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Really Deep Thoughts Right Now			Volume 02 : Issue #1644

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In this issue:
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  raiiiiiiiiiiin!                       [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ]
  rain and other weird stuff            [ Emmanuel Caballero <spacedog@prodig ]
  Welcome to my nightmare               [ Brian Cooper <ByteMe@smartchat.net. ]
  Lynch, St Anthony and the inner life  [ "Gabriela Kulka" <gabakulka@wp.pl> ]
  a few quick points                    [ Matt Smith <M.S.Smith-01@student.lb ]
  happy birthday!                       [ Simon Booth <simon@texas.net> ]
  making diamonds in the microwave      [ "Lavenda" <earth@comcen.com.au> ]



  [ =======================>  In RDT History  <======================= ]


     On June 10th in 1992, lots of discussion about the "Crucify"
     video.  Also, the very earliest beginnings of the Really Deep
     Thoughts fanclub.

     In 1993, quotes from a number of British articles (collected in
     a 92 edition of Entertainment Weekly) were posted.  Also,  a
     member posted about her conversation with some Atlantic reps,
     with one response being:

        Tori apparently plans to use *more* full-band backing on the
        new album and her next tour will be with a full band as well.


     In 1995, there was a post about friends made through Tori (and
     the list), and there were a number of posts with book
     recomendations.

     In 1996, part 2 of the Boesendorfer history was posted to the
     list.

     In 1997, more on genetic engineering.

     In 2000, people were listing the celebrities they found the
     most "fuckable." Some of the choices included Dido, Angelina
     Jolie, Ani DiFranco, Trent Reznor, Sting and Moby.


  [ =======================>  In RDT History  <======================= ]


     On June 11th in 1992, there was discussion on the line "Where
     the pretty girls are those demigods with their nine inch
     nails..."

     In 1993, some members were expressing nervousness at the
     thought of Tori going towards a full band sound.

     In 1998, people were discussing who the "Northern Lad" was.


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     Today's fuzzy ferret assistants: Beth Winegarner & Lavenda



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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 22:45:07 -0400
From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: raiiiiiiiiiiin!

        George contributed to my little list of rain songs.. anybody
wanna hang onto the list and put it on a webpage somewhere?? :D

Ade said of her near-dog-rape experience: "ick, i don't want to be his
bitch!  ok, i know i'll be laughing hysterically about it in a week, but
it's still freaky.  ah well."
        rofl.. shoot.. well think about it.. if a DOG likes you that
much, imagine how much more a human male might! :D

        Um.. okay.. uh.. that's all from me.. I'm halfway out of it
(blame it on the peppermint schnapps) anyway, and I need to study for my
final tomorrow.. whoop-dee-fruggin'-DOO. :P wish me luck on that one and
my art final.. :P *grumble*

Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford (Keyyooo on ICQ and IRC, Keyyooo1 on AIM)
http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ --
http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ --
http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/
Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do.
Not. Describe. Myself."

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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 00:02:00 -0500
From: Emmanuel Caballero <spacedog@prodigy.net.mx>
To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: rain and other weird stuff

Songs about or with rain in them I remember about:

- Rain King
- Raining in Baltimore ( both from the Counting Crows )
- I'm Only Happy When It Rains ( Garbage )
- How Beautiful you are ( The Cure )
- Sometimes ( James, and this is a great one )
- Down in It ( Nine Inch Nails )
- Foolish Games ( Jewel, don't ask why I know this )
- Northern Lad ( Tori, of course )
- So. Central Rain ( REM )

e.

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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 22:07:14 +1000
From: Brian Cooper <ByteMe@smartchat.net.au>
To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: Welcome to my nightmare

What a way to waste a long weekend! More painting. Yes Cyndi, I'm still
using blue.

the dreamy Lavs wrote in #1640:
>Let alone the dreams where you think you've got up like any other morning
>and started on the chores for the day only to find you are still in bed and
>it was all a dream...

Or is it a nightmare? What boring dreams you have. I wouldn't call dreaming
about me a chore. ;-)   Ever had a dream where you're having a conversation
with someone but you don't realise it's a dream and that person gives you a
strange look when you pick the discussion up where you "left off"?

Well it looks like the troubles over Kashmir are going on the back burner
for the moment. Unless something remarkable happens, tensions will build
again. It might not be this month, next month or next year that things go
awry, but it will happen.

It's quite a shame that suck a beautiful part of the world if a no-go zone.
Foreigners enter at their own risk (the Indian government doesn't usually
give permission) and are lucky if they leave alive. Too many Westerners
have been abducted there over the years. When I was in India and Nepal in
'96, it was amazing the number of Kashmiri refugees you'd run into and
they'd nearly all be selling rugs. They really do miss their homeland.

While I tend to agree with Chris about the nukes in Pakistan and India, in
that they are low yield and are unlikely to affect anyone outside their
countries, the ramifications of two states using nuclear weapons is
something else altogether. Let's hope sanity prevails.

I was channel surfing last week and saw an interview on Sky News with
Richard Butler as the guest. He's a former Australian diplomat to the
Untied Nations and he was in charge of the search for weapons of mass
destruction in Iraq after the Gulf War. The topic was the India/Pakistan
situation and it had all the makings of a thought provoking interview. Then
they opened up the phones to viewers and the IQ level dropped about 60
points. I felt like ringing up and telling them that. I didn't know there
were so many stupid people in the country. A potentially good interview
wasted. You could see the frustration on Richard's and Terry Willesee's faces.

Koba wrote:
>incidentally, there is a merkin concert hall here in nyc. it's nice little
>place- i've seen two very hot cello recitals there

I know where it is. It's the shelter provided by your overhanging gut. As
for where you store your cello, I think that's rather personal and didn't
need to know that. At least now I know what that empty case in your
apartment was for.

>i just wrote an entry about how i thought puberty was striking me now (in the
>context of my piss-poor voice range having gone down some in the past year).

It's long past time your balls dropped. At least you're man, or should I
say, boy enough to admit it.

 From one animal story to another, Ade wrote:
>ahhh i'm in my pjs now... i should have a shower.  my neighbor's dog tried
>to rape me yesterday.  that was just plain freaky.

Maybe you should have had the shower after the dog humped your leg. So what
sort of dog was it, a mastiff?

Brian

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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 14:21:18 +0200
From: "Gabriela Kulka" <gabakulka@wp.pl>
To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: Lynch, St Anthony and the inner life of things

'ello.

John wrote about the Twin Peaks Bob scene I mentioned:

>I remember the shot you mean.  Him crawling over the furniture toward the
camera, getting larger and larger.  It was shot with miniature furniture in
the foreground, I would guess, but the realization comes after a minute,
when the conscious mind catches up with the shock.<

Do you know I didn't even realise the small furniture thing? I'm such a
child when watching a good movie, always taken, always following like a rat
after the pied piper *grin*. I am THE perfect example of suspended disbelief
we've all heard so much about. Writers and filmmaker should actually pay me.
Yeah, they should. I'm their most frequent and grateful employer. :-)


Cheefoska mentioned some groovy mind twists with moving objects and missed
people.

As to the coffeehouse event - things like that have happened before, it's
like having a part of reality veiled for no reason whatsoever, although in
the cases I know, this mostly applies to places not people. I usually avoid
basing examples on my own experiences in that department, because, ladies
and gentlemen, i have *THE* worst terrain orientation in the known universe.
If anyone ever doubts I'm a woman this will be my argument of last resort.
;-)

But fortunately some situations involve other people whose evidence is a bit
more convincing. Some places, no matter how simple in their architectural
layout etc are just... impossible to get around to. It must be a
juxtaposition of visual traits or maybe something more... have you ever come
across a room in a building EVERYBODY has a problem getting to, even though
it's as easily located as any other? For some reason people just get lost on
the way there or overlook a turn which is so obviously *there*. There was an
office like this in a hospital building when one of my friends' friends had
her leg broken. Some folks went to visit her and then a doctor. One was sent
first and came back, said he can't find the room, was branded a moron, two
others went and could not find the office either. Then the whole group went,
took the wrong turn twice and was finally brought there by a nurse who
calmly explained that everyone has a problem getting to room 219. it was a
normal door at the end of a corridor as dozens of others in the same wing.

I don't know how the book-in-the-drawer story fits in, i think the border
between mind-trick and supernatural is very very thin and sometimes the
supernatural IS the mindtrick and vice-versa. do you know what I mean? One
does not exclude the other, that's why it holds a certain fascination.
I've had things hide and come back to me in most peculiar places and
moments, as if on queue, but I've learnt to accept that as the inner life of
objects.

Apropos lost things, you know about st Anthony, the patron saint of found
things? - if you lose something you pray to him and things are found -
interpret it as you wish, he's never failed in THIS family. There are
money-boxes in churches into which you throw a penny when your st Anthony
prayer brings effects - it traditionally goes to the pooor. Well, yesterday
I had a bit of a revelation and, quite blasphemiously thought... what if St
Anthony intentionally HIDES the lost things and then *finds* them for us so
that we pay the money? Pretty smart, eh? Of course, all for the poor, but...
that would be... tricky. *big grin*



Gabriela

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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 23:05:08 +0100 (BST)
From: Matt Smith <M.S.Smith-01@student.lboro.ac.uk>
To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: a few quick points

1. enough already with the surveys

2. purchase "the private press" by dj shadow - you know you want to

3. gaba, i agree with everything you've said re thompson and venables

4. daniel in argentina, sorry about last friday - hang on, what the fuck am i
saying?!  never was a more blatant penalty seen in a world cup game...  look
forward to seeing you again in the semi finals.

catching up slowly

matt

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"For a thing like me to kill one of them or one of you is a very, very
easy thing to do, and, as I discovered, absolutely disgusting.  Just as
I need never wonder what it is like to die, so I need never wonder what
it is like to kill, Ziller, because I have done it, and it is a wasteful,
graceless, worthless and hateful thing to have to do."

Iain M. Banks, "Look to Windward"

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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 06:00:00 -0500
From: Simon Booth <simon@texas.net>
To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: happy birthday!

Sarah :)

contact me at: AOL IM: PhoenyxxS   MSN:    phoenyxx
               ICQ:    155394538   Yahoo:  phoenyxx2002



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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 21:47:43 +1000
From: "Lavenda" <earth@comcen.com.au>
To: "Strange Little Arty Turners" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: making diamonds in the microwave

Rain songs? Gees, that's gonna be one long list! Off the top of my head I
can think of one I quoted in a subject line recently ("making mirrors out of
sidewalks"), which is 'Changing with the Years' by Kate Ceberano (who noone
bar Aussies will know).

And well, who could forget 'Singing in the Rain"? :)

We've borrowed the Harry Potter video off Glenn's mum, and let's just say
Tiarna is hooked. Well, at least she's stopped being Captain Hook quite so
much and rides her cricket bat (even though she has a broom) around the
room.

Things have gone quiet. Must be June.

X
Lavs
(Lavenda 1, primary adjunct of dominatrix Glenn)

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