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Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:04:27 -0800
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RDT Right Now #1881
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Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 03 : Issue #1881
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Tori Amos, "Thoughts"
In this issue:
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"You are never fully dressed without [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ]
do not go gentle [ John Bragazzi <utown@worldnet.att.n ]
Bert, do you know me? [ John Bragazzi <utown@worldnet.att.n ]
talktalk [ Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net. ]
round and round [ Violet <fluffy@annihilist.com> ]
Thoughts of a Bibliophile [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ]
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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 20:02:58 -0500
From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com>
To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: "You are never fully dressed without a flower"
Last night was final night of classes and there was a student/faculty show,
then a midnight breakfast (I've never seen so many smashed college
girls!!!). But the talk of the day was how *my* professor was getting out
of tee-shirt and jeans to spend the day in formal wear. When I heard this
plan, I ordered him a boutonniËre with a card that read "You are never fully
dressed without a flower. Love and Peace, Woodstock". He had it proudly
displayed at lunch and as he posed for a picture with me, asked quietly,
"Are you responsible for this?" I did the whole "Who Me???" bit, then had
to run. I figured he could mull that over a bit.
That night, I finally got a chance to really talk with him a bit. I had him
autograph the pic of us, then asked if the flower delivery made a commotion.
A bit, he said, but he said it must have been from the Peace Coalition to
quiet the gossip. I smiled at him and asked, "What makes you so sure I sent
them? Am I the only one who would do so?" He got flustered and stammered,
"Well, yes..I guess so...Obviously!" "Good to know." I replied. He gave me
a raised eyebrow and said, "I suppose it is." He had made a huge show of
letting me see he was still wearing it, smashed and smushed from a hard day.
I let him go do his meet and greets, and grabbed my coat. I talked with a
friend outside the dining hall for a while when the Professor came out. He
walked over to the table we were at and started pounding it with the side of
his cane. There were many marks on the cane and I asked if they were
"notches" and if so, what did they signify. He showed me a chip on the
handle and complained about splinters, then raised the cane again, saying
"Feel the Power!" My friend and I just looked at each other, this being
somewhat typical behavior from this man.
Then he does this little Charlie Chaplin walk down the hall, by himself,
walks back the same way, and with a look at me, grabbed his topcoat. I
asked if he were leaving --- "Always make your exit when the exit is
good" ---and told him I'd walk him out. We had a nice walk down three
flights, making small talk, like his early morning meeting and late night
final the next day. We got outside and he sincerely thanked me for the
flowers, saying they really made the outfit and he was touched. Then he
gave me a huge hug (about the 20th hug of that day) that could have gone
somewhere else, but it didn't. I pulled back and smiled, "You're never
fully dressed without a flower". He gave me another hug and we parted
company with a date to meet in a week. It's supposed to be for me to
deliver him some homemade Kahlua, and him to return a video tape, but it's
also to "talk".
I've never played games before, and I don't understand them, but I
understand him. On June 17th I realized he was my soul mate, and that it
wouldn't be until Fall before something came of it. I've told him many
times over the summer that he has all the time in the world, and I'm not
going anywhere. I also told him that my faith is stronger than his fear. I
wonder if he remembers that, as he signed the photo of us together with
"Keep the Faith".
I believe, I believe, I believe. When you truly believe, miracles can
happen. So believe along with me. I so want to be proven right in my
philosophy about love.
Fairy Blessings,
Bethey
I'm OK when Everything's not OK
cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say
And I have always been a Fairy.
www.bethcoulter.com
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Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 22:01:23 -0500
From: John Bragazzi <utown@worldnet.att.net>
To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: do not go gentle
Bethany said:
> this interview posted on the Dent is a good example of that:
I stopped reading Tori's interviews years ago. I can write my own
gibberish if I need to (most of my cut-ups make more sense than her
interviews).
And, frankly, if she doesn't want to say anything, then don't. I have
complete respect for that. Thomas Pynchon hasn't made a single public
statement or appearance, let alone given an interview, during his writing
career, and it doesn't diminish my enjoyment of the books one bit (it
hasn't stopped them from selling either). Pearl Jam stopped making
videos, and they're still going strong. Do the things you want to do, and
simply don't do the rest.
What I want is songs with more spice and sass and humor and surprises,
like a certain red-headed singer used to give us. I don't really care
about the rest of it.
And I refuse to believe that "growing up" or "being a mother" or "middle
age" has anything to do with it. Many artists, in all media, are just as
fired at 40, or 50, or 80 as they were when they were 20, often much more
so. I've seen great jazz musicians playing ferociously into their 70s,
80s and even 90s.
I am glad you posted this link, though, because one part of the interview
had me laughing out loud:
> When you live here in Cornwall, people don't talk about the fairies
> like they do in New York. It's a part of the culture. It's not Tinkerbell
> to them.
For anybody who's ever actually spent any time in New York City, this is
hilarious. I've never been in Cornwall, but I guarantee you that the
fairies are a bigger part of our culture here.
Some are Tinkerbell and some aren't, of course.
As B/4,
John
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Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 05:39:06 -0500
From: John Bragazzi <utown@worldnet.att.net>
To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: Bert, do you know me?
Bethey said:
> I'm grateful I'm here.
As are we (well, me, I don't want to speak for anybody else).
There have been a lot of people on this list in the time I've been here,
from the fascinating to the tedious, from the articulate to the
incoherent, from the terse to the incredibly verbose, and from the good to
the evil.
Since I got here, you, more than anybody else, have been the heart of this
enterprise. It wouldn't be the same without you, even on the occasions
when I think you're completely out of your mind.
Glad you stuck around.
As B/4,
John
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Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:46:12 +1100
From: Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net.au>
To: Really Deep Thrusts Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: talktalk
That's what I like to see... lots of lovely talk. Too bad I can't reply at
the moment as I'm buggering off across the country to Perth for a few days
for work.
Keep it coming.
Brian
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Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:42:36 -0800
From: Violet <fluffy@annihilist.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: round and round
I'm trying to post more, but it's hard when I don't have anything to
say.
Well, it's not that I don't have anything to *say*, but what I have to
say will 1) be super boring and 2) it's hard to write.
1) I'm still sick. Really sick. Really *REALLY* sick. This flu is
as bad as everyone said. I can't believe how horrible I feel. I
haven't had a fever since Sunday, but I'm in a horrible limbo state of
perpetual dizziness (which of course bring perpetual nauseousness).
And my chest hurts. And I'm incredibly fatigued. But mostly, dizzy
like you get dizzy when you've had too much to drink and you're scared
to close your eyes because of the way the room starts lurching and
spinning. Only it does it whether I close my eyes or not.
2) It's hard to write becuase I feel so horrid and every movement is a
great effort. Hell, just attempting to *think* is an effort. I never
thought just trying to lie in bed and keep myself from falling apart
completely would be so hard.
Avoid getting this at all costs. I don't know what I'm going to do
for Christmas. From what everyone is saying, I'm still going to have
this then.
Ugh. Help me!
Trying to shop has been a challenge. I'm having to do nearly all my
ordering on line (so far, anyway), and yesterday I got a call from my
bank. They said there had been "suspicious activity" on my card and
they wanted to check with me. I said no, that was just me, trying to
do all my Christmas shopping online in a matter of hours. (Usually, I
start my shopping in November and spread it out more.)
The worst part is not being able to leave the house. I can go out and
sort of get in a car okay, but I can't drive to save my life. (I'm
not kidding about the dizziness. God, it's so so bad!) I keep looking
out the window and wishing I was out there, even though it's rainy and
grey today. Monday was really hard; it was a beautiful, sunny day with
blue skies and a Christmas-y crispness in the air. I wanted to cry.
Okay, I'm going to break this off. This is totally boring. More than
that, I desperately need to go lie down. I've been trying to watch
"Bridget Jones' Diary" without falling asleep since yesterday. (One
of my stack of Christmas movies. Yes, I know "Bridget" isn't exactly
a Christmas movie, but as the movie starts off it's right after
Christmas, so it *feels* like a Christmas movie to me. Same with
"You've Got Mail" and "Edward Scissorhands." Not Christmas movies,
but it's Christmas at some point in them, so they make me think of
Christmas. And, I'm still talking. Why am I still talking?) So I'm
going to go off to have some tea and try to watch "Bridget" some more.
Another boring update soon, I hope.
Violet
xoxox
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Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:20:04 -0500
From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com>
To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: Thoughts of a Bibliophile
I've listened to "Tales" over the past couple of weeks and have had a hard
time coming to a conclusion. The first thing I thought and still think is
"Tori--Get Rid of PW"!!! The way it jars me out of the dream of "Way Down"
is way down cruel. The second thought is that this is the first Tori album
(outside of YKTR) that makes good background. I know the songs, I don't
need to dissect them, I don't need to live and breath them to make sense.
Angels is great, especially knowing it's about hanging chads ;). Snow
Cherries is addictive. The rest, I like the changes, not over the
originals, just as changes. It's a new way of hearing it. Some changes are
non-existent in the subtlety, but I like the tweaking of these songs. And
my big announcement is that "Sweet Dreams" is making itself my new theme
song for my spring radio show. It's perfect.
Speaking of Tori, I did an extra credit paper on how using music is a coping
device. I did the paper on the time "Winter" saved my life (see my website
"The Reasons Tori Means So Much To Me"), and how Tori made me hear and use
music differently. I made a CD of Winter and God for the teacher so he
could hear what I was talking about. He's the religion teacher and chaplain
of the college, which explains the second choice. ;) I'll find out in a
week what I got.
I have the flu. My body aches, my head hurts, the monitor has trippy little
waves going through it. This is better than acid! Except my throat hurts
and pretty soon I'll need to lie down or I'll fall down. No stomach stuff,
just a bit delusional. hmm, maybe it's just my professor getting under my
skin. Anyone ever heard of love feeling like the flu? Causing a fever?
hmm...
Fairy Blessings,
Bethey
I'm OK when Everything's not OK
cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say
And I have always been a Fairy.
www.bethcoulter.com
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