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RDT Right Now #1875

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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to: <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the subject and body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 03 : Issue #1875 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o scotland on sunday tori article [ ein kleines kinnemuzak <woj@smoe.or ] green swingline stapler [ "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlif ] bang bang [ John Bragazzi <utown@worldnet.att.n ] RE:..and why no DVDs??? [ "Dalsh 327" <dalsh327@hotmail.com> ] In Regards to The Wall... [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ] chartattack toal review [ ein kleines kinnemuzak <woj@smoe.or ] atlantic records toal press release [ fingerpuppets <woj@smoe.org> ] Paris is fine in the the spring [ Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net. ] Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:17:24 -0500 From: ein kleines kinnemuzak <woj@smoe.org> To: torinews@smoe.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>, rdtrn@torithoughts.org, toriphery@groups.msn.com Subject: scotland on sunday tori article <url: http://www.news.scotsman.com/features.cfm?id=1254522003 > I hope you're going to make me out to be funny Adrian Turpin It is almost too easy to make fun of Tori Amos. By music-industry standards, a druidic wedding at West Wycombe and belief in fairies may not be so unusual. But suckling a pig in imitation of the Virgin Mary, as she did for one albumís inside sleeve, is eccentric in anyoneís book. Her explanation didnít make it any less odd either: "I wanted it to be a Christmas card for my dad," she declared. "See, heíd been bugging me for years to make a Christmas album with church songs. Heís a Methodist minister in Florida." So it was a little unexpected when Amos got up at the end of being interviewed and said to me: "I hope youíre going make me out to be funny, not a total mad person." This seemed an uncharacteristically self-conscious thing to say (and a decade too late to start worrying). Since her dazzling debut album, 1992ís Little Earthquakes, Amos has cannibalised her life for songs. She has detailed being raped by a fan, her problems conceiving and her troubled relationships with her father and with God. In 2001, she braved the wrath of Eminem fans by covering the rapperís ë97 Bonnie and Clydeí, and turning its misogyny on its head. She has never run with the crowd. Defiant individualism has become a trademark, and her new album - part greatest hits package, part musical autobiography - is full of it. In the circumstances, worrying about being thought mad or humourless seems a peculiar Achillesí heel. Of course, humour and oddity are not mutually exclusive. Being Tori Amos, she has - and this must be some kind of a musical first - employed a librarian to help create (or should that be curate) the new album. "She has a doctorate in library studies," Amos says. "Iím following the Dewey decimal system. Thatís how librarians categorise books. So I thought it was right..." How exactly does that work? "Itís called Tales of a Librarian, so therefore you open up your package and each song is under a certain heading. Weíve attributed each song to a category." So, for example, the song ëSweet Dreamsí is filed under "Administration of George Bush, 1989-1993" (in case anyone is wondering, itís 973.928). ëCornflake Girlí, Amosís catchy yet bitter take on the limits of sisterhood, gets number 177, "Ethics of Social Relations (Betrayal)". ëPlayboy Mommyí can be found at 610, "Medicine and Health", sub-section 618, "Miscarriage", while ëGodí ("God sometimes you just donít come through/Do you need a woman to look after you") is assigned 230, "Christianity and Christian Theory", 231 "God". And so on. "You can see the whole system from 100-900, and youíll see what weíve chosen so the layout follows in numerical order. Thatís how you find the lyric page. You have a letterÖ" It sounds awfully complicated, I say. "Well, it isnít if you have a lot of material - 24 songs. The order I chose was the order I chose. But there needed to be a factual order, not just an opinionated order. The factual order is the Dewey decimal system." In some eyes, this explanation may fail to support the claims Amos makes about librarians in the albumís publicity material: "Knowledge is the sexiest. In my mind every librarian wears a stiletto heel." (What, even the men?) But it does tally with the singerís habit of explaining her life using intricate, often bewildering systems of symbols, archetypes and allusions. "If we could bring 20 people into this room," she tells me at one point, "it might take us two months, but if we had a group of mythologists in the room, we could work out the archetypes they were and the percentages in their body. Youíre going to have women with much more Aphrodite than Athena but they might have, I donít know - what would you say? - Queen Maeve in Ireland, you know, responsibility. And I think once you look at them there might be something thatís very subservientÖ" She has the unnerving habit of ending sentences with the words, "Do you see what Iím saying?", which may be the result of years talking to bemused interviewers or perhaps reflects the self-awareness that her thought processes are truly baroque. "In the native American culture you would need a medicine man or a medicine woman," she says, "because sometimes desire did take you to the point where you were willing to sacrifice the whole tribe for your desire. You know how they dealt with those people? They had to bring them in. And give them to the medicine woman and the medicine man, and sometimes they were left shut out of the whole tribe because they were going to bring the whole tribe down... Do you know what Iím saying?" And, rather cravenly, or because the record companyís very un-shamanic PR man has just popped his head round the door to call 15 minutes, you nod wisely and move on. Only later do you wonder whether this is how Tori Amos talks on the tour-bus, or in Sainsburyís, or at home in Cornwall, where she lives with her husband, sound engineer Mark Hawley, and their three-year-old daughter Natashya. On the day we meet at a central London hotel, Amos looks as though she could do with a medicine man herself. She is croaking like a frog - or a frog-prince perhaps. With her ginger bunches, thigh-length boots and jerkin, she looks like pantomime best boy. "I havenít been singing in weeks," she says. "I was doing six shows a week and never got this." She caught the sore throat from Natashya, who caught it weeks ago from drinking water after the electricity failed in New York while they were on tour and they had to sleep on the bus. Tomorrow Amos has to fly to Boston to do a gig for a radio show. She sounds understandably unenthused by the prospect. "But I have steroids and everything. Iím ready. If I start growing hair, Iíll just start shaving. [The organisers] own 18 or 19 stations in the US. You know what Iím saying? You canít say no, really. They helped break ëFairytaleí, my biggest single in America so far. Itís called power." Power is a concept Amos has spent a lot of time considering in both her professional and personal life. When Little Earthquakes was initially rejected by Atlantic Records she used the situation to assert control over her own recordings. By the time she recorded Under the Pink, in 1994, Amos was sharing producer credit with her partner of seven years, Eric Rosse. But while making that album their relationship collapsed and Amos propelled herself into a series of self-destructive, short-term liaisons which she describes in terms verging on the sado-masochistic. "I hadnít quite made the commitment to make the changes in my personal life, to get rid of people in my life, and thatís when things started to get a bit naughty. I just got in all sorts of situations where I was desperately looking for the dark prince and got distracted by a few baby demons. Itís very easy to denigrate another person who isnít the prince of darkness at all. It took me a while to understand that. Itís just bad manners." Would she call these relationships extreme? "Yes. Maybe not sort of bondage but emotional bondage. Mind games with people that needed to control and withhold. It was very much about psychological annihilation." And you were the one who wanted to be annihilated? "I donít know what I was looking for. I was looking forÖ the plugÖ to be plugged intoÖ the passion." Youíd never found that before? "Only at the piano." Honesty, Amos says, is one of the advantages of committing her autobiography to CD rather than to paper. In re-mastering her back catalogue for Tales of a Librarian, she has not added a note. "The material stands from time. The songs at the time reflect the pain in her [sic] voice and the lust in her voice. I mean, there were things she was up to that make me smile but, my God, Iím glad Iím a monogamous wench now." She does not have to look far to find the source of her sexual unease. "I think it comes from being in a religious household where there was a lot of shame attached to a womanís passion. You gave your soul to Jesus, you gave your authority to God and you gave your body to your husband. Thatís what my Scottish grandmother told me I needed to do when I was five years old. That woman would have had Mary Magdalene stoned to death." This paternal grandmother, Addie Allen, was a schoolteacher and a minister of the evangelical Church of God in Virginiaís Appalachian mountains, where there was a large community identifying themselves as Scottish. "She went to university in the 1920s - a very smart woman but very religious. She was controlled by the patriarchy. She was a woman within it." Amosís father, Edison, was also a minister, in the Methodist Church, and her mother, Mary Ellen, though part-Cherokee, shared his beliefs. Born Myra Ellen Amos in North Carolina in 1963, Tori recalls a childhood tainted by hypocrisy. "I would create songs as a frame to chronicle what was going on because, you must understand, nothing ever occurred that wasnít" - she pauses for a long time - "letís see - how a loving Christian should act." In the 2,500-strong church community, there was an official line and anything else happened behind closed doors. "It was utopia. If you thought differently you were out of your mind." A gay son rejected by his parents, would, for example, be expunged from history. "ëI donít remember that. He went away,í theyíd say." She compares this kind of wilful amnesia to that displayed by certain sections of American society after the attacks on New York in September 2001. "The media were threatened. If they asked certain questions of the administration, they were being unpatriotic." The paradox is that, for all the repression he presided over, Amosís father encouraged her career. Having won a scholarship to Baltimoreís prestigious Peabody Institute at the age of five, she was kicked out at 11 for preferring Led Zeppelin to classical music. "I didnít care if Beethoven made mathematical sense. I wasnít creaming," she once said. Despite this, Edison shepherded her round the cocktail circuit of Washington DC. "Yes, he was a paradox. I started playing Georgetown clubs at 13," she says. "I was playing two blocks from the White House at 15, which really began to shape me as a writer. The congressmen and their lobbyists would come in - yes, with their wives, but also with their rent boys and their call girls." During the Reagan years she played six nights a week, for four years. "So, you see, I went from church, which was very patriarchal and authoritarian, to that world, which was very patriarchal and authoritarian. But I got to wear a cute outfit, which was nice, and I got to listen. They sat at my piano and told me stuff all the time. I was 15, I was 16. They didnít think I was going to write about them." Politics remains an interest. After 9/11, for instance, she embarked on a soul-searching tour of America, a project that became last yearís album Scarletís Walk. But it is still religion, its imagery and value systems, which seems to have first call on Amosís fertile and original, if tangled, imagination. The language of Christianity pervades her work. "If I hadnít been a musician, I would have studied religious studies and mythology." But a lot of people from her background would have just run and not looked back. "Eye of the needle, eye of the needle," she responds. "How do you get rid of the snakebite? Gotta have the venom, right?" Does she still believe? "I believe that the Christian god exists. I believe that the Muslim god exists. Are they my god? No, neither one." So who is her deity? "It does not come fromÖ It transcends that for meÖ Do you know what Iím saying?" I sort of know, I say rather feebly. "Well, Mary Magdalene," says Amos, getting into her flow, "if you look back, was really, wouldnít you say, undercut by Peter and Paul, if you really look at her role. There was a book she wrote that was not included in the Bible. She was the first one Jesus appeared to. "Sheís referred to, you know, as a prostitute. Christian mythology is that she was the high priestess of IshtarÖ They might have had sex as part of their ritual. But instead of it being inclusive, they excluded her, and I think that we, as women, those who have been brought up in Christianity, have been trying to work through that for 2,000 years. "And the only way was to marry the two Marys together: Mary the mother and Mary who was aligned with her sexuality and her sensuality. One was completely devoid of it: she couldnít have sex to have children. And the other one had sex but no spirituality. You see? So you chose one, you donít get the other in the Christian myth, the paradigm, until we as women started to reform the paradigm, the archetypeÖ" This marrying of the two Marys, Amos adds, is something she has tried to do through her music since the beginning. As she puts it in her song ëMaryí, one of four previously unreleased tracks on the album: "Everybody wants something from you/Everybody wants a piece of Mary." That was written more than a decade ago, and like the rest of Amosís songs from that period, with their Kate Bush trills and dense, angry lyrics, it seems brutally, almost pathologically introspective. ëMaryí was also written before she met her husband-to-be, Hawley, who comes from Lincolnshire. Heíd turned up in 1994 as her sound engineer, not long after her relationship with Rosse had ended. Although instantly attracted to Hawley, she was too busy doing what she has called "playing the professional widow" to do anything about it. Finally, at a sound check, he asked her to answer a question: "Why is it that women chase after, and run off with, men who never see who they are or value what that is?" It was a turning point. In 1998, they married (she had a job telling her father he was not going to preside at the wedding) and eventually moved to near Bude, where Hawley had gone on happy holidays as a child and she felt happy with the Celtic pagan vibe. "A lot of people might not believe this," she says. "But sometimes one of the greatest things a woman can have in her life is a good man. When youíve been drawn to men that defecate on women emotionally, sometimes you donít need a drug. You just need a good man to value and make love to you." That sounds suspiciously close to what her grandmother would have said, I suggest. "No. She didnít believe in an orgasm - are you kidding me? She would say, ëGird your loins. Lucifer has your body if you have an orgasm.í I said, ëFine, Iíll have one every night on my piano stool.í" Love appears to have driven out some of the old demons. Amos was in her 20s when she was raped at gunpoint after offering a fan a lift home from a gig, an experience she wrote about in the starkly brilliant ëMe and a Guní. "Having a man that can make you feel safe, a man you can trust in that way" - by which she means sexually - "has healed me from the rape, and in the end, getting pregnant," she says. Natashya was born after Amos had suffered three miscarriages, the first of which she wrote about on the 1998 album Songs from the Choirgirl Hotel. "Having a child where Iíve been invaded before - Iíll tell you, talk about knocking anything that has been left dormant. When you become a beached whale and sheís just kicking it all around. Man, she pushed it out. That was an agreed invasion." But might not this late-flowering contentment be a double-edged sword for someone whose work has been so characterised by angst? "Well, Iíve realised one thing," Amos says. "That Lucifer is a woman. She wears a white suit and drives an ice-cream van." Meaning? "Meaning I was looking for Lucifer in all the wrong places, and Iíve found Lucifer in my own being." And does that make her happy? "If you look at her as a character, Happy is someone that I donít count on. Iím not as afraid of Happy as I used to be. If she walks in the room, I wonít have her escorted out. But Iíve held hands with Sorrow and she has a really good giggle, and once I learned to listen to her giggle, I think thatís how I wake up every morning. Really, Sorrow has the sweetest little laugh." For once she doesnít add: "Do you know what Iím saying?" * Tales of a Librarian: A Tori Amos Collection is released tomorrow -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:11:31 -0800 From: "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlife@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: green swingline stapler hi. i haven't written a lot lately here. i wish a million dollars would drop out of the sky onto my head. i could pay for school and an endless supply of paperback books and music and shit that i need and want. this adorable nice guy in my house is burning me the new blink cd because i am dying for it and i have no money because i'm fiscally irresponsible. no, looks don't matter when it comes to music. it helps when i'm trying to fall asleep at night and i can dream but no...that's silly. besides, if they are famous they just get some entourage to make them really attractive to be a sex symbol and sell more records which makes them a sellout which makes them unworthy but we still listen sometimes and turn up the radio if we're alone. i've been having to watch a lot of really old classic movies lately for my film class. if anyone wants to discuss, i'll be happy. gold rush starring charlie chaplin is one of the funniest movies i've seen in my whole life. the last week we have to watch citizen kane and then during dead week we have to watch the ultimate southern film: GONE WITH THE WIND. i think i need to smoke a lot of pot before i am forced to sit through that. it's 3.75 hours of sheer grandiose over dramatic entertainment in a 1939 production. i rented Annie last night. yeah, i FINALLY got to see it. cute...i'm sure i would've loved it a lot when i was little. ok, question for these rainy dreary november nights...what is your favorite song right now that you can't get enough of....and NOT sung by tori? and she's gone! jessica _________________________________________________________________ Is your computer infected with a virus? Find out with a FREE computer virus scan from McAfee. Take the FreeScan now! http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:15:12 -0500 From: John Bragazzi <utown@worldnet.att.net> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: bang bang Brian said: > I think you're talking about "So Long and Thanks For All The Fish". I thought that was one of the Hitchhiker books. I'll have to look it up. Have you ever heard his books on tape? He reads them himself, and he's really good. It makes the Monty Python influence even more obvious. > I think that's been my problem in recent years. I've spent too much time > trying to work out what is being said that I've forgotten that it really > should be all about the music. I gave up trying to decode the more difficult lyrics years ago. My ex-wife was a huge Yes fan, and I remember that she sat down once to figure out what one of their songs meant (their lyrics were very obscure). She did figure it out, the entire song did make sense, but she later said that it hadn't really been worth all the effort. > One criticism I have of sci-fi and fantasy (of which I've read a mountain > of) is that authors can too easily rigidly define their world, I agree. That's not how we discover *this* world, we discover it piece by piece, by trial and error. It would be pretty disappointing to get a huge manual at birth which would explain everything we're going to go through and why. One thing I like is movies which take place in an alternate universe, but they don't announce it, so you only figure it out gradually. "eXistenZ" was one, where it looks like our world, but there are various signifiers that it isn't, but they're all negative (things which are missing). The movie world has no computers, monitors, televisions, telephones, clocks, watches, running shoes, suits, jackets, ties or jewelry. But that's not real obvious. Another movie which takes place in an alternate world is "Kill Bill, Vol. 1". I really liked it when I saw it (twice), but I'm still working out why. So, anybody else here who saw it, please let me know what you thought about it. But one of the things I like about it is that you gradually realize it takes place in its own world (there are no cops, for one thing, either in the US or in Japan). But there are also little touches, like the fact that the seats on the airplanes have special slots for the passengers to store their samurai swords. The movie isn't real deep (to say the least), but I think that the second half (coming next year) will fill it out somewhat, and throw us some twists, too. Swords feature in another upcoming movie, the final "Lord of the Rings" movie. I wondered why Aragorn didn't receive his sword Anduril when he was at Rivendell in the first movie, and now I know why. He gets it in the final movie. I guess that's because the movie gives him a lot of 20th century self-doubt, which the Aragorn in the books didn't have. I can't wait for that, but I'll console myself tomorrow with the expanded version of "The Two Towers". As B/4, John -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:24:47 -0800 From: "Dalsh 327" <dalsh327@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: RE:..and why no DVDs??? Actually, Tori herself blocked the release of the 92-98 collection on DVD, but didn't go into specifics as to why. But she knows that people want it out. It's been brought up to her at the meet and greets. Not sure about interviews, though... she is going to be out promoting, so now is the time to bug her about it. Not sure why she decided to make the bonus DVD with just a couple of songs. The "reworked" versions are the songs she did early on, have been concert faves (although there are many more that she could have put out), and rushed through when she originally recorded them. Could be due to videos being released since then and the audio being so-so. Probably because the audio is going to be reworked and remastered into surround is my guess. The VHS release might have been hastily released at the time and was beyond her control. Judging by putting out "Tales", it doesn't sound like she had any real grudges with Atlantic except how they might have been promoting her near the end... besides, she is taking a "break" for a few years (artists never really take breaks, creating new stuff is always in the back of their heads), so that might be the time she'll look into touching up the old stuff for the audiophile geeks... Who knows, maybe we'll even get that 2 CD "Bee sides" set, or remastered rereleases with the Bee sides and a DVD of the videos/live perfs from that particular album. Pearl Jam just put out "Lost Dogs", their own "Bee sides" collection. You've got the original video from 92-93 as well as "Live in NYC" which should be out in the US by now. Pearl Jam has 3 DVDs out (Working Band, MSG, and Single Video Theory- not bad for a band that doesn't make music videos anymore), as well as having put out all their last 2 tours on CD for the fans. But at least she isn't anti-technology. But I hope she sold those MP3 stocks she got for doing that tour with Alanis before they wound up being worthless (the company is being sold) On the contrary, there are more and more DVD/CD packages being released. "The Matrix" DVDs already make their money back in the theaters to begin with... if anything, it sells itself. Music videos are still kind of a niche for people. However, you're going to see more home systems, cars and SUVs with high-end surround systems installed, so a lot of musicians are sifting through the tapes and remastering their stuff for this reason. I imagine we'll be hearing "LE" in DVD-Audio in the next couple of years. Sheryl Crow, Coldplay, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Talking Heads box set, and even J-Lo (who's even doing commentary on her videos) have combo packages out, or coming out... I think after seeing how well Led Zeppelin has done, others are diving into the archives or supplementing the CD releases with DVDs. In a way, they have to now in order to entice people to buy them. from: Pla01@aol.com My beef is Majors NOT releasing "Music Video" compilations because they want to put all of their time and trouble in the new "Matrix" DVD.... Because they will make more money from that DVD... Yet the DVD's I want to buy remain just an Idea ... or a promotional item that will cost me an arm and a leg on E-bay... I don't want just TWO TRACKS on my bonus DVD for "Greatest Hits"... How about a BUNCH of music videos.. or the Extended "Scarlett Sessions"... (It was broadcast on the Trio network so I was able to at least enjoy some of it though I really want the REAL THING) Anyway... Only Tori really knows the reasons for all of the "Re-Worked" Recordings and Canceled DVD's.... I can only speculate and practice my typing skills ;) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Shopping upgraded for the holidays! Snappier product search... http://shopping.msn.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:56:53 -0500 From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: In Regards to The Wall... Hey All! This is a forward I sent my school group: OK, if you are like me, Downtime is an unknown animal. I know what it's like to be buried under work, and I do feel guilty if I take time for me before work is done. But I have learned it is vitally important, so I would like to recommend a book and a DVD that should be Musts for any downtime. The Book: "My Ishmael" by Daniel Quinn. This is a Sequel to the book assigned for the honors class "Changing the World from the Inside Out" . "Ishmael" tells how we, as human beings, got to the precarious place we are at (i.e. ready to blow ourselves up). "My Ishmael" tells you what to do about it. Quinn has been able to put into simple terms what we need to do to save our schools, save our world, save all humanity. Yes, I said Simple. Pick it up and read it. I'm getting ready to start on "The Story of B" (which seems to be a continuation of the Ishmael tale) and will let you know if it is worthwhile. The DVD: "The Wall: Live in Berlin". In 1990, a year after the Berlin Wall came down, Roger Waters brought together the most amazing performers and musicians to perform "The Wall" on the spot of "The Wall", surrounded by 300,000 Germans, East and West. They actually build a huge wall during the performance, and I still get tears in my eyes everytime I watch them "Tear down the Wall". It is a powerful political *and* personal statement. I cannot recommend this highly enough. Pink Floyd purists, get over yourselves and understand this album in a whole new light. Pink Floyd newbie's, this is a great intro to what the music is really about. Just my opinion of course, but of importance. </forward> All I can say beyond that is get the DVD, not the video. It is a very long and involved concert that requires watching, whereas the audio selections choice allows me to work while listening to this awesome group of people. Yes the music is different. Think of what happens when Tori evolves. The songs become new beings. These songs are very recognizable new beings, for being brought to life by new voices. And Roger's voice fills the void between old and new. I think it's so amazing that I bought the CD for myself so I can listen in the car. And I find very few things THAT amazing. Fairy Blessings, Bethey I'm OK when Everything's not OK cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say And I have always been a Fairy. www.bethcoulter.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 23:25:11 -0500 From: ein kleines kinnemuzak <woj@smoe.org> To: torinews@smoe.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>, rdtrn@torithoughts.org, toriphery@groups.msn.com Subject: chartattack toal review <url: http://www.chartattack.com/DAMN/2003/11/1801.cfm > TORI AMOS Tales Of A Librarian (Atlantic/Warner) The holiday season is the time when Best Of compilations start coming out left, right and centre in the category of Gifts For People You Don't Know Very Well. However, this particular collection from the divine Ms. Amos has been thoughtfully prepared and is actually essential for any Tori fan worth their salt. Amos's discography is well represented, and even though the impressive liner notes explain that the tracks have been "reconditioned," it's not a cause for concern. The songs haven't been messed up by overproduction and remixing (with the exception of the dance remix of "Professional Widow," which stands out like a sore thumb). In addition to tracks culled from previous albums, Amos includes two new tracks, "Angels" and "Snow Cherries From France," and two formerly rare B-sides, "Mary" and "Sweet Dreams." The accompanying DVD features live performances and a photo gallery. This collection will rival the mix tapes you or your Tori-obsessed friends have made over the years. Shannon Whibbs -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:10:49 -0500 From: fingerpuppets <woj@smoe.org> To: torinews@smoe.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>, rdtrn@torithoughts.org, toriphery@groups.msn.com Subject: atlantic records toal press release <url: http://www.atlantic-records.com/news/newsContent_2767699_2769291_main.jhtml > TORI AMOS TELLS HER TALES OF A LIBRARIAN - IN-STORES, TV PERFORMANCES AND MORE - NEW ALBUM OUT NOW Nov 18 2003 PRESS RELEASE TALES OF A LIBRARIAN: A TORI AMOS COLLECTION is in stores now! Amos' first-ever compilation arrives in stores this week amidst a flurry of activity. The two-disc, CD/DVD collection was produced by Amos and includes songs which span her Atlantic career. Amos is slated for a series of TV appearances heralding the release of TALES OF A LIBRARIAN. On Wednesday, November 26th, she will perform on ABC-TV's LIVE With Regis and Kelly. Monday, December 1st will see Tori appearing on NBC-TV's The Tonight Show With Jay Leno, followed by a Wednesday, December 3rd visit to CBS' The Late Late Show With Craig Kilborn. The next day, Thursday, December 4th, Amos will perform on the nationally syndicated The Sharon Osbourne Show. Also, on Sunday November 16th, Comcast debuted an exclusive hour-long Tori special, which the cable system will re-air on Saturday, November 22nd at 10:30 pm. Tuesday, November 18th, will see the TRIO cable network devoting six hours of programming to Amos' music. The block - which includes a new episode of TRIO on Tour, entitled 'Tori Amos: Remixed, Remastered, Revealed,' as well as Amos' classic installment of Sessions At West 54th - will then be rebroadcast on Friday, December 5th. Tori's busy schedule also includes a pair of major in-store appearances. Monday, November 24th will find Amos at New York City's Tower Records' Village store (located at 692 Broadway) for a special record signing appearance. The two-hour event is slated to kick off at 6 pm. On Tuesday evening, December 2nd, Tori will play live at Tower Records' Brea store (220 South Brea Boulevard). Her 30-minute set - which will be open to the public - will be a special 'Star Lounge' session for Los Angeles/Orange County's Star 98.7 FM. Tori's performance will be followed by a private autograph signing for 60 contest winners. Tori fans can qualify for entry two ways, either on Star 98.7 or via ballot at any Tower Records Los Angeles/Orange County locations. Amos will also be extremely active online. Apple's iTunes is offering two exclusive bonus audio tracks to those who purchase the new album in its entirety. A newly redesigned www.toriamos.com site is being launched today to coincide with the arrival of TALES OF A LIBRARIAN. In addition, Tori recently performed live in a London studio for America Online's popular Sessions @ AOL series. An airdate for the session will be announced shortly. Tori's new video, for the song 'Mary,' was premiered as an exclusive, high-profile 'See First' promotion that ran on both the MSN and Windows Media websites. Listening party events can be heard this week on AOL, RealOne, and MusicMatch services. There's also a truly unique promotion kicking off at www.atlantic-rocks.com as of today, where Amos fans can enter to win an exclusive Accoutrements) Librarian Action Figure, personally autographed by Tori herself. The contest will also be promoted at 14 college campuses nationwide, including University of Michigan; University of Pittsburgh; University of California, Los Angeles; University of Colorado, Boulder; San Diego State University; Southern Illinois University; New York University; Five Towns College in Long Island, N.Y.; University of Minnesota, Minneapolis; Seattle University; Columbia College in Chicago; Georgetown University; University of Wisconsin, Madison; and University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill. Contest entries will be accepted online through Thursday, December 18th. Described by Amos as a musical 'autobiography,' TALES OF A LIBRARIAN documents a remarkable career spanning over a decade. The audio CD features 20 classic songs, including 'Precious Things,' 'Playboy Mommy,' 'Spark,' 'God,' 'Cornflake Girl,' 'Baker Baker,' 'Winter,' 'Tear In Your Hand,' and of course, 'Silent All These Years.' Amos has personally revisited and 'reconditioned' the original material, retooling the multi-track recordings to offer a new perspective on some of her most beloved songs. In addition, 'TALES OF A LIBRARIAN' will include a pair of brand-new songs - 'Angels' and 'Snow Cherries From France' - as well as newly recorded renditions of two ultra-rare B-sides - 'Mary' (originally found on the European 'Crucify' CD single) and 'Sweet Dreams' (from 1992s limited edition 'Winter' CD). As sequenced by Amos, the songs - which Amos has always considered to be her children - form a unique personal narrative and a breathtaking view of an extraordinary body of work. The bonus DVD features songs recorded live earlier this month during sound check of the final show of Amos summer 2003 North American tour. Performances include 'Pretty Good Year,' 'Northern Lad,' and 'Honey.' The DVD also includes audio remixes of 'Putting the Damage On' and 'Mr. Zebra' - from the album BOYS FOR PELE - which, like the three live performance tracks, were specially mixed for the DVD in surround sound. Accompanying the two audio tracks are images that visually chronicle Amos career. Unquestionably one of the most acclaimed and influential artists of the modern era, Tori Amos first captured the worlds attention in 1992 with her classic solo debut, the RIAA double-platinum certified 'LITTLE EARTHQUAKES.' Each consecutive Atlantic Records collection of original Amos material that followed has been certified platinum or better by the RIAA - UNDER THE PINK (1994), BOYS FOR PELE (1996), FROM THE CHOIRGIRL HOTEL (1998), and TO VENUS AND BACK (1999).). -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:57:07 +1100 From: Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net.au> To: Really Deep Thrusts Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Paris is fine in the the spring Newsflash: Paris Hilton exposed - the same as any other Hilton Hotel. I must admit, the Hilton sisters, Paris and Nickie, have been the source of much amusement over the last few weeks. They were flown to Australia by a television network to give an air of "class" to the spring horse racing carnival. I guess whoever at the network didn't get some references on this pair is now out of a job. At least they should be able to make a new TV series out of it - "When People With Money Become Insufferable". One newspaper report I got a chuckle out of said they kept disappearing to the toilets to "powder their noses". I'm guessing they weren't talking about makeup. Now I remember what I meant to say last week. I was having a peek at the official website of L7 (www.smelll7.com) and noticed they have taken down their "Shit List" due to the current political climate. Granted, the list was mainly targeted at members of the current U.S. administration, but there's something wrong when "freedom of speech" can get you attention from the government for the wrong reasons. Who's on my shit-list? Well if you've got a year.... Actually, somewhere around the top of my list is Limp Bizkit for their rendition of "Behind Blue Eyes" by The Who. When I first heard it I thought they were doing pretty well until the song gets to the bridge where they completely murder it and change the meaning of the song. Considering the band itself, they probably wouldn't have understood it anyway, so it's probably for the best but it still doesn't fit with their genre so I don't even know why they bothered covering it in the first place. On the subject of looks in music again, a local radio station was having the same discussion the other day and took it one step further. While you can find unattractive men in the world of music, in this day and age it's nigh on impossible to find unattractive women. They had listeners call in with examples of current women in music, but none of the names suggested made you want to reach for a paper bag and while they weren't necessarily good looking to some, they are to others. So I guess the question is, are there any truly unattractive women in music? 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