RDT Archive - Really-Deep-Thoughts digest 14/02/95 Part 2

Really-Deep-Thoughts digest 14/02/95 Part 2

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Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 00:46:04 -0500
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********************************************************************** Please send unsubscribe messages to rdt-request@gradient.cis.upenn.edu DO NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list --- they will be ignored ********************************************************************** CONTENTS Singing while my... FAQ His formative years... Help! king bootleg covers Forwarded: off topic, but... Subject: S & M in Beantown!!!-update holy toledo Fairies and the search for the elusive Tori. =) More Pink Does anyone have?/ethics of bootlegs au revoir les elephants very last post YKTR Tori and Eric's breakup late, but -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Tue Feb 14 15:15:29 1995 Date: 14 Feb 95 15:13:03 EST From: Marcel Rijs <100276.2176@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Singing while my... <KCUPLIN@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU> writes: [...] > came to a decision that she HAS to listen to opera because you > can't listen to opera in the shower because it sounds like you're > inside a waterfall and when you crane your neck back to hit that > BIG note your throat fills with water and you gargle it instead > and when you take a bath you can't sing because you're just > saying "ahhh" and paddling bubbles around the tub but when you're > dying you can wander around in your bathrobe and make grand > heroic gesture and sing "oh dulce mia" really loud and put > obnoxious Okay, I'm lost. But anyway, I wanted to pass on the message that Tori definitely has some Gregorian influence in her work. My mother keeps saying so. The way she sings and the melodic turns in her music reminds her of Gregorian music. For what it's worth... Marcel Rijs * "Conan the librarian" * Den Haag * The Netherlands ================================================================ 100276.2176@compuserve.com mfgr@sara.nl ================================================================ "It's 03.30 and I'm thinking of you..." - The blue nile,"Regret" =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Again... no mail today. It's the 6th consecutive year. I'm lost. -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Tue Feb 14 15:15:43 1995 Date: 14 Feb 95 15:13:21 EST From: Marcel Rijs <100276.2176@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: FAQ Hi, The FAQ says that there are 5 bootlegs of Y Kant Tori Read. However, I seem to think there is a sixth one. Listen to this: > 2. YKTR only- a German bootleg of the CD. it is easily > distinguishable by the spine which is WHITE on BLACK lettering. > it also carries the incorrect catalog number 81845-1. In > addition, the artwork suffers from quite a bit of crosshatching > when it was scanned, the colors just don't look "right" (Tori's > hair color on the cover is WAAAAAAY off), and it is obvious that > some scan retouching has been done on the cover where the promo > sticker used to be. (directly to the right of Tori's face.) > (Yes, I know this one says "Atlantic Records" all over it. IT IS > NOT LEGITIMATE!!! The bootlegger just wanted to try extra hard to > make it seem real, and to make his tracks unfollowable. IMHO, > whoever it was did a pretty good job..) My copy of YKTR is not the original, nor this one, nor the gold disc. It is a CD "Made in Germany", with no company name on the disc or sleeve. The actual info on the disc is as follows: - - "Compact disc" symbol & "Y Kant Tori Read" above the hole of the disc; - - "ADD" and track listing left of the hole; - - "756781845.2", "GEMA", "c 1988", "All songs written by TORI" on the right of the hole; - - "Made in Germany" under the hole. The artwork consists of a 4-page booklet. The front is a photo from the "Big picture" or "Cool on your island" sleeve, the original YKTR front sleeve is on the back (with the same retouching mentioned above), and a b/w picture of part of the original front sleeve is included in the two pages in the booklet. On the back of the CD there's the track listing with white lettering on black on the right, and another cute photograph of Tori on the left. Finally, the spine has the same black & white lettering mentioned above. I was stunned by the description above, since it resembles my copy somuch, yet it is very different. Do I have a rare bootleg? BTW, all "newbie" fans beware of rip-off dealers: I recently had to tell a German dealer he was selling a YKTR _bootleg_ for 100 Guilders ($55). He smilingly replied that the original YKTR went for $150 - $300, implying that he was asking a very reasonable price. Bootlegs of YKTR shouldn't cost more than the regular price for a bootleg! So please keep that in mind. > (^) Dutch Tori Amos article, from the magazine "Oor" ["Ear"], > nr. 2, 29 January - 11 February 1994. Posted by Marcel > Rijs. [...] > ( All quotes from sources above used w/o permission. Hope they > don't mind! ) Au contraire... I'm honoured! I finally made it to a FAQ on the Internet! Regards, Marcel Rijs * "Conan the librarian" * Den Haag * The Netherlands ================================================================ 100276.2176@compuserve.com mfgr@sara.nl -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Tue Feb 14 16:39:03 1995 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 16:38:30 -0500 From: Donald Jay Kulpa <dk141093@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Subject: His formative years... Hi guys-- Just a few thoughts on V-D (my term for Feb. 14th and this vile, abject holiday) -- Well, it's been a few weeks now since I went through the "Stereotypical Tori Experience," namely, cocooning with LE after patching up what's left of my friendship with that evil, vile creature I like to refer to as "My ex." Better now, but still ROYALLY pissed... ;) So, now that I've been passed over for the human pincussion (don't ask, but I am offended on a PRIMAL level over these events) I thought I'd try and recoup and see what this V-D has to offer me... Not a whole hell of a lot. Actually, so much for romance, I have two bloody midterms tomorrow... and no one to share it with. But I still believe in romance. Let's face it, if somebody gave you a bowl of sugar (guess which ToriSong, just guess!!!), you'd follow them to the proverbial ends of the earth just out of consideration. I know I would. It's gotta be better than that bloody "Bottle of Rain." So, mostly, I treated myself and charged two new CDs on the credit card that I have only for school stuff. Never mind that I can hardly swing anything after tuition, 'cause that's another story. So, I love you all, and I hope you have a good V-D, because I'm afraid of mine. "HI's" to Kevin, Greg, and all of the wonderful people I've talked to out of these "Funny Pages." You've all been so kind, and I love you especially much. I know it's pretty off topic guys == but have a happy day. Check the sig. -- it's sums it up (just kidding, I'm not that bitter.) JAY =) - - XOXOXOXOX JAY KULPA dk141093@oak.cats.ohiou.edu (614)597.9397 XOXOXOXOXOXO "I can feel it in my bones, I'm gonna spend another year alone." Liz Phair *******HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY -- I'M SO HAPPY... =) ******* A thought: For this happy holiday, why not put out your cigarettes on the foreheads of people in love, or someone you love -- celebrate a little. =) - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Nothing," said Piglet, taking Pooh's paw, "I just wanted to be sure of you." -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Tue Feb 14 16:58:04 1995 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 15:57:59 -0600 (CST) From: Elizabeth Anni Mildfelt <maizy@ksu.ksu.edu> Subject: Help! Mime-Version: 1.0 I was wondering if someone with both the Crufify live ep and PtM could help me out. (please oh please) I NEED a recording of the live versions of The Waitress, Winter, Little Earthquakes, Crucify, Precious Things, and Mother that appear on those singles. I can pay for the tape and postage. Email me privately and we'll work something out. Much thanks in advance. Beth -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Tue Feb 14 17:54:21 1995 From: dlschol@gwproteus.com (Dan L. Scholnick) Reply-To: dlschol@gwproteus.com Subject: king bootleg covers Date: 14 Feb 1995 21:44:18 GMT Organization: Gateway Proteus (215-535-3190) i have a few things to say... but first, i think tori would do a lovely version of jesus was way cool, by king missile-- but it would be weird for her to do a spoken thing, *while* playing piano. It would be a very interesting twist, and i think she would have fun with it. when king missile does it live (the full band version is very cool), john does all kinds of fun variations on it, and tori could come up with some splendid ones, i'm sure :) to colin pickett, yes, there has been a discussion on bootlegs here, and it was the cause of many excessively monstrous digests. please let's not dredge that up again? is there a discography for the UtP singles remotely as good as the one for the LE singles? i am curious about how much they are all worth, and what, exactly is out there... what i should keep an eye out for you guys, 'cause i have all of them ;) finally, is there anyone who is willing to copy Under the Covers for me? i missed out on it the first time, and i reeeaaaaly want it. please? dan -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Tue Feb 14 19:30:10 1995 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 19:29:42 -0500 From: Donald Jay Kulpa <dk141093@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Subject: Forwarded: off topic, but... Hello, once again-- Posting this again, a friend of mine is doing this survey and needs all the responses he can get. I know it's off topic, but it is serious, enjoyable, and surprising. If you wouldn't mind doing it please respond to either Erik or myself and the survey will be forwarded to you. **********Lurkers ARE Welcome********** - -jay ******Generation-X Research Study****** My name is Erik Laursen and I am an undergraduate in interpersonal communication at Ohio University. I am currently involved in studying "Generation-X." This, being a vague and diverse topic has resulted in my desiring my own first hand research. As a result I am distributing a survey via the Internet. If you consider yourself to be a part of "Generation-X" or at least, fall into that classification, and are interested in participating in the survey, please send me a quick message at: el113792@oak.cats.ohiou.edu You will have the survey within 24 hours. The survey is 241 lines long. Thank you - --------- Erik Laursen el113792@oak.cats.ohiou.edu THANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOU -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Tue Feb 14 19:30:34 1995 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 19:29:09 -0500 From: salmon@acs.bu.edu Subject: S & M in Beantown!!!-update Hi people. I have a quick update for anyone in the Boston area who had planned on attending the March 21 Sarah McLachlan concert at the Orpheum: If you haven't purchased tickets yet, don't bother. See, I went down to the theatre today to get tix for me and two friends, and had the misfortune of being informed that the only available seats (for my situation) were last row balcony. I almost told the semi-nice man at the ticket window to bite me, but I didn't cause it's not his fault. I don't have the $$ to cough up for crappy seats. Now if it had been a TORI concert, I would have given my firstborn to sit wherever they wanted me to. I love Sarah and all, but I love my Tori to pieces. Have a good one and keep racin' turtles! Susanna -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Tue Feb 14 19:50:13 1995 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 19:25:19 -0500 (EST) From: ESANDER@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU Subject: holy toledo Mime-Version: 1.0 Hello everybody in vaxland. I just wanted to say to that person who saw Tori in Toledo that I was there and I don't particularly remember that speech. Would've been neat though. There are not enough hours in the day to hold the neatness of a Tori Amos show. I hardly got any responses from hardly anybody about the hair dying experience. k@tie thinks that Tori sings opera when she is dying her hair but I just don't know. Speculations are fun. Any body else want to speculate? I KNOW, i know. It's not the deepest thing to hit the screens but doesn't it pique anybody else's interest? I'm just lookin' for fun in all the wrong lists I suppose. I think maybe Tori listens to songs about fire when she dyes her hair. I think maybe I'll go back to bed now. As always, Elizabeth (esander@uoft02.utoledo.edu) "I would enjoy your presence infinitely more if you would agree to treat gravity as a law rather than as one of a number of suggested options." -Delerium quoting her doggy -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Tue Feb 14 19:54:09 1995 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 19:54:08 -0500 From: FERFERGIRL@aol.com Subject: Fairies and the search for the elusive Tori. =) Hi again! I hope you are all having a great Valentine's Day. I just wanted to let you know that I just heard today that Tori sang back-up on a singer named Ferron's, Phantom Centre album. If anyone is interested in getting mail order information for Ferron e-mail Michael at: MSHELLE@vm1.si.USherb.ca I hope someone out there finds this useful. May the fairies venture into your part of the world. Love, Jen -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Tue Feb 14 20:04:31 1995 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 95 19:08:23 CST From: "Lisa Voigt" <lnvoigt@students.wisc.edu> Sender: lnvoigt@students.wisc.edu Subject: More Pink *********************************************************************** C O M M E R C I A L B R E A K *********************************************************************** One further addition for all who may be on the eternal quest to locate More Pink -- If you're anywhere in the Madison, Wisconsin region (I know that there are at least six or seven of you), there is a copy at Discount Records for $24.99. And if it's not there when YOU arrive, I can order it for you. *********************************************************************** Thanks all -- Lisa -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Tue Feb 14 20:18:10 1995 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 20:00:46 -0500 From: shaw@newton.franklincoll.edu Subject: Does anyone have?/ethics of bootlegs Hello, fellow faeries! I've not been on the list very long this time, but the time I was on this past fall there was quite a bit of praise circulating about the October (possibly Nov.?) Tori show in Toronto (which I almost went to and am now kicking myself). I was wondering if anyone happens to have a boot of that show that I could buy/have copied? If I remember correctly, this show consisted mostly of b-sides, which I would love to have live! I've been dreaming about this concert, you see...email me, please:) I've just bought the first disc of the Little Rarities, and I am now enjoying having 70+ minutes of Tori b-sides on CD. I am a little concerned with the ethics of buying a CD from which Tori sees no proceeds; however, I was sick to death of changing CD's to hear all my singles (which were expensive and hard to find in the first place). I was wondering what other Tori fans felt about the bootleg buisness. "Little green men, do ok, it's the faeries revenge, they say" Love and nymphs, Heather -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Tue Feb 14 21:04:42 1995 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 20:05:57 -0600 (CST) From: idyll <ironnori@creighton.edu> Subject: au revoir les elephants Mime-Version: 1.0 trying to benefit from the fount of knowledge that is rdt, i ask ye: who was that i heard covering "landslide" on the radio today? 'twas some male group, methinks. awaiting the insight, noridelle -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Tue Feb 14 21:17:17 1995 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 20:17:15 -0600 From: andrea <silent@nwu.edu> Subject: very last post for a little while. anyway, before i sign off for good, i want to make a recommendation. "drawing down the moon" by margot adler. it's a great book on witchcraft and wicca and other pagan things. on the subject of that, i would like to give my thanks to the whole of this list for introducing me to such great stuff- nin, sandman, sylvia plath, pj harvey, siberry, sarah, happy, and so much other neat things i can't think of just now. thanks! now i'm bye-bye for good, andrea Capricorn siSter -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Tue Feb 14 22:34:15 1995 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 22:34:11 -0500 (EST) From: HUBBARD <99hubbar@lab.cc.wmich.edu> Subject: YKTR Mime-Version: 1.0 I have the chance to purchase Y Kant Tori Read for $30, is it really worth it? --Shawn *************************** 99hubbar@lab.cc.wmich.edu "We know what we are, but know not what we may be." -Shakespeare -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Tue Feb 14 23:30:19 1995 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 23:30:46 -0500 (EST) From: Sara D Thibault <sdt@keene.edu> Subject: Tori and Eric's breakup Mime-Version: 1.0 Amy posted a question worthy of a real answer....I just got my REALLY DEEP THOUGHTS fanzine #8 last week saying that Tori and Eric broke up OVER THE SUMMER(!!!!) and that plans to have a baby are off. It is my estimation that Tori was never actually pregnant, although I was disappointed to hear the news so late in the game.. It says she and Eric are still good friends and will be doing future projects together, and that the situation has given her something to write about, so here we have a new album in the works...I'd also like to know if anyone has any more information... Sara SheGod in Keene State Hell... -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Tue Feb 14 23:36:48 1995 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 20:36:45 -0800 (PST) From: karasu <MABRAMS@POMONA.EDU> Subject: late, but Mime-Version: 1.0 happy St. Valentine's Day to all of you anyway. A more complete review of More Pink, which I'm listening to again (surprisingly): I really like it. Even more complete review to follow eventually. I like this here Sugar song. maybe Tori should sing that other Sugar song? You know. sugar, da da dum dum dum dum de dum, honey honey... bye bye to andrea; hope you come back. I've not seen the _All These Years_ book; however, it did show up in a grocery store I dreamed about, next to a nonexistent Brandon Lee biography, while some woman sang one of Virginia Mayo's lines from _Up In Arms_ which, while not politically correct, is a Danny Kaye movie and should thus be seen. Pardon me for being off-topic. But isn't that better than having to be hostilely defensive, as in the following? M. Baer says this: >Speaking of spontaneity, or lack thereof, is anyone else annoyed by these >obviously fake "stream-of-consciousness" writings here? [a bit cut] >I suppose anyone can write however they want to, but these blatant attempts at >"art" aren't very genuine, or very successful. Write from your heart.... Tori >does =) I'm afraid I may not know what you're talking about. Try as I might, I can't find any postings that are 'obviously fake.' Or do you mean anything lacking proper punctuation? I daresay I am helpless to judge what might be genuine and what might not be. I can't see lack of punctuation as any less genuine than its presence, which would in itself and by definition be rather forced? Well. I don't mean to begin an argument on the inherent characteristics of language. What I do mean is this: I don't see how it is you have the power to tell whether or not writers are writing from their hearts. Know what? I think this post of mine is art. So are everybody else's if they want them to be, and whether they choose to write according to every rule of grammar or not, or in all lowercase or alternating lowercase and capitals, or in Manx or Esperanto, or using Burroughsian cut-up is up to them. sorry, folks. Fault this to my mind's taking terrible offense at ever seeing another post like that one after my first post on the subject a week or two ago. back on subject, though only my personal subject: as I have a fairly low voice, and also can't sing, I am unfortunately usually unable to partake well in the singing of Tori ballads. However! there is a part of a Tori song which I can sing. Not well, as I can't sing well. But nicely enough to wander around, singing it over and over everywhere I go. For thirty points, can you name the part of the song? answer in my next post. best to all until then, and a get well soon wish to Chris Fisher's cd player. yours very truly matthew "Mirrors would do well to reflect before sending back images." -Jean Cocteau _Sang d'un Poete_ --- End of messages --- To post messages on really-deep-thoughts send them to really-deep-thoughts@gradient.cis.upenn.edu or rdt@gradient.cis.upenn.edu To change or remove your subscription to Really-Deep-Thoughts please send mail to really-deep-thoughts-request@gradient.cis.upenn.edu or rdt-request@gradient.cis.upenn.edu Other administrative requests should be sent to really-deep-thoughts-owner@gradient.cis.upenn.edu or rdt-owner@gradient.cis.upenn.edu Archives and a discography are available by anonymous ftp from ftp.uwp.edu, in the directory /pub/music/lists/rdt. - -Anthony (mailing-list-owner)

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