RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #1671

RDT Right Now #1671

From: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:59:17 -0700
Subject: RDT Right Now #1671
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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to: <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the subject and body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 02 : Issue #1671 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o Re: the saga continues [ Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.de ] Re: the twilight zone [ Simon Booth <sbooth1@satx.rr.com> ] twilight zone part 2 [ Simon Booth <sbooth1@satx.rr.com> ] Is that a gun in your pocket? [ Brian Cooper <ByteMe@smartchat.net. ] Hiya! [ "Logan, Deadra" <deadra.logan@tcb.a ] time lapses!! [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ] Ferron [ "Lavenda" <earth@comcen.com.au> ] happy days [ "Madame Ade" <alexandriasisp@hotmai ] [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] today's already done [ ================================================================== ] Today's fuzzy ferret assistant: Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:22:56 -0700 From: Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.devin.com> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Re: the saga continues Brian wrote: > While recording commercial music that you own for personal use is against > the law, record companies are going to turn a blind eye to you until you > start making it readily available to the masses. My understanding is that, at least in the US, it is completely legal to record music you own for personal use (making copies for the car, the office, whatever) and this falls under the fair use portions of the copyright law. I discussed this with an attorney a few months ago, who was the first attorney to prosecute a case involving so-called "copy protection" scemes on CDs. The attorney was Ira Rothken, who practices in Northern California and specializes in high-tech law: http://techfirm.com/ > outright theft. But that's what I'm asking: when does it become 'theft?' The moment you download something? What if you wind up buying it after hearing and liking it? Is it theft then? How can you make it possible for people to copy CDs they have purchased -- which it is their legal right to do -- but not possible for people to copy and distribute music? And would it be ethical to take away the rights of consumers in order to punish those who won't put money out for the music they're listening to? > As for prices of CDs, I know they've blown out over the last couple of > years in the US, but here they've been largely stable. I never would have bought CDs in Australia. They seemed astronomically expensive, even after taking the exchange rate into account. I think the only Australian CD I got when I was there was the "God" single. > Ok, Ms. Fussy Boots, consider this. They might have sucked from the samples > you heard. In a month or two, you might hear another single from their > album and liked it, or, as what happened, you heard it played by someone > you know and liked it. The traditional methods of deciding whether or not > to buy an album still exist. Sure, but there's a counter-example. Let's say I read about an obscure band in a magazine, and want to hear more from them. I go to amazon, but the sound quality of the samples are disastrous. I don't know anyone who listens to this band, so I can't borrow a copy of the album to see if I like it. What then? If this is a small, indie band, they would hope for me to buy their music -- but I probably won't take the risk, as CDs are expensive. While I agree that making mp3s is illegal, and it is within artists' copyright to protect themselves from that kind of duplication and distribution of their work, the amount of financial damage a few teenagers with their computers (as you said yourself, the number of people downloading these things is likely very small) can do to a big-name artist is miniscule. But having the ability to trade music by unknown or hard-to-find artists who don't get airplay is a real gift, both to music buyers and to the artists themselves. In the long run, I think that's worthwhile. Beth -- "How do you 'consume' music, when (a) music isn't a thing and (b) it's still there after you've used it... Just because the industry markets it as a commodity doesn't mean we have to accept their terms of reference. It's time people stopped talking about 'consuming' art and culture and so on and started thinking of art as an activity." (Christopher Small) _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._ music reviews + stories + poetry + photography + collage + Watchers livejournal + selkies + esoterica + links = http://echoes.devin.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 02:57:06 -0500 From: Simon Booth <sbooth1@satx.rr.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Re: the twilight zone when the bullet hits the bone.... (couldn't resist ;) ) seriously though- redstamen had a lot of cool insights about the whole shadow people thing I had posted about and daniel elaborated on. >in mixed company, i'd say "don't get me started" cuz really it's >kind of embarassing how much i have to say about this topic. I feel the same way about unexplained phenomenon- I've always been fascinated by all thing paranormal, including aliens and UFOs, but at the same time a little hesitant to talk openly about it around most people because it seems like there's such a general disdain for such an interest among the general public. On the other hand, I wonder if some of that "disdain" is actually people who have also had strange experiences but aren't coming forward about it. > if the things i've >seen should be explained as just hallucinations, well the men in white coats >better come cart me off. I think if everyone who's seen such things were "carted off" there would only be a few "sane" people left ;) It's dissapointing that there's not more mainstream acceptance of the unexplained- perhaps then people would feel more free to be open about what they might have experienced. >i think most people have a wall up subconsciously when it comes to >perceiving "the other side" (i would even say there are other sideS, not >just one). and some people for whatever reason (born-with-it, trauma, >dedicated practice) have a much flimsier wall... and they perceive things >consistently that most other people don't. I recall reading about how it's possible that everyone has some sort of psychic ability, varying from person to person. Even people with no obvious ability can still sometimes "tune in" on the "other side/s", like getting the proverbial "bad feeling" about a situation before they get into it, or getting a phone call from someone they were thinking about a short while earlier. Some people have precognitive dreams, and there are even people who have reported having dreams about what can only be described as alternate realities or timelines, sometimes going as far as to actually "percieve" possible alternate versions of history- in effect, remembering an event, and seeming to remember both possible outcomes. Knowing that one version never actually happened but the memory of what never happened feels very real. I mentioned in an earlier posting the idea that perhaps some ghost or shadow people sightings might actually be part of an alternate reality or dimension briefly slipping into ours. It's also possible that shadow people/ghost encounters might be sort of an "echo" of someone's past actions in a particular location. > but for a long time i met ghosts in several >places i lived, and even in a place i worked. most of the times i would >hear them, or notice symptoms of their being there rather than actually >seeing them. Like what I had mentioned before- no one else around but you know someone has been there. *Very* errie! A few times I've noticed what looks like evidence on the carpet that someone or something had stood or walked in a particular spot, when the only thing that should be on my carpet are the "tracks" from my wheels and those funny tracks the vacuum cleaner makes. >but the few times i've seen someone i don't know in my waking >life appear or disappear like a ghost, it's been out of my peripheral vision >and only for a few seconds. Do they appear solid, like they're actually there or more transparent? And do you see them long enough to be able to describe them? I really like your take here on perception and the mind's filtering of input: > when you see something out of your >periphery though -- that's different -- it's NOT what you were focusing on, >not what you thought you were seeing and it surprises you with an image >before your mind has put it's filter of expectations in front of it. so i >think if you were gonna "see" something like a ghost or shadow person, this >is the likeliest way. Reminds me a little of how people sometimes "saw" the alien in the "Predator" films even when he had his "cloaking suit" turned on. If someone just happened to be looking in the right direction, they'd spot the minor distortion in the scenery the alien was standing next to. The less you actually try to see a ghost or shadow person the more likely it is you might see one! night terrors: >lots of people mix them up with nightmares... >but you're not actually asleep when they happen, unlike nightmares where you >are caught in the grips of REM. I think I once read that this happens when your body has sort of fallen asleep before your brain and the senses have gone into sleep mode. It can also happen when you enter a partially awake state after a deep sleep- brain and senses waking up ahead of your body waking up. >this used to happen to me a lot as a kid, (which i hear is pretty common) >but then they came back for a few years while i was in my early 20's, >sometimes up to 8 or 9 episodes a night. i still have them every once in a >great while, so i'm not totally rid of them, but something has changed, for >the better i think, and i'm happy about that. Now *that's* scary! It doesn't happen to me that often (thankfully!) and it's only once on the nights that it does happen. Once in a while is scary enough- I don't think I could handle it happening as frequently as it had happened to you! right on the mark with this description: >-- physically i feel like i can't move, can't >breathe, and i feel usually like something is sucking my soul out through my >feet or my chest. Sleep paralysis! Like suddenly it feels like a huge weight or pressure is on you, and the "soul being sucked out" feeling is almost like the air in the room is gone, and you can't make yourself wake back up. I've even heard a loud static or buzzing sound when it's happened to me, like the sound of machinery revving up. > this is just a sensation though -- if that's not scary >enough, sometimes they were accompanied by auditory and visual >"hallucinations" -- as a kid i saw dark swirling masses come in through the >door and spin around my feet, Well I was feeling the little hairs on the back of my neck going up as I read that! I've seen the same thing- along with a dark figure that I can just barely make out to be a human shape, standing just outside of my field of vision in the dark. The figure is visible in the dark because it's *blacker* than the surrounding darkness in the room. (continued in part 2).... contact me at: AOL IM: PhoenyxxS MSN: phoenyxx ICQ: 155394538 Yahoo: phoenyxx2002 -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 03:27:47 -0500 From: Simon Booth <sbooth1@satx.rr.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: twilight zone part 2 continuing on the shadow people thread from redstamen: >as an adult i would sometimes manage to open >my eyes and see little dark goblins sitting at the foot of my bed or on my >desk or window sill. just sitting there like it was the most normal thing >in the world. do these "goblins" every do anything or try to interact with you? I've always been way too scared to get a closer look at the dark figure I've seen. >most often though i would hear things -- someone with a high >pitched voice screeching or whispering my name right next to my ear, or >sometimes just laughter or gibberish. More hairs on the back of my neck stood up here! That's what I've heard as well- the "voices breaking through static" sounds I mentioned earlier. It's hard to tell if the unintelligible voices are speaking just low enough that you can't understand them, or if they're speaking another language. Your description of how it feels like it's much longer than it actually is is also similar to what I've experienced, like time got stretched out, and when one of those events ends for me I actually fall back asleep and then wake up a little while later, and everything's fine, and I ultimately just relax again listening to the radio and I'm asleep again. You're right on the mark about how *lots* of people have had the same experiences of "paralysis" or someone/something holding them down. >it's cross cultural and old news too -- there are old drawings and paintings >from europe, africa, south america of dark monster-like mythical creatures >sitting on a sleeping person's chest. All of that makes me wonder if there's more to it than just cross-cultural mythology. I mean people in modern times seem less likely to readily believe in such things but they report the same experiences. And more than likely do believe in it after it's happened to them! about the medical explantions and how they don't fit: Years ago when it happened I had actually thought it was a prelude to something neurological with me getting worse- beyond the relatively minor problems I had always had when I was younger, but when I started running across stories of people having similar experiences I too learned that it wasn't related to other problems. I hope the mainstream media covers things like this more in the future. In a way it gives more credibility to what a lot of people know to be real already, as well as letting other people who've experienced it not feel weird or alone. about a scientist initially dismissing it: >and always suspected it was a weird physiological phenomenon, like having >your REM sleep kick in while you're still conscious and your mind and body >get surprised and you go into panic mode. that sounds reasonable. Is that the same as when someone is sleepwalking? If REM sleep starts when you're still partially awake, it's like having dream input superimposed over your real sensory input. > but then >he actually had an episode of them for a while and it changed his entire >approach -- even though he knew logically what was happening to his body I don't think anyone could be rational at the moment it was actually happening. It's just so intense that you can't stop and remember "oh yeah- I know what this is...do x,y, and z things to deal with it" no matter how much you've been told about it. and again, your take on this is most interesting: > when you are asleep, the other 90% of your brain that you >don't use in waking life kicks into gear and perceives and thinks and feels >things your body and your existence, your SOUL, can't handle in waking life, >cuz we haven't evolved enough spiritually as a people. Reminds me of what I've heard about astral projection and out-of-body experiences. And it's believed by some people that your soul actually travels about in a different dimension while you're asleep, which explains the dreaming process. But yes, I think you're on to something, that the brain opens up more while we're asleep, way beyond what we experience while awake. I like what you said here about dream visitors or halucinations during a night terror: >i think it's your mind perceiving something that maybe it's not >supposed to yet -- and therefore it can be extremely frightening. Now that would really explain things like the "dark figure" I've seen- something's there but I'm never able to see more of it than that, nor can I tell what it's intentions are. > that >transition you take every night as you go from a thinking rational waking >person to a prone slumbering body with it's sole night guardman called the >mind, i think it's where most people are bound to perceive things that make >a lasting impression on their conscious mind (and therefore remember them >the next day). And in a similar vein, perhaps that's why sometimes we wake up feeling like we're trying to remember something, and sometime later the recall of it slowly comes into focus. > >rather than explain away ghosts and little demons and shadow people as >mystical, or supernatural, or even spiritual messengers, i'm more >comfortable with calling them natural parts of our world, that like those >guys who insisted the world was flat, we as a people just don't "believe in" >right now. later on, much later on, i bet people will look back at us and >all our denial about this part of nature as backwards and blinded. that's >my suspicion anyway. I've thought the same thing :) Some people might call me weird, but there's so much more beyond the so-called "rational" that I can't help but think there's reality to it. I've never liked the usual "clinical" view of the world some people try to push :) Your ideas on this whole subject are pretty neat :) Simon contact me at: AOL IM: PhoenyxxS MSN: phoenyxx ICQ: 155394538 Yahoo: phoenyxx2002 -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:13:11 +1000 From: Brian Cooper <ByteMe@smartchat.net.au> To: Really Deep Thrusts Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Is that a gun in your pocket? I thought it weird on Monday when I guy got into the same elevator as me with a guitar case strapped to his back. The first thing I thought was, "Is there a gun in there?". It was weirder again that night when I got home and saw on the news that a guy tried to assassinate the French president with a rifle he'd concealed in a guitar case. Maybe I've just watched Desperado too many times. Before I get into the replies, I'd like to make it clear that I don't really hold anything against anyone who downloads music off the net. I just bore them to death with my views and that's the usually end of it. I know I can sleep well at night in the knowledge I'm doing the right thing, so it's up to the pirates to live with themselves. Violet wrote in 1667... >*** Remember...The *Neck* Needs Sunblock Too (Sunburn SUU-UUCKS) digest *** Violet's a redneck! Violet's a redneck! :-p Just after I managed to take up half a digest, well, more if you remove the "on this day", I was wondering where Simon was. He obviously can't resist a challenge. In #1669: >So that explains the real reason why Canberra was established as the >capitol- to solve the "not in my backyard" situation... Funny you should mention Canberra now, as I'm doing field service down there on Friday. >Or allowing Tazers on board. I can see it now- the offending cellphone >user calls a friend back on Earth, and the friend answers their phone, to >hear their Mars-bound friend say "Guess where I'm calling from...zzzzaap!" Bugger the space ships, I want to be able to use one of those on the train. >So Murdoch is to media what Gates is to computers. But is Murdoch truly as >evil as Gates? I mean, does he too wear a toupee to hide three 6's on his >head? No, he just does a simple comb-over. The man is all class. Murdoch would have far more power than Gates, so in that he is the devil incarnate. The shares in his company have been diving for months now, but you won't read about that in any of his newspapers or see it on his TV stations. Yet when other companies have a hiccup, they're the first to yell and scream. >Seriously- the Airplane movies were retitled outside the US? Yup! Surely I am serious. And don't call me Shirley. Claire wrote: >Is it just me, or is the windows xp design just ugly (I've just been >defaulted back to it)? While I love its stability, I really hate its look. The first thing I did when I got it was turn off all the eye candy and set everything to the classic style. >*** Banana Blender Surprise digest *** Is that anything like a banana bender surprise? I'm still waiting for one of those from Dani. Brian -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:10:49 -0500 From: "Logan, Deadra" <deadra.logan@tcb.aecom.com> To: Tori List <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Hiya! arija asked: but i do have one question: does anyone know anything about tori's contribution to ferron's album (i'm sorry, i dont know the year or anything)? i was on amazon.com looking at prices for a new found glory's new album (i can get it new for $11.57 wooo) and typed in tori just out of curiosity, noticed that she contributed something to one of ferron's albums. does anyone know anything about this? good? meh? If you go to Hereinmyhead.com and go under diagnosed sounds, misc., you can get a mp3 of the song that tori sang back-up for ferron. It's okay. If I had heard the song before I knew that Tori was on it I don't think I would have noticed. It's not bad. I got A Sorta Fairytale yesterday and I have to say that I really like it. It is definitely different than Tori's other songs but I still like it. I think I would like anything Tori did. If anybody wants it, let me know. Dancing Girl -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:30:44 -0400 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: time lapses!! okay, so I have a webcam right.. well I got an idea last night to take a time-lapse photography of me sleeping in my bed.. very interesting to see something I already knew--I'm all over the bed when I sleep. I constantly move! lol.. anyway.. Simon said in my babble about my love of science and astronomy: "....Still, I've always enjoyed reading and studying science is still a hobby of mine- and me having cable is for the documentary channels rather than the movie and sports channels most people get cable for ;)" Sweeeeeet.. you're an intellectual! I don't dig sports unless it's basketball in my cousins' driveway in Oklahoma. :D Simon then said: "....even with that telescope, a 3 inch reflector I could still get great views of Jupiter's largest moons, Saturn's rings, and excellent close-in looks at the moon." DUDE! that ROCKS! lol golly! what'd it all look like? are they colored like they supposedly are in the professional pics taken by ppl like NASA? Simon then wondered: "I know my interest in space and astronomy really was a sore spot with some people, like I was doing something wrong, but I've never totally understood why one should be so angry at someone for enjoying learning things on their own." If you did it all the time (I did it a LOT when I was younger--read I mean.) and hardly visited with the outer world, that's probably all it was.. they probably just wanted you to visit THEM for a change. *shrug* Oh, and Simon.. I found the quote at that Fairy Tales website.. and saved it.. lemme c&p it.. okay, here it is: Q: What music would you like to have played at your funeral? Tori: Happy Phantom from Little Earthquakes. When I die, the only sad thing is that I will really miss some of my friends. But I have a lot of friends somewhere else, where I'm going, and that'll be groovy too. If I cruise off, don't mourn, 'cause I'm gonna be somewhere bitchin'. Simon to me on person-to-pet ESP: "Oh yes! Pets really do pick up when someone isn't feeling well, or when they're excited. My sister's dog seems to be able to wake someone up just by sitting by them and staring at them quietly for a few minutes ;)" My brother's dog picks up on them very well. When they were fretting and worrying that the loan for their new house wouldn't go through, she was laying around bummed too. And then they got the phone call that the loan DID go through and they immediately were happy, and KC (the dog) immediately started bouncing around the house and being happy.. crazy, isn't it? :) Simon said of his experiences with writing: "I mean she was royally pissed, like she had been personally hurt by what I had written and went on and on about what a liar and manipulator I was, when all I had done was write a very honest and emotional account of what I had been going through." dude, that's ridiculous.. totally ridiculous.. she took offense to what *YOU* felt? hmmph. can't please everybody. :P go check out my page.. the platinumcomplication.com one in my signature.. and go to the stories section, and scroll down to the nonfiction and read my little "article" (never been published) that I wrote when I was 19 about growing up hearing impaired from birth--that goes for ALL of you guys.. go check it out.. tell me what you think. Arija said to me: "cyndi, i'm sending your money today." Got it. and you want Under The Covers, correct? Beth asked: "Does CDnow use a different sound format for their samples? Which one?" They use Real, and they use Windows Media.. I listen to it through WM more times than not. Sometimes they don't offer WM.. or sometimes they don't offer RA.. but they give you a CHOICE. our wonderful Succubus Barbie said: "I'm so evil, my knee hurts. No, that didn't make sense." well, neither does 95% of my ramblings.. I'm used to it. :D and on THAT note, I'll be seeing you pretty purple people..............*exaggerated pause inserted for dramatic... emphasis*........................................... .......................................................... ..................tomorrow. YAY!! Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford (Keyyooo on ICQ and IRC, Keyyooo1 on AIM) http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ -- http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ -- http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ -- http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=kittitude Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do. Not. Describe. Myself." ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:35:30 +1000 From: "Lavenda" <earth@comcen.com.au> To: "Strange Little Arty Turners" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Ferron I believe I got this info from here. in my head: harmless love written & performed by Ferron background vocals by Tori Amos & Nancy Shanks albums Ferron: Phantom Center Tori and best friend, Nancy Shanks (Beenie), contribute background vocals to Canadian folk singer, Ferron's, 1990 album X Lavs (Lavenda 1, primary adjunct of dominatrix Glenn) ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ Who could ever say you're not simply wonderful - 'Merman', Tori Amos ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ http://www.freewebs.com/tiarna/start.html - Tiarna's Homepage http://www.freewebs.com/drifts/start.html - Drifts Get Deeper -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:06:25 +0000 From: "Madame Ade" <alexandriasisp@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: happy days hi all! today i took my sis and neighbor to the pool. i spent 3 hours today putting labels, stickers, and stamps on stuff for my dad. standing up. the backs of my knees hurt for a while. oh well. you all read megan's side of the feast story, here's mine (cyndi persuaded me to post it so i did): last night i went to a "feast" at laura's house. i drove my dad's car, which i'm not very familiar with, but that's ok. i went to giant eagle first to snag some pringles and ramen noodles, then i went to pick up megan. we arrived at laura's at the same time as spam, and i put on the gray "lana" (the one that makes me look like a bag of wet cement or a cloud). she gave us these thingies that were basically yogurt and peaches in a cup. i'm not fond of peaches, but i ate it anyway. it was OK. then we were playing around with megan's beach ball, and we ate stuff. it was pretty good, too. then we decided to play with the beach ball some more, only we coated it with water from the froggy sprinkler thingy (i used the bird bath, and they accused me of cheating!) which made it that much more interesting. i kept kicking the ball because i was too lazy to hit it, and megan kept scolding me and grabbing my wrists and telling me to HIT the ball and i couldn't stop laughing. laura's 14-year-old, justin timberlake look-alike brother will joined us, and spam kept attacking him. when it turned dark, laura brought out candles and spam and will were being pyromaniacs and burning things. we made "mudt" (coffee and hot chocolate - mmm!) and i got 2 rides in the wheelbarrow - one from will and one from megan. i tried to give megan a ride in the wheelbarrow, but it didn't work since i'm not strong enough to push someone of her greatness. i was strong enough to tip the wheelbarrow over (accidentally!), but the wheel just wouldn't move on the grass. oh well. i let spam squirt a whipped cream smiley face on my belly (now THAT was interesting!) and then i smeared it around and it felt funny. when i washed it off with the hose, the front of my pants got soaked. laura gave us green mint jello which was kind of gross, but i suppose it was better than the mint pancakes she said she was going to make that we had to try. yuck. i flung some at megan and she tipped my chair over backwards and i had trouble getting up. heh heh heh... but anyway, when it was really late i changed and we left. when i passed the school complex (around 11 pm), megan asked if i wanted to go on the playground. i said sure, so we pulled in by the kindergarten playground. spam was behind us driving home, so she pulled in too. we hung around the playgrounds (we went to the other playground too) for a while, and i started singing "the origin of love" (from "hedwig and the angry inch") and megan got annoyed and started pushing me really high on the swings (i get kinda scared when i go too high) and then when i got off she started chasing me around (running while singing is interesting, particularly when you're so out of shape you can't run fast - oh well, megan and i run at the same speed despite our height differences). after i finished singing, spam and i mooned the senior high, then i flashed it. HAHAAAAAAAAAAA take that, franklin! wow. i feel so... rebellious? anyway, after that it was pretty late so we decided to leave. so i took megan home, then went home and went online for a while. then i went to bed. hooray. and that's my story. yes, i threw tennis balls at megan in 8th grade, 5 1/2 YEARS ago! i was finally getting over my guilt when she BROUGHT IT UP AGAIN! jeez, way to make me feel like an asshole! :) i know you're just teasing, and i'm STILL sorry (that's the 8365789912nd time i've apologized...). here cyndi, take these magic happy pills (midol): 00 now go take a nap and you'll feel better! well, off to neopets and then other stuff. bye bye! -ade *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* http://www.geocities.com/blupyglet http://www.livejournal.com/~agentfroot *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o *** Subliminal Day Off digest *** To POST messages to this list: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Can't figure out how to SUB, UNSUB, or CHANGE ADDRESSES? 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