RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #1981

RDT Right Now #1981

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Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 14:30:49 -0800
Subject: RDT Right Now #1981
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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to: <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the subject and body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 05 : Issue #1981 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o stuff, things, and LONG PANTS! [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ] RE: RDT Right Now #1980 [ "Jody Feldman" <jmfeldman@cox.net> ] Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:07:21 -0500 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: stuff, things, and LONG PANTS! okay, I'm gonna kick this reply off with a little randomness on my part because I haven't done that in a long time. *gasp..* FLAMEEL! okay, I'm done.. actually, no I'm not. I have a DeviantArt account. who here has one too? I like to write stories and stuff, and I finished a brand new one on Friday, and I want people to read it and leave comments on what they think about the story. (in other words, don't just say "it's good" or "it sucks" without telling me in detail WHY it's good or it sucks!) so.. go here to read it and do all that jazzy stuff: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/25752076/ okay, NOW I'm done. on with the replies, yo. fo' shizzle. Tori should say "fo' shizzle" sometime just because she can. Quoth the Roxanne: "Honestly, Cyndi, I don't get what you mean by lack of promotion. I thought TBK was well promoted (at least in my area)." I'll gladly admit that TBK was better promoted than TOAL or any of her Atlantic albums, for sure. hell, even better than SW, and I love that album to pieces. (as I do TBK, but SW was the first album Tori released with me as a new fan and etc.) Atlantic was really quite shitty to her, as we all know, and Sony, yes, is better, but still, I think they could be doing a little more for her--now, I don't know what Tori's opinion is with music videos and things like that these days, but the way I feel about that is.. a music video from her (the Hey Jupiter one to be precise) is what got me hooked onto her. How's she going to get the next generation interested in her if she's making funky little videos that look and sound good but don't really grab the viewer and keep them interested and curious like they did me? I dunno. I'm just, lately, VERY into the idea of musicians going the "indie artist" route, taking it directly to the fans, having the fans be their "record label" as well as their fans at the same time, because it'd cut the middlemen (the labels) out and everyone would benefit from the deal more, and the big money hungry corporations would have less ground to stand on than they already do. I think it'd be awesome if we could do like Tori once said in that MSN interview she did about two years ago--where she said something to the effect of "if it were a bartering system.. 'I downloaded your album, so here, have a pie!' then it might work." for example--at a meet and greet, I could slip her ten bucks for downloading her album and she'd get more money from people doing that than she does now, and she sells millions of records and has some million dollars in the bank as it is. meanwhile, Sony's trying their best to backpedal out of the mess that they created with that spyware "hey look, I ripped music to my computer, so all you viruses, feel free to come and wreak havoc!" crap.. yeah, way to treat your customers, boys.. bra-VO. *golf clap* they're alienating their customers--that's how I feel about it, at least. things like that, things like the way record labels in general treat their employees (the artists) and customers (the fans).. they just make me irate, which is why I've come in swinging and screaming about "let's get Tori off of Sony/Epic! YARRR!" I just think she might benefit more if she were able to cut the record label out and have it be a little more directly involved between TORI.. and the FANS, like her concerts are. moving on.. Lori Ann emailed us to announce her return and to tell us what she's been up to lately. welcome back to the list. :) it's always good to see someone come back and say something. heaven knows I don't do it enough, do I? and with that, the email was done. and stuff. fo' shizzle. Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford "I know we're dying / and there's no sign of a parachute / we scream in cathedrals / why can't it be beautiful / why does there gotta be a sacrifice?" -- Tori Amos -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:48:23 -0800 From: "Jody Feldman" <jmfeldman@cox.net> To: "'RDT Right Now'" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: RE: RDT Right Now #1980 unsubscribe -----Original Message----- From: RDT Right Now [mailto:rdtrn@torithoughts.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 4:27 PM To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: RDT Right Now #1980 Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to: <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the subject and body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 05 : Issue #1980 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o Tori Promotion [ Roxanne Rieske <rokzane@comcast.net ] cars and guitars single review [ wojizzle forizzle <woj@smoe.org> ] hello there [ "Lori Ann Near" <loria@walkunafraid ] Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 02:31:00 -0700 From: Roxanne Rieske <rokzane@comcast.net> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Tori Promotion Honestly, Cyndi, I don't get what you mean by lack of promotion. I thought TBK was well promoted (at least in my area). I saw magazine and newspaper ads for the album, commercials for the Summer of Sin Tour; ads for the book were everwhere, and our local adult alternative station, KBCO, plays her music regularly, and on every tour she's a guest in their Studio C. So she doesn't dominate the video world, big deal. Nobody can have it all. I don't much care if she makes videos or not, because I'm not at all a fan of either MTV or VH1, and I don't watch either one. Considering she tours heavily and sells out nearly all of her shows; I'd say she's doing pretty well. She makes her money by touring and merchandise sales. Sony gets nearly all of the profit from album sales--that's true with every record company and every artist. She's doing what she thinks she needs to do to be sucessful, and she is sucessful. How could anybody doubt that? Seven years ago, nobody I knew, knew who she was, now I hardly ever run across someone who hasn't at least heard some of her songs on the radio. Does it get any better than that? Roxanne -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 20:17:58 -0500 From: wojizzle forizzle <woj@smoe.org> To: torinews@smoe.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>, rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: cars and guitars single review one assumes this is a promotional cd rather than a proper cd single release. scroll down a bit for the review.... http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051127/music_nm/review_music_singles_dc_1 ARTIST: TORI AMOS SINGLE: CARS AND GUITARS "Cars and Guitars" is the new offering from Tori Amos' latest album, "The Beekeeper." As an artist very much in control of her sound, it is a credit to her production skills that she has created a pop-leaning song while maintaining her alternative roots. The lighthearted nature of "Cars and Guitars" is conveyed with skipping drums, a touch of piano and chants of "cha ch ch cha," wrapped in a blithe melody. Since her lyrics always have layered meanings, no clear interpretation of the song is apparent: Lines like "If I choke boy you start me up again/Restring my wires y'know/This gear box can make the shift polish my rims" are full of possibilities. But the words do relay a sense of a relationship lost, adding some bitter to the music's sweetness. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 07:54:42 -0500 (EST) From: "Lori Ann Near" <loria@walkunafraid.net> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: hello there Hello everyone. Some of you may know me, some may not. I decided to resubscribe after skipping through the archives and realising that I was no longer really subscribed because while my old email may still be receiving the digests, I can no longer access my old email. So here I am again. 2005 was a busy year. I was supposed to move to Costa Rica this year, and instead lost a love. It's tough being dumped right before you pick up everything for someone, and I am still spending time getting over it. Both my cats suffered a lot of health issues this past year, and I'm still dealing with that as well. Things are not all bad. Good things in brief: I went to New York City to see an old RDTRN'er who was gracious and opened his apartment for me to crash in. *cheers to the Wild one*. I saw Tori twice, both with good people. I enjoyed the shows. Am lukewarm on the Beekeeper. Decent stuff on it, but too much 'filler'. Too long. Went to Minneapolis and Chicago to see my second favourite band of all time, Idlewild, rip through two sets of blistering awesome songs. Hung out with the band, flirted with bass player. Inara George opened. She's brilliant, and you should check her out. She's the daughter of Little Feat guitarist Lowell George. Saw Margaret Cho in Indianapolis. Drank many delicious martinis, fabulous scotch and red wine. Turned 32. Found my first grey hair, but after a wee time of freaking out became really quite ok with it. How are you? ~loria~ 'say "keep within the boundaries if you want to play." say "contradiction only makes it harder." how can I be what I want to be? when all I want to do is strip away these stilled constraints and crush this charade shred this sad masquerade I dont need no persuading I'll trip, fall, pick myself up and walk unafraid I'll be clumsy instead hold my love me or leave me high. walk unafraid I'll be clumsy instead hold my love me or leave me high.' - JMS, R.E.M. o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o *** Subliminal Day Off digest *** To POST messages to this list: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Can't figure out how to SUB, UNSUB, or CHANGE ADDRESSES? Send a message to <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "help" as the subject. Digest PROBLEMS or QUESTIONS? Contact: <admin@torithoughts.org> Want your BIRTHDAY announced on RDTRN in 2005? 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