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Date:
Thu, 7 Oct 2004 14:30:52 -0700
Subject:
RDT Right Now #1921
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Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 04 : Issue #1921
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Tori Amos, "Thoughts"
In this issue:
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neat idea [ Roxanne Rieske <rokzane@comcast.net ]
RDT Right Now #1914 [ Simon Booth <simonbooth@mac.com> ]
Bushwhacking penguin interceptors! [ "Mark L. Alexander" <alexander750@e ]
YARRRR!! [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ]
Re: RDT Right Now #1920 [ PersephonesReign@aol.com ]
Re: Pure randomness..... Almost no p [ Teunis Peters <winterlion@greycloak ]
phoneys [ Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net. ]
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:21:11 -0600
From: Roxanne Rieske <rokzane@comcast.net>
To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: neat idea
I was cruising around the site for Righteous Babe Records and found out
that Ani has begun releasing her own official bootlegs for 10 bucks a
disc. Damn me if that's not a brilliant idea. Tori needs to be doing
this. Course it helps when you OWN your record label...
--
Roxanne Rieske (Rokzane)
rokzane@comcast.net
www.rokzane.bravejournal.com
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"and we hold these truths to be self evident:
#1 george w. bush is not president
#2 america is not a true democracy
#3 the media is not fooling me"
--Ani Difranco "Self-Evident"
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"we're all working together now to make our lives mercifully brief
and school kids keep trying to teach us what guns are all about
confuse liberty with weaponry and watch your kids act it out...
...and if I hear one more time about a fools right to his tools of rage
I'm gonna take all my friends and move to Canada and we're gonna die of
old age"
--Ani Difranco "To the Teeth"
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:23:50 -0500
From: Simon Booth <simonbooth@mac.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: RDT Right Now #1914
me again!
>
from brian:
> Simon pondered in digest 1913:
>> And for all the stink about Iraqi WMDs, I'm truly amazed that there's
>> no uproar about the very blatant WMD projects being worked on openly
>> by
>> the Iranians and the North Koreans.
>
> It's not a case of "no uproar", as it creates enough disturbance in the
> region on its own. I know I said this a long time ago, probably even
> before
> the war on Iraq. The reason the U.S. doesn't go after these countries
> is
> they can hurt back bad.
Makes sense, but it ends up making the war with Iraq look like a
diversion to avoid having to deal with the real threats.
> They haven't been pounded into the stone age by a
> previous war and 10 years of sanctions. Of the two, North Korea is the
> biggest risk to world peace as their leadership is insane.
Kim Jong-Il is more insane than his father. The concept of nuclear
deterrence is lost on despots.
>
>> like the press in a perverse way is having way
>> too much fun covering war and destruction- what happens when something
>> big happens that shows humanity at its best takes place?
>
> If you're lucky, it gets a 30 second grab at the end of the news. You
> can't
> sell copy on good news.
>
The local news here is notorious for making any amount of bad weather
sound like the coming apocalypse.
>
riaa:
> But
> when does amateur piracy in the form of file sharing become worth
> prosecuting? I'm sure the record companies have worked it out. But it
> shouldn't matter if it's one track, 100 albums or 1000 albums, the law
> is
> the same.
Perhaps it's more about how the industry has handled things. The RIAA
didn't seem to do much when Napster and other file-sharing systems came
along about 5 years ago, and the attempts at copy-protection on audio
CDs has so far been half-assed at best. I recall Bethany posting
something about this back in 2001 around the time SLG came out-
basically getting customer complaints at a Border's store she worked at
about "defective CDs" when it turned out that it was customers getting
a copy-protected disc that was *really* inconsistent about where it
could be played- people bought some discs and played them on the drive
home on their car stereos and they sounded fine, only to play them
later on their home stereo or their computer CD drive and have them
skip or lock up the player- or else the disc is only playable on one CD
player out of the many someone might actually attempt to play the disc
on.
Reminds me of the similarly half-assed copy-guard on VHS cassette
copies of movies. Great to thwart the bootleggers, but I have numerous
experiences over the years of brought home a rented tape only to find
that it's unwatchable because the copy-guard blurs and garbles the
picture when you're just playing the tape straight from one VCR to the
TV.
Perhaps I'm missing something technical here, but I was always thinking
that digital technology made it possible to have an anti-piracy system
in place that didn't ruin the listening experience. I've never heard
of DVDs giving people the same problems.
I guess with anything it's always going to be an on-going race between
the industry implementing anti-piracy measures and the pirates and
hackers countering it.
> Of all the file sharing pirates I've read about that have been
> prosecuted, they've all had extraordinary amounts of material.
>
I guess it's more of a matter of the smaller-scale pirates getting lots
of publicity because it looks like only the smaller ones are targeted.
One story that was going around made it sound like kids who downloaded
a few songs were getting treated the same as the large-scale pirates.
Of course, there have been many examples of people who have been
downloading music illegally since Napster started and are very smug
about the how and why of it.
The usual justification is that since CDs cost so much that it's ok to
pirate music. I totally agree that the prices are too high but it's
like the assinine logic of trying to say a burglar was right in robbing
someone because the victim has better things than everyone else.
Same thing with software: Yeah, it pisses me off that Photoshop and
Illustrator are so damned expensive, but I still refuse to go the
bootleg route. I'd love to have the software on my iMac at home, at
least to practice graphics work outside of the classes I'm taking, but
I've found out that the software is also available under a student
discount. And yet I still have classmates telling me how to get a
pirate copy!
The list is Mother, the list is Father
Simon
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Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:54:27 -0400
From: "Mark L. Alexander" <alexander750@earthlink.net>
To: "that redhead with the piano" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: Bushwhacking penguin interceptors!
İİİİİİİİI had sent an earlier message about the Interceptor car, but it was
bounced
because it had too much quoting, so here I go...I understood the Interceptor
was a British car, a Jensen to be exact. This was produced between 1965 and
1976, and had a Chrysler V8 (a 383 Hemi early on, later a 440 Hemi Six Pack).
IIRC it was also the first production model with optional AWD, years before
Audi and Subaru went on to dominate that market. You can find out more about
the Jensen Interceptor here:
İİİİİİİİhttp://www.british-steel.org/brochure/int6676.htm
This site has several photos, mostly brochure scans (you'll want broadband).
İİİİİİİİOf course the car in _Mad Max_ may not have been a production model; I
recall
cars in _Romeo and Juliet_ with names like "Executioner" and such, which were
clearly one-off customs.
İİİİİİİİNow then...Finally, FINALLY there's a Linux distro out there that's
ready for
prime time, and I also now have a PC able to run it, an IBM Pentium III/550
which, I'm guessing, was once government issue, and which can--almost--keep
up with my Mac, an aging Gossamer tower stuffed full of RAM and a G4 upgrade
and a used Radeon and USB and FireWire and a CD burner, and which now easily
handles DTV recording and is even a fair-to-middling game box. Just as the
Mac dual-boots Classic and OS X, this PC dual-boots Windows 98se and Linux,
Mandrake 10.1 to be exact. I'm using Kontact to write this message.
İİİİİİİİWhile Mandrake had its share of installation glitches (most notably
getting
the IBM's non-SoundBlaster audio to work, and keeping the network up until
it, and the firewall, could be properly configured), they were no more
daunting than those I typically encounter with a Windows install--or with a
Mac OS X or Classic install, for that matter. (Windows has had its share of
audio issues on this box too; earlier today I was wrestling the dreaded Blue
Screen of Death trying to update the sound driver.) Once up and running, I
was able to get going with Konqueror, OpenOffice, and all the other stuff
supplied with the installation disks. And KDE 3.2 now looks better than XP,
and almost as good as Aqua; 98se looks crude and toylike by comparison.
İİİİİİİİI even got the new SETI@home (the BOINC version) to work, something I
still
haven't done on the Mac.
İİİİİİİİLastly, the election here. At this point I really don't care who beats
Bush,
just so long as it's somebody, and the fact the most likely Bushwhacker is
Kerry is secondary. Of course Kerry is a better choice than Bush (and Dean or
Kucinich or Clark would have been better still, but such never came to pass);
Linus Torvalds would be a better choice than Bush. (And he's honest about
desiring global domination.) Brian Cooper would be better than Bush. My cat
(or cats--imagine a Caffeine/Cappuccino ticket!) would be better than Bush. A
stoned frog would be better than Bush.
İİİİİİİİI'll spare you the statistics on Iraq, or whether going to war on
false
pretexts is more of an impeachable offense than perjury concerning a
semen-stained dress. (Remember Nixon in Cambodia?) Far from us "cleaning up
our mess," as I once put it, Iraq is in serious danger of becoming a
political toxic waste dump a la Somalia. Or Afghanistan.
İİİİİİİİI'll not mention the fact that Osama's still out there, regrouping and
rebuilding, and the ghost of the Taliban is stirring.
İİİİİİİİI won't say anything about the economy, or voting 'irregularities,'
global
warming, nuclear proliferation, treaties broken, the Orwellian outrages
perpetrated both here and elsewhere in the name of counterterrorism, the
withering of our media, the widening income gap, etc. etc. etc. etc., because
I assume you know all this stuff already.
İİİİİİİİAnd I really don't care whether Nader runs again or not; he's become
something of a bad joke. Perhaps Perot's 'giant sucking sound' was prophetic.
İİİİİİİİNever mind Vietnam (The Sequel). Just throw the usurper out.
İİİİİİİİEstraven.
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Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 12:49:25 -0400
From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: YARRRR!!
OH dear. I'm 23 years old today....
.... damn, I feel old.
anyway, on with the replies. WOO!!
the ever so wonderful Coops said of my niece and her due-to-arrive-in-May
sibling: "Let me get this straight. If you're niece is going to be a
sister, then she'd have to be adopted into your family. But if your niece
is going to be a boy, boyish girl or a boy which is due in May, then your
niece is either a niece or a nephew which probably hasn't been determined
yet. It's either that or you're experimenting in human cloning, or maybe
even you're completely insane. I'm so confused."
WELL, Brian.. I'm just plain crazy. :) but yeah. my niece is
going to have a little brother or little sister come May. I honestly
think it's gonna be a little brother. YAY and stuff.
Coops on censorship: "If it's just a few naughty words or slightly taboo
subjects, I certainly want to be able to make the choice for myself as a
consumer, or on behalf of dependants if I had any. However if it came
down to child pornography, snuff movies or even instructions on how to
make a bomb, I'd prefer to have that decision taken away from me ..."
that certainly makes a lot of sense. with censorship, I'm most
adamant about books and music.. and what you can say on TV.. ya know..
the artistic stuff. the line gets a bit blurred for me with stuff like
bombs and snuff films and etc tho.. someone could always try to say "oh
but I call this snuff/child porno film a piece of art.. why do you oppose
it, huh??" to try to make me backtrack on what I said, but... whatever. I
figure as long as you're not breaking a law that involves physically
harming someone--or the potential to be doing so (like how-to manuals for
bombs), it should be left alone to run FREELY in the woods! naked, even!
John B: "Some things are not for children. but it is much better to risk
children seeing a few things not designed for them (as most kids do, no
matter what their parents intend) than to cut off the free flow of ideas
and artistic expression for the whole society (or at least as free as it
is, which is pretty limited anyway)."
okay.. cuz I cut it out of my reply.. I wanna know, John.. WHY
were "Ulysses" and "Naked Lunch" banned?? I mean seriously, what the
fuck!?
there's a webpage called "The Best Page In The Universe". at
first glance, you'd probably think it was just some stupid little page
for some loser to rant and rave at.. but actually, a lot of people
consider it to be like a political satire-type of page.. I'm not quite
sure how to put it.. but anyway--I find it to be a very intelligent page.
and it is INCREDIBLY popular, too, egad.
getting to the point: some time ago, a woman started a petition
to take that webpage down.. and the reason was "we must protect our
children from pages like this!" so I signed her petition and said "I am
not supporting your cause, as you promote censorship and I am against
it".. that among the thousands of "MADDOX PWNS J00!" type of immature
signatures.. (about 200 of them were intelligent and well-thought-out
signatures opposing the cause.) all of them basically saying that this
lady had no right to try to shut the site down simply because she didn't
want her 14 year old son looking at the material. (net nanny, anyone??)
MOOOOOOVING on. moo... baa... HOORAY FOR LIVESTOCK!
so yeah! it's my birthday today and I'm gonna go celebrate it
with a few of my friends. YAY! ... pictures will be taken!
-- Cyndi
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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 16:41:33 -0400
From: PersephonesReign@aol.com
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org (RDT Right Now)
Subject: Re: RDT Right Now #1920
Brian Cooper wrote:
>Greetings Carrie. Hope you don't mind a bit of pig's blood around here.
>(I'm sure everyone makes some comment about your name.) You're not a
>redhead by any chance? Ahem. Anyway... drug ads. Here in Australia the
>biggest disclaimer you'll get is "If problems persist, see your doctor."
>You'll generally also find a pamphlet with unusual medications listing all
>the side effects. The fact we don't have major disclaimers in ads suggests
>lawyers haven't had their way here yet and I hope it stays that way.
>Getting down to rule of thumb again, if the benefits outweigh the side
>effects, then it's probably worth taking. I say that also as someone who is
>very sensitive to a lot of medications.
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Thank you for the welcome brian,
yes I have had quite a few references to the pig's blood, and to being
psychotic in general, lol- but, it's all good. I was actually named after
my uncle Gary , as Carrie- no i'm not a red head either, i do have red
streaks tho, well not red red, but like burgundy red; a much better shade
I'd say :)
Toodles for now
-Carrie.
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Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 20:58:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Teunis Peters <winterlion@greycloaklabs.ca>
To: Royal Dapper Terrific Rice Noodles <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: Re: Pure randomness..... Almost no politics in this message.
In this light of elections /aside: ours was not so long ago. The idiots
got back in. So did the other idiots. And the other ones too. We've got
a lot of parties of idiots. I guess the only light here is it looks like
Bloc Quebequois may be dying out. From ennui actually. Oh, and comedy
shows are still the best place for politicians... and they do so enjoy it
here. I wonder how many places in the world involve politicians actively
involved in parodies of themselves? Ahh. I like Canada sometimes...
Anyways.. let's see. Life big full of changes. Getting tired of it.
Want to just -stay- in one place a while, live and get things together. I
may or may not be moving back north in Dismember. Don't know. Need to
find work first - current job -may- be gone by then. Of course it has
been rough for the last year now. Don't wanna, but c'est la vie.
Now for the GOOD news.... other than I'm suffering from Tori-withdrawal
that could be solved by finding where I hid my CD collection....
Got a violin now and have been fiddling around with it. VERY happy. My
father MADE it!!! He makes violins, cellos, violas, harps and the like
now... Interesting change from being a (private) schoolteacher.
Ohh the -sound- is soo beautiful. VERY very beautiful. *happy sigh*
Got a 15' sailboat too. Needs repainting but otherwise nice. About 400
pounds in weight though so a little hard to carry around... My father
decided sailing around the world in it was a little beyond him so he GAVE
it to me.
I am deliberately not thinking of why he's doing this. I'm telling
everyone about his business though 'cause it's so fun. Am veryvery proud
of him.
My little bro's back in town from stateside... he's still getting things
together too and has interesting Plans.... (a non-wheat bakery? cool!)
I need more /fixed/ things in life. I'm in a nice house, a nice area of
town, and a lot of other nice things. But can't afford to stay past the
roomies moving back to Tazzie (Tasmania). Ah well. I'll figure it out
:)
I'm really enjoying jamming with coworkers and friends once a week. And
one of my boss's bands meets once/month (yesterday) and holds open jam
sessions. A BLAST!!!! (I learned how to hold my violin correctly *g*)
All kinds of music... the wildest (for me) was Amazing Grace done
upbeat-style chearful and positive and fast. A lot of the other music
- anything from rock to blues, country, jazz, folk. Lots of folk. And
other songs turned into folk such as some Rolling Stones songs. About
12-15 musicians on various instruments.. let's see if I can remember...
Folk Heros (the band): Oliver on Melodian (smaller relative of accordian)
and drums (my boss). Julie on guitar, violin or mandoline (sales/manager
at work). Her husband on bass guitar (works nearby). Their fiddle player
wasn't there this time... ah well. let's see who else.. Acadian fiddle
player (and teacher :), several guitar players (including a lady who'd
never played in public before and was learning :), an eastern Canadian
accordian player, an incredible blues/soul singer who also played penny
whistle or guitar, a loonie singer (fond of Cthuhlhu-oriented gospel
pieces amongst other things) on drum [and a good friend I think], an older
lady who showed up off the street last month who's never sung in public
or played or anything and sounds GOOD. A lady on spoons. A guy who sings
silly songs. Actually lots of silly people. Various others dropped in
at various times too. It was a blast.
I mostly played fiddle that night with only a little flute (say, for
California Dreaming).
So hope y'all are jammin', playin' or messing about with something fun and
heart-filled.
G'day, eh? :)
- Winterlion the oddly fuzzy.
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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:21:38 +1000
From: Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net.au>
To: Really Deep Thrusts Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: phoneys
First up, before I forget once again, someone out there in Toriland has a
severe case of the Netsky.D worm/virus. I've been receiving bounced viruses
for months from a Toriphile that has been frequenting a site called
jobshunter.com among others. Clean it up already, it's not as if it's new.
You know what I hate? I hate it when my lawn is perfectly manicured and a
dog just comes along and dumps on it. What is it about dogs and fresh
grass? I'm sure the dog's owners wouldn't appreciate me doing the same in
return.
Anyway, I've got a couple of weeks off work to chill out and frustrate
myself over new flooring. I've already ripped up half the carpet which is
gratifying in itself as it's cheap and ugly.
From digest 1920, here's Johnny...
>But... Can someone please tell me something good about John Kerry?
>Anything at all? Other than "He's not George Bush"?
His hair is only slightly less ridiculous than Donald Trump's? Have they
got the same stylist or what? One thing I can say about politics in the US
and Australia is that both countries are more polarised than at any time I
can recall. While we've got a somewhat credible opposition leader here in
Mark Latham, both major parties suffer a great deal of indifference from
the electorate. It's almost impossible to differentiate the two, especially
when it comes to pork-barreling. As for what comes out of that barrel of
laughs, I'm never on the receiving end. We have also been suffering the
negative American style campaigns for the last two elections and as much as
we hate them, they're effective in that people remember them.
With our electoral system, you can not only who you want, but also who
you'd prefer to get elected when your first choice fails. It can be an
effective means of telling the major parties what you think of them while
still voting one of them in. Above all, you can pick who comes last. I'd so
love to see your electoral system give up the first-past-the-post, just so
you can register your disgust. The only thing that is really of concern is
that a vote for Ralph Nader is a vote for George W. by proxy. It doesn't
matter how good his policies may or may not be, there's just no room to
vote for him. Clinton certainly had a lot to thank Ross Perot for.
>Oh, BTW, did you know that if you don't vote in Australia (from what I've
>been told) you pay a fine? You can go in and vote for no one, leave
>everything blank if you want, but you have to show up.
Funnily I did know that. Compulsory voting can be a two edged sword. You
get all the people that have thought about their vote mixed in with the
ones who only ever vote one way. They're not the problem. Messing up the
ballot paper or not marking it is a wasted vote. You can scrawl obscenities
all over it if you wish but nobody will care. You get people who have no
idea and just pick their favourite number, colour, position on the paper or
whatever takes their fancy. I'd much prefer those people choose to leave
their ballot blank. Statistically, you usually get around 5% of "informal"
votes in every electorate - informal meaning incorrect for the reason of
being blank marked incorrectly with something that shouldn't be there.
At least we've only got days of this shit left to go.
From Dalsh on ticket prices:
>The only way people can fight ticket prices is just by not paying,
>convincing others not to go and writing the tour managers and concert
>promoters that they've gone overboard.
It's a nice thought, but when you live in a country where your favourite
acts are lucky to tour three times in their career, there's nothing to do
but pay up. Note to Tori - a tour would be profitable I assure you, so no
excuses!
John wrote:
>In New York they're talking about putting cell towers in the subways so
>people can get cell reception on the platforms and so on. I hope they
>don't, I'd have to wear my headphones all the time, not just when I feel
>like it.
Welcome to my world. The train last Friday night was a shocker and it was
part of the continuing trend. It's almost got to the point where I can
forget trying to read a book now because of incessant chatter. I read with
glee the other day a story of a woman in Washington DC who was fined for
talking to loud into her phone at a bus stop. the really satisfying point
for me was that she put up a fight and was crash tackled. Oh, how I'd love
to do that. People have no clue as to how much the rest of us don't want to
hear the mundane details of their lives. I'm led to believe there are some
carriages on trains in the UK that actively block phone signals. Gotta move....
Brian
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