RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #1892

RDT Right Now #1892

From: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 20:42:05 -0800
Subject: RDT Right Now #1892
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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to: <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the subject and body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 04 : Issue #1892 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o The Alternative Star Wars Revisited [ "J. Mathers" <jmathers@westol.com> ] Politically Speaking... [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ] Remember [ Simon Booth <simonbooth@mac.com> ] for jim [ "jessica parsons" <fullblownlife@ho ] Re: RDT Right Now #1891 [ Pla01@aol.com ] This type of thing really vexes me [ rokzane@comcast.net ] one thousand kisses. two thousand hu [ Kerri R Klein <kklein21@student.sca ] Samsara [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ] Smoke on the water [ Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net. ] i've had bloody satisfaction [ John Bragazzi <utown@worldnet.att.n ] replies [ Simon Booth <simonbooth@mac.com> ] Personal: Bethey Date Update [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ] Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 22:40:06 -0500 From: "J. Mathers" <jmathers@westol.com> To: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: The Alternative Star Wars Revisited Two days ago we were in a state of depression about Judy. Worst case scenarios were running rapport. The alternative Star Wars was on my mind. All of sudden we got a call from my son-in-law on Tuesday and Judy came alive. She seems to be "normal" and remembers things, wants to eat, tries to talk, and has full motor control. It happened all of a sudden. It reminds me of a old movie with Igor and Dr. Frankenstein in a room with huge sparks flying around strange equipment and them screaming "She is alive! She is alive!" No one seems to know why she went into a brain dead state twice and came out twice. Her life is like a roller coaster with ups and downs. The alternative Star Wars doesn't exist after all. Speaking of the medical science: The secret of success is in the science business (as in the music business) is hype. Each discovery is hyped in the media to get public support and more funding. Last week I went shopping with Jean and made an amazing discovery. Probably one of the greatest breakthroughs in medical history had taken place at the Mayo Clinic and has made it to the market place with absolutely no hype. Last year scientists first make a synthetic virus and many fears were reached in the media about the implications. The search of artificial life has dominated science fiction for years. Cloning has been in the news always with a lot of hype. As we walked through the dairy department there it was, the carton of Premium Minute Maid orange juice. The carton had the folded tabs on top and on the both ends of each tab were tips. Right on top of the carton near the tips was the announcement "Healthy Living Tips from the Mayo Clinic"! Good God, the Mayo Clinic has created life! There was no hype, no public announcements, no news coverage, just nothing! The healthy living tips were just there without any fanfare. Minute Maid had put a sprout and a cap near the tabs so that the user does not have to damage the tips to get orange juice. They probably put them there to protect this living tissue. The tragic part is that nowhere on the carton does it tell how to care for the healthy living tips. How do you feed the tips? Do you put the tips into sugar water once a day? How do you tell when the tips died? How do they reproduce? A week later do you suddenly find that another carton of orange juice appeared in your refrigerator? Without these instructions the buyers simply throw out the cartons leaving the tips to die. What a tragic loss of life! What do you do until Minute Maid responds with instructions on caring for the healthy living tips? For human reasons you should make an effort to keep the tips happy as best you can. Talk to them, sing to them, and bring them into your family. At least you did your duty to preserve a new form of life. I was watching the news the last few days and came across another horror. Janet Jackson has a severe case of pixel growth in a sensitive place. It looks rather painful with those huge pixels on the poor woman's chest. I predict Janet will secretly check into the Mayo Clinic where they will have to perform pixel restoration. I had the half time show on but was not paying much attention as I was writing "The Alternative Star Wars". I may never see what it looks like. I checked the MTV site today and saw snap shots of the half time show but not the one I wanted to see! They have video replays for every thing else in the game on there so why not this. Maybe after the pixel restoration, she may expose it again for her concerned fans. You can tell that for the first time in over a month I am happy again. Have to end! Jim Mathers jmathers@westol.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 11:36:49 -0500 From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Politically Speaking... I'm hearing a lot of confusion over the current panel of candidates running for Dem Nom. If I may be so bold, I'd like to share some of my personal thoughts regarding the four front runners: Kerry, Clark, Edwards and Dean. John F. Kerry: My initial complaint about him was when he's not being JFK lite, he's being Bush lite. He's very proud of his similarities to the "King of Camelot" and has visions of restoring the glory of those years. Like most things, those years are better remembered than experienced. The "glory" was a PR product created and produced by Jackie O. I was a toddler then, true. But in everything I've heard and read, those years were pretty freakin scary with Nuclear War around every corner. I remember vividly in first grade having to hide under the cafeteria table during a "Duck and Cover" drill, and one of my earliest memories of TV was a duck in a flak helmet teaching a bear how to "Duck and...Co-Ver and you'll stay safe"; a sing along cartoon. I've heard nothing that makes me think Kerry would make a good president. Wes Clark: The man scares me. He never blinks, his eyes never soften. Beside Mike Moore being all for this dude, I know very little about him except he voted for Nixon, Bush, and Bush. What's a good republican doing pretending to be a dem? John Edwards: OK, my first bias is this is the name of the man who beat me for years and molested my daughter. Big, bad strike. Not the same guy, so I try to get that out of my head. I find no fault with him, except he was a lawyer. I think he could lead the country without causing damage, but I don't think he will inspire any real improvement. So the question would be, can he beat Bush? Howard Dean: As most of you know, I've supported Howard, even giving his campaign $25 I don't have. He did what I paid him to do. He got the stick out of the ass of the other candidates regarding the war. Because of the Deaniacs, the Democratic position has become completely anti-war, recognizing the immorality of our occupation of Iraq. But as I said after Howie's interview on the Daily Show: "Howard, I love you, but I don't want you in office." The interview was great, he played along; he was turned into the Teletubbies Sun Baby. I laughed so hard. NO, I don't want him in the White House. He is not what I want as the face of the nation. Where does that leave me? Casting a "negative" vote. This means that in November, I will pull the lever *against* George W. Bush, not *for* the nominee. And this bothers me. This is not what voting is supposed to be. What can be done? First, eliminate professional politicians. Our country was founded with the idea our representatives would be laymen turned statesmen. Politician was never meant to be a Job Title, nor a career. It was looked at as both an honor and a duty for the country, not waystation on the way to a better paying job (why have so many of them stayed in decades? No better paying position was offered). Regardless, Please make sure you vote. Vote for who you like (even those of you who will vote for Bush, get out and vote), but please vote. Our country depends on it. Peace, Bethey Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the Ark. Professionals built the Titanic. "Hope is patience with the lamp lit" Tertullian -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 00:29:00 -0600 From: Simon Booth <simonbooth@mac.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Remember Apollo 1- January 27, 1967 Virgil I. Grissom Edward H. White II Roger B. Chaffee Soyuz 1- April 23 1967 Vladimir Komarov Soyuz 11- June 30, 1971 Georgi Dobrovolsky Viktor Patsayev Vladislav Volkov STS-25 Challenger- January 28, 1986 Michael Smith Dick Scobee Judith Resnik Ronald McNair Ellison Onizuka Gregory Jarvis Christa McAuliffe STS-107 Columbia- February 1, 2003 Rick Husband William McCool Michael Anderson David Brown Kalpana Chawla Laurel Clark Ilan Ramon -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 23:48:42 -0800 From: "jessica parsons" <fullblownlife@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: for jim jim, i wish for you this year your daughter's health and your family's happiness. i sincerely hope everything starts to look up as soon as possible for everyone involved. come on guys, let's band together and pray to whatever we believe in! -jessica _________________________________________________________________ Create your own personal Web page with the info you use most, at My MSN. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200364ave/direct/01/ -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 03:07:20 EST From: Pla01@aol.com To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Re: RDT Right Now #1891 >>In a message dated 2/5/2004 11:09:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, rdtrn@torithoughts.org writes: dear FCC, boobs are not offensive or vulgar and no one should have to pay a fine for exposing one on national tv. get over yourselves. think of something important to do like clear channel dominating the world. thank you, jessica parsons<<< AMEN!! Peter -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 15:47:47 +0000 From: rokzane@comcast.net To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: This type of thing really vexes me Beth Coulter wrote: "person out of my head and heart. Luke asked, "You are still attracted to him?" Before any thought went into my reply, I heard my voice say simply, "I'm in love with him. But he doesn't want me."" Now, I really like you Beth, and I really do respect you. But this type of behavior always irratates me. If you're still madly in love with this prof, why the hell are you dating another man????!!!??? To string him along like a puppy who doesn't know any better? Sure, so he says he doesn't mind waiting for you, but you are only wasting this man's time and yours as well. Please do a reality check with yourself. If you're still over the moon about another man, you have no business starting another relationship with someone else. It's not fair to the other person's heart. I'm trying to be a friend here in being straight and honest with you. Roxanne -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 14:59:09 -0500 From: Kerri R Klein <kklein21@student.scad.edu> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: one thousand kisses. two thousand hugs. one glass of wine. one long story. jim, jim, jim. my thoughts are on your side, i'm hoping for the best for you and your family. i'm sending you my best pilots. please also remember to take care of yourself. k -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 22:25:37 -0500 From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Samsara Our resident supermodel asked: >>what are your thoughts on reincarnation?<< Funny you should ask. I'm studying Hinduism at the moment. The Vedas (sacred scriptures) state that all the cosmos are in a state of Samsara, that of transmigration. Everything begins, lives, dies, and is reborn. In deeper detail, Karma gives you a rest period as "food for the gods". When your Karmic merit runs out, you are returned as rain, grown as a plant, eaten by animals and eventually grow in the womb of a woman to begin the cycle again. When the Universe finishes it's cycle, it will die and be reborn in the same manner. Personally, I believe that what a person believes is their reality. Believe in Samsara and you will return again and again (10 times 10,000 times the Vedas say). Believe you are wormfood, and you will have your energy dissipated into the cosmos. I believe this is my only trip to Earth, that I've had 10 x 10,000 lives in one. Believe in a patriarchal God and heaven/hell, then that's what you get. This concept is discussed fully in my 'Believe" essay on my webpage (the first one under the picture). On Valentine's Day I get to do something really cool. I'm going to a Zendo in a Buddhist monastery to be led in a full days meditation with a Buddhist Nun. I'm really excited by the prospect, but I found out something that makes me a little antsy also. If I understood correctly, *my* professor is also going to this, driving one of the vans. I hope I misunderstood, for that might make it difficult for me to go into the zone I'm looking for. But I shall let fate guide me. I didn't know he was going when I signed up, and I'm not going to avoid him. The guy I'm dating has no problem with me doing something that day. He doesn't like Valentine's or giving flowers or any of that romantic stuff. Now that we don't discuss politics, it seems we have nothing in common (not that our politics were in common!). I like him well enough face to face, but this telephone relationship is lacking. Oh well. Fairy Blessings, Bethey I'm OK when Everything's not OK cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say And I have always been a Fairy. www.bethcoulter.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 20:51:46 +1100 From: Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net.au> To: Really Deep Thrusts Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Smoke on the water For those who can recall my bathroom renovation issues, I've finally got it sorted out. A plumber replaced the ridiculous pedestal basin with a vanity and I've got a mirror to replace the even more ridiculous and dangerous shaving cabinet. Next project... installing laminate flooring myself. A while back I also mentioned a local band that likes to practise on weekends and could never seem to get their timing right. They've introduced a drummer, a second guitarist and even expanded their repertoire in the last few weeks. Actually, the drummer really tightened them up to the point where they can get away with what they're playing, but it makes it even more obvious when they get it wrong. In digest 1891, Jessica declared... >brian, there really is no point in taking a picture of my groin. it's just >an inner thigh. it doesn't hurt anymore at all which worries me. what if i >run and injure it again? Speak for yourself, I think it's a pretty special region. You could have said, "I'll show you mine if you show me yours." You should be happy it doesn't hurt any more and if you warm up properly before going running, you shouldn't injure yourself. Lots of slow stretching with no bouncing movements are always a good idea before and after exercise. Your personal trainer should go through this with you beforehand if he's half decent and your injury is probably why you ended up with him in the first place. >people in my house are driving me crazy. i told this girl yesterday to >fuck off. it felt refreshing, It can also be really aggravating if the target of your ire doesn't take you seriously, thinks it funny, or just doesn't understand. There's a guy at work like this and no matter how you say it, he just doesn't get the hint. How clear can it get? Estraven replied to my rant on digital television. Thanks for your wonderful geek knowledge, it confirms I have been getting it right and it isn't my equipment that's the problem. When I first plugged my decoder in, I found I had 51 channels. There are only 5 commercial networks here. The only new channels are parliament. (Can't wait to watch that!) While I do live in a fringe area, I replaced my antenna and amplifier a year ago, plus upgraded the coax on the mast to military grade. I've certainly been considering a line conditioner and I've got a very good reason now to complete replacing the coax. I must admit my analogue signal deteriorated badly when I had my computer on, but digital doesn't care which is one nice improvement. > If you've got a scope, look at the AC power wave (carefully!). You >might be "shocked" at what you see. It's been at least 10 years since I've turned an oscilloscope on even. To think they used to be a critical fault finding tool! > Of course, given our awful TV here, the loss of a picture would > be animprovement most of the time. Especially Fox News. Amen to that. At least I'm compelled to do something else other than try to watch bad pictures of badder shows. Cyndi... you're watching The Wiggles? Oh dear. Hi-5 is much better, but I'm not sure if you get that there. >what are your thoughts on reincarnation? I'll tell you next time around. Jim, I must say I saw the original Star Wars seven times at the cinema when it first came out and have seen it countless times since. I went to school with a guy who saw it 44 times at the cinemas. As bad a plot as it is, it's still hard to go past it when you're my age, which would be very close to that of your son. Sorry to hear your daughter's condition has gone backwards, but again my thoughts are with you. Brian -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 06:32:52 -0500 From: John Bragazzi <utown@worldnet.att.net> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: i've had bloody satisfaction > "*** I Came Real Close To Seeing Elvis, But Then My Shovel Broke digest I've started listening to the other Elvis again in the past couple days. Somebody gave Bethany a copy of "My Aim is True" and that started me off. Jessica said: > boobs are not offensive or vulgar and no one should have to pay a fine > for exposing one on national tv. This whole story has been hilarious, including the fact that it's completely eliminated any mention of what was apparently a fairly exciting game. Serves the NFL right to turning the whole thing into a circus instead of a sporting event. It's especially silly because boobs are used to sell all sorts of things all the time, especially to guys who watch football games. But the boobs have to be a little more covered up, and they have to be under the control of the media folks. No surprise boobs, just planned boobs. So, you can expose as much cleavage as a Wonderbra (and Photoshop) can conjure up, but you can't expose a breast if they don't expect it. Even with a pastie, or whatever they're calling it these days. Yet more evidence that, if there is life on other planets, they have not got in touch because they're watching our broadcast media and they think the human race is dangerously insane and best left alome. Oh, well. I read recently that someone said Britney Spears has reached the "Will Strip for Airplay" stage of her career. I guess she's not the only one. > think of something important to do like clear channel dominating the > world. "The radio is in the hands of such a lot of fools tring to anesthetize the way that you feel." Elvis C. said that over 25 years ago, and it's far more true now than it was then. One of my favorite memories of him is when he appeared on Saturday Night Live (the "live" TV show that hates surprises) and abruptly stopped playing the scheduled song (probably "Less Than Zero," but I'm not sure) in order to rip through a ferocious "Radio Radio." U.S. TV audiences needed to hear Radio Radio a heck of a lot more than they needed to hear anything else, and he knew it. I read later that Lorne Michaels was in a fury, cursing Elvis out and giving him the finger from behind the camera. Heh heh. Again, no surprises, that's what they like. I don't miss TV, and the only radio I listen to is news and NPR. As B/4, John (if you'd like to read a mystery novel, you could go to http://text.u-town.com/sane) -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 06:45:18 -0600 From: Simon Booth <simonbooth@mac.com> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: replies happy birthday angela, Jim, and Joanna! :) violet- still sick, or are you finally feeling better? *hugs* bethey- hugs to you too. never friendless! :) jim- "killer tomatoes" in surround sound? Amazing how even with today's Dolby 5.1 and DVD technology, B movies ultimately look like.... B movies, only with a better picture and sound ;) sorry to hear about your daughter's situation. > from bethey: >Glad to see Simon back. Love ya guy! thanks :) pretty cool basing a class project on Tori's music. linda (lindagyne) wrote: >I drink too much coffee. I know I say that a lot >but... I do. you are wrong! there's no such thing as too much caffeine! :) >So anyway, to be completely cliche, I was listening to >Pretty Good Year earlier this evening and reflecting >on this past year. Tori is never cliche! And on Mars, Pretty Good Year is even more interesting, since a Martian year is two Earth years long- lots more to reflect on at the end of the year! ;) By the way- according to the latest findings by the two Mars rovers currently exploring that planet, scientists have concluded that Mars is no place to raise your kids, because it's cold as hell there. brian wrote: >What must be said is that I've never felt that Simon has >manipulated people on this list in the past. As you say, Simon, you were >just being yourself. You may regret things you've said when you first >joined this list and you'll probably find that most people feel the same >about themselves. The fact you can look back now and cringe suggests you've >grown as a person and from what I've seen, you have. Thanks. Indeed, I had been looking at the archives when I posted that because it hit me that perhaps somehow I had made myself look less real *because* I had opened up with so much over such a short period of time- perhaps some of the end-of-year reflecting that happens in December as well. When I came on in '98 and opened up with so much so fast it to me felt like something I *had* to do, because I had found myself heading way into the unknown, and while it sounds so bizarre now, at that time I truly felt like my time was running out. The frustration for me is that very real and very intense feelings end up being so hard to really articulate, and what comes out ends up sounding dramatic- unintentional, but it ends up happening because metaphorical descriptions and "technical" descriptions like literary comparisons is just the "language" I speak. And sometimes I get caught up in expressing something and it sort of gets out of control. I look back now and realize that in the end, I never needed to come on so strong. Never was a need to fight to be understood and accepted among people I was already friends with. >Talking about your problems in a public forum can appear as either simply >relating a story or an attempt to garner attention through sympathy and it >is a very fine line between the two. And I admit that it's possible to cross that line and not realize it. >Do it too often and people will start >to become suspicious, as they did in your case, along with other list >members who had a similar style. I can honestly understand why someone might become suspicious but what I found so upsetting was that the suspicion and hostility seemed so over the top and unwarranted. I admit it though, one main reason it's hard for me to shake such an experience is that I've had the shitty luck in the past of running into similar situations- I'm having some sort of difficulty, and out of nowhere people around me suddenly decide they're fed up with whatever it is they think I'm up to, complete with feeling betrayed and lied to after providing help or support. Never had made sense, and I end up feeling really hurt and confused because all those times it's happened, I'm left trying to figure out what the hell might I have done that got such a bizarre idea in someone's head. It's never been something that happens every day, of course, but when it has happened it's just so unexpected and completely out of proportion to the situation at hand. Not just with emotional issues- I've actually had credibility problems with medical problems I've had when I was younger, and more recently, with my disability because my talking alot about it inadvertently aroused suspicion in some people, when in reality, I honestly was trying to deal with things in a way that worked for me- talking about it, learning as much as possible about how to adapt, and talking shop with others in similar situations. Nowadays I try to let that go because it's been a long time since I've had any problems, and it's frustrating that it's so hard to shake the memory of those experiences. > If what is said is genuine, comes from the >heart and is not embellished to seek attention, then if people feel >uncomfortable about your motives than that is their problem. Hindsight is 20/20...nowadays for the most part I can keep that feeling in mind. I admit though I still get a little skittish when I'm meeting a new group of people (new class for example) and I'm trying *not* to worry about people seeing my chair but not seeing *me*- odd I know because I've been doing this for 11 years now and I've adapted to every other aspect except that. Reminding myself that positive reactions from people aren't some ill-gotten gain, and nor are positive reactions to what I express- important these days since in the classes I'm in there's a lot of creative work that has to be looked at and critiqued. This semester I'm taking a drawing class, and I'm still suprised that my initial forays into drawing have met with good reactions from both my instructor and fellow classmates ;) The challenge for me is not to overthink everything. Where my chair is concerned, I reached a point a long time ago where it was as second nature to me as putting on my glasses in the morning, and I remind myself to apply that to interacting with people. I'm cool with myself, and it's ok to allow other people to be cool with me. >Of course, >someone were to manipulate an audience just to feed their own egos they >certainly deserve all the negative attention they can get. Sure, it is >possible to be like this subconsciously, but if you feel comfortable within >yourself then you have nothing to apologise for. And I think that's what it comes down to...realizing there was never anything "wrong" in what I was doing, perhaps misguided, but never anything ulterior. Same with the positive expression: letting my enthusiasm get the better of me, I'll admit to, but it's not like I wake up each morning trying to see who I can pull into a chat about things I'm interested in. As for the person I mentioned....still disappointing. >Plus I had absolutely nothing to do with parachuting out of a 727, so there! Does QUANTAS even have 727s in its fleet? Interestingly, the modification to 727 rear doors to prevent their being opened in flight was dubbed the "Cooper Lever"! My father was ready to parachute from a 747 over the Atlantic in '93. He was on a business trip to Germany, and the in flight movie was Home Alone 2. By the way...the "Cooper" who pulled off that 1971 hijacking is thought by some to have pulled off a second extortion and hijacking- the following year an identical incident took place, including the hijacker bailing out of a 727 over the western US. He was eventually caught, and while at the time it was seen as a copycat of the original DB Cooper incident, later on some people have theorized that this "copycat" might have in fact *been* "Cooper" pulling off a second hijacking. Various people over the years have also claimed to have been DB Cooper or to have known him. It's the kind of mystery that's so intriguing it will probably be a huge "letdown" if and when it's ever solved. oh- this spring marks 31 years since the start of the first international space project. The joint US/Australian SVIB Workshop, 1973-79. excellent comments to bethey about christmas. regarding TOL: is it just me, or does the pic of Tori on the cover look a little like the style of the pics used on the cover of SLG? about sci fi film/tv effects and overused footage: >It's funny you mentioned Battlestar Galactica as they had very limited >stock footage of Cylon fighters in motion. Even as a kid I could see how >bad that was, but at least the plot was good if cliched. That's one thing the purists bitching about the 2003 remake don't seem to get: the original 1978 effects were excellent for the time, and still look decent, but today it's possible with CGI to make more original effects shots and more realistic space action scenes in general. One of the things about stock footage that I think has become a running joke is that to fans of particular films and TV shows it's almost an MST3K- type game to see what footage was ripped off from somewhere else, and what the original source might have been. I've seen parts of older sci fi flicks pilferred for other movies, along with old NASA footage being passed off as scenes of a futuristic space launch. Even documentary makers have gotten sloppy over the years: it seems like for a given subject for a documentary, there's a limited batch of photos, film, and video that various producers seem to have worked from, so ultimately historical programs all look the same. Space documentaries all seem to have been made using the same stock footage of a rocket launch and an odd mishmash of whatever looked interesting but didn't really fit the the subject of the documentary. Rather than find material that actually came from the space flight they're making a program about, they merely go into that same batch of generic material. I recall reading about how a particular overused sequence that gets used in just about every program about Apollo 11 is actually made up of footage filmed on earlier test flights and the *later* moon missions. anyway- >I know precisely what you're talking about and it never fails to astound >me. My mother has had three knee reconstructions over the years. The >initial ones were done in the mid 80's and each had her in plaster for 6 >weeks plus there was months of physiotherapy after that. With the one she >had done nearly two years ago, there was no cast and they had her up and >walking the next day. I was also astounded to see a guy who had his hip >replaced the day before walking. My father was driving a month later and while by this point he's recovered fine, he's still amazed at *not* feeling the pain and discomfort he endured prior to the replacement surgery. A lot of the estimates on how difficult the recovery was supposed to have been seem to have been worst-cast estimates because none of it came close. Interestingly, it seems that he's gotten better results from just going out and about doing everyday things and pushing a little harder each time as opposed to the official physical therapy plan. I was joking with him about the metal in the artificial joint triggering security scanners and metal detectors- and turns out that he actually was issued sort of an ID card that states what type of implant it is, when the surgery was done, and the contact info for his doctor. I'm not sure if that was standard all along or something they started doing more recently. I had my back surgery in December of 1984 and I was never advised about the implanted metal in my spine being picked up by metal detectors, and if it has been picked up when I've gone through a security check area no one said anything. on the subject of sci fi novels: I've always loved to read but more and more I've noticed that for some reason it's hard for me to actually sit down with a book and read without losing focus...but I can focus just fine on either spoken material (lectures for example) and reading on a computer screen. so I've been looking into audio books or ebooks as an alternative, but it's hard to decide... I'd hate to think that a book in either form is less enjoyable and possibly watered down compared to the printed version. one thing I've already noticed is that some ebooks are only made for microsoft's ebook reader, for which no Mac version exists (abobe's is available for both). I'm willing to bet the first title released for the MS ebook reader was was Anton LaVey's "Satanic Bible". britney spears CDs have a place. As props in a remake of "Farenhiet 451". cyndi- how's starting a band going? and no, I didn't name my dog after that ISP you hate so much ;) bethey- how did the date go? :) welcome back winterlion! bethany wrote: >i swear that it would be a cold day in hell when some dumbass music critic >would compare Tori Amos to Meatloaf. shows what i know. Charon needed snowshoes to cross the river Styx, and they achieved superconductivity there! Last time hell froze over was in November of 2000. linda (gyne): I too have been trying to write...pisses me off that I can't get anywhere with it beyond a rough concept. any advice on how to actually get *something* going? happy birthday elizabeth! more from brian >>Simon wrote in #1887... >>One really neat thing I got for the computer besides the printer is a >>Jump Drive. > >You mean it's only a memory device? I thought you'd purchased something for >transferring between two points in hyperspace with a name like that. And >yes, USB memory is incredibly handy. The name "JumpDrive" does seem a bit much...but the concept really is cool. Like I said before, I wonder if that's the direction things will go as we reach the upper limits of CD and DVDs for storage. From the looks of it, the technology the Jump Drive is based on seems to be capable of evolving into something with larger capacities as newer versions are developed with the device itself remaining the same size. nbelievers and this line from a critic: >Long live Tori, death to the heretics. YES! I've been saying that for 6 years! happy birthday Joanna, mikewhy, Brian T., Stephanie, and Leanne again from brian: >Subject: One time. At band camp. hard to watch "Buffy" reruns after seeing that film! ;) cyndi- looking forward to seeing the redesign on your page. and on the subject of video editing, that's precisely what some of the classes I'm going to be taking later on will cover: digital video. also looking forward to learning about 3d animation :) >Simon to me: "cyndi- were you able to save anything from the crashed drive?" > I'll find out when I get a new computer. the current one is dead. the >motherboard fried somehow.... *grumble* two words i Mac (or is it one word? iMac? ;) ). > *** With Love, From Mars digest *** and To Venus and Back! :) happy birthday tesserae and Victoria! :) and that's it for now! We live for The One, We die for The One. Simon -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 22:12:40 -0500 From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Personal: Bethey Date Update When we last left our heroine, she was dating a graphic artist from Harrisburg that she met on a UK internet dating site. Although their politics were diametrically opposed, she thought there might be at least an enjoyable experience there. Flash forward: I will Never, Ever do internet dating again. Maybe it might work for some people, but not for me. Let's face it, you guys know me (if you don't, you will), of all the up-front people you will ever meet, I'm probably the up-frontest (kudos to Neil Simon for the line). People on the internet tend to adopt a persona that just doesn't carry into real life. I won't go into all the nit picking details of what went wrong, for it's just stupid crap. The breaker was that he sent me a horribly racist joke about Arabs, thinking I would laugh at it. How could anyone know me for a month and think I would laugh at something racist? Last I checked, Racism wasn't part of being a peaceful person. The good news? It helped me formulate my philosophy a little clearer, and I would like to share that with you. The Hinduism course I'm taking helped me find the words, the relationship helped me clarify the feeling behind the words. I wrote him: Our philosophies are different and that's cool. The world, the reality that I exist in isn't one that is easily experienced. None of this "stuff" matters. All is One. I believe that with all my heart. I will never condone war for any reason. At least not until they go back to knives and spears and hand to hand combat. I will never again blame someone for something, I will merely attempt to understand their reasoning. I can't expect ANYONE in this world to live in My world. I see what everyone considers reality, but it's not MY personal reality. My reality consists of my actions making a universal difference because everything is one, therefore, my actions are all actions in the effect. What I do may not make a visible difference at the time, but Universally, I create an echo that makes a wave that eventually creates a difference. Maybe not in this lifetime, but the echo has started. And that's what I want to spend my life doing, creating those echoes. </excerpt> Am I so wrong for not being able to accept a materialistic conservative into my life? If so, then let me be wrong. Everything he stands for is everything I find wrong with this world. Why did it take me a month to figure it out? Because it was Internet Dating! Who he presented was not who he was. The saddest part of it is I just got an email from him expecting an apology because I called his joke bigoted and ignorant, and therefore must have said he was an ignorant bigot. Silly me, I'll probably do so just to soothe his feelings. I can't stand to think I have ever hurt anyone. I wish he had dumped me as opposed to making me dump him. He threatened to, and I was really hopeful. So that's that, no more pretty fairy tales for this lady. Thanks for reading this far. Like I've said before, it blows me away that so many people are interested in my silly little life. :) Fairy Blessings, Bethey I'm OK when Everything's not OK cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say And I have always been a Fairy. www.bethcoulter.com o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o *** Bet Some Of You Forgot You Wrote This Stuff digest *** To POST messages to this list: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Can't figure out how to SUB, UNSUB, or CHANGE ADDRESSES? Send a message to <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "help" as the subject. Digest PROBLEMS or QUESTIONS? Contact: <admin@torithoughts.org> Want your BIRTHDAY announced on RDTRN in 2004? 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