RDT Right Now #1954

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Really Deep Thoughts Right Now			Volume 05 : Issue #1954

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  never came anywhere near my tabloids  [ "John Bragazzi" <utown@worldnet.att ]
  Excerpts from Tori's Show in Frankfu  [ ericwithac@t-online.de ]
  Correction: Frankfurt Show took plac  [ ericwithac@t-online.de ]



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Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 22:56:27 -0400
From: "John Bragazzi" <utown@worldnet.att.net>
To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: never came anywhere near my tabloids

First off, big congrats to Kerriloo for the impending nuptuals,  Are we
all invited?  I haven't been to a wedding in ages.  I don't think I even
*own* a red pair of Pro Ked sneakers anymore.

Oh, and I completely agree with your comments to Cyndi about diet and so
on.  Our brains sit inside our bodies, after all, and are pretty
powerfully affected by how those bodies are doing.


Steve said:

> Did getting married and having a kid make Tori happier?
> Yes, I'd say it definitely did. She certainly seems more
> settled now.

Quite possibly so, but that's not quite the same as the point I was
making.  It's certainly possible that Tori is happier than she was when
she made Boys for Pele, but what makes Pele great (IMHO) is not that it's
angry or unhappy or however you categorize it, it's that it's a powerful
and inventive piece of art.  OTOH, Beekeeper doesn't strike me the same
way, which has nothing to do with happiness or settled-ness.

For example, one of my all-time favorite albums, which I listen to quite
regularly even now, is "Deliverin'" by Poco, which is almost loopily happy
and very much about the pleasures of a stable relationship, playing music
with friends and so on.  Even the songs about negative people and negative
emotions are so upbeat that they come across as very positive.

So, my point is that, as I see it, Tori may or may not be happier and more
settled and so on, but she's not making compelling art.

On a related point, which has been on my mind, our mass culture doesn't
contain a lot of examples of happy marriage being portrayed as exciting
and positive.  Romantic movies treat the wedding as the end, whereas it's
really the beginning.  In a recent review I read of the "Thin Man" DVD box
set, it said that the Thin Man movies were the first to portray marriage
as something other than what you were trying to get into, or trying to get
out of.  In those movies, it was where you wanted to be, but that's
unusual.

I've been thinking about that a lot recently since (much to my surprise,
but that's another story) two of my major characters decided to get
married, and I'm really working on showing how terrific it can be.

I think about recent movies about marriage, and what comes to mind is "Mr.
and Mrs. Smith."  Which probably says something about the people running
the movie industry.


> it seems she feels she could never create
> anything like Pele again.

Which is great.  She already created it once, and she's unlikely to do it
better.  I agree that it's time to move on and change and develop.  That's
never a bad idea.

Whatever my qualms about her current recordings, it would be a lot worse
to see her trying to copy things she did before.

As B/4,

John

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Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 20:28:00 +0200
From: ericwithac@t-online.de
To: "Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Mailing List" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>,
	"Precious Things Mailing List" <precious-things@smoe.org>
Subject: Excerpts from Tori's Show in Frankfurt, Germany (July 28, 2005) to
be broadcast on German Radio Station NDR 2 on Monday (August 22, 2005)

Hi everybody,

the German radio station NDR2 will broadcast excerpts (9 songs, including
the Piano Bar part and the encores) from Tori's July 28 show in Frankfurt,
Germany, on Tori's 42nd birthday next Monday:
http://www1.ndr2.de/pages_std_lib/0,3325,OID1686864,00.html

The program that will contain the excerpts from Tori's show starts after the
news at 21:00 German time (CET = GMT+1 = "U.S. Eastern Time"+6 = "U.S.
Pacific Time"+9).

NDR2 appears to be available via an Internet Live-Stream:
http://www1.ndr2.de/pages_special_lib/0,,SPM7454_CONndr2,00.html

Cheers,
				Eric (with a 'c')

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Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 21:36:06 +0200
From: ericwithac@t-online.de
To: "Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Mailing List" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>,
	"Precious Things Mailing List" <precious-things@smoe.org>
Subject: Correction: Frankfurt Show took place on June 28, 2005 (of course...)

Hello again,

I just realized that I used the wrong date for the Frankfurt show in my
message from a few minutes ago.
It was on June 28, 2005, and not in July, of course...
Sorry about that...

I hope you will all eventually find a way to listen to the NDR2 broadcast.

Cheers,
					Eric (with a 'c')




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