RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #1648

RDT Right Now #1648

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Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 01:49:49 -0700
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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to: <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the subject and body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 02 : Issue #1648 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o peas, dove and a hard question [ "Lavenda" <earth@comcen.com.au> ] I like to raaaamble! [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ] Still songs with Rain (ufff! it's an [ =?iso-8859-1?Q?Maria_Am=E9lia_Doria ] fee fai fo [ Emmanuel Caballero <spacedog@prodig ] OKLAHOMAAAAAA!!! [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ] Freaks who think Andy Kaufman is ali [ Chris <cmeyers@oasis.novia.net> ] je suis idiot [ "Succubus Barbie" <delirium1479@hot ] disposition may be fetching [ Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.de ] [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] On June 18th in 1992, a lot of talk about various releases of LE (colour and b&w booklets, French edition with an empty box for the cover [yet to be confirmed, but as anthony suggested, i suspect someone has just put the booklet in back to front]) In 1995, more and more Hobbes (from and about him). Also, some brief parodies of Tori songs related to the list and net in general: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives/upenn/digest.9506/msg00036.html#9 In 1996, we had the 4th installment of the Bosendorfer article, a number of DDI reviews, and one member posted: Tori's song "Professional Widow" is mentioned in the June 17th issue of _Newsweek_ on page 78, under a listing of songs "that are known--or suspected--" to trash Courtney. The lyrics, "Don't blow those brains yet/ We gotta be big boy/We gotta be big/Starf--er just like my Daddy" are quoted. In 1997, more on the discussion about genocide and culture [cultural deprivation a better term?] in the US. In 2001, still discussing the death penalty. [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] On June 19th in 1994, reports that MTV was using "God" as backing music for "Real World" ads, and people feeling MAAG is over-used. In 1995, more on women and armies and disciplining children, how to deal with Hobbes, list shirts and subsequent copyright issues. In 1996, the August and September dates for the DDI tour were posted. More books, up coming tv appearances, and following on from discussion of the "tell me which hand I use" line, and one member mentioning that they were of the understanding that the masturbation hand is usually the same hand as for general use (eg: writing), a member posted: I think it's funny that people masturbate and eat with the same hand In 1999, the begining of the "oriental" vs. "asian" thread, Axl Rose just won't go away, and depression and medication. [ ================================================================== ] Today's fuzzy ferret assistant: Lavenda Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 20:17:50 +1000 From: "Lavenda" <earth@comcen.com.au> To: "Strange Little Arty Turners" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: peas, dove and a hard question Violet posed re OTTBK part 2: >[Tori Trivia: actually, there > was, but not with that title. Extra Tori points for the folks > who know the name of the song.] Give us something hard!!! Pretty Good Year, with Father Lucifer potentially being number 3 (Tori added 'Lucy girl' lyrics to it on Hard Rock Live and no doubt other places). Yay, Elisha is back!!! ~hugs~ to jewel and the family cat. ~hugs~ to Gabriela, hope you're back soon. X Lavs (Lavenda 1, primary adjunct of dominatrix Glenn) ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ Who could ever say you're not simply wonderful - 'Merman', Tori Amos ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ http://www.freewebz.com/tiarna/start.html - Tiarna's Homepage http://www.freewebz.com/drifts/start.html - Drifts Get Deeper -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 12:42:32 -0400 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: I like to raaaamble! Lish.. I guess I'll call you that--anyway.. I haven't met you before, BUT.. welcome back! :) Daniel asked: "Any of you guys here have experience on playing the LAP DULCIMER/MOUNTAIN DULCIMER or in playing the ZITHER?" I know what a dulcimer, but never played it before.. but I have absolutely NO idea what a zither is.. *looks to everybody else* think anybody else could help here...? angel foodcake asked: "i have a question...does anyone know where i could get a copy of the more pink b-sides thingie?" I dunno where you could get a COPY of it, but the tracklisting of it, I believe, is up on the Fairy Tales website. hit me up for the url if you need it.. :) Lavs said: "Am I wrong in thinking the States are new-comers to the game???" No.. we're not. We just normally suck at it. :D Lavs then sent thoughts for my sister (who is out of the hospital but still recovering): "~get well soon~ thoughts for Cyndi's sister" Thanks so much. I was WORRIED about her there.. *phew* verily much relieved now.. :) Jewel: *get well soon thoughts for your cat!* let's hope he recovers quickly if he's just sick. :) okay I'm gonna try out the prison bitch name generator thing.. rofl.. okay, I, Cyndi Crawford, am.. Pillow Biter. rofl! gonna try different names now! rofl.. lol Tori Amos --> Skidmarks.. next name! ... eh nevermind.. that was funny! rofl.. Gabs is LEAVING us!! *bawls* Can't wait for you to come back Gab! Take care! :) hey Coops! have fun at the Heart concert! :) All of you people rock, much luv to everybody, that's all from me for this digest! :) Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford (Keyyooo on ICQ and IRC, Keyyooo1 on AIM) http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ -- http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ -- http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do. Not. Describe. Myself." ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 19:27:48 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Maria_Am=E9lia_Doria?= <madoria@mail.telepac.pt> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Still songs with Rain (ufff! it's an endless list...) and a linguistic help request Dear All RDT, Daniel: "Kiss the Rain" is from Billie Myers (I forgot this one Cindy, sorry...) Cindy: I really hope your sister gets well. And that everything goes well with your nephew/niece. Congrats for your art exam! I Know a song with rain but it's in portuguese... "Chuva Dissolvente" (something like solvent rain) from Xutos & PontapÈs. About cd-copying protection. It's falible, did you know? Click on the right button of the mouse, and then choose explore. Copy these items into the list to record... I hope it's understandable, this explanation... I did this with Alanis new cd, so that I could hear it on my computer. Angel Foodcake: try Kazaa All: I'm doing a paper work to improve a mark in my faculty. It's a paralell between english phrasal verbs and portuguese similar verbs. If anyone remembers anything, no matter how stupid it may sound, about this, please tell me. Even phrases in english with phrasal verbs. I prefer with GIVE, for it's the verb I'm studing in particular. Thank you all very much. And if anyone needs a help with linguistics... I'll try to help. Juan, you're included! Maria. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 13:29:33 -0500 From: Emmanuel Caballero <spacedog@prodigy.net.mx> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: fee fai fo Welcome back Elisha! Have you tried Outlook Express ( I know it's made by Satan himself, but it's actually a great program. Entourage is better still, but i dont think its for free. OE is though ) JUAN: muchisima suerte con el examen. Angel: I think it's pretty much sold out. Somebody have a copy around who could make us another copy? About protected CD's: I hate the idea. I own a mac and have a disc changer in my car, how the hell am i suposed to listen to music now?? I hate the idea even more because for the last ten years, all of my spare money has been spent on music. It feels like such a blow to the head that the music industry just doesnt get it. Making copies of CD's is NOT the problem, as much as recording a tape wasn't either. Sales for recorded CD's went up in the last couple of years, mainly because of mp3 distribution ( you listen to a lot of new music, for free, then you can decide if you buy the album or not, just like a huge listening station at the store ), and the idea of making travelling copies of your CDs was a great idea. I'd be pretty stupid if I carried my Tori bootlegs around, or Ani DiFranco's Living in Clip, or NIN's Still CD... I mean, I payed a whole fucking bunch of hard-earned cash to get these albums, I'm not gonna expose them to burglary in Mexico City ( they'll rob anything, i tell you ). So fuck you big monopolies of the music industry! By the way, there is a very easy way to get rid of the protection: just paint the outside border of the recorded surface with a black marker. I'm everyday more and more convinced that the world is some kind of huge Twin Peaks... connections between people I know have started to become both freaky and surprising. I'll probably end up being my girlfriend's long lost brother and we'll have deformed babies. until a third eye appears e. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 23:25:42 -0400 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> To: sonicshuffle2000@yahoo.com, jcoffman@taurus.oursc.k12.ar.us, mjcentral@hotmail.com, mjfansreunion@yahoogroups.com, rdtrn@torithoughts.org, royha@deepfrost.com, cyndi.crawford@juno.com Subject: OKLAHOMAAAAAA!!! Okay, you wonderfully lovely, lovely people.. (yeah, every last one of ya! :D lol..) tomorrow (Tuesday) my mother and I will be driving from Georgia all the way out to Oklahoma.. so tomorrow I won't get to see you, but, granted, Wednesday, I'll be able to get my email sent and so on.. so no worries. CYA!! BY THE WAY.. I will be gone for about two weeks.. I'll send you another email to let you know when I head for home then, okay? :) Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford (Keyyooo on ICQ and IRC, Keyyooo1 on AIM) http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ -- http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ -- http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do. Not. Describe. Myself." -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 23:04:58 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris <cmeyers@oasis.novia.net> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Freaks who think Andy Kaufman is alive > [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] > > Hobbes calling everyone (essentially) buttfucks. Ahhh...*sigh*...memories... > > In 2001, more on the McVeigh execution, and the Happy Birthday > Tori fundraiser project for RAINN was announced to the list. Well everyone knows I'm a big conspiracy freak. I personally don't think McVeigh is dead. McVeigh had rights to several more appeals. He fought for a little bit, and then, without much reason just quit fighting. The simple fact is, the United Stats Government NEEDED this conviction and execution. The questions about the 3rd member of the bombing (whose remains were found in the debris AND whose pictures were shown on FBI held footage (but not widely publicized)) were becoming increasingly hard to answer and embarassing. More and more questions about federal agents actions in the days prior to the blast were also building up. Suspicious men weilding federal ID's in places they had no legitimate business being. The government needed this for so many reasons. A warning needed to be made to would-be terrorists. This didn't seem to work. Someone always needs to hang or people lose faith in the system and McVeigh was making them look increasingly foolish. Some of the sicker, more disgruntled segments of society were already beginning to get inspired my McVeighs Prime Time interview rhetoric. Some others were getting sympathetic. So they cut a deal. McVeigh gets two wishes. He gets to live and he gets to be a martyr. Witnesses to the execution saw him injected. They saw him "die" and there are many drugs that can do this, and always have been. Puffer fish do this to people every year without any pharmaceutical wizardry. The Government has already stated that the much publicized hearse that drove away after the execution did NOT have his remains in it. In fact, his remains were "scattered in an undisclosed location". No body, no evidence will ever surface that he was in fact killed. So I'm a freak...now prove me wrong. Not just arguments...bring me a leg bone. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 04:46:48 +0000 From: "Succubus Barbie" <delirium1479@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: je suis idiot Hola mes amies. I want to cut out my tongue and slap it around a bit, for it is definitely NOT connected to my brain. Vile, vile, vile tongue. Doing its own thing. Argh. As to why I am upset at that flappy thing in my mouth: Today I went to the fair with Yiwei and we were leaving when this girl I've seen around school waved to me and said "hi". I don't know her name cuz I suck at names, but I said "hi" back and then I stated that I liked her hair, which was obviously dyed black with little spirals in it. Behold the conversation: Her: You like it? I've had it in Tan and Black. Which do you like better? Me: I...um...black. Black! Cuz you look like black...um....people!? Slap me, please. I swear I did not mean to say black PEOPLE! My brain had the "off" switch on and I am a complete and total idiot. I sounded like a racist and her blue haired friends looked at me like I was the scum of the earth. Argh. I can't talk to people socially without panicking and going "whatamIgoingtosay!!!??whatamIgoingtosay!?!?!?!?" in my head and then I'm either too busy panicking or too busy wondering as to what I'm going to say than to actually PAY ATTENTION to what they're saying and then freakin THINKING BEFORE SPEAKING. This being typed, I am now going to stick my head in dirt and try to convince myself that, indeed, I have a brain and dammit, I will get it surgically attached to my tongue and I am a total idiot who needs to be slapped because now a perfectly nice girl whose name I do not know thinks I'm racist cuz I'm stupid and dumb and don't think and... I think I'm overreacting to this, but the problem's still there. The whole needing social skills thing. I mean, I need to learn how to make small talk and how to actually LISTEN when being talked to, especially by strangers, and how to not trip over words and fuck up the context of my sentences and not sound like such a COMPLETE IDIOT and just shut up and listen and listen and actually LISTEN. ...! Maybe I should give myself homework assignments? Today's assignment: Find an interesting person. Go up to them and ask them, "If you could do anything in the world without any regrets, what would it be" or "What is the meaning of life?" (42) or "Does all your base TRULY belong to us or is that just a myth?" or something equally as conversation start-y. Today is not the greatest day in the kingdom of Megan. In fact, I also lost $10 bucks trying to win a pet lizard. But that's another story entirely. And carnival folk scare me, especially when they have no bottom teeth but still insist upon smoking after demanding money from you. Your hair looks like black people. Sheesh! I need a staple gun. How Now, Brown Cow? Megan Christine Auffart _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 22:26:00 -0700 From: Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.devin.com> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: disposition may be fetching Gabriela wrote: > I've been made to wonder how emotional predispositions of the moment make > you listen to music in an absolutely different way. Especially to the > lyrics. Being emotionally exposed and vunerable often opens you up to even > the simplest lyric, maybe because your sarcasm barrier and "disbelief" are > lifted, it all hits dead on into your heart. Yes, I definitely think this is true. You know, most days you can't stand all the pop crap on the radio, and then you get your heart broken and one day they seem like they're all singing to you. Music is a mirror -- and sometimes it is difficult to see ourselves in it, and other times quite easy. These days, I find myself wanting to listen more to music that poses a philosophical challenge, or something that expands my musical boundaries a little. It was a long time before I could listen, for example, to Kate Bush; before that, her music just didn't speak to me at all, it was too challenging or something. Then one day I listened to her and I thought, "I get this. I finally GET this." And I wound up getting all her albums in a pretty short period of time. (Some I think try too hard to be challenging. I still love Tool, but they definitely come to mind.) Urgh. This is quite a tangent. A close friend of mine is going through something terrible right now, although it's good for him and it will all be much better once it's over with, but a lot of songs I hear right now remind me of his situation. Songs I don't think I would normally listen to so closely. :) Sorry you're not doing well - if you ever want an ear across the water, you know how to find me. :) Beth -- "Hamish: Is your father a ghost, or are you conversing with the almighty? Stephen: In order to find his equal, an Irishman is forced to talk to God. Yes, Father! The Almighty says, 'Don't change the subject!'" 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