RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #1905

RDT Right Now #1905

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 03:18:02 -0700
Subject: RDT Right Now #1905
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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to: <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the subject and body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 04 : Issue #1905 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o give me more hallway [ John Bragazzi <utown@worldnet.att.n ] long time no time [ Succubus Megan <Abulia@imaterrorist ] Email Trouble [ Succubus Megan <Abulia@imaterrorist ] Re: Sunny Florida CD [ Violet <fluffy@annihilist.com> ] Smoke to cry [ Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.de ] Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 05:35:25 -0400 From: John Bragazzi <utown@worldnet.att.net> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: give me more hallway Lavs said: > sheesh, I'm such a slacker. Half of you probably don't > even remember who I am... eh, well... Nope, never heard of you. You seem to like Lord of the Rings, though, so that's good. Bethey said: > reading the liner notes is amusing (e.g. Rickenbacker > 12-string played with a feather). The recording studio can lead to some strange experiments. Years ago, we wanted a real weird, harsh, echoey sound on a lead break I was playing, so we waited until everybody else had left the building for the night, put the mike in the stairwell, and aimed the amp out the door of the studio, where the sound had to go down two short concrete hallways before it reached the mike. It was a great sound. Bethey also said: > If you find someone completely compatible and heavy > chemistry, I'd think you'd do whatever you need to in > order to hold on. Some guys (some people, really) find that kind of thing rather scary, apparently. I know someone who tends to get into relationships with guys who are actually in love with someone else (but the someone else is unavailable for some reason). Brian said > these names all remind me of songs There's a banker at work with the last name Cokeng, and I always have the urge to sing, "She's my Cokeng," but I've resisted so far. As B/4, John -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 22:07:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Succubus Megan <Abulia@imaterrorist.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: long time no time Hola mes amies, It's been awhile (since I could hold my head up high!), but I'm back (from outerspace) and I'm ready to rumble (because mama said knock you out!).... Dear God, song lyrics have taken over my brain! Out! Out, damn you, or I'll get that Q-Tip that Violet was talking about! So! I'm at home! It's summer break and I have no job and I have an appointment to get my license on the 6th, so wish me luck (cuz I'll need it, dammit!). My lips are currently peeling because I'm dehydrated, and I spent the last 2 weeks on two different diets and I'm back where I was originally, despite the mythical 6 pounds I thought I lost, only to discover that HEY, those muthafukkas came back with a vengence the EXACT DAY my 7 day diet was completed. Argh. I suppose I should be grateful that my fat cells love me so much that they never want to leave me, but I'm not. OUT, DAMN YOU! AND TAKE THOSE SONG LYRICS WITH YOU! Let's see, what else is new? The Dresden Dolls! Everyone out there should listen to The Dresden Dolls! They're the most amazing band EVER in the UNIVERSE EVER (or at least, for this month). They're piano and drums, with a female vocalist who can simper, growl, and scream with the best of em, and they're amazing and everyone should buy their CD. Or borrow it from a friend! Or download the songs, listen to them, and THEN buy the CD because a band as cool as the Dresden Dolls needs all the royalties they can get, because their lead singer is obviously in need of some therapy because her songs are THAT PSYCHOTIC and DEMENTED and WONDERFUL! I suggest such songs as "Missed Me", "Girl Anachronism", and "Coin Operated Boy" to give you a taste of what they have to offer. ....Please excuse her for the day. It's just the way the medication makes her.... Hee! Love love love The Dresden Dolls! LOVE! So, now that I've used up my alotted daily amount of exclamation points, I hereby give you a fresh poem for you to read and critique! CRITIQUE! I'm worried that my snake metaphor didn't work! Review! ...Shit. Now I'm seriously overdoing the exclaimation points. :-( Title: Reality Absolute hallowed nothings to repent and serpent hissings to remember every morning waking up lacking loving lithe and limber heart as cold as mid-December trying, desperate, to recall just why I cannot feel at all tongue in ear licking / lacing leaving traces of ideas I remember all too well the way the twisted serpent smelled like soil, feeling freshly squeezed, around my neck the scales scratched and brutal realities made their way inside my pulsing brain, to stay I can't say if there was ever any real thing that was sacred any real thing that was holy hallowed, hailed as enchanted Was there ever magic here? and why do people fear the dark if nothing monstrous there resides? (as empty as my own insides) just snap the crystal rosary and tear the sacred paintings down there's nothing there there's nothing there there's nothing there there's nothing there besides dim memories of a hiss whispered in a hollow ear and I never thought I'd miss the terror of nightmares ghouls and ghosts ....It's the fear I miss the most. Because fear signifies belief Sometimes I think, with relief that maybe I'll get over this but then I hear a subtle hiss that tells me everything I see is exactly what it is: There are no secrets left to find The power of the human mind is the only mystery that really has been left intact Emphasized to indicate that all reality is exact There's nothing left to find but fact Still, today, I try to dream and remember how it was: The mummies, wrapped in ancient gauze hiding just beyond my sight the werewolf's howl the vampire's bite the monsters bumping in the night I try to dream of something more than this world, brightly lit where what you see is what you get and despite the science shit, I try and dream of something more But with the whisper of a snake I find myself all too awake. How Now, Brown Cow? Megan Christine Auffart *************************************** "I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul." -Calvin and Hobbes *************************************** http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/abulia/ _____________________________________________________________ Sign up for FREE insane email from tshirthell.com's E-Mail Hell at http://www.tshirthell.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 22:09:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Succubus Megan <Abulia@imaterrorist.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Email Trouble Oh! And my current free email provider sucks! It sucks ass! It sucks worse than the suckiest thing that sucks in all of Suckonia! So, does anyone know any GOOD free email providers? You know, cool ones? Ones that DON'T download viruses onto your computer every 5 seconds? Thanks! How Now, Brown Cow? Megan Christine Auffart *************************************** "I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul." -Calvin and Hobbes *************************************** http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/abulia/ _____________________________________________________________ Sign up for FREE insane email from tshirthell.com's E-Mail Hell at http://www.tshirthell.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 16:57:44 -0700 From: Violet <fluffy@annihilist.com> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Re: Sunny Florida CD John wrote: >Ruby Through the Looking Glass is very good. I like the way the acoustic >guitar and piano go together, and the lyrics are really good. I can >actually figure out what they're about! > >(well, except for that "doesn't every boy smoke to cry?" part. Any >thoughts on that? I'm thinking that it's just there because it >sounded good, or because she realized that the rest of the song was >too easy to figure out) That line bugs the hell out of me. I take it to mean one of three things: 1) when you smoke, if smoke gets in your eyes it makes them water like crazy, so if a guy felt like crying but didn't want to because of the "macho" thing, he could have a cigarette and then "Oh gosh, my eyes are tearing up from the smoke" would be a convenient excuse, 2) it could be about smoking pot, which makes a lot of people really emotional and being high could be an excuse for a guy to let loose and cry in a somewhat safe "I'm-not-fully-in-control-of-myself-right- now-and-therefore-cannot-be-held-responsible-if-tears-accidentally- squirt-out-of-my-eyes" way, or 3) since it's not socially acceptable for guys to cry, they come up with other outlets to release their emotions and smoking is one of them. (I don't agree, I personally would have used drinking instead of smoking, but hey, it's not my song.) So those are my thoughts. And I still really hate that line. Violet xoxox -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 23:45:30 -0700 From: Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.devin.com> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Smoke to cry John B. said that one of my favorite new Tori lines, "doesn't every boy smoke to cry?", doesn't make sense. :P I latched onto this line the first time I heard it (at Violet's, as it happens). For girls and women, crying is an okay and accepted thing, but for boys and men, it's really not. Men have to find socially acceptable ways of expressing their sorrow and getting a little space, and I think Tori's suggesting that the ritual of having a cigarette gives them the space and time to do that. Whether or not she's right is another matter, but that's how I interpret the line. 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