RDT Archive - Really-Deep-Thoughts digest 17/05/95 Part 1

Really-Deep-Thoughts digest 17/05/95 Part 1

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Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 23:55:08 -0400
Subject: Really-Deep-Thoughts digest 17/05/95 Part 1
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********************************************************************** Please send unsubscribe messages to rdt-request@gradient.cis.upenn.edu DO NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list --- they will be ignored ********************************************************************** CONTENTS adam frank im a star!!!!!!!!!!!! NME and the devil-bunnies Winter + handwritten lyrics by TORI for Sale Live in Miami 1992 video fav quotes Sugar... Sundry items heeelp Red hair Non-Tori (pj Harvey) college kids...fun days....back home.... OnToriAmos on TORI AMOS Comics.. Rape.. Natural Born Killers _More Pink_ Advice, Goddess Quotes, and More lots of soft drink junk -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Wed May 17 00:48:30 1995 Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 00:47:59 -0400 From: Jennela@aol.com Subject: adam frank im a star!!!!!!!!!!!! Whoevers idea it was to put tori in my so called life as the counsler; i bow down to you. that is a genius idea! e mail me and we can write a perspective script, who cares if the show is cancelled! p.s. adam look! im famous!!!!!!!! myra would be proud oh, does anyone have that new biography? -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Wed May 17 00:58:07 1995 Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 23:58:04 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: konitzer@students.wisc.edu (Phantom) Wow! My last post from college this year. But to whoever said that the crazy college kids were all gone, don't worry, cause this crazy college kid'll be here all summer! B-) mharris@injersey.com wrote: Do you know, I was just thinking (dangerous, ain't it?) ... Tori would sound absolutely wonderful if she sang "Candle on the Water" from the Disney film "Pete's Dragon". It's a beautiful ballad ... I tend to disagree on this one. It's a beautiful melody, sure, but there's really nothing behind it. Nothing driving it to be interesting. Anyway, Tori would really have to mess with it to make it her own (not that I'd mind ;) Tori herself said: "I think I'm Metallica, but don't tell anybody. I'm a one-woman Metallica. Acoustic, at that." I'd love to hear her version of "Enter Sandman" :) "And if I died today I'd be the Happy..." - Phantom pagj20a@prodigy.com -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Wed May 17 02:23:36 1995 Subject: NME and the devil-bunnies From: jon.mcilwaine@wa-bbs.com (JON MCILWAINE) Date: Tue, 16 May 95 23:33:00 -0500 Organization: World Access BBS Reply-To: jon.mcilwaine@wa-bbs.com (JON MCILWAINE) References: <8A9559B.0064003A6C.uuout@wa-bbs.com> > Is Tori the best interview subject alive on this planet, or what? If there > was any doubt of that, it was erased by that lovely NME interview posted by > some kind soul (twice, but that's OK - bandwidth waste happens). Yee-hah. I > still toweling off. Isn't it fun idolizing someone who's so friggin' open a > outrageous and funny and smart? And who likes doing interviews? Well, glad it wasn't a complete waste of time to type it out :-) I noticed it was sent twice too, and I don't know why. Must be the system. Yah, that's it! Well, if this one is sent twice, we'll know fer sure the devil-bunnies are at it again! To the person (hopefully) taping UTC2 for me...I'm still interested. Sorry about the delay, but I was studying for my OAC (grade 13) English exam. Which I bombed. :-( But at least I have Tori to listen to still :-) Peace, love and blessings... Sod (jon.mcilwaine@wa-bbs.com) [send no encoded files please] +===========================================================================+ | I once had a dream, and the Goddess spoke to me. And She spoke from the | | mouth of a woman whose voice could move the mountains to weep rivers, | | and the valleys to rise in rightous anger. My heart broke into a | | thousand pieces, and I beat my breast for what I was. Then She took my | | hand and led me to a better world. And when I awoke, I found this woman. | | And her name was Tori. | +===========================================================================+ -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Wed May 17 02:28:08 1995 Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 2:28:01 -0400 (EDT) From: RAISIN GUY <RINEHARTRH@wofford.edu> From: TRUTH::RINEHARTRH "RAISIN GUY" 17-MAY-1995 02:24:22.34 Subj: > > >> > > >> YOUR PARENTS WERE RIGHT ABOUT THIS ONE. > > >> And if they didn't tell you, I will. There are people in this > > >>world who will hurt you. Sometimes very consciously, and sometimes > > >>without realizing. So wake up. You've lived in the same dorm with these > > >>people since September. That nice boy, Eric wouldn't do anything to hurt > > >>you. He has animal posters on his wall, and a little sister he adores. > > >>Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong. Why take the chance? Imagine > > >>the following scenario... > > >> He knocks on the door. She doesn't really know him well, but her > > >>friends party with him often. So, she smiles and settles back onto her > > >>bed as he walks in. They chat. He is drunk and sometimes funny. Without > > >>thinking, she rubs her shoulders because they're tense and sore from the > > >>hours spent writing that paper last night. He notices and offers to give > > >>her a massage. " How sweet of him," she thinks as he stammers on about > > >>his high school. "He's a little drunk but entertaining. " Her shoulders > > >>feel better, so she pulls away. He politely gets up and moves back to the > > >>desk chair as she leans against her pillows, knees pulled against her > > >>chest. > > > >>All so innocent. Such normal behavior in a dorm on this small campus. So > > >>what is it that made him get off the chair? Sit on the edge of her bed? > > >>Lean over and kiss her? Perhaps she kissed him back. "He was a nice guy, > > >>so why not?" And it was fine. > > >> > > >> Then she tried to get up. > > >> > > >> Then she tried to get him off. > > >> > > >> Maybe she screamed. Maybe she kicked. And punched and cried. > > >>Maybe she didn't. But he never got off. And quietly he whispered into her > > >>ear. Pressure. She stops struggling, and lies still. Head, empty. He > > >>moves with confidence, control. " There's a crack in my ceiling," she > > >>thinks. With a groan he rolls off her. Smiles. His eyes say, "There now. > > >>That wasn't so bad, was it?" Like a doctor after an injection. He leaves. > > >>She picks up her book, and watches the words as they float in her tears. > > >>And she is scared. And I was scared as I listened. And a week later, it > > >>happens again. > > > >> > > >> Same guy. Same girl. Just another quiet night in the dorm. > > >> > > >> She never SAID no. But he never asked. Because he didn't care. > > >>This happens every day and every night, to people you know, by people you > > >>know. The guy may be sober, the girl may be drunk. But we all learned in > > >>kindergarten--ask before taking, and don't touch what isn't yours. And > > >>women --Yes is Yes, and No is NO. Please don't continue the legacy of > > >>mixed signals. > > >> > > >> > > >> This is a chain letter. Send one to the people you care about, or > > >>are afraid of. In any school, in any country. Please write the name of > > >>your school at the bottom, and place an X beside it if someone you know > > >>has been a victim of assault or rape. And please, don't be afraid to say > > >>no, it's a start. > > >> > > >>X Tufts University WPI X Cornell University X Princeton University X > > >>University of Delaware X University of Delaware X Rutgers University > > >> Bryn Mawr College Massachusetts Institute of Technology > > >>X Alfred University X Alfred University X Alfred University X Alfred > > >>University > > >> new york university Kenyon College > > >>X Kenyon College X Kenyon College X Kenyon College X Kenyon College X > > >>Kenyon College X Kenyon College X Harvey Mudd College X Harvey Mudd > > >>College X Harvey Mudd College X Harvey Mudd College Harvard University X > > >>Harvard University x Harvard University X Dartmouth College X dartmouth > > >>college X Dartmouth College X Dartmouth College > > >> > > >>X University of Virginia X Dartmouth College X Dartmouth College X Bates > > >>College University of Delaware X University of Delaware > > >> University of Delaware Vassar College > > >X Vassar College > > X Vassar College > Michigan State University X University of Wisconsin Parkside X Humboldt State > University X Florida State University x University of Florida / X Wofford College, Spartanburg, SC (WAY too many X's...) -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Wed May 17 03:00:53 1995 Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 09:00:13 +0200 From: MERZP@ubaclu.unibas.ch Subject: Winter + handwritten lyrics by TORI for Sale Mime-Version: 1.0 I wondered if anyone would be interested in this CD (it's been in the record shop I usually buy stuff for ages and nobody seems to want it, so...) it's Winter, the cover picture is of Tori dressed in a silver raincoat, lying on a white horse's back. There's a sticker on the cover saying 'includes handwritten lyrics by Tori Amos'. I don't remember the songs on it right now but I can check if anyone's interested. It sells for 14 Swiss Francs (yeah, I live in Switzerland) which would be approx. 12$ It is probably a Europe pressing or edition or whatever...so if you're interested, drop me a line! Patrick -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Wed May 17 03:01:44 1995 Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 00:01:41 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: gheng@PrimeNet.Com (gheng) Subject: Live in Miami 1992 video Hi, all! Does anyone know the track list & quality of this bootleg video? I saw it in the store for $19.95 & was intrigued... btw, Sinead should be on Letterman tonight (Wed.)! -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Wed May 17 04:14:31 1995 Subject: fav quotes Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 04:10:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jason Edward Hicks" <hicksjas@student.msu.edu> OK, I was going to do this privately, but I figured everyone might want to see these. Anyways... favorite Tori/Sandman quotes for your yearbook? Simple: Sandman: actually, I can think of a couple, unfortunatly neither of them come from Lord Morpheus himself... actually, I think I'll just make it one big long quote: "Perhaps it will destroy you, and perhaps it won't. But I doubt it will make your life any easier. It's all yours, now, Morpheus. You're the sole monarch of a locked and empty hell. Perhaps I ought to have given you my best wishes. I could have told you that I hoped it would bring you happiness. But somehow...somehow I doubt it will." - -Lucifer Morningstar, Season of Mist episode 2 (Sandman #23) or, actually a quote from The Sandman himself, my favorite from him: "It is as natural to die as it is to be born. But they fear her. Dread her. Feebly they attempt to placate her. They do not love her." - -Sandman, The Sound Of Her Wings (Sandman #8) OK, now for Tori quotes: "I wanna smash the faces of those beautiful boys, those Christian boys, so you can make me cum." Tori Amos - Precious Things. (unfortunatly your principal wouldn't like that either). "And if I died today I'll be the happy phantom". "I'll wake up in strawberry fields every day and the attrocities of school I can forgive." both from Tori Amos - Happy Phantom "oh god, why am I here?" Tori Amos - Leather OK, out of all the wonderful quotes to pick from from both, I would have to say those are my most favorties. - -Jay -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Wed May 17 05:17:54 1995 Subject: Sugar... Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 19:11:19 +1000 (EST) From: "Sean Pryor" <sean@triode.apana.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Hi... I'm new here, in fact, I'm only a week old in relation to Tori Amos :-), so stay with me if I ask something that you've all just covered... In fact, I hadn't even heard of Tori Amos two weeks ago, until I borrowed a friend's Higher Learning Soundtrack, which I really didn't think much of, besides a certain breathtaking version of Losing My Religion (and being a pretty huge R.E.M. fan, I was surprised to see someone else do that song as well as Stipe & Co.) and another song which I'm going to have to sit down at my piano and figure out because I love it (or Butterfly :-) ) Anyway, I now have (a week later), Under the Pink and More Pink (the B-sides), and can't believe how I'd managed to miss out on this stuff for so long... besides being a Sting/Police addict, Miss Amos's disc hasn't left my magazine... I have however, one question. What do the lyrics to Sugar mean? I think both it and the Waitress are really great uses of computerised ambient type percussion, but I can't figure the lyrics to Sugar (having downloaded them from the web page). One theory is that its about Cocaine, but that may be so far from candy I'm not sure... :-) Anyway, G'day and hope to hear more from you soon... Ciao Sean Pryor Surfing the Net from Oz as: Sean@triode.apana.org.au +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Stewart "I'm gonna write you a sonnet but I don't know where to start | | Copeland, I'm so used to laughing at the things in my heart | | The Police Last of all I'm sorry 'cos you never asked for this | | //\\//\\ I can see I'm not your type and my shot will always miss" | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Wed May 17 07:07:51 1995 Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 07:07:50 -0400 From: GrecianUrn@aol.com Subject: Sundry items Hi hi hi all my delightful little pinkies ... oops, sorry, thought I was OnToriAmos for a second there... : ) I have many things to address, envelopes not being one of them: 1) Hey OnTori, look what we started with our metal tiff! Hurrah for heavy metal! Hurrah for speed metal! Slow metal! Even glam metal! Long live Cind erella! Long live Warrant! And Skid Row, and Poison, and Slaughter, and L.A. Guns, and Winger ... no, death to Winger... 2) Y'all remember my delirious post about meeting Tori back in February when she played on Jay Leno's show? When I offered to marry her and she hugged me? Well, I FINALLY got the film developed, and AACK! There's the divinely elfin-looking Miss T smirking for the camera, her shoulder TOUCHING MY CHEST, and I'VE GOT MY EYES CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!! 3) I had lunch today with my dear neighbors Tina/Miss Kitty and her fiance, as well as Tina's parents, who are visiting from out of state. (Which state apparently depends on what time of year it is.) Anyway, we went to the IHOP across the street, Tina looking quite resplendent in her Tori shirt (the one with all the boxes), and the waitress asked her, innocently enough, "Is that you on your shirt?" You should have seen the DELIGHT on that woman's face to be mistaken for TORI ... I personally think she looks not a bit like Tori. (But that's not a bad thing, Kitty darling, if you're out there!) I think she looks like a cross between Brooke Shields and Juliette Lewis ... meow! 4) I was in line at the drive-through at Taco Bell today, and the bill was $6.53, and I had EXACTLY 53 cents in change on me! It made me so happy... M(ik)E -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Wed May 17 08:01:19 1995 From: "LaVeta R. Pfaff" <lpfaff@pen.k12.va.us> Subject: heeelp Date: Wed, 17 May 95 8:01:17 EDT it seems that i have been unsubscribed. can i please get back on? andrea, if you see this lemme know. lost, confused, and mourning for the loss of my rdt... kahlil - - /=========================================================================\ | "For the world's more full of weeping than you can understand..." | | --W.B. Yeats, The Stolen Child | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | lpfaff@pen.k12.va.us or kpfaff@freenet.fsu.edu :) | \=========================================================================/ -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Wed May 17 09:31:10 1995 Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 09:31:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Epitome Jukes <epitome@grove.ufl.EDU> Subject: Red hair Mime-Version: 1.0 Some people have been wondering why so many Tori fans have dyed red hair. I can only speak for myself, and I know my reason is because red is such a powerful, dramatic color for hair, and it can be funky and outrageous, but not overly outlandish like blue or green. Tori is not the reason that I dye it red, but I must admit that she enforces my love for it as a wonderful, dramatic and interesting color for hair. What about the rest of you? -Carrie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "You're just an empty cage girl if you kill the bird" -Tori Amos "FEMINISM: the radical notion that women are people" -anonymous ************************* Epitome@grove.ufl.edu ************************* ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Wed May 17 09:54:38 1995 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 06:52:37 -0700 Return-Receipt-To: Will_Elefante@corp.dialog.com From: Will_Elefante@corp.dialog.com (Will Elefante) Subject: Non-Tori (pj Harvey) Just to let all of you PJ Harvey fans (and I know there are a lot of you on this list) know, PJ Harvey is featured on the 'Batman Forever' soundtrack. Got this Info on the Batman Forever Web page. (http://batmanforever.com/welcome/welcome.html/) Will -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Wed May 17 10:28:39 1995 Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 10:28:44 -0400 (EDT) From: numb <HOFFMANM@OPUS.NCSSM.EDU> Subject: college kids...fun days....back home.... -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Wed May 17 10:39:32 1995 Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 10:36:58 -0400 From: OnToriAmos@aol.com Subject: OnToriAmos on TORI AMOS since you guys seem to be playing with this notion of "why rdt-ers love TORI" at the moment i offer one pinkies perspective... why do i love and adore TORI AMOS? let me count the ways... i wish sometimes i could disassociate me from myself and hear TORI from a non-musicians perspective. i wonder how different she would appear to me? but alas when i listen from the only vantage point i have, i become inspired and my curiousity is aroused to new heights. i'll hear a little piano passage and wonder how did she play that? then i fetch my guitar and attempt to transpose the elloquence of her dancing notes which if you're familiar with the differences between guitar and piano approaches is sometimes like trying to skateboard down a mountain of sand... maybe that's a big part of my attraction to the goddess TORRIFICA-that she forces me to look at my instrument and the world in a different way. besides playing and frolicking about in my band Little Earthquakes i am also in the process of writing a book which will have all kinds of yay neat stuff in it and i'm thinking of ways to make it new and different and without giving too much away i can tell you that it will be an interactive book that will come with a CD-rom which will make the words and poems more 3-D and alive. one of the things that i'm planning to include in this yay neat book is a little stream of conciousness something i wrote for TORI which is best way i know how to translate to her and to you guys why i adore the great red one... i posted a very raw and ugly version of this child some months ago and have since nurtured it along and brought the essecnce of the images to the surface so they can all sit nicely on a page of the book and even a someone who doesn't know TORI would get it. "why do i love TORI AMOS?" because she makes me feel enough to write something like this: Tori Stream As the blood washes through my fingers the pain subsides like the ocean moving away from the ugly side of life the dolphins are safe so far from this and somehow I know the whales will protect them it's so clean for them out there and freedom never lingers... still here I sit locked in my dusty room-my knees hurt from begging for forgiveness and somehow I doubt deaf ears are hardly concerned with words so pure and true never will the rain wash away something that the snow can only cover for a while but melting is part of dying or is it when you feel the most alive? Providing me some sense of solace when looking past the ugly ones with their motives so transparent and futile I see her-shes right over there next to me though the distance isnt exactly clear the candles all burning brightly outline her shape I dont want to speak out loud for my passion might consume me but I can whisper if everyone looks the other way... as my lips form the shape about to break a promise I never made I try to go unnoticed when I call Tori by name of course they always hear me but it is a fortunate coincidence that their mouths are stuffed full of my Grandma Bandy's fresh egg noodles with the gravy dripping onto their laps so they surrender that interference is not an option... those big ears of hers they heard me too which is all I ever intended and her eyes indicate that its not so foolish to speak someones name in fact it builds a very nice bridge between 2 souls dont you think? So she begins to spin around and I'm laughing because she's so free and freedom is better than soap I wish that God would have made her hair that shade of red as a free gift since it suits her fancy so well... shes spinning faster now I almost want to look away but I can't and just then her hair brushes up against my face as the sun reflects on every strand it looks like fire but my face doesnt seem to burn it simply passes like a textured wind as she spins a little more I begin to cry tears of something beyond joy because in her hair I smelled something for the very first time it's a smell that I want to be able to hold in my hand and put in my pocket it smells like truth pure and white or maybe it was purple either way I dont mind... she has to practice now even though that piano is so big I think she might want to crawl inside and take a short nap I'm glad she forgot her shoes so now I can trace the shape of her beautiful toes and kiss them gently... she likes that it makes her play those funny happy songs for hours which is fine since shes the only one who makes it smell like truth in here and she always smells so good which is all the proof I need to know im not dreaming if you want to find out more about LE (the band) or the yay neat book you can subscribe to the Little Earthquakes mail group by sending your e-mail address to LEisShakin@aol.com bye-bye -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Wed May 17 12:15:53 1995 Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 19:14:57 +0400 (EET DST) From: Ozgur Ogret <ogret@bilkent.edu.tr> Subject: Comics.. Mime-Version: 1.0 HI All! I've been missing for a little time ,because of my 2 week holiday.Its over now. I found one of my articles in my school bag today about the affects of comics on people ,it was my weekwork about 2 months ago.I want to share it with you ,of course I waiting for your comments also...Here it is: EFFECTS OF COMICS ON PEOPLE Almost everybody know something about comics.But most of them dont pay attention to them.In fact,they are one of the most important influences of our childhood. Most of the people meet comics when they are a little child.While reading,they start to learn the right and the wrong.They meet the bad guys,good guys and some strange events.In our subconscious,ideas take shape.We can say that comics give some hidden messages.The comics companiesknow that and they used this a lot.We see the best examples through the World War II.During the 1940's the heroes of the capitalist world fought with the Nazis and the Japaneses.For example,the famous heroes of Marvel Inc. namely Submariner,Human Torch,Captain America and many others killed so many enemies; so companies created lots of capitalist prophaganda.American citizens infected by nationalism.Comics were like an invisible power.Many people never thought about this factor,however,in that time comics' ratings were over thousends of issues. In our age,comics are one of the departments of Graphic Arts and most of them got more quality.Artists do really great works.The themes of the comics have changed in two ways:One of them is about children;heroes give some messages about alcohol,smoking,drugs,child abuse and problems in families.Once Superman said"Never say yes to a cigarette!"Spider Man claimed"Your body belongs to you.If you dont want it,dont let them to touch it"They also got more social.Spider Man even married.The heroes of today are more down-to-earth than ever.The other type of comics is for adults.These are more violent and more obscene ones.Because of these types of comics,lots of authotories started an anti-comics propaganda in the previous years.Anyway,comics business is a huge industry.Especially in the USA and Japan,comic sales are measured by millions. Consequently,we cant say that comics do not affect people.Some countries think about this more seriously; USA has a cencorship system called "The Comics Code".In my opinion,it is not necessery ,because if a comic book affects your behaviours this showsyou can get effected by anything.This only shows the weakness of your personality. Well, Thats all folks.I know its not enough for an article about comics but this is just a homework. Take care... Keremcan.. "Life without me would be even more unbearable"-Lestat -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Wed May 17 12:58:37 1995 Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 19:57:58 +0400 (EET DST) From: Ozgur Ogret <ogret@bilkent.edu.tr> Subject: Rape.. Mime-Version: 1.0 Hello me,Its me again, I want to know more detail about rape of Tori.Please dont understand me in a wrong way;I always hear somethings about this,but I really have no knowledge about this f'ckin' event.Please mail me... ogret@ug.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr Take care.. "Life without me would be even more unbearable"-Lestat -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Wed May 17 13:18:05 1995 Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 13:18:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Epitome Jukes <epitome@grove.ufl.EDU> Subject: Natural Born Killers Mime-Version: 1.0 Wintermute: You said that you couldn't believe the violence in {Oliver Stone's} mind, when you watched Natural Born Killers, when the waitress was killed. Cute reference! :) However, not that I'm a big Ollie Stone fan, but the violence all came from the mind of the writer, Quentin Tarrantino. If you don't know what I mean watch Reservior (sp?) Dogs or True Romance and you'll understand, those films were both written entirely by him. Tarrantino also uses violence for an effect, not just for its own sake- the violence he uses is there to make a point, since people are laughing at the violent scenes when they watch his films (maybe you don't, but I know when I watched those films the theatre would be in hysterics during the most gruesome and violent parts), he makes people question, is it just the film that is violent, or is it me that is violent because I'm laughing/enjoying this film? Think about it that way and you'll see where the scenes make more sense. -Carrie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "You're just an empty cage girl if you kill the bird" -Tori Amos "FEMINISM: the radical notion that women are people" -anonymous ************************* Epitome@grove.ufl.edu ************************* ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Wed May 17 13:34:45 1995 Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 13:32:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Harris <mharris@injersey.com> Subject: _More Pink_ Advice, Goddess Quotes, and More Mime-Version: 1.0 Hello, all. I need some advice. A local compact disc store is offering a copy of _Under the Pink_ along with tracks from her New Zealand and Australian tours, along with B-sides, under the name _More Pink_, as a two CD set for $38. Is this a good purchase? I think my favorite quote, La Donna, by Tori has to be one that was posted on here a few days ago: "You will find once you choose truth and light, love and responsibility, then you are in command and control of your life." Another favorite, from 'Tori's Transcript' (a bit too long for you, though, I'd guess): "I encourage you to hone your skills, whatever your creative craft is. [...] Um, the craft is something where if you think you're talented, then you've got it all wrong. And if you think everything you do doesn't need improvement, hmph (laughs) you've got it all wrong too. And that's okay. To try and find this balance, the happy balance. Instinct. They don't teach you that in school. They don't teach you that tone: to create and move people to do things that you can never imagine. [...] So what I'm asking you all to think about, really, right now ... whether you are gonna be burglars, or lawyers, or thieves, whatever, please be good at it (laughter), but I want you to find your own Tone. Not my tone, because it won't do you any good. And not the person next to you that you think is so bitchin', their tone, because it's not your bitchin' tone. It's really, really important that you find that place, because all the information in the world will not give you power. [...] It's something about a creative force. Not about a famous person. [...] Creative Forces, there are not a lot of them out there. There are not a lot of them making music, or making films, or making medicine, or anything else. The most important tool I can give you is to spend fifteen minutes alone everyday. [...] Close the door and take that time to be *real* with yourself. I mean *really* *real*. I mean *so* real, that there's no censorship. Think about that." Steve the Sweet Fat Man, I thought "My So-Called Life" was on MTV for a whole other month? Did ABC cancel it still? My goodness, I suppose if NBC was dumb enough to cancel their most popular hit of the '60s, then ABC is dumb enough to repeat the same mistake ... Well, folks, after a brief three-hour ordeal as a survey dude ("Would you like to take a survey?"), it was decided on high that behold, this job shall be the first one that Michael shall leaveth, forever and forever, Amen. So any happy thoughts and wishes directed my way 'twould be appreciated as I fill out fifteen job applications. (Phew.) Summer jobs can be fun, but that one would've stunk. Badly. Mike -------- Next Message -------- [top] >From rdt-owner Wed May 17 13:47:04 1995 From: Anna Sunshine Ison <asison01@msuacad.morehead-st.edu> Subject: lots of soft drink junk Date: Wed, 17 May 95 13:46:55 EDT Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85.2.1] listen darlings, a word to the wise. if you're ever tempted to spill a bowl of steaming chicken soup on your arm, DOn't Do it, no matter Who says it's cool. promise me beloveds, you won't even jump on the bandwagon if tori says you should, ok? it hurts (grin) ok, lessee.. about goth and tori (no So much industrial but nice floated things like msg and peter murphey and this mortal coil.. well, You know what i mean) i can see how lots of people can like both.. because in lots of them there's the immensely emotional (yow, those words are together Way too much) voice quality and .. you know. second.. my address isn't leaving till November at which time i shall be a college girl at queens and will have another Anyway. i tell you, you're nice to people, they're nice to you. i tried to temporarily dye my hair red for halloween so i could be delirium on somedays (i have a hyphen hope and Now i know i dont' Need to change my hair to be del sometimes How could i be so foolish) and pumpkin queen sally from nightmare before christmas on others. but it just didn't Take, i guess because my hair's kinda dark to begin with. i only just had these red streaks here and there. i did Not look like the model is what i'm saying. and part of me really wants to dye it like Blue or Green so i could be a magic mermaid elf-queen. but i haven't the courage because i'm afraid to ruin my hair. hey fiona, i Don't mean this in a mean way one bit. but kevin and i thought it would be AWfully cool if ambitori was bits and pieces of piano playing and then a voice-over complaining about people who talk about communing with the fairies instead of tori and lots of nice crumudgeonly stuff about reverse-moderation. i think it would be Nice. famous people? well, i know johnny depp's cousin ginger (and one day i said, Ginger, i think you should tell johnny for his next movie to have a tori song if she doesn't mind." MAn, i came SO CLose. no, i'm sorry, that's a lie, but wouldn't it have been Hilarious if i Was responsible. but i Do know ginger.) and my friend ula's best lithuanian friend is the president of lithuania's niece. and i know neil gaiman's personal assitant. (sweet smile.) and Speaking of our king gryphon (i swear to you all, no spoilers) in sandman 69 (no spoilers i Promise) you know the little poem? the one that ends you can be me when i'm gone? i've Seen that Before but i can't think where. maybe i made it up. anyone know? lovelovelove spanisheyed sunshine --- End of messages --- To post messages on really-deep-thoughts send them to really-deep-thoughts@gradient.cis.upenn.edu or rdt@gradient.cis.upenn.edu To change or remove your subscription to Really-Deep-Thoughts please send mail to really-deep-thoughts-request@gradient.cis.upenn.edu or rdt-request@gradient.cis.upenn.edu Other administrative requests should be sent to really-deep-thoughts-owner@gradient.cis.upenn.edu or rdt-owner@gradient.cis.upenn.edu Archives and a discography are available by anonymous ftp from ftp.uwp.edu, in the directory /pub/music/lists/rdt. - -Anthony (mailing-list-owner)

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