RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #1666

RDT Right Now #1666

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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:41:14 -0700
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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to: <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the subject and body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 02 : Issue #1666 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o I'm Living in a Mathematical World a [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ] toriamos.com update [ guapo stick <woj@smoe.org> ] Youthful Proverbs [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ] some sorta thoughts [ Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.de ] The only musicians without a Web sit [ "Doug Smeath" <heyjupiter1@hotmail. ] happy bday! [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ] wheeeee! [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ] Napster [ Chris <cmeyers@oasis.novia.net> ] Unidentified subject! [ "Ian Haddock" <brau2135@bellsouth.n ] Lilo & Mitch [ Emmanuel Caballero <spacedog@prodig ] Suede on Jools Holland [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ] heaven...it smells like fish and tas [ wildkoba <wildkoba@wildkoba.com> ] [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] On July 12th in 1992, a member remarked about a visit Tori had recently made to Israel. [By far the most wide-ranging tour to date, Tori played in such diverse places as Tel Aviv, Taipei, and Reykjavik while promoting Little Earthquakes. Those were the days. Anyways...] While in Israel, she appeared on radio and television and played a live show. This member asked: I heard she is going to have another tour in the US, so if anyone gets a chance to talk to her, please ask her if she'll visit Israel again and how soon. In 1995, a member contributed this bit of dadaism: Yes yes! Pink tomato spaghetti would be perfect for tori's birthday! And I know she has a sweet tooth also- maybe there would be a way to make sweet, pink, food-colored spaghetti? We could use HONEY or even SUGAR! Maybe I'm taking this too far? ;) In 1996, someone announced that EastWest had cancelled its plans to release the "Hey Jupiter" single. This may have been the first of many singles EW cancelled in the forthcoming years. In 2000, members were discussing the relative standards of attractiveness. The women, especially, lamented society's beauty standards and their own approaches. [ ================================================================== ] Today's fuzzy ferret assistant: Beth Winegarner Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:04:38 -0400 From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: I'm Living in a Mathematical World and I'm a Mathematical Girl I now exist in a multiverse where 10+ 6= 4 (assuming I use x+x/m) makes sense. It's a scary world knowing how to use the same algorithms that Wesley Crusher on Star Trek spouts out. What is truly scary is that I truly understand what I'm doing and it's not that much of a strain on my brain. Not bad for a fourth-grade math education, eh? So get this, a week into this six week course and I'm already carrying an A+. I always thought I was so stupid at math (without a calculator I'd be lost), but I somehow have the ability to understand these formulas. I'm really excited about this kid's show I'm doing. It's a comic retelling of "A Christmas Carol" (the show is Christmas in July), and I am "Calvin Hobbe" an imp filling in for the Ghost of Xmas Present, who has a strained ACL. I have a sock fetish and get to sing "I Love Socks" to the tune of Jingle Bells. Even as a non-singer it should be easy enough. I wrote the lyrics and I think they are really funny, but my taste is a bit out there, so we'll see. If anyone is around Quakertown Saturday Morning, spend the $5 and come see me make a fool of myself (but they will be laughing with me, not at me). It starts at 11 sharp. OK, time to start deleting 50 of the 54 messages in my inbox (damn spam) and then back to modulating numbers. Fairy Blessings, Bethey I'm OK when Everything's not OK cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say And I have always been a Fairy. www.bethcoulter.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:19:20 -0400 From: guapo stick <woj@smoe.org> To: torinews@smoe.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>, rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: toriamos.com update toriamos.com has updated their news section again: Thursday, July 11 Tori's friend Neil Gaiman wrote this about the forthcoming album..... The CD's about America -- it's a story that's also a journey, that begins in LA and crosses the country, slowly heading east. America's in there, and specific places and things, Native American history and pornography and a girl on a plane who'll never get to New York, and Oliver Stone and Andrew Jackson and madness and a lot more. Not to mention a girl called Scarlet who may be the land and may be a person and may be a trail of blood. woj -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:52:33 -0400 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> To: candi4545@aol.com, torandnan@juno.com, sonicshuffle2000@yahoo.com, jcoffman@taurus.oursc.k12.ar.us, lekia_thurman@yahoo.com, mleonard51@home.com, chelleball32@hotmail.com, rdtrn@torithoughts.org, mjfansreunion@yahoogroups.com, royha@deepfrost.com, GoodCharlotteSan@aol.com Subject: Youthful Proverbs A first-grade teacher collected well-known proverbs. She gave each child in her class the first half of a proverb and asked them to come up with the remainder of the proverb. Their insight may surprise you. Better to be safe than . . . punch a 5th grader It's always darkest before . . . daylight savings You can lead a horse to water but . . . how? Don't bite the hand that . . . looks dirty If you lie down with dogs, you'll . . . stink in the morning Happy the bride who . . . gets all the presents Don't put off till tomorrow what . . . you put on to go to bed Children should be seen and not . . . spanked or grounded You get out of something what you . . . see pictured on the box Better late than . . . pregnant -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:47:00 -0700 From: Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.devin.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: some sorta thoughts I posted this to pt this morning, but one of my fellow fuzzy ferret assistants suggested I post it here. Okay, warning, possible spoilers... :) Some thoughts on the "A Sorta Fairytale" lyrics: - "On my way up North" - I am thinking specifically of the four directions of the Native American medicine wheel, although every interpretation of the medicine wheel I've found online so far is completely different. But for Northern Hemisphere pagans, North is the direction of Earth, mother, and death. - I think when she's talking about the "hood" she's talking about riding in a convertible. What other songs have included mentions of cars? ("Glory of the '80s," "Mary," "Mother" ...) - What do you think it means that Tori's beginning her trip in Los Angeles? (I'd bet anything this will be the first song on the album.) It was her adopted home for a while, and it's where her music career really took off, but it's also where she was assaulted. - How do you break a silver lining? I'm guessing she's referring to "every cloud has a silver lining." What caused the "cloud?" - What sort of "fairytale" are we talking about here: Disney or Grimm? - Can someone who's read the book give us a synopsis of Wally Lamb's "She's Come Undone?" How does its mention play into the meaning of this song? - Does "break your bread" refer to the Last Supper? If it does, how does it influence the meaning of lines around it, like "until the honey spread" and "for me to take your word I had to steal it?" - What if the "you" in this song is a God? (If so, which one would she make a bet with?) I think these thoughts could go in some really fun directions. :) Beth -- "This country has a deep fear and mistrust of strong, smart, accomplished, outspoken women unless they are sexy 22-year-olds killing vampires on television." -- Dennis Miller _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._ music reviews + stories + poetry + photography + collage + Watchers livejournal + selkies + esoterica + links = http://echoes.devin.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:53:25 -0600 From: "Doug Smeath" <heyjupiter1@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: The only musicians without a Web site Cyndi asked if my brothers' band has a Web site, and unfortunately, the answer is no. I tell them over and over they need to get one, and they say they plan to, but nuttin' yet. Sorry. If you are asking because you wanted to make sure you LIKE the music before you vote for it, you can listen to the song at the American Idol Web site � the song they play on the radio for the listeners to vote on is on the Web site also. I would never ask you to vote for something without letting you hear it first. :-) Doug _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:31:40 -0400 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: happy bday! happy belated birthday Nathan! :) Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford (Keyyooo on ICQ and IRC, Keyyooo1 on AIM) http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ -- http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ -- http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ -- http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=kittitude Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do. Not. Describe. Myself." ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:48:57 -0400 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: wheeeee! Juan said he's feeling better.. YAY!! :) keep resting up! :-D The only thing I'm gonna say to this sports conversation here.. as I'm not a big fan of it (unless it's basketball in my cousins' driveway :)).. is.. I'm in Georgia.. the Braves are MY team. :D Beth said in reply to my "you're making me hungry" whine: "Well, that *was* the idea. :)" now you have to FEED ME! Beth then said: "I dunno about that. I have music playing in my head *constantly!*" !!! ME TOO!! e. said: "Has anyone given a thought about what the next musical fad will be? I mean, what miraculous new sound will de-throne britney and hip hop????" IT BETTER BE ME!!! :P dammit, it better be me!! Ade said (and I just realized I mucked up the friend/lover/dinner thing.. fuck!): "today is the 1 year anniversary of my first post. go me!" YAAAAAAY!! *parties with Ade!* wheee!! :) Linda, sounds like you had a blast at the Gynecologist. :D go often. Megan.. lol.. your slug story is cute.. very funny. :) *thumbs up* glad to hear you're staying HAPPY. :) Coops asked: "Why do people answer my rhetorical questions?" Why not? :D there's nothing like being greeted to a rhetorical question.. gotta love 'em. :) Okay I am feeling unusually quiet (but I owe part of that to licking a jawbreaker.) so I'll end this one now. muchos love, everybody! Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford (Keyyooo on ICQ and IRC, Keyyooo1 on AIM) http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ -- http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ -- http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ -- http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=kittitude Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do. Not. Describe. Myself." ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:12:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris <cmeyers@oasis.novia.net> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Napster I have friends who've worked for napster and the thing that puzzled them and us was that the radio can play music all day long for free but the moment you record it (even if you record it from that same radio broadcast) and put it on an mp3...you are a bad bad person. Radio stations regularly broadcast entire cd's the day they are released and this is okay...but if you miss it and later on that day you download it off the internet, then all artists should hate you because you are evil and out to get them. 3 years ago, metallica was featured on the internet site napster...and they've been screwed ever since...they are declaring bankruptcy... Oh...wait...wait...no...that never happened. But radio stations pay artists for the right to play their songs. Okay...fine...Why do you WANT to download metallica? Because you heard it on the radio...when the artist was paid for the broadcast. You didn't usually waste half an hour of download time to listen to something you've never heard of... But maybe it's an unknown artist? Metallica used to encourage people to copy their music and give it to people because it was good advertising. If radio was new, you would hear all these artists screaming about that...but because it's something new, something that's never been done before people all imitate 90 year olds who've just learned that microsoft word has replaced the typewriter. Leave the griping about technology to the grampas out there who still think we owe them a government check just because they haven't died yet. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:16:17 -0400 From: "Ian Haddock" <brau2135@bellsouth.net> To: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: 'ello everyone... i have just joined this group and i thought i would go ahead and introduce myself. hope im not interupting ;)...... My name is ian, im 25 (a virgo), i live in Atlanta, Ga. and i have adored tori and her music since '92. i give her high praise for her sincerity, her drive to reveal truth, her disire to help heal and be healed, her absolutely beaming beauty and for never ever sucking =-) as long as we are all going thru this whole pre album/single high-anticipation period, i think i will add my bit to the discusion... Tuesday night i was searching kazaa for tori vid's that i have not seen and while i was there i figured i do an audio search as well....well, after going through a long list of various songs i already listen to, i was just about to disconnect when i saw it...a sorta fairytale. my jaw dropped, and my adrenaline began to kick in. oh my god, it's the new song. what should i do? so, after a few minutes of debating on the reasons for and against downloading it, i decided i should. i figured that i only happened across it (never even considering to search specificaly for it), so it was obviously meant to be. i d/led the song, and i have to say im really digging on it. its isnt obscure and cryptic as some of her best songs, just as musically its more up front with the guitar and the beat. at this point in my relation to the song, its a beautiful and lite (without being fluffy) song about road tripping and connecting within the moment. its a perfect summertime tori song...without any anger, angst, guilt or sadness (except maybe the bitter sweet kind). it's got that ethereal grace that she does so well, and im loving it. so, anyway thats all i wanted to say....im looking forward to recieving and taking part in this list... peace, quark The universe operates in silent efficiency. --Deepak Chopra -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:52:15 -0500 From: Emmanuel Caballero <spacedog@prodigy.net.mx> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Lilo & Mitch Married with children in hawaii I really liked the first half of this movie. I think the watercolour backgrounds really spice the movement, as the characters have to blend into it... they did a good job there... but Disney still has a lot to learn from the likes of Tim Burton and David Lynch: we do not need the fluffy pink cutesy stuff. KIDS WANT TO HAVE FUN AS THE REST OF US!!!! ( and they probably have more fun seeing someone receive a cake in the face than learn that "hannuka means family" ). So, when the movie turns out to be another moralist catholic-thinking story about a broken ( but not irreparable ) family who show a freakin ugly alien the meaning of loooove, it's lost my interest. Give me the alien hissing at everyone and little Lilo feeling the blues with Elvis the whole movie, goddammit!!!!! And I still don't care if hulahula means family. e. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 03:24:04 -0400 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org, precious-things@smoe.org Subject: Suede on Jools Holland I just downloaded and watched Tori's performance of Suede on that Jools show.. or whatever it's called. I'm TELLING you.. it was.. it really grabbed me.. especially at the end. I almost cried. I've never *WATCHED* Tori perform before!! AAH!! I have GOT to see her in concert! oh man.. I can buy tapes of videos online.. but where could I run to.. to get stuff like TV appearances and performances, and interviews, and so on?? Anybody willing to help a still-new EWF? Let me know please! :) Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford (Keyyooo on ICQ and IRC, Keyyooo1 on AIM) http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ -- http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ -- http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ -- http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=kittitude Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do. Not. Describe. Myself." ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:42:50 -0400 From: wildkoba <wildkoba@wildkoba.com> To: rdt <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: heaven...it smells like fish and tastes like chicken > oh man, those were *big* flies! sammy actually hit one ball *out of miller > park* which i think is an all-time first. unfortunately he peaked too soon > and > that damn yankee first baseman wiped the floor with him in the final. the beautiful thing about that ball was that the guy who picked it up was wearing a "hit it here sammy" shirt. > i'll get my coat.... both alomar and burnitz were on espn's "all-ternate > star" > team last night - ex-allstars who are having the worst seasons imaginable, > along with the likes of chuck knoblauch and mike hampton. it especially hurts to see burnitz sucking such moose cock. he swings for the fences, and if he doesn't whiff, he's popping up in the infield or letting his bat fly into the stands. he needs to do a better job of adjusting to the fact that every damn pitcher he faces is going to throw shit at him inside. and rather than pull the ball, he should perhaps think about going the opposite way more often. it's somewhat worked for vaughn, and now i see that fewer teams have been utilizing the "ted williams" shift (i.e., stuffing all your infielders on one side of the infield) on him. they still do it for burnitz because they (correctly) expect that he's looking to pull it. > what did anyone else think of the farcical ending to the all-star game last > night? i propped my eyelids open with matchsticks until 5:30 am only for a > tie it's too bad that it ended up that way. and as much as i think selig is a jackass, i can't really fault him for calling it off. i think the blame should lie more on the managers who feel it absolutely essential to get everyone in the game. btw...selig is the only commissioner of the four major american sports (i.e., baseball, basketball, hockey, football), who isn't an attorney. he got his start as a used car salesman. > You are correct. His blasts were huge but he mucked up in strategic > planning. He should have paced himself. (Easy for me to say. I prolly > can't lift his bat). it was hysterical to hear sammy after the first round, all negative and stuff. like, "i have to do better...i'm not hitting the ball as well as i want." piazza and schilling were dying from laughing so hard, and i can totally understand it. what i love about asf so far is how evans' bass tone fits in so weirdly. i can't decide whether i like his bass tone or not, but there's something about it that makes me think the "bad news bears" clinching the NL east. it's weird, but it fits, somewhat. the song's got a nice groove to it, even if bellson can't tell the difference between real and synth drums. ;-) anyone else think the email address "abulia@imaterrorist.com" truly tasteless? not that i'm a purveyor of purity, but there's something about that address that makes me wince when i see it, especially when the vibe from it is that it's supposed to be funny or something. but i guess that's just me. please sucks me the cockerel. wild koba o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o *** 1666: The Digest Of The Beast (Give Or Take A Thousand) digest *** To POST messages to this list: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Can't figure out how to SUB, UNSUB, or CHANGE ADDRESSES? 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