RDT Archive - rdt-digest V1 #51

rdt-digest V1 #51

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*********************************************************************** Please send unsubscribe messages to rdt-request@novia.net DO NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list --- they will be ignored *********************************************************************** rdt-digest Tuesday, 25 July 1995 Volume 01 : Number 051 PULPmaniacs Discrepancy in Tori's timeline Re: rdt-digest V1 #45 Clarifying a clarification Priority: normal hair It's Getting Bad to Be Big The fairies are telling all of my secrets lots and lots of stuff (well, not really) "Excuse me, while I kiss this guy..." To a troll, from a fairy Re: rdt-digest V1 #50 If I had a hammer.. delurking... Bringing up an old topic Robots (parody of UtP track 2) Idiot Alanis Bashers there is magic in huntington serendipity and blahblahblah panties! gay people/gay acts and other ramblings... Gack. hollywood....dadadadadadada Crucify live Box for Auction ruminations tori/\/\aniacs School House Rock + Tori content VOX Re: #2(4) rdt-digest V1 #50 Who's ragging on Anna? SUICIDE SUGGESTIONS Re: #4(4) rdt-digest V1 #50 skeepa skeepa! HeinleinPratchettYankovic experimenting w/other artists sarah's tips ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [top] From: Zooberries@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 00:17:50 -0400 Subject: PULPmaniacs Lots of people have been writing me to ask what QT said were the 3 things that could of been on the Briefcase in PF, In Simon Gleave's Essay: QT and his films he says: 1. What is contained in the briefcase? There is no real answer to this and Tarantino has actually said that he didn't know what to put in the case so he decided to leave it to the viewers to decide. However, it has been suggested that it contains [ONE:]'the evil that men do' and as the combination of the briefcase is 666, I'm prepared to go with this. Well, that's just one of the things. I had another Exerpt from an article that contradicts this by quoting QT as saying that there are 3 definite things. TWO: the Championship Belt. THREE: the Holy Grail. ------------------------------ [top] From: NTBoundary@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 01:10:19 -0400 Subject: Discrepancy in Tori's timeline Hi pinkies, sorry this is so long, but something must be said. If you have difficulty with the content in this post, do NOT start a flame war but instead preservethe peace [,love and Tori] by simply scrolling on and enjoying the rest of the digest. Thank you It has come to my attention that in issue # 7 of Really Deep Thoughts fanzine, the Caldwells published a flawed version of the Al Stewart interview. The interview was printed in the fanzine with four typos, along with a major transcription error, causing Al Stewart's album titles to be listed out of order. There were improperly hyphenated words, incorrect punctuation, and radical changes were made to the structure and content of the interview. detracting from the flow and enjoyment of the piece. Al Stewart gets very little publicity these days, and it's a shame that this interview was presented so poorly. All of you reading this have your own minds make up. You should not allow yourself to be swayed by other people's opinions. See for yourself, obtain the original version from Jack Schwab as I did [via a Goldmine advertisement]and read both versions. There really is no comparison. Jack's version is far superior to the fanzine versionand if any of you reading this are fans of Al Stewart or Tori Amos, ypu owe it to yourself to read Jack's definitive version of his Al Stewart interview. I should also point out that Jack went to the trouble and expense to make printed copies of his original transcript, not photocopies. These are copies printed on a press, a quality presentation (not cheap.) When you add up 7 sheets collated together, $4.00 is not unreasonable. Again, his address is P.O. Box 19762, Sacramento CA 95819. so shoot me if this upsets anybody...sorry Sharon Woods ------------------------------ [top] From: Kathleen Coffin <kcoffin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 12:28:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: rdt-digest V1 #45 ffin/mail/postponed-mail/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well, I was just reading about the "i know somebody famous game" and I'd like to play! My friend's uncle is Tori's brother-in-law. She has met Tori many times and so have many of my friends because they get backstage passes and stuff. Unfortunately for me, this was before I knew who Tori was and before I was good friends with the girl, but hey it's still neat :) Love, Kacey "..he says that behind my eyes I'm hiding, and he tells me I pushed him away, that my heart's been hard to find." -Tori ***kcoffin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu*** ------------------------------ [top] From: Richard Handal <handal@access.digex.net> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 05:15:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Clarifying a clarification Holger Wahlen said: > Apologies to Richard! > > Looks like I did really step on someone's toes with my first post. I didn't take offense at anything, just wanted to clarify--mainly for those who hadn't remembered the original exchange in context. No problem. Richard ------------------------------ [top] From: "John Laibson" <JOHN@DEAN.MED.UFL.EDU> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 08:01:19 EST5EDT Subject: Priority: normal >------------------------------ > <From: FULLER2_@bentley.edu <Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 23:23:52 -0400 (EDT) <Subject: Odd Statistic problem < < Being the king of odd occurences, it is only fitting that the following <review question was handed out to my Stat class the other day. Just so you <know, this is a review problem for a Binomial Probability Distribution (as if <you care): I think i started to write this message yesterday, but got busy and never finished, but if i did finish it, i'm sorry for sending it again. Anywho, i'm way behind, so somebody may have already answered this, but is the answer: 0.5157931234375 ? j - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ John Laibson JOHN@dean.med.ufl.edu Student Admissions (904)392-4569 University of Florida College of Medicine PO Box 100216, JHMHC Gainesville, FL 32601-0216 "Rejoice, rejoice, we have no choice But to carry on." - CSN - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ [top] From: "John Laibson" <JOHN@DEAN.MED.UFL.EDU> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 08:18:01 EST5EDT Subject: hair >From: pecori@us.net (the guuuy with unidentifiable white matter in his hair) I believe this is called dandruff. j - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ John Laibson JOHN@dean.med.ufl.edu Student Admissions (904)392-4569 University of Florida College of Medicine PO Box 100216, JHMHC Gainesville, FL 32601-0216 "Rejoice, rejoice, we have no choice But to carry on." - CSN - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ [top] From: Tracy Sefl <U28904@UICVM.CC.UIC.EDU> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:00:54 CDT Subject: It's Getting Bad to Be Big ******************A Note to our Friend the List-Owner****************** I definitely would advocate breaking RDT into smaller parts; they're just getting bigger and bigger. The problems accompanying such gargantuan sizes assuredly vary among mailreaders, but nevertheless could be minimized by breaking the digest into smaller parts. Please? Also, I both enjoy people's .sigs and appreciate those who are courteous enough to know when they're excessive. And of course, it's still poor netiquette to have a .sig longer than your post, right? Just checking. Perhaps others could echo the split-digest request to our list-owner. Tori-content: In complete love w/my newest acquisition, _Upside Down_, the disc-set I'd been searching the country for! Tracy (look ma, no .sig) ------------------------------ [top] From: Sillynarf@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 11:59:55 -0400 Subject: The fairies are telling all of my secrets Yes, Todd is a fucking hot supergenius. But I was hoping that the secret would not get out, because now you will all want him to take you to the Prom. ;) I am oh so very excited because on the 23rd aforementioned f.h.s.g., the cute one and I will be meeting. Also in our company will be Max, General Sherman and the Mysterious one. It will truly be a match made in Tori Heaven. And if the cute one would consent to bringing a certain Name your own Adventure videotape it would be all the more splendid. ;) ;) *nudge, nudge* I found Tori, I knew she would show up- The background on my computer screen is a zillion pictures of Tori, and when I shut down my computer she does cute things like disappear squre by square, or twirl out of existance or something playful like that. I also have it set up so that when I turn on the computer she sings "Still a pretty good year" and when it shuts off she sings "God sometimes you just don't come through." Needless to say it is a very happy place to work. Bumber stickers- One of my favorites is: Against Abortion? Get a Vasectomy! Tee-hee Tee-hee Best movie lines ever- Both from Nine Months "I must get myself a clitoris." "Doc have you been celebrating?" "Just a little, we can break open another bottle in a minute, first I must circumsize your son. Sorry I was very amused. Take care all. Love, Jenner ------------------------------ [top] From: Laura Franco <lmf7228@cml.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 13:08:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: lots and lots of stuff (well, not really) It seems that I have ruffled a few feathers here the last time I posted. I also have some other things to respond to so bear with me. To J. Scott Waters from Ottawa: I met Mr. Dressup once a couple of years ago here in Toronto. He was at the Word on the Street festival (a festival that celebrates literacy) and he was scheduled to perform a reading or two. I saw him and approached. I told him that I wsa a fan and that I loved the show and that it was a very improtant part of my life as a child. (I know that sounds stupid but it is true --- besides, how often do you meet Mr. Dressup????!!) I asked about Casey and Finnegan and he said that their puppeteers had retired so Casey and Finnegan went with them. I wish I could tell people about Simon being a short on Electric Company but I only remember taht show vaguely. Simon, in Toronto anyway, was shown on the public broadcasting channel in Ontario (TVO) in the mornings after Sesame Street and before the Polka Dot Door and it was a little show in its own right, not part of something bigger. I don't think that helps much. I was wondering ... with the latest news about the Susan Smith trial in South Carolina ... what do people think about it? What do peole think about the death penalty? What does anyone suppose Tori would think about this issue (capital punishment) since this is happening in her home state? To Patrick, the wandrering one : Move to TORONTO! It is a wonderful place to live. Now I need to use this space for a rebuttal to the responses of certain people: This is an open letter to whomever responded to my post about who listens to Tori and why: I think that there is a lot of merit in my opinion. I think that Tori's music addresses a lot of issues and that will invariably touch upon morality. I was simply putting forward one possibility as to why certain people are drawn to this music. In my (limited, I acknowledge) experience, I have *personally* known more wimmin than men to like Tori. I am not saying that Tori Amos is exclusively a womyn's singer. Wimmin do not "have a monopoly on Tori". I never said that. I never implied that. You inferred all of this from something I never said. WE could analyse your reasons for that mental leap for a while, couldn't we? Methinks so. I am thrilled that men like Tori. I am thrilled that people enjoy her music at all, regardless of gender. I think that you are nitpicking to take that one point out of my argument and go off on a tangent. I never said that men do not listen to Tori, all I said is that I know very few who do and this particular theory may shed some light on the a reason why. I mentioned this only as *ONE* option, not as GOSPEL. ====================================================== Furthermore to whom this may concern): I am not pigeonholing anyone. All I did was offer one person's analysis of what she hears. I am expressing only my opinion that I have formulated because of the material that I have been able to access in my lifetime. I am continuing to learn every day as I continue to access more new and exciting information. I am by no means an expert by any stretch of the imagination. Has anyone ever heard of context? One cannot know my experience nor my struggles; just as I cannotknow the experience of anyone else's struggles. Think about what you are going to write before you set finger to keyboard. Try to see where the other person is coming from, at least. Just because you may see the solution to something as "Y" does not mean that everyone else does. Good grief! I am not surprised to see that the only 2 people who responded negatively to what I had to say were men! I do not hate men. I hold nothing against anyone. I think that their responses prove my point. ART = INTERPRETATION. That is all. Each of us may interpret Tori's songs differently. The only one who knows what they mean is Tori herself. One can only adequately represent oneself. Anger makes a person tired. I am tired of being angry. All I have to say (after this long post) is THINK! Open your minds and think intelligently before you attack anyone's ideas. At least make an attempt to examine the entire argument before you just attempt to destroy one part of it. Poor preaparation does not a good debater make. Laura ------------------------------ [top] From: FULLER2_MATT@bentley.edu Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 13:41:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: "Excuse me, while I kiss this guy..." Misinterpreted lyrics have always been a favorite of mine, and that particular one relates to my first topic (oooh, cool segue) OPENLY GAY/BISEXUAL GROUPS: This particular post seemed to strike a negative chord with me right from the opening sentence. I'm not going to flame or anything, just try to respond to the questions posed. First, it was asked "why is it that the majority of people who go to these shows are gay?" 1) How do you know the majority are homosexual? Did I miss the straw poll at the Melissa Etheridge concert? Come on .... 2) I personally go to concerts of musicians who play music that either entertains me or speaks to me (or both). If M.E. or Indigo Girls or whoever plays music that can be positively interpreted by homosexuals (as opposed to say GNR), they why WOULDN'T homosexuals go there? I don't want to go into an environment where my views and beliefs are looked down upon, and I don't think anyone else would either. 3) Course, there's also the issue of supporting anyone who has the courage to admit to their sexuality when it runs against the "popular, conservative" culture. This thread really bugged me. Sorry, but it showed a certain level of ignorance and a thinly veiled contempt. Imagine my response if I were homosexual.... enough said. SONG IN BATMAN FOREVER: I think I read that they pulled several songs from the movie at the last minute because it didn't fit with the pacing of the movie. This is becoming very common in the film industry, and a WFNX (local station) DJ suggested that the albums be called "Music Inspired and Paid For by the Motion Picture" since it often doesn't actually appear in the movie, aside from a closing credit snippet. ALANIS = NO TALENT: I think I can sum this up with 4 letters: YKTR. ANAGRAMS: see, aren't these fun? That's all folks, go on home now, nothing more to see here. Matt Fuller ** Fuller2_Matt@Bentley.edu ------------------------------ [top] From: KZONGOLOWICZ@CMCVAX.MCKENNA.EDU Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 11:33:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: To a troll, from a fairy Patrick- Did you try the half-hour thing? Any luck- any decisions?!?! Glad I could help if only a bit. To answer your question, I decided to stay at my college SF, but c'est ma vie. Unfortunately, this particular East Coast college just wasn't where I needed to be, either. I think your particular choices are probably much more suited for you, from what I can tell. (What kind of art, I am curious?) Still, I cannot deny there aren't twinges of regret.... I have an incurable case of the "What Ifs???".... guess regret comes with the decision making process- and with BEING A GEMINI! The multi-faceted fairy and troll like creatures that we are, we just have sooooo much trouble with choosing a single road to follow. "Why can't I do BOTH?!" Can't wait to hear the conclusion- or all else before such a state is reached, Krista, the fellow, impractical, Gemini stranger. ------------------------------ [top] From: Chris Nelson <cnelson@tamos.gmu.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 15:10:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: rdt-digest V1 #50 >"Throwing Copper" cd. Does anyone else have an extra (12th I think) track on > >thier cd besides the ones listed? > yeah, I've got this too, as do many other people. I believe this song is a > cover, but does anyone know for sure? Just wanted to throw in that the extra track (#14) is called "Horse". It is not a cover, its an original. The only cover live plays often is "Supernatural", by Vic Chestnut. Live just started playing Horse in concert this past week (theyh ad only played it once or twice before in all of their touring for Throwing Copper). One other note, this one about Alanis. I went uout and bought her CD, and this is my take on everything. I think she is a fairly talented song writer, certainly for her age. I think everyone should keep in mind that Glen Ballard produced this album (what a horrible call). Glenn Ballard if my history serves me right is the same proudcer who produced Wilson Phillips. My biggest problems with her songs are that I think they are orchestrated poorly, and sometimes kind if die in the middle. Her songs aren't ful of bridges and changes. In time, with a better producer I think she is capable of putting out some great material. I also hear (and hope to soon see for myself) that is a good live act, and doesn't sound much like her album on the road. if you listen to Tori's first CD you may not think she was terribly hot stuff either...but with time she reallybecame incredible. I'm not saying Alanis is ever going to reach the point of musical talent or creativity as Tori...but I woulsdn't bash her either. Incidentally, I'll be starting a mailing list for Alanis very soon. I wil post instructions when its up and ready to go. Thats all I wanted to say ;) Chris ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ Chris Nelson - Owner of Oceans, the Pearl Jam mailing list ~ ~ * cnelson@tamos.gmu.edu * * PJ-owner@tamos.gmu.edu * ~ ~ To subscribe send e-mail to majordomo@tamos.gmu.edu with no subject and ~ ~ this message: ~ ~ subscribe oceans you@your.email.address ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *** Waves roll in my thoughts *** ------------------------------ [top] From: "Dr. Frank N. Furter" <tschmid@bgsuvax.bgsu.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 14:13:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: If I had a hammer.. Angela asked who Jamiroquai are. I don't really know how to describe acid jazz if you haven't heard it, and it's not surprising that a whole lot of people who are into industrial music can't appreciate it. I'd also recommend Mother Earth...acid jazz goes back as far as Sun-Ra at least..I've heard Kronos Quartet described as 'acid classical' if that helps. I'm very well aware that Trent Reznor knows an awful lot about music technology, and yes I've heard nin on very good sound systems. It's hard to avoid if you go out much. Hundreds of other people do what he does, and do it better. Because they are usually much more unconventional, they get largely ignored. If Madonna hired Stanley Clarke, Robert Fripp, and a whole slew of Africn drummers to play on one of her albums, it would still be a Madonna record no matter what they added to it. As for dark ambient stuff..I'm more a fan of Hyperium bands than Projekt or Cleopatra. Black Tape for a Blue Girl, Lycia, Eden, et al, are often as cheesy in their idiom as Type O Negative are in theirs. Which isn't to say I don't own a whole lot of Projekt and Cleopatra stuff. I just think those acts release too much filler on their albums. Nobody answered my 'Past The Mission' question..that's ok..I generally page right through flames too. - Dr. Frank N. Furter - A Scientist ------------------------------ [top] From: Keri Lin Csencsits <keric@strauss.udel.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 16:09:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: delurking... I've been on this list for nearly a year now, and I think I posted maybe twice, but these discussions are pulling me in, so I will take a deep breath and attempt to state a few opinions here...(I'll try and keep it short!) First, to whoever mentioned Cities of Gold - I loved that show! It was even more interesting when I spend a month in mexico learning about ancient Mayan civilization and realized tht someone producing that cartoon really did their homework. My first concert was (I'm almost ashamed to admit this) - the "Dirty Dancing" tour. Finally, I just had to share this... I went to the Sara/Cheiftans concert at the Mann in Philly on Friday. Up until that evening, I had had a horrible day at work and was just on the verge of tears all day (sometimes lab meetings can get really rough). We get to our seats in the balcony and realize that someone else is in them, AND their tickets are the same - the computer goofed. So we were escorted to BOX SEATS on the floor, right in front of the sound table! Never have I been totally overwhelmed by music as right then, the sound was perfect, and maybe it was just my state of mind, but I cried through two of Sara's songs. However, the Cheiftans were a pleasant surprise, as I had never heard of them, (although they've been together for 33 years ?!) - the whole time they played, I had this big stupid grin on my face - I guess it was that the melodies are so happy. Some of their "guest" musicians were incredible - and Sara gets to sing with them later on. So, I guess that my horrible day ended in a good way (after all, when about 1000 people aound you are dancing to an Irish folk song - you can't stay sad) And I guess I'm getting really long winded - I'll resume my lurking now... Keri P.S. IMHO, Live isn't a cheap rip-off band, maybe it's just that they're from PA as I am - but I find many of their songs to be powerful, lyrically as well as musically ( esp. "Mother Earth is a Vicious Crowd" off their first album - I love the drum beat) - they've just been played to death by the radio and MTV. Sorry! I'll shut up now! ------------------------------ [top] From: jnel@atlas.co.uk (Jai Nelson) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 95 21:18:30 BST Subject: Bringing up an old topic I appologise for digging up all these quotes from the past and forgotting you made the original quote but I was doing research thought my archived RDT digests and I found the following that I had to comment on. JWyscoff@aol.com said: >Voltron was pretty cool too. Why doesn't anyone ever mention how much >of the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers was ripped off from Voltron? (Then again, >how many people want to spend more than 2 seconds thinking about historical >sources for the Power Rangers?). and WATCHING THE RAIN <jferna03@fiu.edu> said: >as for Voltron: >- - i just sold my big 20-car Voltron for $25 to a collector after all >these years of having it on top of my desk... >- - what was the deal with the 3-robot version that was in the stores? if >you looked in the back, it showed scenes from a cartoon but i never saw >this version of Voltron in any cartoon, just the 5-tiger and 20-car >version... The answer to both these is the same. (sort of) If I've made mistakes, please forgive me, I can't remember it all so well and I'd bow to anyone of superior knowledge. In the early 80s like 1981 or 1982 the Japaneese toy compainy Bandai produced a range of toys that consisted of individual robots that joined together to form a larger one. Then came the animal version (Voltron with the four small ones tiger, leopard, jaguar and one other and the HUGE lion that was grossly out of proportion). And they also did another one in the same Voltron range made out of loads of small cars and ships. They then did the Power Ranger models which we all know and hate. These was all 13 years ago. The advertising that they used to sell it to Japaneese kids was animated sequencies of these robots fighting and also filmed footage of blokes dressed up in costumes to look like the combined robots. I assume thats where the cartoon scenes that were on the back of the 3-robot Voltron came from. Then when Power Rangers made its come-back and was made into the TV series all they did, for the fight scenes between the robots (certainly for the first series or so) was use the advert sequences that Bandai had used. The rest was all filmed. I assume now that because of its huge success they probably film their own scenes now. I don't know. But the point is that the Power Rangers didn't rip off Voltron, it was just the next idea that Bandai had. Although PRs may have come first. But it all happened over ten years ago. Its just that PRs have made a come back. I heard a while ago that the original Power Range toys from the early 80s are worth a fortune now. Yes I know I'm sad for knowing this much about the PRs but hey, it was just one of those things that I read somewhere. Honest! Anyway, what's the point of all this, well you'll find out in my next post: ------------------------------ [top] From: jnel@atlas.co.uk (Jai Nelson) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 95 21:19:13 BST Subject: Robots (parody of UtP track 2) The following quotes were grabbed from RDT digest last week: Was it Sarat that said: >> > five tigers or jaguars or something that came together to make a big >>robot. > >whoever posted this; you're looking for Voltron. This was one of the >different voltrons that they had. Another was made from a bunch ( >something like hundreds) of little spaceships and cars coming together to >form a big robot). i wathced to much tv in my day. and certain Dr. Sandbo also commented: >>> five tigers or jaguars or something that came together to make a big >robot. > >>The only things like this I can think of are the transformers or the go-bots >(?). >I know this! Its very obscure, but my neighbors were fans. Old show called >Voltron. There were also a bunch of ships that formed another Voltron robot. I assume that there are more of you know of those Japaneese robots that were fitted together by transforming the individual robots so they connected together to form one huge robot. Of course you all do. You've been discussing the Voltron series recently and you've all surely seen Power Rangers (Reply: Of course we've seen Power Rangers, and don't call us Shirley!) Okay I'm also assuming that some of you owned them, or knew someone who owned a set. So at the request of Ryan, here's a parody of God, expressing an adults confusion at these toys and the insanity of the creators choice of just how to connect the pieces together. Or something like that anyways :-) Robots (a parody of God by Tori Amos) ^^^^^^ God sometimes these toys just don't go together God sometimes these toys just don't go together Do you need someone with the instruction manual? God sometimes these toys just don't go together Bandai make pretty robots, pretty robots, Ohh I gotta find, find out how on earth you, work,these, things See, them on TV Gets a little tricky, hey I gotta find, find out why the head seems to go up the robot's ass? God sometimes these toys just will not work God sometimes these toys just will not work Do you need a look at the instruction manual? God sometimes these toys just will not work Tell me they're only toys, maybe then I'll understand You got your 5, 5 animals making up Voltron, but thats just one Heard, you've got others made from spaceships and cars? I gotta find, find, find where the hell this bit goes and what on earth it does Will you even tell us, if you decide to rerelease the Power Rangers? Will you even tell us, if you decide to rerelease Voltron? God why isn't it easy like in the cartoons? God why isn't it easy like in the advert Do you need someone with the instruction manual? God sometimes these toys just don't go together Do you need a look at the instruction manual? God sometimes these toys just don't work - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - thanx to Ryan Scarbough (flames to him, it was his idea :-) and of course Miss Amos without you would never have had to read all that. (-: <-: Copywrong 1995 illitrate Publicashions Lymatid :-> :-) - -- --- Appologies for any breechies of netiquette.. ... | | . \ ` ' / |"Everybody's hands are in their pockets | Jai Nelson | ._` __^__ '_. | Everybody wants a box of chocolates | jnel@atlas.co.uk | [()=()] | Or s long stemed rose | | /_____\ | and everybody knows" | | | - Leonard Cohen ------------------------------ [top] From: Cory Qualey <qualey@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 15:32:36 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Idiot Alanis Bashers I hate ignorant, uninformed, close-minded people. I saw Alanis last night in Minneapolis. It was one of the best shows I have EVER seen. (I've seen Tori twice and both shows bit.) I love Tori a lot, but I am objective and not blind to the rest of the musical world and expression. Open your ears. She is a very gifted singer (better than Tori on a skill level--I taught vocal lessons) and she has much to offer. If you don't like her, that is one thing. Saying someone is talentless is another. Wake up. And as for people complaining about Alanis being on this list, I seem to remember a little artist named Tori Amos who was discussed all the time on the Kate Bush newsgroup before she got her own... "May the | | Cory Qualey--qualey@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu farce be |_/--\_| Audio Production Engineer with you" |-\--/-| Funkhouse Recording Studios | | Fargo, ND ------------------------------ [top] From: RAMAN1@MARSHALL.EDU Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 16:43:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: there is magic in huntington hey everyone, just thought that i'd share my magical day with you. actually it was yestereve ( which would have been monday night). i was rather annoyed that i would not be able to see the chieftens and sarah in cinncinnati ( and even moreso disturbed that iw ould not meet anna sunshine :( ). instead of moping which seemed like an awful good idea, i went running. for the first time in my life, this turned out to be a good idea. well running wasn't too much fun, but it was exhausting and purging. i felt cleaner afterwards, if you know what i mean. well i went wandering around our park after running and it was amazing. Everything was crisper and clearer than normal. the colors of the trees and the grass were more vivid and the clarity of bird-song was almost overwhelming. all of a sudden i noticed that i wandered to the middle of the park where sits a ring. in the center of this ring were plants, quickly overpopulating the small section separating them from the rest of the park by a circular walk. Around this walk is a large circular stone bench. the backs of which hide the inside so that it seems secreted away. I realized for the first time just how druidic this whole structure was. it was rather inspiring. This ring is also a place from which it is easy to climb a particular tree. This tree is such a part of history with many names carved into it (a practice of which i am not fond, but in this case it was very beautiful), you could feel the other people in the tree with you. After i came down i wandered over to the arches in the front of the park. On one side of the arches is a wall about 5' tall. by climbing this wall it is easy to reach the top of the arches, which i did. I barely had a chance to sit down on the arch support furthest from the wall, when a pigeon flew over and landed not 5 inches from me. the pigeon just stood there and cocked one eye up in my direction and checked me out. I did the same. we had this tense relationship going and i decided that at least one of should try to break the ice. So i turned to him and said hello. he continued to look at me, the n turned away. instead of flying off he walk to the other support of the arch and sat exactly opposite to me. we hung out for a while just watching all the other people. as for tori content... well who do you think went running with me? well actually, i went running and she just sang ( and played). listening to her music i find strength not only in her, but in me as well. btw, i am going to visit some cousins in san jose, CA. I think i'll be headed out there around the beginning of august. Are there any RDTers out there? i'd loved to know what's going on around out there then ( music-wise) and maybe hey we can get together and kick it around. trees and pigeons sarat ------------------------------ [top] From: Anna Sunshine Ison <asison01@msuacad.morehead-st.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 95 16:55:18 EDT Subject: serendipity and blahblahblah hi Cuties! i hope all you people loved your sarah show and really i'm not bit- ter because i've decided that i am a charmed quark and so my life is weird and i'm sure there will be a string of coincidences so much that i'll never even know i missed it. i'm sure Some of you also got to see tori on october eighth but i'm even Less bitter about that because a started a friendship on that day with someone who has played tori's harpsichord so i'm not worrying. Anyway, in case you are all wondering about what has been going On in my life (weirdness, et al) i'll be happy to oblige. First of all i went to take my driver's test yesterday because, as shawn and i know, fourth time's a charm. the lowest score you can get and pass is seventyfive percent and i'm sure you all will believe me completely when i tell you that is Exactly what i got. i also got a bit of a talking to by my instructer that boiled down to.. "i have to pass you but if you kill yourself somehow, don't blame me." Then i went to get hot chocolate at our coffeeshop/bookstore/hallmark and randy the bookstore man said "sunshine! do you want a job for the day?" which is how i found myself being miss hallmark card and organizing "how do i love you? with all the contents of my heart" cards for eighthours and returning this morning to finish up And getting a job in owensville on saturday doing exact- ly the same thing. and i've discovered a secret. you know how you see people doing really menial jobs for hours and you wonder how they can bear it? it's all because of scanners. you just pretend you're in a b movie and aim at will. from now on, i'd like to be addressed as Lasergirl. then today i stopped at a garage sale and the old lady looked at me and said "are you anna ison?" (i didn't start going by sunshine till sixth grade> and it turned out she was miss baker, my elementary school lunchroom attendant. and Then i came home and there was a postcard from paris which basically amounted to "my name is jack, you don't know me, i'm sixteen years old." only it was in french... weiiiiird. ok, tori question my good fellows. Kevin says that baker baker is a sequel to me and a gun. is this true? anyone care to explain? please please my mousies? and One More thing. does anyone read hellblazer? because i Want to but i don't have hte money to support any More of my comics habit but is that the green man on the newest cover? Please tell me because you may not knwo it but that's Intensely cool. lovelovelove Lasergirl ------------------------------ [top] From: markmc@che.che.tulane.edu (Mark McCormick) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 15:00:29 -0600 Subject: panties! Elizabeth <esander@uoft02.utoledo.edu> wrote: >Oh and here's a question I'd like to throw out: If one was dared to wear >underwear to a club, do you think that a slip would qualify as underwear? > >I say YES, because I'm sure as heck not going to wear panties to a club! Do you mean you're not going to wear *just* panties or you *just* are not going to wear panties? ;-) Mark P.S. Btw, where is this club? ------------------------------ [top] From: BAFoster@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 17:06:18 -0400 Subject: gay people/gay acts and other ramblings... SnowSqwrl said.... >>lately I've seen post about fans of tori and homosexuality associated with it. My question deals with other groups who have a large gay following, the indigo girls, and melissa etheridge mainly. Both of these acts are openly gay or bisexual. Why is it that the majority of people who go to these shows are gay? It almost is like gay people are going to see them because they are gay. Of course there are those that are there because they like their music, but I find it hard to believe that this is the case for all in attendence. Any other thoughts?<< Well, I am a bi-leaning-towards-lesbian female (gosh, I love starting out a post with my sexual orientation as if that was the most important thing I had to say...) and I do like the groups you mentioned....I think it certainly has a great deal to do with their music...like, for instance, Sophie B. Hawkins is gay, and I wouldn't go to one of *her* concerts just for that reason, cause I don't happen to like her music. There are probably some people who go to those concerts just because the act is gay/bisexual, but to my way of thinking, $20 or $30 for a concert ticket is a lot to spend just to say "look, I'm seeing a gay/lesbian act! wow! what a profound statement about my sexuality!" :) I would wager a guess that *most* people who go to the concerts heard the music first, and then found out the artist was gay and decided to support them, for whatever reason. *shrug* my $0.02....personally, an artist's sexual preference/opinion makes little or no difference to me, unless the artist is blatantly homophobic (or racist or sexist or whatever else), in which case I won't go to their concerts but that's a totally different subject and not what you asked anyway. :) ObligaTori content: I need some help from you knowledgable people out there (at least those who have bothered to read this far!!)...I'm about to make a Tori purchase and before I spend $25-$30 bucks on an import CD I wanna know which ones are best. Here are my choices: Toronto 1992 $24.95 A Message For Your Heart 23.95 The Gipsy 24.95 Under The Pink (2-CD set) 26.95 Whole Lotta Teen Spirit 23.95 I was kinda leaning toward the 2-cd of UTP, but I have UTP already and several of the singles, so is it really worth it? Anyone know anything about these? (and BTW, if you want any of them, let me know and I can tell you where I'm getting them.) Thanks guys and girls....be happy.... Faery Barbara ------------------------------ [top] From: Kathleen Burnett <kburnett@paul.rutgers.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 95 17:09:13 EDT Subject: Gack. I hate trying to figure what to put in the first line almost as much as I hate thinking of subject lines, so this is my first line....:) A couple fo threads (If I was smart I'd quote the questions, but no, I have to delete the digests right after I finish reading them *sigh*).... Sign - Aries (March 23) What I "wanted to be when I grow up" - Well, I wanted to be lots of stuff. When I was in Kindergarten and 1st grade, I wanted to be president, a baseball player for the San Francisco Giants, a movie star, and a rock-n-roll star. Actcually, a couple of friends and I made our own band, the Hangers. We'd imagine that we wore shirts with pictures of hangers made out of glitter on them. I played abacus (sp...you know, for math. I had 2 and thought they were musical instruments), Peter played a guitar he made out a shoe box and rubber bands, Alex banged on the walls for drums, and Kit sang. We wrote several songs...umm...well, I wrote "The Rock-n-Roll Monster", about this monster who ate rock-n-roll, so he got thrown out in the trash, and "The Man in teh Black Hate", about a man in a black hat....Peter wrote a song about a mean dragon. Heh. :) My sister Jera rather odd - when she was 3 she wanted to be "a starfish, and a fisherwoman in her spare time." Oh! I have a story. On sunday, I went to Six Flags something-or-other (n NJ) with my dad and my sister. It was.....interesting.First off, I was up all night on Saturday reading a really cool book, so by the time we got there at around 11 AM I was exausted. Everyone there seemed to have several parts of their bodies pierced, and numerous tatoos as well. The only 2 I remember specifically were this guy at the line to buy tickets, who had a guy with a rifle and a confederate flag, and several naked woman all over his arms, and another guy who had a swasticka. Siiiiiigh. And I had to sit next to him on a ride! I, on the other hand, looked pretty much like a dork - I had an Oscar the Grouch shirt on, and no neo-fascist tatoos. The high point was a water ski show, which was desperatly trying to be funny. The "plot" was that these bad guys who were dressed in plack and motorcycle helmets, and were led by the Oblitorator wanted to destroy Atlantis, and so they had a water ski competition - if Atlantis lost, than the Oblitorator would dump pollution on Atlantis. It rather reminded me of pro wrestling. After a while on the rides, they closed everything down for a couple minutes because it was lightly drizzling. It stopped in a couple minutes, and a half hour they reopened everything. My dad was convinced we just had to go on the long ride for the third time. The line was reallly huge, and we were stuck behide these idiots....there was a woman, about 40, her daughter, about 5, and her son and his friend, who looked about 8....They were apparently visiting friends or relatives in NJ, but the dad was really sick. The mother kept saying over and over, "If he's sick, we'll have to go home." The son was angry about that, and was convinced that he was faking it, so he kept threatening to run away and live at the amusment park. The daughter was crying, and the friend kept telling the son that if he talked to his momma like that, he'd be so deep in trouble he'd drown. So basically, we were trapped behind these people for over an hour in extreme heat and humidity, I was dying of thirst, and to top it all off my dad kept making corny jokes to my sister. Fuuuuuun, huh? :P Also, has Megadeth recently played in central NJ? There were like 15 people with Medagdeth t shirts on.... Well, that's all. Spam Spam. :) ------------------------------ [top] From: China46917@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 19:00:51 -0400 Subject: hollywood....dadadadadadada hi everyone, that heading has nothing to do with anything, i just have that stuck in my head. i actually remember alanis morissette on "you can't do that on television"! she had kind of short straight brown hair and i can't remember if she had braces or not, but the reason i remember her is because i always thought her name was atlantis and i wondered why her parents decided to name her after an ocean or a lost underwater city. does anyone else remember her (or am i the only one who used to watch that ridiculous show and Enjoy it)? speaking of old tv shows, my favorites were... - -he-man - -thundercats - -the muppet show (and it's So Great that it's returning!!) - -looney tunes - -jem and the holograms (hey sunshine, go grab the tape and we can sing the Theme Song for them!) i agree with whoever said the movie "troll" scared them when they were a wee one, i had nightmares forever, i still do sometimes and it's not even scary anymore. that wolf thing on "the never-ending story" really got me, too.... i forget who said they live in huntington and it being a bible belt, but a few weeks ago, i traveled through huntington and every five miles or so, there were these three crosses just sitting ominously on a hill. the middle one was yellow, i think, and the other two were white and they were supposed to remind everyone that christ died for our sins or something, but they were just fuckin' scary. i felt like they were following me. oooh, i don't think i could take living there, i practically had to cover my eyes every time we passed them. i wasn't scared of the message they were conveying, just the crosses themselves, so i hope no one took that the wrong way. dr. sandbo is right, better than ezra's cd is So very good, i love it! and sunshine dear, you're not the Only one who loves the cocteau twins. they're one of my favorite bands! and the really cool girl named tizzy who works at the record store in olympia loves them too, so see, you're not the only one. i think there's more of us hiding somewhere. and i don't think they sound a bit like tori at all. they sound much more surreal to me. i just cannot understand what they're saying most of the time! and to whoever mentioned bananarama, i believe it was lisa, just remember the all too crucial line, "i'm your venus, i'm your fire, your desire!" god, it's embarassing to admit i Listened to them! ugh....ok, i'm off now. wow, look at this, there's just too much tori in here! => oh wait, what was that sign? was it ~ ? whatever, all these symbols are just getting too damn complex for me to keep up with them! hugs to all of you, kirsten ------------------------------ [top] From: fuzzbox@world.std.com (Void Angel) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 19:31:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Crucify live Box for Auction My friend is auctioning off her Crucify Limited edition Box CD. It is open, but is otherwise in perfect condition, with the prints included. Minimum bid is $50. (if you're crazy enough) buyout bid is $120 Mail all bids to me at fuzzbox@world.std.com Bidding closes Saturday, at noon, EST. I'll contact the winner and make arrangements for shipping, etc... Good luck... - -- Jason Bilsky- fuzzbox@world.std.com "I suppose you want a more sophisticated answer than "To get you in bed."?" http://world.std.com/~fuzzbox/fuzzbox.html -Ross Geller ------------------------------ [top] From: Angela_Martin@corp.dialog.com (Angela Martin) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 16:47:07 -0700 Subject: ruminations there's a tradition that God can be seen in the color red in the lights that come from from red hair they draw you, don't they? - Rumi, 12th century muslim mystic poet cool. angela ------------------------------ [top] From: Zooberries@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 20:55:05 -0400 Subject: tori/\/\aniacs Speaking of Tribute albums there's a Joy Division one that's supposed to come out and it has lots of nifty people on it but the only group i can remember is Mazzy Star. >Does anyone know what Neil Gaimen is doing after Sandman finishes :'( A series with Charles Vess titled: STARDUST. it's an adult fantasy. i've heard it'll be text with illustrations. Launch date: 1997. >Oh, i do, there are plenty of bands who decide to change merely so they can >earn more money. Look at U2. Ohh!! this drives me Nuts. Listen i've heard this Damn Argument for years now. If i hear that U2 sold out shit again i'll shoot somebody. REM could be acussed of the same. If they don't do "find The river" in concert when i go, Stype becomes a bald head full of ketchup. so when you read about it in the paper it WAS me. **SO if Tori decided to tour with a BAND and have instrumentations in ALL her songs and does like 3 duets will she be concidered a sell out?*** Yellow Leadbebetter silly. Andrea help me out here will ya? "Howard Roark laughed." ------------------------------ [top] From: "susan chase" <susan_chase@mail.amsinc.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 95 18:15:04 EST Subject: School House Rock + Tori content VOX Howdy RDTers, I have some news on the School House Rock front. I was mentioning these discussions to my sister. She said that last Saturday she was accidently watching ABC cartoons and saw one of the School House Rock blurbs. It was the Electricity.. eeeelectricity... Maybe if we glue ourselves to the TV Saturday mornings (once again) we will see some more. I just want to say thanks to y'all, you make me laugh. Its especially great to read 2 or 3 digests on a lousy Monday morning. Although, I'm going crazy with all this Alanis stuff... I know I know I could just stop reading... then I'd miss the rest! I actually halted my channel surfing last night on MTV News cause they mentioned her and showed her picture... I hope y'all aren't being paid by her record company, if so you probably deserve a raise. :) :) Oh, I guess I better have some tori content :).... There was a mix up at VOX and they sent me another issue of May 94 with Tori "Queen of the Nerds" on the cover. Its probably better to sell here than try to send it back... Any takers? Or trades for other hard to find stuff? e-me... It also has the free CD with 20 tracks from Chrysalis Record Label artists. NO TORI. New sig? ---- I was silent all these years. ---- ---- Now I'm taking to the sky. ME ---- See ME could mean me or Myra Ellen but M.E. wouldn't be saying that would she? Tori maybe but not as M.E. I need to go home... Susan ------------------------------ [top] From: Patrick698@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 22:03:27 -0400 Subject: Re: #2(4) rdt-digest V1 #50 >From: Eric Higbee <ehigbee@epix.net> > >- -----PATRICK > >This is the advice I have for Patrick over the SF and NY decision he has >to make. This an excerpt from the "The Fountinhead" by Ayn Rand......... > "How can you let other decide for you." Hi Eric! I would never let others decide for me. If I did that I would be miserably working in insurance, setttled in Connecticut, and already married with kids and a white picket fence (a nightmarish vision of 1984 magnitiude, at least for me). The decision will ultimately be mine. > > So there's my advice for Patrick. It's YOUR life, so it's YOUR decision. >I think instead of asking people to vote which one THEY would likve in, >you should of asked for advice on the cities to further help YOUR >educated decision. I was never asking people what city THEY would live in (at least I don't think thats how I worded it). I was asking for a more general sort of insight from people who either: a.) live/have lived in SF b.) live/have lived in NYC c.) have lived or spent significant time in both cities d.) just the insight of the fairies and trolls at large (which is where yours fits in and I do really appreciate it!!!) The feedback I have received has been across the board, and I get a tingling in my toes when a troll offers some input. I am not the kind of person who runs around asking everyone what I should do with my life, but I love communicating with people and I learn a great deal from what anyone can tell me about anything. And THANKS-A-MILL to all those trolls that have e-mailed me with ideas!! It's very strange, but I don't think most mailing lists include people who would be so eager to help out a fellow troll (but then this is the only list I subscribe to so what do I know?) (in a desperate plea to keep the suggestions coming, he he) ------------------------------ [top] From: Patrick698@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 22:09:26 -0400 Subject: Who's ragging on Anna? In a message dated 95-07-25 19:45:56 EDT,someone wrote: >>What's with everyone ragging on Anna Sunshine Ison? Who's ragging on Sunshine?!!!! Ragg on Sunshine and I'll be forced to take you down! (but I believe in peace...) : ) Patrick ------------------------------ [top] From: Patrick698@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 22:19:05 -0400 Subject: SUICIDE SUGGESTIONS Ok, I'll share a little ditty by writer and poet Dorothy Parker, she of the Algonquin Round Table fame (and believe me, without going into it, let's just say that this is advice I have heeded personally): ------------- Razors pain you; Rivers are damp. Acids stain you; And drugs cause cramp. Guns aren't lawful; Nooses give. Gas smells awful; You might as well live. - Dorothy Parker ------------------------------ [top] From: Patrick698@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 22:28:47 -0400 Subject: Re: #4(4) rdt-digest V1 #50 > Also, I really doubt that they moved the Twin Peaks in an >attempt to kill it. Believe me, any TV network is not going to >move a show to try to LOWER its ratings - it just doesn't happen. Ahh, but I would have to disagree here. No offense but I think this is a slightly naive view of the television industry and the entertainment industry as a whole. I have worked in the biz and believe me, this kind of stuff DOES happen. > I did see your Wrapped In Plastic comment. I've been >reading it since it began. > Talk to you all later... > Allen W Snyder Allen, question: what did you think of Fire Walk With Me? ------------------------------ [top] From: Anna Sunshine Ison <asison01@msuacad.morehead-st.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 95 22:32:10 EDT Subject: skeepa skeepa! re: the all-time favorite suicide debate, i give you: RESUME Razors pain you; Rivers are damp; Acids stain you; And drugs cause cramp. Guns aren't lawful; Nooses give; Gas smells awful; You might as well live. -dorothy parker and on to Other subjects... as far as evolution and science vs. religion, one of my absolute Favorite conversations of my childhood was.. see, my cousins are all Hyper religous pentecostalist apostolics (forgive my spelling) no hair cutting for women, only skirts, and speaking in tongues and Me, i'm an archeology-anthropology brat. so Once when we were watching some horrible eightie's tv show (hey, remember alice?) i casually mentioned that humans were animals too. and She said "well you can be a hound dog and a jaguar and a rabbit all you want and you probably are but I"m a human." as far as what we wanted to be when we grew up.. well the idea of Being a jaguar and a rabbit and a kangaroo (ok, Not so much the hound dog) always appealed to me a great deal. in FAct, they still do.. as part of the kentucky educational reform act (ok, all kentuckians in school in the past four years, groan With me now) have to turn in a gigantic portfolio and also talk about the importance of writing blahblahblah in a letter to the reviewer. so i was read- ing my lthr and got to the part about how if you said you wanted to be a writer people treated you in the same patronizing way that they did if you said "i would very much like to be a kangarroo when i grow to adulthood." and a girl in my class said, but Sunshine you say that too. in fact, you said that Yesterday. la sunshine ------------------------------ [top] From: CFISHER@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 23:19:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: HeinleinPratchettYankovic Hey there guys. So much to say, mustn't ramble..Mustn't get off-track. Mustn't... use.... pronouns! OK, one too many comic books this past week. All of you Heinlein quoters- what is the first Heinlein book you encountered? Friday (and I was but a 14 y.o. chicky then). And does everyone agree that Michael Valentine Smith would be the bestest dearling for Tori, excepting his discorporation? Then again, maybe not...although I truly grok beige. Odd, isn't it, the things that give you a handle on the universe.. And feliz cumplean~os a Adam. Si quieres a practicar espan~ol...write. And oh, I have spent the last few days re-listening to Belinda Carlisle, and I'd like to thank whoever brought her up. And (TANGENTIALLY ON-TOPIC MATIERIAL) I got a tiny pot of lip gloss today that smells and tastes like sweetened vanilla. (Chris blows kisses to all of you) Yummy, huh? And it's a mauve-beige tone, perfect for all of those not-brown-but-close outfits... whee-hee! And although I've been told No Games for my new cd drive (yayyy, the dancing of many happy circles and irregular polygons), I don't know how long I can hold out against Discworld. And has anybody read Soul Music yet? I can't find it, and I just have to know who's in it... And what can I set as my task, my sacred (or secular) quest to earn the Discworld? This goes far beyond room- clean-completely or five chapters of text-reading... Suggestions welcome. And thanks all for listening to my rambles and brambles and Campbell's Soup is Good Food... and if all the Pisces belong in part to the domain of the FIsher Quen, why aren't you guys helping me keep the place clean, hmm? How else do you think sea shells get shiny and fronds dance untangled in my gardens and Aeschalus says hi and the fish don't say anything, because this is not a Disney post. But since Pisces are only part-fish, can you only partly-say things in my gardens, like the Kindly Dear's answers to ill-asked questions? Oh dearlings, I didn't mean to ramble-shamble when I started. (poof) Chris's grin disappears, the rest of her slowly following. As Always, Chris "La Reina Pescadora" CFISHER@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU "Every culture gets the magic it deserves." "'Love' is that condition in which -Dudley Young "Origens of the Sacred" the happiness of another person is essential to your own." -Jubal Harshaw ------------------------------ [top] From: "LaVeta R. Pfaff" <lpfaff@pen.k12.va.us> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 95 23:39:22 EDT Subject: experimenting w/other artists just got a quick question here, has anybody heard of maggie estep? if so, whadda ya think about her? i know that there was some sorta thing that mtv was bitchin' about with her, i think it had to do with her language, but how is her music? whew, better get to bed, gaelic is really strange, but i like it...enuf books tonight, later kahlil (bodach-gealach...in the long run if it did it right) - -- /=========================================================================\ | "For the world's more full of weeping than you can understand..." | | --W.B. Yeats, The Stolen Child | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | lpfaff@pen.k12.va.us or kpfaff@freenet.fsu.edu :) | \=========================================================================/ ------------------------------ [top] From: dlschol@omni.voicenet.com (dan scholnick) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 23:59:51 -0500 Subject: sarah's tips well to start out with, i must clarify that when i say that i know i can never do what sarah does, that doesn't mean "she's So good, i'll Never be as good as She is." See, for a month or two after utp came out, that was all i listened to (literally) and i listened to it constantly. (i just caught myself doing that with the ani cd, btw, but managed to practice Restraint.) right about then i got this sick and twisted view that the female voice is the highest form of expression, and nothing else can come close. Now sarah just amazed me with her Incredible talent, but i know that i will never be able to sing with that kind of voice (shh todd! this is Dan speaking not tori. remember: a l i a s ) and at the same time play piano like she does. it's physical limitations, you know? and again i think it's the vestiges of that opinion that i held about the female voice. However, when the chieftans came on, they were supremely inspiring because i knew that if i devoted myself to one of those instruments i Could be that good. or even i could play great music with the instrument that i play right now, guitar w/ ebow. zakir hussein doesn't discourage me on tabla, because i know that the more i practice on that instrument the more integrated it will be in my mind and body, and the better i will be at expressing ... and yeah, Everybody can email me about ani :) but then sandbo chimed in... >"Shut up brain or I'll poke you with a Q-tip!" hey don't joke about that. it's serious stuff... a drummer i once played with had a queue-tip in his ear when his dad asked him to move some furniture. he failed to remove the tip-queue from his ear, and Somehow it bumped into a door and got rammed inside. drummers... oh, and did anyone notice that SnowSqwrl has the same email adress as the fugazi4u person? so either they just have the same adress, they share an account, or they are the Same Person. go figure... well, it's That time again. ever notice how my input appears Very close to the end of the digest? that's 'cause i squeeze it in just before midnight. Unfortunately rdt took a loong time getting to me, and (perhaps related) was a five-parter, so i'm not even Finished... i just feel bad that i'm responding to threads only and not putting anything New in. well, i'm just glad that i can actually tell you guys apart now. i mean, (sorrysorry) for a while i couldn't tell toolophile from zooberries, but Now you all seem to have personalities and unique-ity (umm... that's a word. really. uniqueness? that looks funny. excuse me...) so i am just a happydan. happydan. <<-------------dan l. scholnick--dlschol@omni.voicenet.com------------>> <<-----------philadelphia-------------------pennsylvania---------->> <<----------...the air is full of fish and mystery...--------->> ------------------------------ End of rdt-digest V1 #51 ************************ *********************************************************************** Disclaimer: The opinions contained in this list are not those of the list operator, Novia Internetworking, and are not necessarily those of the listserve members or those who post to this group. 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