RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #2005

RDT Right Now #2005

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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 16:32:31 -0700
Subject: RDT Right Now #2005
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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to: <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the subject and body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 06 : Issue #2006 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o ADMIN: belatedness [ admin@torithoughts.org ] Beekeeper [ "Williams Massage" <bosendorfer1@ne ] la la la [ "Megan Auffart" <mcauffart@blazemai ] replies [ Simon Booth <phoenyxx98@yahoo.com> ] Click Click Delete [ Mark Alexander <alexander750@earthl ] possible tori rarties release! [ wojbearpig <woj@smoe.org> ] tori to start recording next record [ wojbearpig <woj@smoe.org> ] egg donation [ "jessica zuckerman" <fullblownlife@ ] Little Blue World Issue Announcement [ "Angela Reid" <angela.reid@gmail.co ] details about the rarities box set! [ wojbearpig <woj@smoe.org> ] piano [ "jessica zuckerman" <fullblownlife@ ] Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 15:30:28 -0700 From: admin@torithoughts.org Subject: ADMIN: belatedness I got completely swept up working on Undented and fell behind on sending digests out. My deepest apologies. I also missed out on mentioning RDT's 14th anniversary in early May. Foo! RDTRN has been automated now, so digests will magically go out on their own once a day [when there are posts]. And here is a nice long ketchup digest to keep you warm in the meantime. Again, I'm so sorry for falling short on this. Mea culpa. Violet xoxox -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 12:05:13 GMT From: "Williams Massage" <bosendorfer1@netzero.net> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Beekeeper I really like beekeeper I think it shows how much Tori has grown from a = young woman with an angry snatch(sorry had to)to a mom and being kind of= contented although we or at least i haven't heard any B sides so I don'= t know. Maybe there is still alot of anger/pain seething beneath her cal= m demeanor. If I had nearly lost my mom then lost my brother I'd be a pi= ssed off wreck yet she puts out an album. I absolutely adore Gen Joy' an= d Orange knickers, sometimes a flash of unmentionables is much more prov= acative than the whole enchalada on the plate. als I think she is commen= ting on the power of sex and how some women (sorry) use it as an ace in = the hole to get what they want. Simon Simon Simon talk to us its ok to bitch rant and rave here we are= all friends. Brought together by the power of the ONE. = Teunis are you out there if you are how you doin'. = Wolves and Much Love Keith LMT -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 22:11:23 -0700 From: "Megan Auffart" <mcauffart@blazemail.com> To: <RDTRN@torithoughts.org> Subject: la la la Hola mes amies! Cyndi wrote: " so.. the Dent has retired, Undented has started, Tori's working on a new album (last I heard anyway) and RDTRN is way too quiet!" Wait. Wait! Tori's doing a new album? I thought she was pretty much retired by now, what with the kid and all? This information is both awesome and kinda daunting at the same time. I mean, all one has to do is to look at past albums (or, in the case of SW or TB, *parts* of her past albums) and see that she has major talent in the art of composing her songs. concerning the first five albums, each one I consider brilliant and original. Even if I didn't like them at first (like Choirgirl), after a few listens I grew to love the entire album. Thus, the thought of her creating a new album is awesome. However, with the exception of a few songs apiece, Scarlett's Walk and The Beekeeper have utterly sucked, in my opinion. SW especially was entirely monotonous, with the same damn sound for EVERY SINGLE SONG except for like, three of them. It was a horrible album, no matter how inspired she was by 9/11 and no matter how awesome the "road map" album concept was. The Beekeeper does get props from me for at least making an effort to throw SOME diversity into the lineup, but for the most part it is an unlistenable album. About 6 songs on there are decent, but I couldn't even name half of them now because I haven't listened to the album enough to remember their titles. Again, like with SW, Tori took an awesome approach with the garden theme. The album art was wonderful, the packet of seeds was an awesome addition (I just planted them a few weeks ago and most of the flowers are coming up!!! YAY!), but the music? Bland bland bland bland dry toast and boiled water bland. So! Tori? I have a message for you. If you're gonna make a new album, you need to do one thing before you start recording the songs; find your passion. Because the way you were complacently croaning out lyrics to your two previous albums shows me, at least, that if you don't feel that burning excitement when you're performing the piece, then your fans won't feel ANYTHING when listening to the result besides an anxious sort of disdain. Please, Tori. Get angry. Get euphoric. Get SOMETHING besides complacent. Otherwise this new album will be the latest in a series of dusty and forgotten cds. How Now, Brown Cow? Megan _____________________________________________________________ Fight the power! BlazeMail.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 23:03:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Simon Booth <phoenyxx98@yahoo.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: replies Me again! estraven wrote about storm chasing- got me wondering: we hear a lot about tornadoes in the US, and while they do occur outside of the usual areas, it seems like we don't hear about them happening in other areas of the world (except perhaps the plains regions of Canada). Are the conditions and terrain in the US that unique that other parts of the world simply are plagued by them? and about my space comments: " Now for the replies, all for Spaceman Simon: > From what I know about the space program, things > falling far short of predictions was always more of a > political problem than technological. Theoretically > we do have the technology to accomplish what was > depicted in the movie, we only lack the political will > to set things in motion for things to be brought > together to make it reality. Yes and no. One of the biggest obstacles to further manned exploration turns out to be something which most of us haven't considered: radiation exposure (on the order of up to 70 rem/yr for interstellar flight, enough to kill in less than 3 years), " that's something that isn't talked about to that extent- the danger *is* discussed, but it's talked about like it's a transient problem, avoided by timing missions when solar activity is at a low point and getting the spacecraft moving fast enough to reach a destination to minimize the chance of getting caught when a solar flare happens. Radiation is seen as sort of an all-or- nothing issue, when, like you describe, there's also ambient radiation in space that over time would be a huge problem. In fact some have speculated that some health problems experienced by the Apollo astronauts in the years following their missions might be the delayed effects of radiation exposure incured on their respective missions, although since some of those problems are also simply a part of aging, it's hard to tell. "and what it would require to overcome it. With current technology there are only two ways to shield a spacecraft: by surrounding it with lots of material (as in, a shell of water at least 5 meters thick) to absorb the radiation, or by using powerful magnets to deflect it. The first is simply prohibitively expensive in terms of launch costs, especially if everything comes from Earth; a more practical approach, construction in lunar orbit, would require a pre-existing infrastructure there. The second would require huge amounts of power (even with superconductors), and, if not used with a second "bucking" field, would expose the crew to dangerously high magnetic fields (over 20 Tesla)." These problems might very well be why missions away from Earth orbit stopped after Apollo 17 in December of 1972. What always gets talked about is rising public opposition and costs, but NASA was planning some very ambitious projects for the 70s and beyond- increased moon exploration and Mars missions by the early 80s. I've noticed over the years that various space books I'd read delved into the future of spaceflight the prospect of all those really cool things became less and less. Radiation sheilding poses problems beyond weight- some materials actual produce radiation when hit by certain kinds of high-energy particles. And construction in space would make building a sheilded spacecraft easier in the long term but it seems that there are no plans to build up the infrastructure for that. Some early plans for space did focus more on building the infrastructure before proceeding with missions to the moon and beyond- space stations first, so lunar and interplanetary craft could be build in orbit. Now when the first spacecraft is built with a magnetic field system to deflect radiation, you know trekkers will claim credit- first real ship with a deflector sheild! " For a Mars (or Europa) voyage, the hazard would not end at the destination, since these places lack magnetic fields and substantial atmospheres. The crew's living quarters would have to be placed underground (or under ice), necessitating a "pre-colonization" process involving extensive robotic construction." With Jupiter's moons, there's also the danger of the radiation belts around the planet. I've often wondered if development should focus on robotics- work towards developing robots sophisticated enough to be sent out in advance to get that work started, but there's the danger that the robots will come back in 40 years to get even (new BSG) ;) " True, these are not "technological" obstacles per se. But the cost involved would be staggering--probably greater than the entire military budgets of all Earth. While this might be an effective way to prevent wars, there are more pressing needs for all that cash-- primarily linked with overpopulation." It's hard to talk about space without sounding insensitive to problems on Earth. I think long term, space-related advances would have benefits on Earth, but saying that makes me seem like I'm opposed to dealing with social issues- in reality, I think all of those things are important, and that they transcend ideology. I've had to keep my interest in space a secret *because* it's gotten me into serious conflict with people- like I'm an apologist for something indefensible. "> And am I the only one who thinks the name "HAL" is not > a coincidence? Move each letter back one. And look > at the nameplate on the hatch to the computer core on > the ship when Bowman is heading in there. It *does* look an awful lot like the IBM logo, but Dr. Chandra himself replies: "Utter nonsense! Half of us *come* from IBM and we've been trying to stamp out that story for years. I thought that by now every intelligent person knew that H-A-L is derived from Heuristic Algorithmic." (Sir Arthur C. Clarke, _2010: Odyssey Two_, p. 173)" ah! I need to read 2010 again! "> And of course > practice with Photoshop and Illustrator. Hmmm...I thought it was called Adobe CS2 now...no, wait, that's a bundle containing, among other things, Photoshop and Illustrator. But what do I know? I use the Gimp 'cos it's free!" It's CS2 now but I have Photoshop 7 and Illustrator 10 and actually those still work fine. When I can afford it I'll upgrade. But right now there's no computer put new software on. My iMac needed a new DVD drive, so that was installed 2 weeks ago. Installing the new drive fried the main board, so the Mac is now a paperweight and it's a step below impossible getting CompUSA to fix it right before the warranty expires next month. This is the third time in 3 years that relatively minor issues turn into me having no computer for a long period of time, and the third time a main board is shot to hell when all a technician did was install new hardware. By themselves, the technical problems are all things that do happen from time to time- drive needing to be replaced, or the monitor needing to be fixed, but every time, it destroys the board and the techs at CompUSA go out of their way not to fix Macs even when a warranty is in effect. Basically it's like this: there's nothing inherrently wrong with Macs. The problem is with CompUSA tech support- the sell Macs but there's an aversion to actually supporting Apple products. I've been told that a lot of techs simply don't like Macs because they're a little more work than a PC. When they do repair work chances are they're going to install parts of questionable origin, "refurbished" items passed off as new. They refuse to explain why repair work is such a hassle, or why minor work makes the computer unusable. I'm amazed at people can bullshit their way out of things even when you get in their faces and demand that something be done. Now there is a possibility that I might get a new computer out of this, if they can be convinced that 3 boards during the time I've had the computer warrants replacement. If not, I'm screwed because I can't afford a new computer, nor can I afford paying for repair work after the warranty expires. And I'm already hearing the I told you so's and how it serves me right for having a Mac. "> funny (or not so funny) thing: last fall the asshole > drawing instructor on several occasions, when > commenting on my interest in technological-themed and > inspired art, would talk about how historically such > works have been the domain of fascist or totalitarian > cultures. You're right...he's an asshole. Not for being unobservant (a lot of Socialist Realist "art" did have technological themes, as it had obvious propaganda value), but because, apart from a put-down, what's the point?" Honestly I wonder how he ended up an art instructor- on one hand he know's his job, but on the other hand, his attitude about a lot of art and artists seems to contradict that. There's always a teacher who seems to take their job too seriously, getting pissed that inexperienced students aren't born with their level of expertise. " A lot of comic book art has technological themes. Does that make Stan Lee a fascist? Discuss." Why do you think I like anime? I think that instructor's attitude was basically hostile to anything that didn't fit into a narrow concept of what art was "supposed" to be. I mean, you'd expect some people to be snobs about what they like, but this guy openly expresses contempt for graphic design, computer graphics, and anything that's conceptual. And the contempt is extended to students of those aspects of art. On the other hand, when different students get together, there's none of that going on. Grapics and fine art students get along fine. So the whole disconnect is contrived. " (regarding Tori video collections): thanks for the info about El Gato. If I ever have a new computer I'll look into that. What vintage is your iMac? It was a G4. I know the new machines can do what I want in regards to video. " Don't be afraid of the command line, or of X11. There's a lot of good GNU freeware out there that's been ported to OS X!" While I never was a programmer, I've thought about getting one of the books on the command line aspects of OS X (working with the linux foundation I mean). Like I said though, all of that is a long way off. "> has [Brad Shultz] left the service or is he still working at > Stalag 13? Worse. I think he may be working in the White House, or at Faux "Fairly Unbalanced" NewsChannel; perhaps he changed his name to Bill O'Reilly...? I wanna completely scramble Arbustus Caesar's Q-vectors," Roman name for Bush? Might be more appropriate than you realize- ancient Rome's ultimate demise came after a long period of despotism on the part of their last emperors (CE 100 or so to the fall). And near the end they adopted Christianity. So of course I like to point *that* out. Want your civilization to last forever? Go pagan ;) Now I heard Bush wishes his administration could last 1000 years ..... Why is it called Fox News Channel? Because Orwell's estate would have sued if they called the Ministry of Truth. happy birthday heidi! two more years, and the sandmen come! bethey- great review of Flight 93. I agree, never "too soon". Some will keep saying it's too soon, hoping we'll ultimately forget. Beth- any of those posters left? brian wrote: "Record company executives are the last people that should be determining what we should listen to, as they've long since forgotten that the music industry is ultimately about the music." Same thing that's gone wrong with radio: creativity driven out and a total focus on the "business" side of things. There was potential for internet radio to be a force for change but the existing broadcast corporations lobbied to make the cost of music licsensing for broadcast many times that of what's charged to the broadcast stations, basically outlawing their competition. It's a total fraud when local stations try to sound "cool" and unique when they're all owned by the same company. One local morning show here in San Antonio has DJs ragging on other stations, when you know they're running into the "competing" DJs in the hall on coffee breaks, since they're all in the same building. Even in the classes I was in back in the 90s that trend was apparent. Most of the classes were about the technical aspects of broadcasting or on air work, but there was always a sublte message that talent wasn't going to get one a job. There was one class that the department put a lot into, and made it *the* final course for the degree: it was called "Broadcast Management and Sales". All about the money side of it, with a lot of it covering advertising. More recently that department at the college has expanded and updated the courses, but there too, business defeats creativity: courses about Music Production are ultimately really about music management rather than learning about actually producing music. "Back in 2002, I was sitting next to a record company exec on a flight from LA to Seattle who was talking into his cell phone while still on the tarmac." Hmm....I didn't hear news stories around that time about a record exec needing a cell phone removed from a certain part of the body. re: hosting a group of journalists covering a sports event: "Probably the most amusing part of it all was sneaking into the VIP seating at the closing ceremony. I could have thrown a tennis ball and hit any of a number of major politicians or dignitaries in the back of the head." actually for that some people wouldn't throw a tennis ball, they'd throw a molotov cocktail. mary katherine wrote: "Simon, about your posts - I'm afraid I have no idea what you're talking about. I've read your emails, and I thought they sounded like you were describing your life and thoughts. How is that ruining rdtrn? I don't understand." Well, I've been contacted by a listmember who explained to me that indeed, people like me are what's wrong with RDTRN. "I also listen to classical music. I really don't know why that's not more popular, except that I think they do a horrible job of teaching it in school. " I've thought that myself. Many things that we're told are "classic" are presented like learning about them are something we have to endure, rather than something truly challenging to learn about. I was into CDs as a new medium in the late 80s when I got my first CD player, and CDs did sound better than the vinyl and tapes I had, but it was listening to classical music in a music appreciation class at UTSA (first foray into college) in early '92 that *reallY* illustrated the superiority of digital recording technology: classical pieces have sounds that digital really brings out, beyond the actual music, so you can actually hear the "mechanical" sounds of the instruments themselves. and it looks like parallel universe versions of Beekeeper have made it into our universe. cyndi wrote: " Simon, I hope you don't think you have to quit emailing RDTRN with updates, cuz I do like reading them. just thought I'd say so. :)" thanks. I have been contacted and told that what I post is the cause of this list's problems. The infrequent postings on my part sort of evolved out of an attempt to help conserve bandwith. cograts to your brother and his wife! moving out of your parent's house? getting your own place is a huge thing, but you get used to it quickly. At my first apartment (10 years ago) what took getting used to was the quiet. :) glad to hear your dog is still hanging in there. It's true that older dogs do benefit from having a younger dog around. and that's it from me for now, posting from an old PC I borrowed from my dad. Want to see hell freeze over really fast? Make me go back to being a full time PC user. We live for The One, We die for The One. Simon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 23:46:07 -0500 From: Mark Alexander <alexander750@earthlink.net> To: "that redhead with the piano" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Click Click Delete It all sounds so familiar... > Uh, sorry about that last post. I whine too much, and > I also recant what was said in other postings as well, > because those too were whining and beyond > inappropriate. > It was brought to my attention that it's people like > me that have ruined rdtrn. Hmmm...this sounds like either (a) someone on this list e-mailed you privately and flamed you, or (b) your therapist/teacher(s)/parents/Klingons have been spying on you via the archives. In either case, tell 'em to piss off (with a Tazer if necessary) and then go grab yourself a Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster or two, 'cos "Za'hadum" is no longer in your vocabulary. That's an order, Spaceman! :-) On to that Australian dude (no, not Rupert Murdoch): > I'm largely unimpressed with anything new in the music world these > days. > Male bands/artists have become increasingly homogenized over the > last few > years to the point where I can't differentiate between them any > more. Even > the female side of the equation is heading that way. In America, the girls got there first. Or maybe it's just 'cos everything on the radio sounds the same...or *is* it the same? Even on XM, everything sounds the same, sometimes. And that's on the jazz channels. On the "local" radio I heard NIN's latest. I never would have known it was Nine Inch Nails, had the "on-air personality" not said so immediately afterward; they sounded just like Saliva...or was that Fuel...or was it...who cares anymore? "Click Click Boom," indeed. LESS THAN IRRELEVANT! > Back in 2002, I was sitting next to a record company exec on a > flight from > LA to Seattle who was talking into his cell phone while still on the > tarmac. He was talking about the relative merits of a couple of > bands they > were considering signing. His choice was based solely on look. Ah yes, the MTV effect, also known as "Another Good Reason To Kill Your Television." And that's from back in the day when they actually played videos. Going through my own Tori collection I looked in the iTunes "play count" column. No surprise there: at the top of the list were "Space Dog", "Precious Things" and "Waitress", all from the live disc of TVAB. The top studio tracks were "Muhammad My Friend" and "Yes Anastasia". At the bottom were all the tracks from _Strange Little Girls_ and _Scarlet's Walk_ (indeed, I don't even think I've heard _Scarlet's Walk_ more than two or three times straight through, all this time). Even YKTR did better than that. Perhaps I need to add some of her "official bootleg" live discs to my collection. Especially since the last two additions were the soundtrack from _The Incredibles_ and the latest studio album from Swing Out Sister (yes, they're still around). That's sad. Corinne Drewery is perhaps one-tenth the talent Tori is, but she and her band seem to be making the most of it, albeit by sticking almost slavishly to a fixed formula and refining it over the years; by contrast Tori has gone all over the place (IMHO) since BFP and gotten herself lost--and in danger of getting sucked into the safe, me-too "modern rock" event horizon. Thankfully, unlike SOS, sticking (or returning) to a fixed formula probably wouldn't work for Tori; what she really needs is to throw all caution to the wind, a la Joni Mitchell (and Linda Ronstadt, for that matter) and do something totally unexpected. After all, she has the talent, the training and the wherewithal to pull it off. And ditching Big Music wouldn't hurt either. Two words: RIGHTEOUS BABE. Estraven. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 20:28:40 -0400 From: wojbearpig <woj@smoe.org> To: torinews <torinews@smoe.org>, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>, rdtrn <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: possible tori rarties release! as i reported on undented.com <url: http://undented.com/news/27/possible-rarities-release >, there is a tori amos "rarities box" on warner music group's digital release schedule, slated to be released on september 26th. undented's source doesn't know anything about it other than exactly those two pieces of information though. how concrete are plans for this release? will there will be a concurrent cd release? what will be included? all of that stuff is completely unknown. just wanted to mention this on the lists just in case folks hadn't noticed this potentially impressive news item there! woj p.s. lest anyone be worried, my participation with undented should in no way be interpreted as abandoning the mailing lists -- i am equally commited to making sure that all tori news and other information is disseminated in both places and i readily confess to a preference to e-mail to the web! -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 13:35:57 -0400 From: wojbearpig <woj@smoe.org> To: torinews <torinews@smoe.org>, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>, rdtrn <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: tori to start recording next record soon! matt chamberlain <url: http://www.mattchamberlain.com/ >, in his june 2nd news update, posted that recording on tori's next record will be starting next week: Just packed up and and shipped a bunch of drums to be sent out to Cornwall England for next week when I start recording the new Tori Amos record�lots of recording and learning going on�... woj -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 13:39:39 -0700 From: "jessica zuckerman" <fullblownlife@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: egg donation i'm just wondering if anyone knows any woman that has donated her eggs. i'm thinking about doing it although i don't know if they'll accept me because of my family history of alcoholism. i'd love the ability to give a family a child because i don't know if i want kids of my own. interesting that they can be picky enough to choose exactly what they want. i have the application and they ask mechanical, athletic, musical abilities. and pretty much everything else even favorite type of music and color. like me loving the color blue has anything to do with what my half-daughter/son will like. anyway. just curious. i've been doing a lot of research. i'm willing to inject myself twice a day and they're willing to pay someone $4,000. that's a LOT. i would go more in depth into how i think this country is falling apart and stuff but i have to go work and sell organic food and vitamins. jessica -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:45:31 -0400 From: "Angela Reid" <angela.reid@gmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Little Blue World Issue Announcement The Summer issue of the Tori Amos fanzine Little Blue World will ship in August. This issue focuses heavily on Tori friend and fan, author Neil Gaiman. As a special gift, subscribers will receive an exclusive Tori Amos bookmark featuring photography by Loren Haynes and design by our own art editor, Jessica Stanford. Here's some of what's included in the issue: =95=09Sweet Little Stories: Our review of Where's Neil When You Need Him? =95=09Neil Gaiman 101: An Abbreviated Annotated Bibliography. =95=09Caught in the Fey: Dancing Ferret's Patrick Rodgers on Organizing a Tribute CD. =95=09Who's Who on Where's Neil: an introduction to the bands involved, plus an exclusive interview with Voltaire on his tributes to Tori and Neil. =95=09A Look Back into the Fires of Pele: Analyzing "Sister Named Desire." =95=09Where Nothing is as it Seems: a comparison of the themes at play in the works of Tori and Neil. =95=09The Harpsichord in the Twentieth Century (and Beyond): the finale of our indepth look at the old-fashioned instrument Tori brought into her repertoire with BFP. =95=09Tori in Your Pocket: Where to find Tori online and the best ways to digitally play her. =95=09Ears with Feet focus on Michael Whitehead. The force behind "The Dent" talks candidly about his history with Tori and his experiences running his site. =95=09Reviews: Our reviewer takes a listen to the catalogue of Sia. =95=09PLUS regular features like News & Expert. For more information about back issues, this issue, or how to subscribe, visit <http://www.little-blue-world.org> -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:49:14 -0400 From: wojbearpig <woj@smoe.org> To: torinews@smoe.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>, rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: details about the rarities box set! undented has the news! looks like quite a hefty package! (sorry about text format -- i don't feel like turning all the .'s into straight quotes -- they're curly quotes on the site.) woj ______________________________________________________________________ http://undented.com/news/41/get-ready-for-the-rarities-box-set News: Get Ready For The Rarities Box Set Posted by Violet on Monday, June 26, 2006 Following up on the previous item we posted about an upcoming rarities box set, Undented has received a copy of the press release containing details of the set. A PIANO: THE COLLECTION, will be a five-disc, career-spanning box set consisting of classics, rarities, demos, B-sides and unreleased tracks. And yes, indeed, very exciting news for Toriphiles . Tori will finally introduce us to five very special songs: .Not David Bowie,. .Zero Point,. .Peeping Tommi,. .Ode To My Clothes. and .Dolphin Song.. Presented in deluxe packaging that resembles a piano.s keyboard, this set will be released by Rhino Records on September 26, 2006, at will be available at regular retail outlets and at the Rhino Records website for a suggested price of $74.98. Produced by Tori, the career-spanning collection highlights selections from her studio albums as well as b-sides and songs that debuted on Tales of a Librarian. Featuring numerous unreleased songs, the box set contains a total of 86 tracks that combine well-known studio versions with rare alternative mixes, including several songs Tori remixed for this project. A PIANO: THE COLLECTION also offers a revealing and extensive track-by-track commentary penned by Tori, who discusses the inspiration behind the songs and albums and explains why they were chosen for this box set. The compilation.s first disc includes an extended version of Tori.s 1992 debut, Little Earthquakes. The classic album has been augmented not only with a different song sequence and alternate mixes but it also features it.s four original b-sides .Upside Down,. .Take To The Sky (Russia),. .Sweet Dreams. and an alternate mix of .Flying Dutchman,. as well as the previously unreleased, unedited single version of .Crucify.. Spotlighting music recorded between 1994 and 1996, the second disc includes songs from Under the Pink and Boys for Pele. The 18 tracks blend original and remixed versions of albums cuts with the b-side .Honey. and .Professional Widow. performed live. Also included is .Take Me With You,. an unreleased song intended for Little Earthquakes. .At the time I just couldn.t finish it,. Tori writes in the liner notes. .When we found it, there were no lyrics to speak of, just music. So you.ll have something partly recorded in 1990 but with a vocal recorded in 2006.. The third disc also includes songs associated with Boys for Pele plus 1999.s To Venus and Back and Tales of a Librarian: A Tori Amos Collection. The 15 songs feature original and remixed versions of album tracks as well as .Hey Jupiter. (Dakota Version) and .Professional Widow. (Armand.s Star Trunk Funkin. Mix). Also featured is .Walk To Dublin (Sucker Reprise),. an unreleased track from the Pele sessions. >From the Choirgirl Hotel (1998), Scarlet.s Walk (2002) and The Beekeeper (2005) are the focus of the fourth disc, which contains 15 songs including original and remixed versions of album tracks. Also featured is the unheard intro for .Marys Of The Sea. from The Beekeeper as well as four previously unreleased songs .Not David Bowie,. .Zero Point,. .Ode To My Clothes. and .Dolphin Song.. In the liner notes, Tori writes: .Some songs seem to have a timeline for when they want to be finished and put out to the world. At the time when we were working on .Dolphin Song,. I had all kinds of ideas for her development after the basic tracking had been done. Instead she got set aside for a while. But once we started to go through the tape library we put .Dolphin. up on the faders again, and I realized we didn.t need to record anything else; it was finished.. The final disc features 22 tracks spotlighting Tori.s impressive list of renowned b-sides and includes the exclusive digital release .Merman. from 1999. For what could be the most intriguing addition to the collection, Tori invites listeners into her artistic process with a medley of demos for the songs, .Fire-Eater.s Wife/Beauty Queen,. .Playboy Mommy. and .A Sorta Fairytale.. Amos explains in the liner notes: .I.m usually pretty reticent to expose the musical development process.The demo medley was a choice I made so that other songwriters can feel an affinity with the idea that songwriters have to push themselves and not just accept the first incarnation that you are presented with. Each of these three songs are presented here in their completed form somewhere within the box set so you can see conception to development.. The track listing for A PIANO: THE COLLECTION is as follows: * = previously unreleased Disc 1 1..Leather. (Alternate Mix) 2..Precious Things. (Alternate Mix) 3..Silent All These Years. 4..Upside Down. 5..Crucify. (Unedited Single Version)* 6..Happy Phantom. 7..Me And A Gun. 8..Flying Dutchman. (Alternate Mix) 9..Girl. 10..Winter. 11..Take To The Sky (Russia). 12..Tear In Your Hand. 13..China. 14..Sweet Dreams. 15..Mother. (Alternate Mix) 16..Little Earthquakes. Disc 2 1..Cornflake Girl. 2..Honey. 3..Take Me With You.* 4..Baker Baker. (Alternate Mix) 5..The Waitress. (Alternate Mix) 6..Pretty Good Year. 7..God. 8..Cloud On My Tongue. 9..Past The Mission. (Alternate Mix) 10..Bells For Her. 11..Yes, Anastasia. (Alternate Mix) 12..Blood Roses. 13..Mr. Zebra. 14..Caught A Lite Sneeze. (Alternate Mix) 15..Professional Widow. (Merry Widow Version . Live) 16..Beauty Queen/Horses. 17..Father Lucifer. 18..Marianne. Disc 3 1..Walk To Dublin. (Sucker Reprise)* 2..Hey Jupiter. (Dakota Version) 3..Professional Widow. (Armand.s Star Trunk Funkin. Mix) 4..Putting The Damage On. 5..Bliss. (Remixed Version) 6..Suede. 7..Glory Of The 80.s. 8..1000 Oceans. 9..Concertina. (Single Remix Version) 10..Lust. 11..Datura. 12..Sugar. (Live from sound check) 13..The Waitress. (Live) 14..Snow Cherries From France. 15..Doughnut Song. (Remixed Version) Disc 4 1. .A Sorta Fairytale. 2..Not David Bowie.* 3..Amber Waves. 4..Iieee. (Remixed Version) 5..Playboy Mommy. (Remixed Version) 6..The Beekeeper. 7..Jackie.s Strength. 8..Zero Point.* 9..Sweet The Sting. 10..Ode To My Clothes.* 11..Spark. 12..Intro Jam.* and .Marys Of The Sea. 13..Cruel. (Remixed Version) 14..Dolphin Song.* 15..Gold Dust. Disc 5 1..The Pool. 2..Never Seen Blue. 3..Daisy Dead Petals. 4..Beulah Land. 5..Sugar. 6..Cooling. 7..Bachelorette. 8..Black Swan. 9..Mary. (Tales Version) 10..Peeping Tommi.* 11..Toodles Mr. Jim. Demo Medley: 12..Fire-Eater.s Wife/Beauty Queen. (Demo)* 13..Playboy Mommy. (Demo)* 14..A Sorta Fairytale. (Demo)* 15..This Old Man. 16..Purple People. 17..Here. In My Head. 18..Hungarian Wedding Song. 19..Merman. 20..Sister Janet. 21..Home On The Range. (Cherokee Edition) 22..Frog On My Toe. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:30:17 -0700 From: "jessica zuckerman" <fullblownlife@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: piano i heard today on sirius 9 that this fall tori will release a giant cd "thing" with 84 tracks. it's supposed to look like a piano. it's gonna have b sides and rarities and other such songs. sounds pretty cool...hopefully it'll be less than $100. kickboxing is gonna kick my butt. jessica o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o *** Subliminal Day Off digest *** To POST messages to this list: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Can't figure out how to SUB, UNSUB, or CHANGE ADDRESSES? Send a message to <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "help" as the subject. Digest PROBLEMS or QUESTIONS? Contact: <admin@torithoughts.org> Want your BIRTHDAY announced on RDTRN in 2006? 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