RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #1898

RDT Right Now #1898

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Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 01:23:34 -0700
Subject: RDT Right Now #1898
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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to: <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the subject and body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 04 : Issue #1898 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o weee! [ "Madame Ade" <alexandriasisp@hotmai ] "It all makes perfect sense..." (the [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ] bethany is... [ "Bethany Rose" <hejira@u-town.com> ] to jim [ "juan manuel torreblanca" <cheefoos ] tori on "Carved In Rock II" [ fingerpuppets <woj@smoe.org> ] How many . . . light bulb? [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ] Tori Amos Collectables for Sale [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ] I'll teach you all this [ John Bragazzi <utown@worldnet.att.n ] Health [ Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net. ] Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 01:17:42 +0000 From: "Madame Ade" <alexandriasisp@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: weee! Hiya, folks! Thanks for all the happy birthdays and such! I went to the liquor store... and saw my high school guidance counselor. Hehehe. And I went out for Chinese food. Good times. Not drunk yet, nor do I think I will be tonight, but that's ok. I'm still having fun. - Ade *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* http://merlin2.alleg.edu/student/c/conwaya/index.html http://agentfroot.livejournal.com *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar ñ get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 17:30:03 -0400 From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: "It all makes perfect sense..." (the Prophet Roger Waters) I, on rare occasion, find something that touches my soul, my mind, my heart, and I feel compelled to share it with you all. I hope at least one of you will be inspired to allow it to touch you as well. My last recommend was "My Ishmael" by Daniel Quinn (I still recommend it), and "The Wall in Berlin" by Roger Waters. Well, I have discovered something else by Roger than I am thrilled with. The album is "Amused to Death", which was released 15 years ago. You must get this, and listen closely to it. I'm prepared to honor Roger with the same prophet status I give John Lennon. "Can't you see, it all makes perfect sense; expressed in dollars and cents, pounds, shillings and pence" says the "global anthem" near the beginning. It's about American and British forces going to war, for no reason than it makes for good TV. Roger denounces the Old Man who gets off on killing people, with "the bravery of being out of range", shooting laser guided bombs (really great for righting wrongs) from 3000 miles away. It's so fitting for what is going on, the Pentagon brass making the decisions from DC, treating the troops so disposably. My pick for most awesome song has the worst 1 minute intro I've ever heard. It's methodical mortar rounds shot..."BOOM...BOOM...BOOM" every 5 or so seconds. But then it blends into the most awesome rock song. Let me write out the full chorus for you: "You don't have to be a Jew To disapprove of murder Tears burn my eyes Muslim or Christian Mullah or Pope Preacher or poet who was it wrote Give any one species too much rope And they'll fuck it up." Prophet Roger!!! How did you know??? (Roger just sounds *wrong* for a prophet somehow). The album concludes with the two songs that made me get the album. "It's a Miracle" is about things that are miraculous, like a Brazilian growing a tree, or a doctor saving a dying man for free. But one line near the beginning is "Between the Tigress and Euphrates there's a leisure center now". All I can picture is the Coalition Green Zone, in the palace there. It's where the brass gets to take their R&R, while the lowly fighting ranks get to go to Kuwait. A leisure center, with swimming and tennis. In the "cradle of civilization". *sigh* I hear at the Iraqi site of the Garden of Eden, it's all paved over, with a single olive tree representing the garden. Joni was right, they paved paradise and put in a parking lot. The last song is the title song. It's about our television-bred, consumer-centered society, turning on the news as just more entertainment. At the end, aliens come to find us huddled around our TV screens, and "...eliminating every other reason For our sad demise, They logged the only explanation left... This Species has Amused itself to Death." This is one of the best albums I've ever heard. I've only outlined half of the songs, the rest are just as awesome. The music is good, old Rock and Roll. Andy Fairweather Low does incredible things to various guitars, and reading the liner notes is amusing (e.g. Rickenbacker 12-string played with a feather). Jeff Beck does a few songs also, and Rita Coolidge assists backup on the title track. So, "Amused to Death" by Roger Waters could be considered one of the soundtracks for current events. If you like Rock and Roll, you will adore this for the music. If you love lyrics (as I do), this album will grab you where you live. As a bonus, there is an interesting sound thread in voice-overs and sound effects. It's definitely a "concept album" in that the whole thing tells a story. It also has some great stand-alone tracks. I hope this inspires at least one of you to locate this and take a listen. I find it simply amazing (obviously). Thanks for your time. Off to your regular life. Peace, Bethey Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the Ark. Professionals built the Titanic. "Hope is patience with the lamp lit" Tertullian -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 20:11:03 -0400 From: "Bethany Rose" <hejira@u-town.com> To: "Dipfucks" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: bethany is... it's been ages since i posted.... insane. today i graduated from Tyler School of Art, Bachelor of Fine Arts, cum laude, with a GPA of 3.43. it's not a fantastic grade point average, but it's enough to eventually get into graduate school. amazing that i've been on this list so long that i announced my high school graduation in a similar way. i wonder if i'll be around to someday announce the completion of my MFA? in fact....a blast from the past: ******************* Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 21:52:50 -0400 From: Ru$en <ru$en@nbn.net> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: umm...uhhh...no. hey everyone I graduated from high school tonite. yay Now onto college. ack. whatever >Koba, I have one question, and I'm sure you'll give me hell, but >exactly how do you pronounce "scheherazade"? Ah, don't worry, i pronounced it the first time wrong too. Jesus, that poor kid... (but there is a cool story behind the name) i'll post more when i have something interesting to say. Most things have me lost these days. mp3s? i like em, i download em. they're fun. Axl Rose? Who? Dream Theater? (still waiting for a recommendation Koba) Bethany *************** (have a feeling no matter how much time goes by i will never live down the whole "Who is Axl Rose" thing) got a pretty bad sunburn during the ceremony on my back, neck and shoulders for like the first time since i was 17. so. i need major good juju from all of you next Wednesday (the 26th) around 4 pm Eastern time, because i have an interview for a 2 year residency at a pottery studio in New York City. i'm really nervous, and it occurs to me that this is the first interview in ages that i've actually cared passionately about. i mean, i've had interviews for dumb things like jobs at Starbucks and Bed, Bath and Beyond, but not anything i've particularly cared about. this i really do care about. i have to knock em dead. so like i said - major good juju. thank you. Jim - that's so amazing what happened with your daughter. miracles do indeed happen. the best for all of you in her recovery process. as per Bethey's post, i don't think we've actually had a progressive politician in a major office for decades. i think the climate is just not right for them right now. i wish it was. i hope it will be soon. it seems that modus operandi for both major parties is simply a holding pattern - damage control, maybe - rather than any real progress on domestic or foreign fronts. it's so nice to be back, dear RDT. cheers, bethany _______________________________________________________________ a journal : http://hejira.u-town.com she said losing love is like a window in your heart everybody sees you blown apart (paul simon) -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 00:13:46 -0500 From: "juan manuel torreblanca" <cheefooska@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: to jim jim, your story made my day i am so very happy for you & i believe if there is someone who deserves such a gift... who deserves to be heard by whoever pulls the strings it's you you had me worried a lot, & moved me many times use this new chance to give your daughter more & more love (that's the best we can do while on the train, i think) & i hope her astronaut muscles get used to gravity step by step hugs juan _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 13:26:22 -0400 From: fingerpuppets <woj@smoe.org> To: torinews@smoe.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>, rdtrn@torithoughts.org, toriphery@groups.msn.com Subject: tori on "Carved In Rock II" according to billboard, the live performance of "a sorta fairytale" from tori's concert there last august will be included on the second _carved in rock_ compilation: <url: http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000516036 > Coldplay, R.E.M. Grace Red Rocks Set Coldplay, R.E.M., U2, Willie Nelson and Ben Harper are among the artists represented via live recordings on "Carved in Stone Vol. 2," recorded at the famed Red Rocks Amphitheatre outside Denver. The 10-track album will be available in the Denver area beginning June 4 and nationally on June 15. It follows the 2003 release of the first "Carved in Stone," which featured Phish, Widespread Panic and Indigo Girls. The lone previously released cut on "Vol. 2" is U2's "Sunday Bloody Sunday," which first appeared on the Irish rock quartet's 1983 live album "Under a Blood Red Sky." Stevie Ray Vaughan's "Pride and Joy" was captured at the late guitarist's final Red Rocks appearance in 1988, while Coldplay's "Politik" was taped in June 2003 during the group's maiden performance at the venue. Net profits from the sale of the album will be donated to the Preserve the Rocks fund, dedicated to the ongoing rehabilitation of the Red Rocks site. Here is the track list for "Carved in Stone Vol. 2": "Sunday Bloody Sunday," U2 "Pride and Joy," Stevie Ray Vaughan "Politik," Coldplay "Break You Off," the Roots "Screaming John," Sonia Dada "Soulshine," Gov't Mule "A Sorta Fairytale," Tori Amos "Diamonds on the Inside," Ben Harper "Beer for My Horses," Willie Nelson "Pretty Persuasion," R.E.M. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 12:25:34 -0400 From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: How many . . . light bulb? How Many Members Of The Bush Administration Does It Take To Screw In A Light Bulb? The Answer is SEVEN: (1) one to deny that a light bulb needs to be replaced (2) one to attack and question the patriotism of anyone who has questions about the light bulb (3) one to blame the previous administration for the need of a new light bulb (4) one to arrange the invasion of a country rumored to have a secret stockpile of light bulbs (5) one to get together with Vice President Cheney and figure out how to pay Halliburton Industries one million dollars for a light bulb (6) one to arrange a photo-op session showing Bush changing the light bulb while dressed in a flight suit and wrapped in an American flag (7) and finally one to explain to Bush the difference between screwing a light bulb and screwing the country Much thanks to the forwarder of this to me. Hope you all enjoy it. :) Peace, Bethey -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 12:25:42 -0400 From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Tori Amos Collectables for Sale I hate having to do this, but I'm in a severe summertime money crunch (happens every summer, I don't know why), and I need to sell about half of my Tori Amos collection (CD Singles, rare posters, and concert videos). I thought I'd throw the offer out to those of you interested instead of going to Ebay. So if you are interested, shoot me an email and I'll send you the list of stuff and you can send me your offer. I'll give it till Memorial Day for you all to reply before I take the lot elsewhere. But I'd prefer it go to friends, if you know what I mean. Peace and Fairy Blessings, Bethey I'm OK when Everything's not OK cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say And I have always been a Fairy. www.bethcoulter.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 06:28:00 -0400 From: John Bragazzi <utown@worldnet.att.net> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: I'll teach you all this So, this live DVD kinda crept up on me. I hadn't heard a thing about it until Wednesday, and then I wondered, "hey, when is it coming out?" and it turned out it *was* out. Guess with RDT in hibernation I don't have the most up-to-date news. So, does anybody have it? Is it good? Is it sucky? Is it a life-changing experience? I did buy a DVD last week, though. I bought Return of the King (of course). Haven't watched it all the way through yet (that's too much for a work night), but I have popped around to some of my favorite scenes (scenes with Eowen, scenes without Arwen, scenes with Theoden, scenes before battles, Aragorn gets Anduril (finally!)). I'll probably watch the whole thing this weekend. The Two Towers may still be my favorite, though. I also bought So-Called Chaos. So far, it seems to be comparable to Under Rug Swept (i.e., top shelf), but time will tell. It has all the things I like about Alanis: her annoying voice her tendency to put the emphasis on the wrong syllables of words the fact that she documents her own thought processes even more thoroughly then Tolkein documented Middle Earth her ability to come up with really good hooks (most of the time) her humor (thing about her which is most often overlooked). So, my job is now tentatively possibly indefinitely scheduled to end on August 2nd. Maybe. I'm not getting emotionally attached to that date or anything. It's changed too many times. I have seen the new area my department is going to move into, and there are fewer seats than we have now. So, there you go. As B/4, John -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 21:58:43 +1000 From: Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net.au> To: Really Deep Thrusts Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Health John wrote in digest #1897 regarding free health care: >It's obviously not going to happen in the US any time soon (or at all), >but medicine is more and more nakedly a business for profit, There are even more reasons why it's unlikely to happen any time soon in the U.S. due to the enormous deficits run up by the war in Iraq, the ongoing war on terror and tax cuts to people who were only likely to be rich already. The only way you'll ever get it is to increase takes. Here, every taxpayer pays the Medicare levy on top of their income tax, which has a sole purpose to be spent for healthcare. I think it's about 1.25% but I'm not sure as I let experts handle my taxes. But anyway, that levy alone does not cover the growing demand for healthcare and the ever increasing costs of new medical services. The system has been butchered by the current government over three terms in office and has been complicated further by "carrot and stick" tax arrangements that I'll spare you. In regards to drug companies and their profits, as public companies you can't really deny them turning a profit, but when does too much profit become morally bankrupt? Judging by all the spam I get on medications from Canada, it's not hard to tell consumers in the U.S. are being gouged at the expense of everyone else. In Australia, drugs that are deemed to be essential fall into the Public Benefits Scheme (PBS). The PBS through government funding subsidises the cost of these pharmaceuticals so patients can afford them. Even when you take into account the subsidy, you're still paying far more for drugs than we are. One of the sticking points in the free trade agreement recently signed by our two countries was the PBS. We were always saying it was not negotiable. The drug companies wanted it ended. What resulted was a continuation of the subsidies but with a clause saying it could be "reviewed". Nothing has been specified for the review process so there's really no reason why the U.S. government, under pressure from the drug companies couldn't "review" the scheme by saying it is over, causing prices to skyrocket overnight. I have a lot of misgivings about the free trade agreement, but that's another issue entirely. Let me just say I think our government sold our soul. Whether it's to the devil or not is debatable. For a "free trade" agreement, there's still far too many of the right things that haven't been freed up and too many of the wrong things given away. >And don't get me going on the difficulty of getting reimbursed for >legitimate charges, which, in my experience, can take up to 11 months. That is a universal problem with any insurance company. They're more than happy to take your money and remind you if you owe them, but it's an entirely different thing altogether when you ask them for some back. There's too much fine print and too many escape clauses. The escape clause I hate the most is "Act of God". Has an insurance company got a right to declare something is an act of God? That should at least be left to the clergy. Should it even apply if you're an athiest? 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