consisted primarily of aimlessly wandering the stage . felt uncomfortably green, especially when compared to the frenzied ants-in-her-pants gyrations of Tori Amos or the pristine control of Dido. At her first live show in several months, Dido showed that less is more in a stripped-down, five-song set accompanied solely by a lone acoustic guitarist. The sugar-voiced chanteuse . wearing jeans, simple gold jewelry and her dark blonde hair pulled back in a spray . leaned against a small wooden stool and beamed at the hushed audience as she chimed out immaculate renditions of the hits "White Flag" and "Thank You" as well as the title track from her new Life for Rent. Jason Mraz looked less like the Hugh Grant-ish photo from the back of his Waiting for My Rocket to Come and more like Jimmy Buffet as he took the stage wearing a slouch hat pulled down over his eyes and a flowered lei that had been tossed onstage by a fan. For 20 minutes he and his band churned out a soulful set of tunes including "The Remedy" as well as a quirky reggaed-up version of Christina Aguilera's "Beautiful," during which Mraz's swooping tenor hit high notes unheard on his record. Mraz wasn't the only one to embrace cover songs. Train blasted out a searing rendition of Led Zeppelin's "Ramble On," and Tori Amos howled through haunting versions of the Animals' "House of the Rising Sun," Bruce Springsteen's "I'm on Fire" and Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit." Amos further pushed the creepy envelope when her playing became so frenzied that she could be seen on the FleetCenter's giant video screen drooling onto her grand piano. Finally it was time for the reunited original lineup of Duran Duran . a moment that most of the night's artists seemed to be looking forward to. The Barenaked Ladies did an impromptu rap about their love of Duran Duran, Dido admitted she had seen them at least 10 times, and even Michelle Branch, whose birth date falls a few years after the double-D's first flush of fame, said she was "psyched." It quickly became apparent, however, that the artists were far more excited than the audience. Well coiffed and in immaculate black suits, Duran Duran looked sharp as ever, but their age was definitely showing, despite attempts to hide it with makeup and hair dye. So it felt a bit wrong when singer Simon LeBon opened their set by belting out the lyrics to the band's 1984 hit "Wild Boys" . lines like "Wild Boys never lose it/ Wild Boys always shine!" There for the novelty and not much more, a good third of the crowd streamed out of the venue during the first half of the band's set, so when the Durans finally slipped into gear on "Ordinary World," which they dedicated to the recently deceased Robert Palmer, only hardcore fans were left to watch Duran Duran nail "Notorious," "Careless Memories" and "Rio" as well as their own cover, a hard rocking rendition of Grandmaster Flash's "White Lines." "Wild boys fallen far from glory ..." -Erin Amar -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:53:19 -0400 From: fingerpuppets <woj@smoe.org> To: torinews@smoe.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>, rdtrn@torithoughts.org, toriphery@groups.msn.com Subject: boston globe mixfest review there's a photo <url: http://www.boston.com/ae/galleries/mixfest2003/artists13.htm > and a review of the entire show, with one paragraph about tori, at <url: http://www.boston.com/ae/music/articles/2003/10/06/high_energy_acts_fuel_mixfest _party/ > High-energy acts fuel MixFest party By Sarah Tomlinson, Globe Correspondent, 10/6/2003 MixFest X With Barenaked Ladies, Train, Duran Duran, Tori Amos, Dido, Michelle Branch, Jason Mraz, Vertical Horizon At: the FleetCenter, Friday night It was as if the MTV generation's defining anthem, "Video Killed the Radio Star," was turned on its head at MixFest X at the FleetCenter on Friday night. The 10th annual music festival, hosted by radio station Mix 98.5, attracted listeners who went wild for acts with recent radio hits, such as Barenaked Ladies and Train. But most didn't even stick around for headliners Duran Duran, who once epitomized video-age style but haven't had a radio hit in more than the "Decade of Mix Music" the concert celebrated. Sugar Ray's Mark McGrath, who MC'd the night's end, confessed he still wants to be John Taylor of Duran Duran, but he may be the only one, as a preteen attendee a few rows back confessed to friends, "I don't even know who Duran Duran is." But diehard fans were rewarded by a high energy set of hits bursting with metallic jungle rhythms and Simon LeBon's seductively supple vocals on set opener "The Wild Boys," through "Hungry Like the Wolf," to the encore song, "Rio." And although the band didn't play an entirely tight set, they were debonair as ever in their slick suits. The crowd squeezed maximum fun from the rest of the night, even between bands, when they sang along to video of past MixFest concerts and sent a rippling wave of raised arms around the arena. Fans leapt from their seats to cheer goofy Canadian troubadours Barenaked Ladies, who delivered a playful set that included plenty of banter and several silly raps specially tailored for the Boston crowd, including one about singing at Fenway Park on Saturday. Their sunny pop rippled with loose guitar jams, thick upright bass, and soaring vocal harmonies on hits from "One Week" to "If I Had a Million Dollars." The flirtatious hip shaking and crooning of Train frontman Patrick Monahan was received with shrieks of adoration, as the band romped through a set that included "Meet Virgina" and "Drops of Jupiter (Tell Me)" and a fiery rendition of Led Zeppelin's "Whole Lotta Love." The dramatic theatrics and regal piano delivered by Tori Amos during her taught set didn't seem as tuned to the crowd's party mood, but she received a warm response as she played a striking set loaded with covers. She tackled a sultry version of Bruce Springsteen's "I'm on Fire," a deeply moody take on Neil Young's "Needle and the Damage Done," and a tensely dramatic rendition of Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit." Dido delivered a subtle, good-natured set that highlighted the airy heights of her voice, as she performed seated. Accompanied by only an acoustic guitar player, she ran through hits including "Thank You" and offered a peek at her new album with the lightly melodic "Life for Rent." While Michelle Branch looked as if she's still growing into her stage presence, her voice sounded full and warm during her short set. But Jason Mraz looked right at home as he serenaded the cheering ladies in the audience with love songs carried by a calypso beat. Local rock crooners Vertical Horizon opened the night of radio friendly rock. Copyright 2003 Globe Newspaper Company. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 00:43:59 -0500 From: Mark Alexander <alexander750@earthlink.net> To: "that redhead with the piano" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: "it's like attacking a parking meter with a yo-yo" Well, *I* thought it sounded better than "dumb as a senator." See below. We're all getting older now: myself, Bethey, Tori too...all past the 40 mark. And Tori's putting out a Greatest Hits album, with DVD. Just like Steely Dan, except while she covered "Do It Again," they haven't returned the favor by covering, say, "Professional Widow." These past couple of weeks could be summed up by one phrase: "Murphy's Rampage." Dysfunctional computers, angry cars, and newbies who were, well, dumb as senators (would you believe using a plastic bucket lid as a pizza pan? How about baking $300 in change? Oh, and it's 12 quarts of water to 50 pounds of dough mix, not 50 quarts of water to 12 pounds of dough--unless what you had in mind was cream of pepperoni soup) were the order of the day. It was like attacking a parking meter with a yo-yo, except both of those are made by the same company. I learned not to use Dex-Cool in a car that wasn't designed for it (a new radiator rusted out after less than a year), and also not to overtorque the battery connection to the starter (it broke). Incredibly, I was able to glue (!) the starter back together; it's held up so far...then the water pump ate itself, along with the front brakes. Total cost: $1050. Acura prices. Ouch. I learned several new cusswords when I broke the starter, and used them all. I learned to distrust any "official Microsoft security patch" that had an actual file attached, especially one which is exactly 109,248 bytes and has a name like jajazikstak.exe (or update19838.cab or qqzix.dll or banglesnoot.inf); my Mac takes a look at such viruses, laughs, and deletes them. As for the PC, I learned the only safe mail is webmail, because the PC version of Outlook insists on opening *everything*, firewall or no firewall. I also learned Apple can do dumb things, too. OS X 10.2.8 upgrade, anyone? I learned a bad backup is worse than no backup, and to RTFM. There are some things no Unix will do, and booting with every permission of every file--including the kernel--set to "trwxrwxrwx" (and owner set to "public", yet) is one of them. (Apparently, from what I could gather, trying to restore an OS X boot volume from Classic will do just that. I was finally compelled to start over from scratch. Mac users, take heed. I have now built an OS X boot CD, and tested it.) I remembered the cusswords from the broken starter incident, and used all of them. Again. I think Cappuccino (my younger cat, a black Manx with a taste for Coltrane, quantum supersymmetry, and buttered toast, of all things) has memorized those words by now. I learned that "reinstalling Windows" is a popular pastime of PC users. I'm on my fifth reinstall of Windows 95A after less than a month, thanks to SYSTEM.DAT eating itself again, presumably because I sneezed at the wrong time. This is the OS that most people use? Oh, and after I got through that, I managed to (drum roll, please)...CRASH A REMOTE CONTROL! Apparently, setting MaxMacroLength=0x068A, which works fine on a RadioShack 15-1994, doesn't do so well on the newer One for All URC-8910B, where it should be 0x09C7. (In case you do this, the equivalent of "control-command-power" is "Magic 981".) And I learned that there were reasons why, apart from the traffic jams composed of expensive German cars sporting giant cow horns, the bathroom taps offering hot or cold running toxic waste, Lone Star beer, billboards exhorting "It's a whole other country!", and the oil wells in the checkout lines, Texas creeped me out, and that exiling their Democrats to New Mexico (or was that Oklahoma?) was one of them. And I learned that Californians could make the same stupid mistake twice, if they "Terminated" their governor. What, Bonzo wasn't enough? At least the Razorbacks (and, incredibly, the Cubs) are winning. Estraven. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 02:26:32 -0400 From: "Bethany Rose" <hejira@u-town.com> To: "Dipfucks" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: ( parantheses ) so i saw Howie Day yesterday at the TLA here in Philadelphia. thought you might all be interested, since he opened for Tori (which, unfortunately, i never got to see...when i went to the Radio City show, it was the truly horrific Rhett Miller). anyway, got his first album awhile back, and became utterly obsessed with it, via repeat playings on my car stereo. The show was really good, just about as good as I thought it would be. the crowd was mostly earnest long-haired college girls accompanied by their sweet, sensitive poloshirt-clad boyfriends. the former screamed "Howie" at every interval and took a thousand and one bad digital pictures, and the latter stood tolerantly by. i went by myself. it's hard to believe that Tori played the TLA at one point (i think the LE and UtP tours, IIRC), since it's such a tiny little smoky place. I was able to get within ten feet of Howie Day (it was general admission), so I can only imagine what it must have been like to see her there. Intense. Funny, there was this chick opening for Howie, her name was Charlotte Martin. She seemed like a poor man's Tori Amos (except blonde). The postures, the singing, even her technique on the piano was similar. i only caught the last song of her set, a cover of "Black Hole Sun". it was rather amusing. anyhow, Howie puts on a good show. he's touring with a band now, and they're tight. he rocked pretty hard at some points, and i could really see going more on that direction in the future. i only hope he can break free of that whole passel of weepy, screaming girls at his feet thing. he's really much better than that, and i don't want to see him pigeonholed into that role. if you have a chance, go see him. it's definitely worth it. Megan: i have no suggestions for the name of your writing club, but i suggest you steer clear of puns of song lyrics. or: how about Bleeding Ink? that would interest the pseudo-goth death poetry set. I dunno. something with blood. yum. with that, she was gone. -bethany _______________________________________________________________ a journal : http://hejira.u-town.com you give me miles and miles of mountains and i ask for the sea (damien rice) -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 22:19:30 +1000 From: Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net.au> To: Really Deep Thrusts Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Who's that girl? I had a really bizarre experience last week. I dropped into the local chemist for some cough medicine as I could feel a resurgence of the flu happening. As I was paying up, the assistant asked which high school I went to. While it's not really an odd question in itself, I don't expect to hear it where I live as I moved all the way across Sydney. After I told her and found it was the same school, it was then a matter of finding out which year. Since she said her parents moved when she was in year 8, it was a case of narrowing things down through who we knew. As she was a year older than me, I thought she might have been a year or two ahead, but when we compared certain famous sisters, we had a match on the year as well. She asked my name, which I gave her in full but when it came to telling me her name, she only gave her first and when she did she mumbled it so I had to ask again. At that stage it was obvious no major bells of recognition were going off so after about a minute's worth of small talk, I left as she was rather busy. On my way back to my car, her last name suddenly dawned on me but not in the context of high school. I remembered her from primary school and when I got home I turned the place upside down looking for photos and yearbooks. The really dumb thing about this was when I was at my primary school's 50th anniversary eight days before, I was looking at the class photo and thinking, "I wonder what happened to that cute red-headed girl standing next to me?". I remembered her name then. Well at least I've got an idea now. But a number of things struck me as odd about all this, besides the distance element. It's been 23 years since she last would have seen me and she could still pick me out, even with a beard, fuller face and a dramatic height change. I was hard pressed to pick any features I recognised. She seemed very shy, was making me answer all the questions while hardly giving up anything herself, where from memory she was outgoing. If she'd told me her last name I would have known who she was immediately. She also said she'd noticed me regularly, which makes me wonder how long she has taken to tell me as I've been going to that store for 13 years and have never noticed her. I have been back to that chemist a couple times since for more medication but she wasn't there, but when I do find her I'll be the one with all the new facts to blow her away with. Tori news - I think I'm going to be even more cynical about the release of the "best of" album with bonus DVD after Scarlet's Walk. Only 5 tracks on the DVD? Why bother? Put it on a VCD, like what should have been done with the bonus DVD last time. I won't be rushing out for this one and this time I really mean it. I've been meaning to say for months, "Why doesn't Tori release a DVD of a whole show from her current tour?". Hell, even Heart could do it on their last tour. It's the perfect medium for it and it would be cherished by those who can't get to her shows. To think I used to think Atlantic knew how to milk the fans! Why bother? In digest #1863, Cyndi still hasn't had her prayers answered... >now.. given that, how MIGHT you say that you pray? I really want people >to think on this question. How you pray is determined by which religion you subscribe to and how dedicated you are. It can range from bowing down, touching your head to the ground, or kneeling and making with your hands pressed flat together pointing up, or to burning incense and spinning a prayer wheel as a few examples. Usually there is some form of meditation or chanting involved. But what are you really doing when going through the motions of what religions define as prayer? You're performing an action by rote which is usually only done for prayer, while intoning common phrases. What does that really do? It makes you focus on what you are trying to do while pushing any distractions to the background so you can focus on your deity of choice. While a religion might disagree, just thinking about your god can be considered as prayer so going through the motions is just a formality. This can be a valid form of prayer to an agnostic. If you're an atheist, then my previous answer of not praying is a perfectly valid answer. Why would you pray to something you don't believe in. The only person who can determine what is truly prayer is that person themself, according to their own belief. John wrote: >It is amazing how definite people can be about "how the US is viewed >around the world" when they spend all their time in the US and talking to >other Americans. You're not going to learn a lot that way. I read an article over the weekend that was a study of U.S. foreign diplomats (I think by the state department) that generally people from other countries like the U.S. itself and its people, they don't like its government. The government is perceived as arrogant, doesn't try to understand other cultures and will only interfere in other countries to further their own cause among other things. Now all we can hope for is that the policy makers read that report. 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