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Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 05 : Issue #1963
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Tori Amos, "Thoughts"
In this issue:
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tori in "portland" [ "jessica parsons" <fullblownlife@ho ]
Fw: A Letter to All Who Voted for Ge [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ]
Single ticket needed, 9/17, LA [ erin martin <froufroufoxes@yahoo.co ]
a strange day starts with a boot [ "John Bragazzi" <utown@worldnet.att ]
So this is what I wanna know... [ Roxanne Rieske <rokzane@comcast.net ]
memories and manipulation [ "John Bragazzi" <utown@worldnet.att ]
And the Rains Kept on Falling [ "J. Mathers" <jmathers@westol.com> ]
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Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:34:04 -0700
From: "jessica parsons" <fullblownlife@hotmail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: tori in "portland"
i saw tori last night in what the shirt says portland but is really
washington. 30+ exits into washington do not count as oregon. anyway....it
was really great. i took a fellow jessica and we had a great time. she sang
some cute improvs about oregon and said we're so great she wants to take us
back east. She shocked the fuck out of me with putting the damage on. she
also did icicle (!!!), cloud on my tongue, baker baker, rattlesnakes and
others. it was very great. i feel like it renewed my faith in her. i was
very down about the beekeeper album but once she does the other stuff, it's
great. oh the ditty bops are really funny....very unique. i'm so glad i
went!!! my friend jessica is convinced tori is an elf because of her magical
ears. i cannot believe she's over 40!!! ok. oh and she is playing tonight in
downtown portland.
-jessica
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Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:45:40 -0400
From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com>
To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: Fw: A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore
To All My Fellow Americans Who Voted for George W. Bush:
On this, the fourth anniversary of 9/11, I'm just curious, how does it feel?
How does it feel to know that the man you elected to lead us after we were
attacked went ahead and put a guy in charge of FEMA whose main qualification
was that he ran horse shows?
That's right. Horse shows.
I really want to know -- and I ask you this in all sincerity and with all
due respect -- how do you feel about the utter contempt Mr. Bush has shown
for your safety? C'mon, give me just a moment of honesty. Don't start
ranting on about how this disaster in New Orleans was the fault of one of
the poorest cities in America. Put aside your hatred of Democrats and
liberals and anyone with the last name of Clinton. Just look me in the eye
and tell me our President did the right thing after 9/11 by naming a horse
show runner as the top man to protect us in case of an emergency or
catastrophe.
I want you to put aside your self-affixed label of
Republican/conservative/born-again/capitalist/ditto-head/right-winger and
just talk to me as an American, on the common ground we both call America.
Are we safer now than before 9/11? When you learn that behind the horse show
runner, the #2 and #3 men in charge of emergency preparedness have zero
experience in emergency preparedness, do you think we are safer?
When you look at Michael Chertoff, the head of Homeland Security, a man with
little experience in national security, do you feel secure?
When men who never served in the military and have never seen young men die
in battle send our young people off to war, do you think they know how to
conduct a war? Do they know what it means to have your legs blown off for a
threat that was never there?
Do you really believe that turning over important government services to
private corporations has resulted in better services for the people?
Why do you hate our federal government so much? You have voted for
politicians for the past 25 years whose main goal has been to de-fund the
federal government. Do you think that cutting federal programs like FEMA and
the Army Corps of Engineers has been good or bad for America? GOOD OR BAD?
With the nation's debt at an all-time high, do you think tax cuts for the
rich are still a good idea? Will you give yours back so hundreds of
thousands of homeless in New Orleans can have a home?
Do you believe in Jesus? Really? Didn't he say that we would be judged by
how we treat the least among us? Hurricane Katrina came in and blew off the
facade that we were a nation with liberty and justice for all. The wind
howled and the water rose and what was revealed was that the poor in America
shall be left to suffer and die while the President of the United States
fiddles and tells them to eat cake.
That's not a joke. The day the hurricane hit and the levees broke, Mr. Bush,
John McCain and their rich pals were stuffing themselves with cake. A full
day after the levees broke (the same levees whose repair funding he had
cut), Mr. Bush was playing a guitar some country singer gave him. All this
while New Orleans sank under water.
It would take ANOTHER day before the President would do a flyover in his
jumbo jet, peeking out the widow at the misery 2500 feet below him as he
flew back to his second home in DC. It would then be TWO MORE DAYS before a
trickle of federal aid and troops would arrive. This was no seven minutes in
a sitting trance while children read "My Pet Goat" to him. This was FOUR
DAYS of doing nothing other than saying "Brownie (FEMA director Michael
Brown), you're doing a heck of a job!"
My Republican friends, does it bother you that we are the laughing stock of
the world?
And on this sacred day of remembrance, do you think we honor or shame those
who died on 9/11/01? If we learned nothing and find ourselves today every
bit as vulnerable and unprepared as we were on that bright sunny morning,
then did the 3,000 die in vain?
Our vulnerability is not just about dealing with terrorists or natural
disasters. We are vulnerable and unsafe because we allow one in eight
Americans to live in horrible poverty. We accept an education system where
one in six children never graduate and most of those who do can't string a
coherent sentence together. The middle class can't pay the mortgage or the
hospital bills and 45 million have no health coverage whatsoever.
Are we safe? Do you really feel safe? You can only move so far out and build
so many gated communities before the fruit of what you've sown will be
crashing through your walls and demanding retribution. Do you really want to
wait until that happens? Or is it your hope that if they are left alone long
enough to soil themselves and shoot themselves and drown in the filth that
fills the street that maybe the problem will somehow go away?
I know you know better. You gave the country and the world a man who wasn't
up for the job and all he does is hire people who aren't up for the job. You
did this to us, to the world, to the people of New Orleans. Please fix it.
Bush is yours. And you know, for our peace and safety and security, this has
to be fixed. What do you propose?
I have an idea, and it isn't a horse show.
Yours,
Michael Moore
www.michaelmoore.com
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Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:59:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: erin martin <froufroufoxes@yahoo.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: Single ticket needed, 9/17, LA
Hi everybody:
I'm looking for a single ticket to the 9/17 LA show at
the Greek. I prefer section A and center, as close as
you've got, but let me know if you have any offers.
I'll pay well via check, money order, credit card,
paypal, or cash at the venue.
Thanks!
Erin
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Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:18:22 -0400
From: "John Bragazzi" <utown@worldnet.att.net>
To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: a strange day starts with a boot
So far, the boots are very good.
When Tori first went electric, I know a lot of people
missed the sense of intimacy from the early solo work.
Me, I almost always think people are better with a band,
and Tori was no exception. The first time I saw her,
at Madison Square Garden, with the full band, was great.
More recently, though, I much prefer to hear her solo.
I don't think it's a question of "intimacy," it's more
a musical question. I've become increasingly disillusioned with her
rhythm section. They are very limited (or she
makes them be limited, because that's what she hears in
her head), the end result being that the songs tend to
all sound the same much more than they should , much more
than they do when she's playing solo.
The 4-15-05 boot has some real high points:
Listening to Apollo's Frock, I wondered what Tori was
saying about all this "you've crossed my line" stuff.
But the ending makes it clear, when she says, "for
the last time, you would Officially cross my line."
Clearly, that line will be crossed again and again,
always with threats which are never carried out.
That's a pretty good picture of a lot of situations
in life.
Parasol is very good, I like the contrast between
the piano and the organ. Very clean and simple, and
a good vocal performance.
Operator is good, but the introduction is even better,
both about the tip jar and about her poor brother.
Listening to the recent studio albums, it's too easy
to forget how funny she is. As for Jim Croce, I
always did like him, though his more sentimental
stuff annoyed me (my sister and her husband did their
first dance at their wedding to "Time in a Bottle,"
and my [then] wife and I had to avoid eye contact
with each other to keep from giggling). He was a
good singer and songwriter, though, and (like Tori)
an unexpectedly funny stage performer. I was very
sad when he and his guitarist Maury Muehleisen died
in that plane crash.
The Circle Game is good, but it just reminds me of
what a leap Joni Mitchell made early in her career,
between songs like this (traditional, simple,
wonderfully melodic but lyrically predictable) to
the music of Court & Spark, Hissing of Summer Lawns
and Hejira. I'd love to hear Tori tackle some of
those songs (which are a lot of the basis of her
own music, of course).
Cars and Guitars is good, a good performance of
a good song, but the human beat-box stuff gets
annoying.
Marianne is wonderful, always. Probably still my
all-time favorite Tori song.
I like Barons of Suburbia, but the Beekeeper is
waaaaaaay too long (or, if it's going to be that
long, something should happen at some point).
Or maybe something does happen at the end, I confess
that I've never made it that far.
Besides, there's Honey right after it, calling,
"hey, listen to me instead! I'm much more fun!"
Which it is.
Sweet the Sting is better than the one on the
other boot, since she indulges in less of the
-I-I-I-I-ing, which is annoying. There's still
a bit too much, but not as much as the 4-25
version.
The 4-25-05 boot has its high points as well,
some of which are the same as the earlier one
(Parasol, Barons of Suburbia).
The intro to Livin' on a Prayer is funny, but
the song itself is not that great (it never was,
after all). All Through the Night is very good,
though. When she interrupts herself in the
middle and then resumes, bearing down much harder,
it's a reminder of how powerful she can be when
she allows herself to wander away from the absolute
middle of the road a little bit.
Take to the Sky is great, though I've listened
to the Sunny Florida version so much that now I
expect Muhammad My Friend to pop in the middle,
and I'm disappointed when it doesn't.
The Beekeeper still defeats me. Can't get all
the way through it. Plus, there's Tear in Your
Hand right after it, luring me to hit the skip
button. Hanging out with Neil & Morpheus &
Delirium is more fun than listening to 20
minutes of the Beekeeper (or so it seems).
(BTW, there is a comic book version of Neverwhere
coming out, not written by Neil, but still fun so far.)
What does everybody else think?
As B/4,
John
__________________________________
http://waldo.u-town.com
(a writing blog:
where you can meet a sane woman
and take a trip through u-town)
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 07:58:48 -0600
From: Roxanne Rieske <rokzane@comcast.net>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: So this is what I wanna know...
I wanna know how people like Matt Page can go to practically EVERY Tori
concert on a tour. Doesn't he/she/they have to work? I don't know how
they can afford to follow her around so much. Granted, I would love to
do that--but yeah, when pigs fly or something :P.
Roxanne
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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 06:45:11 -0400
From: "John Bragazzi" <utown@worldnet.att.net>
To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Cc: "cyndi.crawford@juno.com" <cyndi.crawford@juno.com>
Subject: memories and manipulation
This is a response to something Cyndi put on her LJ, about the
fact that there are 9/11 memorial events every single year,
apparently to continue forever. She asked if it wasn't time (or
when would it be time) to scale this back to once every five or
ten years.
There are two main forces at work here. One is the people who
were directly affected (people who were there, people who lost
loved ones). For them (us) it's not something you "get over,"
but, like any awful experience, you process it and learn to move
forward, though you still feel it. If you don't, or can't,
process it, then hopefully you seek some help in doing so.
The other issue is the regular public hoopla, which has nothing
to do with what anybody suffered or is suffering, it's a
political and media creation being used to justify things which
are being done which in fact have nothing to do with 9/11. For
this reason, it will probably never end, because people have to
be reminded every year of why we're dropping bombs and searching
bags and diverting money from maintaining levees. It always
takes a lot more reminders when something isn't actually true.
For people who were directly affected and feel that they
need constant public events to memorialize those who were lost, I
would only say that I was very moved and affected when my father
died unexpectedly one afternoon 16 years ago. My mother and I
held a viewing and a funeral, and then, several months later, a
big party in his memory.
We don't continue to hold funerals or memorials every year.
Every year, on or around his birthday, my mother and I drink a
toast to his memory. We reflect on his life, and we talk about
the fact that, in general, he would probably be proud of how
she and I have survived without him.
Every year, on 9/11, I remember what happened and I try to do
something a little nice for myself.
Neither of those is a public event, nor should they be, but of
course they are not being used to justify trying to replace other
peoples' governments.
As B/4,
John (who will probably write about the drug thing next)
____________________________
"Memories are meant to fade.
They're designed that way for a reason."
-- Lornette Mason
(which is not to be interpreted as an endorsement of "Intelligent
Design," at least by me)
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Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 11:16:37 -0400
From: "J. Mathers" <jmathers@westol.com>
To: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: And the Rains Kept on Falling
On August 30 I saw Tori perform at the Tower Amphitheater in Cleveland, the
same place I saw her two years. At that time there was a city wide power
failure and you could not drink the water. This time the hurricane moved
north and there were heavy downpours all afternoon and evening. I had
planned on coming from Pittsburgh that day and going home the next day. I
spent 40 years of my life in Cleveland and moved away 24 years ago. My wife
decided to come along and we spent the weekend retracing our lives seeing
people we had not seen in years. We discovered how much these places and
people were still a part of us.
The night before the concert I visited the Barnes and Noble bookstore near
our hotel. Sure enough the girl in the record department was a Toriphile
and we had a long conversation. She was in the process of reading Tori's
book and seemed to know as much about Tori as I did. I mentioned the
concert the next night and she did seem to know anything about it. It was
obvious she wanted to go. Being in a humanitarian mood (or should I say a
toritarian mood) I offered to take her. This took some guts since my wife
was wondering around the store. She said she had to work that night. After
we finished our conversation and was walking away, I looked back at her and
for a moment I saw in her eyes such sadness it almost made you want to cry!
This was my only time I seen Tori on this tour. The tour started way back
when with $250 for front row seats. Tori must of gotten lonely on the stage
and a month later they were giving away free upgrades for these seats. By
this concert half the audience took front row seats by simply walking up to
the front at some mystical part of the show and stood there.
Rain was heavy when I first got to the amphitheater and there at 3:00 PM was
no social gatherings going on. At 6:30 they opened the gates and the rain
let up some. For an hour I was in my glory meeting other fans as I did at
the other 10 concerts I attended. This time it was different. People were
running around in Star Wars costumes and there seemed to be a festive air.
At 7:30 the first band came out and after they finished second band came
out. Both bands were in Star Wars costumes. In previous concerts the
opening band came out and there was about and hour wait before Tori came out
at 9:00 PM. This time there was only a short gap between the bands and
Tori. I had only a short time to talk to the pretty girl sitting next to
me. She was from Wooster, OH. I saw a lot of pretty things in Cleveland
that I wanted to take home with me. The problem is that they have two arms,
legs and long hair. My wife will kill me!
Tori and her daughter were our in quick procession, Happy Birthday was sung,
and Tori was into her concert. There was an definite effort to keep the
sound level at a very enjoyable level, even with the bands performing.
There was no attempt at the 90 db levels of previous concert I been to.
Tori introduced "These Are Some of My Favorite Things" saying it helps her
in those sad moments. During the song, my thoughts were on my wife's
wheelchair in the back of my xB and on my daughter's electric wheelchair, a
product of her 1.5 year stay in the hospital. I broke out into tears. Life
is nor always as you want it. Tori can still tap into my emotions.
Two years ago I got into "Dead Like Me", a two year series on Showtime.
This series was about a group of grim reapers who meet each morning in a
German waffle house and arrange to take the souls of those to die that day.
The "Dead Like Me" fans are about as fanatic as the Tori fans. Tori's "The
Bee Keeper" is right out of that series. This concert was in many ways like
a church service with a church organ, the congregation standing at the right
time. The Bee Keeper was like the processional hymn. For me Bee Keeper was
too real. On our travels though Cleveland we went to my in-laws grave. My
wife pointed out our lots. At 64 you realize life's not infinite. "Do you
know who I am? I am the one who taps you on the shoulder when it is your
time. Don't be afraid, I promise that she will awake tomorrow somewhere..
When I see these at those lots at the cemetery in my mind, I am not afraid.
Tori sang till past 11:PM and then it as over. I did not want it to end and
felt a deep sadness and loneliness as I left the concert. to go on with
life. But the rain kept on falling.
After it as all said and done, I realized that the Tori concerts in my life
are as much a part of me and all those places I visited on my weekend in
Cleveland. Another two years, it will all start up again and a new album, a
new tour, and the cycle of life will repeat itself. I will be there.
Have to end.
Jim Mathers
jmathers@westol.com
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