RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #1679

RDT Right Now #1679

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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 02:22:40 -0700
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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to: <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the subject and body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 02 : Issue #1679 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o Rock for RAINN in Boston [ "David Louie" <db_louie@hotmail.com ] I'm not just not just baby pictures. [ Erika & Alan <alewis246@comcast.net ] suuuch a perfect dayyy... [ Emmanuel Caballero <spacedog@prodig ] Re: An RDTRNer birthday! (Tuesday, 7 [ "Grzegorz Pawlowski" <sup330@msn.co ] Re: An RDTRNer birthday! (Wednesday, [ "Grzegorz Pawlowski" <sup330@msn.co ] did i see a moment with you in a hal [ Matt Smith <M.S.Smith-01@student.lb ] Crazy [ "Logan, Deadra" <deadra.logan@tcb.a ] over the hill with a penguin on my b [ "Mark L. Alexander" <alexander750@e ] I HATE SLEEPING IN. [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ] Exciting SoCal RAINN Event Updates [ "Dorothy Dotson" <dor@socalrainneve ] supplies!!!! [ Emmanuel Caballero <spacedog@prodig ] cds are not indestructable [ NuttyBakerGirl <rokzane@dimensional ] [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] On July 26th in 1994, sarcastic response to a list member putting up their original YKTR for sale at $300, an article announcing that the RAINN hotline was being activated on this day, Canadian tax (for mail order), CD Connection. Also, an interview between Tori and a list member (Anthony Horan) was posted, with Tori saying about the show she had just done in Iowa: TA: Really good. The kids were great, fantastic. So open and loving, I mean it was like... they really really appreciate it. I love going to the places that don't get much live music, because they appreciate it so much, they're starving for it. In 1995, continuing the Al Stewart interview thread, responses to a query about openly homosexual groups and their fan bases, music, someone questions whether they should buy More Pink for $26 (US), a parody of God about transforming robot toys: Bandai make pretty robots, pretty robots, Ohh I gotta find, find out how on earth you, work,these, things See, them on TV Gets a little tricky, hey I gotta find, find out why the head seems to go up the robot's ass? Also, in response to a query about the best way to commit suicide, two list members independently respond with: Razors pain you; Rivers are damp. Acids stain you; And drugs cause cramp. Guns aren't lawful; Nooses give. Gas smells awful; You might as well live. - Dorothy Parker In 1998, concert experiences and reviews. In 1999, more on JFK Jr, more perversion, statutory rape, more Monkey, behaviour on list, more comments about Fanatic, and Dr Laura. [ ================================================================== ] Today's fuzzy ferret assistant: Lavenda Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 21:54:37 -0400 From: "David Louie" <db_louie@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Rock for RAINN in Boston To all the New England EWF and anyone else who'd like to venture here, I wanted to invite you all to our 2nd annual Rock for RAINN concert and Tori Birthday party. Last yearís was a great success and weíre planning on making this one bigger and better than ever. Our event is on August 22nd at the Matrix at the Roxy, 279 Tremont St., Boston, MA. Beginning at 7pm. Mark your calendars! We have some great things planned including: Performances by: Emm Gryner (Emm is amazing she's played Lilith Fair, toured with Bowie, and released a covers album with the same concept as Strange Little Girls (before SLG). Check her out if you haven't heard her stuff. There is a big crossover between Emm and Toriphiles). We also have in our lineup - Brian Webb, Rachel McCartney and The Hirsh Project. A charity auction with cool Tori and other music memorabilia including signed prints by Herb Leonhard and Pauline Stuckey (illustrators of the Tori Lyrics and Bee Sides books respectively), Bob Masse prints. Pat ìthe Doll Ladyî Kochie is also donating something special that she is custom making just for the event. We have tons of other music goodies to auction - stuff from Ani, Alanis, Dido, Melissa Etheridge (most of it signed)... Free Tori cake for Tori and a table where you can send your birthday wishes to our favorite piano player. And besides all the fun, this is a really great cause. RAINN has helped over 500,000 rape victims and really needs our help to continue operating. Tickets are $15 and the show is open to all ages. You can buy tickets online at http://boston.rainn.org or order by phone at 1-800-656-HOPE, Extension 3. Specify Boston Party 001. You can also go to our website for more details. *~~~* Rock for RAINN - http://boston.rainn.org *~~~* _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:46:47 -0400 From: Erika & Alan <alewis246@comcast.net> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: I'm not just not just baby pictures... Oh, no! I'm interesting thoughts too. Violet wondered where our opinions on the new Tori were. Well, here's mine.... dun dun dunnnnnn. Thoughts in general: I like them. Not earth shattering like LE and Pink were for me, but definitely into them. Lyrically the 6 sampler songs range from very straightforward (Amber Waves, Crazy) to cryptic, even a tad confused in a sorta fairytale (that's two songs balled into one). Sonically, it's not challenging or daring, even slightly boring in places. Pancake just ain't doing it for me. Lyrics are great, but the music, boring. Maybe I need to find a way in somehow. The rhodes is just too mellow, and I'm really beginning to realize just how much I miss the piano. A lot of the forumz people want her to being back the harpsi, but to be honest I wasn't thrilled with that either, though it did make for very interesting effect. I don't want LE again, but I miss how the piano was the core of the song, the song's heart and how everything else meshed into it. But when it was stripped down bare again it was still beautiful. Strip Crazy of the bass, guitar and drum and *snoooooooze*. But despite that, I am pleased. Amber Waves, Crazy and ASF are my fav's. I can't quite figure ASF out though. Having heard the radio edit first, the additional lyrics seem misplaced, the flow is off. I thought I had it all figured out. It was about marriage, or any long term committed relationship, and how there are times when damn it seems like it's falling apart, but you go on that trip together, or something small happens, and you remember how great it is, a sorta fairytale. Great, even if a bit bumpy. Then she goes and starts talking about needing Indian Blood and being American imposters. The music changes, he singing changes. It doesn't mesh. One part the song's bittersweet, the next cynical and sarcastic, trying to get that patriotic rush from watching some good ole Oliver Stone movies. Anyone got any insight on how the two parts meet? Am I off base on the whole thing? Crazy... well he's a cool guy. This song is definitely a guy. He's suave, sophisticated. Wild. She's not Temptation's girl anymore, she's moved on to better things. Why be just tempted when you can just savor, have and "unzip your religion down." Erika -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 01:18:28 -0500 From: Emmanuel Caballero <spacedog@prodigy.net.mx> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: suuuch a perfect dayyy... It was a great day for me. I was in the record store and suddenly, tenaciously looking through the discount singles I found a copy of *gasp* Strange Little Girl!!!! I never thought I'd find it. Even less at that price. Which goes to prove that it's not copying that derides record sales, but stores that don't know what they're putting on sale. The extra songs are amazing. Even better than the album songs. I mean, David Bowie and Alice Cooper. Wow. And then... when my day was already good, I found another sale... They Might be Giants: The Best of the Early Years. Best moronic punk ever. This was a great day. I'm a senseless capitalist pig. I rule. e. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:53:24 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Pawlowski" <sup330@msn.com> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Re: An RDTRNer birthday! (Tuesday, 7/23) Happy BirthDay George "I don't believe in baptism or waters of Jordan or anything like that, but I guess I feel about a hot bath the way those religious people feel about holy water." -Sylvia Plath, The Bell Jar http://theblue.artshost.com/ MSN - sup330@msn.com AIM - sup330aim@netscape.net YAHOO - sup330yah@yahoo.co.uk -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:53:05 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Pawlowski" <sup330@msn.com> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Re: An RDTRNer birthday! (Wednesday, 7/24) Happy Birthday George "I don't believe in baptism or waters of Jordan or anything like that, but I guess I feel about a hot bath the way those religious people feel about holy water." -Sylvia Plath, The Bell Jar http://theblue.artshost.com/ MSN - sup330@msn.com AIM - sup330aim@netscape.net YAHOO - sup330yah@yahoo.co.uk -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:38:53 +0100 (BST) From: Matt Smith <M.S.Smith-01@student.lboro.ac.uk> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: did i see a moment with you in a half-lit world? hello again world cyndi wrote: "the Indigo Girls once said, tho, "we don't mind if you get our songs off of the web as long as you come to our shows" etc.. *raises eyebrow*" i think one thing we should remember is that since the indigo girls have a contract with their record company, it's not altogether their decision whether or not to allow fans to download their music. the record company also has ownership rights over that intellectual property, and corporations are understandably (note that i don't say "rightly") much more concerned with keeping a tight rein on distribution than artists. winterlion talked about artists and self-publishing in the previous digest and i think it's an interesting topic. would all of us all around the world be such big tori fans if she had published and distributed her own work? speaking for myself, i first heard tori on national radio here in the uk and i doubt very much whether she would have got that airplay had she been publishing her own material from her bedsit in southern california. without wanting to over- generalise, i doubt that self-published material would ever have a real chance of achieving anything like the exposure that an established record company can generate, and therefore an artist's music is much less likely to reach such a wide audience. chris wrote: "crim is just a fact of life that merchantsmust deal with." please forgive the selective quoting on my part - you did raise some very interesting points about theft and its effect on prices in the same post - but i felt obliged to respond to your final point. in my view, crime (noun, "a violation of law; an act of serious moral wrongdoing") may be a fact of life, but it SHOULDN'T BE, and it's something that law makers, the judiciary and society as a whole must deal with, not just merchants. e wrote about the fragility of cds: "many of these, along the years, have become scratched beyond repair, or got broken, or a little too much heat applied to them, or what not" out of the approximately 250 cds i own, many of which i have had for the best part of a decade and which have accompanied me through university (twice) and numerous moves, not a single one has been scratched, broken or otherwise damaged in any way. i'm afraid i don't quite understand what people are doing to their cds to damage them in this way. "Screw Warner if they dont want me to copy my NIN Still CD for protection. I payed nearly 40 bucks for that cd... how much was it to produce it?? Maybe 9 cents, something like that." how much of trent's time and creative energy did it take to write the album? how much studio time was needed to record and mix the album? how many technicians' and engineers' salaries had to be paid? how much did it cost to design the packaging? how much to market the album and get it into record stores and onto the airwaves? the cost of physically manufacturing a cd may be miniscule, but the initial cost of creating a musical work is enormous. "REM is a good example because they are the band with the best record deal ever. When they joined Warner, each one of the members was paid a ridiculous amount of 20 million." and if i had $20 million in the bank, i probably wouldn't mind missing out on a few bucks here and there either. the point is thst these large sums are paid to artists in exchange for allowing the record companies to control the artists' intellectual property - like i said at the beginning of this post, the artists relinquish a degree of control over their IP and therefore aren't the only people who have a say in what happens to their work. i don't want to sound like i'm ragging on you, e (or anyone else for that matter), because you wrote a great post and made some fine points, but there are some things i just don't understand or agree with, that's all. i wish i had some more uplifting, life-affirming stuff to write about but i'm in the middle of listening to portishead's second album and it's killed off any positive thoughts i might have had for the next few months.... see ya matt ---------- "Le coeur a ses raisons, que la raison ne connaÓt point." Blaise Pascal, "PensÈes" -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 14:10:17 -0500 From: "Logan, Deadra" <deadra.logan@tcb.aecom.com> To: Tori List <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Crazy I went to a Tori Meet Up on Tuesday, and I was really pissed off: No one showed up. I drove for an hour to get there just to sit there by myself. I just bought Blood Roses off of ebay today *yay* Can't wait to get that one. I got 5 other songs today from Starlet's Walk. I am totally LOVING IT!!! If anyone wants the link, just let me know. It's only valid for the next couple of days. Thanks to Lavs for sending the url about TVAB. I always wondered where those were from. On the whole downloading thing, I download Tori songs but I also buy every Tori cd that I can get my hands on. It is a giant pain in the arse to change a cd every time I want to listen to a specific song. Dancing Girl -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 14:24:02 -0500 From: "Mark L. Alexander" <alexander750@earthlink.net> To: "Amos, not Spelling!" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: over the hill with a penguin on my back... -- First a big "thank you" to all those who sent birthday greetings...yes, even Koba. ;-> At long last I'm getting a new--er, newER--computer: a used Beige G3 (aka Gossamer). Not a lot faster, really, but a lot more capable. The old Power 100 will be up for sale soon, Linux and all. Which was not all it was advertised to be, but then (a) it was never intended to run on a Mac at all and (b) most certainly not on this one; unlike a standard PC the use of Linux on these antiques is considered bleeding-edge. I've been informed that I'm probably the first to attempt drafting a formal HOWTO. The "new" machine will run Linux just fine out of the box, unless of course I want to use OS X. Which I could. I've been told it's like trying to run Windows XP on a 486. Fun-o. Caffeine, too, is starting to show his age. After a routine teeth-cleaning appointment turned into a series of increasingly expensive tests (an echcardiogram, angiogram, stress test, and MRI...for a *cat*?!?) I was informed he most likely has the beginnings of heart problems. Ouch. Now for new business..._Scarlett's Walk_ will be on my list, even though I've not heard any of it (and don't really want to, yet). As for airplay around here, forget it: with the singular exception of our local NPR outlet and a few smallish church-owned stations (mostly on AM), every last frequency on the dial belongs to either Clear Channel (the national soon-to-be-monopoly) or Cumulus (the local soon-to-be-monopoly). As a result I don't even bother with radio, except for NPR. I'm even considering throwing in the towel and getting Sirius. It's that bad. As for Napster, I did use it, and I did get some "free" music (about two hours' worth)...all of which was long since out of print: unless the stuff is re-released, the artists (or, in many cases, their estates) have already got all the money they will ever get from the material in question. The only way I could own the originals would be to purchase them from a collector. No royalties involved there. You think SonyMusic (Epic) or T.W.A.T. (Atlantic) will re-release "Baltimore" or YKTR? Dream on. And if they *are* re-released, I'll buy them and destroy the MP3s. Other stuff on the list includes the LOTR and Amelie DVDs, more car stuff including the much-needed repainting, and, oh yeah, a new job. Did I mention the smell of pepperoni is starting to make me ill? The smell of pepperoni is starting to make me ill. Estraven. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:39:59 -0400 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: I HATE SLEEPING IN. Nobody woke me up today, so what did I do? I slept until 2:30. wheeeee... anyway.. hello everybody! :) Brad said: "I think Koba is a great lawyer. When the chips are down, he could strike up a marching band and distract the jury. Sort of like when my cousin vinnie put vava voom on the stand. Man is she ever in my minds eye as being the hottiest ever in that movie." rofl I remember that movie, I looooove that movie! it was so funny.. and my mom says it's a cute movie.. and it's so full of swearing too! funny how that works out, huh? I asked Lavs if she was bringing a laptop along when she went into labor and she said: "Frell! The Oztorians want webcam and now you guys want blow by blow messages??? If it's anything like last time a very detailed birth story will be posted a few days after the birth (btw, Tiarna's birthstory can be found in the archive section of her website), and that will just have to do you. :)" eh, well.. good enough. :D Lavs then said: "Hmm. Spell Checker wants to change 'Cyndi' to 'cyanide'. heeheehee" ah that's just cuz I'm POISON, baby! :D lol seriously.. once, my aunt sent me an email and instead of "Cyndi" at the beginning, it said cyanide.. yeesh.. you'd think they hate me or something. o_O Matt told us a little story about VINYL: "once upon a time there was a thing called "vinyl" which was really fragile, it would shatter if you dropped it, warp if you left it in the sun, scratch if you mistreated it and other such nasty things as that." I remember once I got this vinyl thing when I was like 7.. from church.. sunday school to be exact.. I'd left it on the dashboard of the car and the next thing I knew, I had a dashboard-shaped piece of shit on my hands. I went back to the church to whine about it and they gave me another record.. hell, I don't remember if I ever DID listen to that thing.... *shrug* Matt then said: "now we have cds, which are to vinyl what steel rope is to spider web - virtually indestructible. and yet we're scared to play them in modern, sanitised cd players because we think they might get damaged?" THEY CAN!!! trust me, THEY CAN! they'll get scratched! and when they get scratched ,what happens? "l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l *WHACK!* LAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!" that. Matt then asked: "....it seems to me like there must be some loss of quality during the "ripping" and "burning". are we honestly saying that we prefer to listen to our music at a reduced quality level rather than taking a virtually non-existent risk that our original cd might somehow get damaged?" if you do it enough times--rip from the CD-R you burned to and then burn it to another and do it from THAT CD-R and so on, then yes, you'll start noticing that the quality has gone down.. but from the original to the first CD-R or from the original to a second CD-R.. no, you won't notice. That's the beauty of it all. Bethany said: "i think it was e that said he hated the end of Fight Club...just wanted to ask why. I think it's a brilliant ending, made all the better by that Pixies song." I totally TOTALLY agree--but when you compare that to the ending in the book, well.. e's right. COMPARING ONLY WITH THE BOOK... the movie ending is a bit disappointing.. e: did you read the book first by any chance?? Chris said: "Oh..btw..Cyndi...I agree with your commends on precious things...but I always applied that to "Honey" as well..." hmmmm.... I haven't heard that yet..I mean I have not heard the not-live version (I've got a fan/friend hooking me up with B-sides and concert show CDs, etc.. YAY!).. but hey that's kewl that you agree with my ramble about Precious Things sounding like a furious downpour of rain. :) I can seriously think of the deeper notes that come in while the high notes still play their intro notes.. as thunder.. "ba-rrooom!" "tinkle-tink-tinkle-tink-tink-tinkle-tinkle..." rofl.. I'm crazy. e said: "many of these, along the years, have become scratched beyond repair, or got broken, or a little too much heat applied to them, or what not." THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Beth said to Daniel about Cyndi Lauper: "Also - I'm glad you liked my interview, but I never got to meet Cyndi Lauper. We talked on the phone. It was great; like talking to an old friend." dude.. I'd love to get to talk to Cyndi Lauper on the phone! :P Okay.. it's nearly 4PM and I'm still in my pajamas. LATER! :) Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford (Keyyooo on ICQ and IRC, Keyyooo1 on AIM) http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ -- http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ -- http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ -- http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=kittitude Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do. Not. Describe. Myself." ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:44:56 -0500 (CDT) From: "Dorothy Dotson" <dor@socalrainnevent.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Exciting SoCal RAINN Event Updates Hi there! I'm writing to spread the word about the upcoming SoCal RAINN Event, a benefit concert and silent auction for RAINN that's happening August 13th in Los Angeles. We've got some big announcements-- tickets are on sale, and we've confirmed our headlining act. Please look over our press release and feel free to visit our web page and sign up for our mailing list for further updates. Also, we still need lots of help getting the word out about the event, so let us know if you can lend a hand or visit http://www.socalrainnevent.com/help.html for more info. To locate a party in your area, visit http://birthday.rainn.org. <b>FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: </b>2nd Annual SoCal RAINN Event, benefit concert/silent auction, raises funds for the Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network MEDIA CONTACT: Dorothy Dotson at (310) 463-5698 or dor@socalrainnevent.com WEBSITE: http://www.socalrainnevent.com July 17th, 2002 <b>HOLLYWOOD, CAó </b>The Second Annual Southern California RAINN Event is being held August 13th at 8:00 to raise funds for the Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network (RAINN) with a benefit concert and silent auction. The event takes place at Sixteen-Fifty (formerly Vynyl), at 1650 Schrader Blvd in Hollywood, California. The evening will feature performances by Sheila Nicholls, Sacha Sacket, Girls Guitar Club, and Rebekah del Rio (known for her acclaimed performance of a Spanish-language version of Roy Orbisonís ìCryingî in the film Mulholland Drive). Ticket-holders can participate in a silent auction including items donated from over 100 world-renown designers, retailers and corporations such as Fred Segal, Built By Wendy, OP, McFarlane Toys, Hot Topic, Sam Ash, as well as The House of Blues, The Laugh Factory, Hyatt, The Standard, Luxe Hotel Rodeo Drive, Southwest Airlines and L.A. Fitness. The auction also features memorabilia donated by The Offspring, The Indigo Girls, Heather Nova, Remy Zero, The White Stripes, and more. Every two minutes, someone in America is the victim of a sexual assault. Statistics show that only about 28% of all rapes are reported. Since its inception, RAINN has helped over 500,000 people to ìunlock the silenceî. RAINN, recently named one of ìAmericaís Best 100 Charitiesî by Worth magazine, was founded in 1994 by singer Tori Amos, herself a survivor of sexual assault. Tickets for the Second Annual SoCal RAINN Event are $22 in advance and $25 at the door. They are available through all Ticketmaster locations, or online at http://www.socalrainnevent.com. Dorothy Dotson www.socalrainnevent.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:37:31 -0500 From: Emmanuel Caballero <spacedog@prodigy.net.mx> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: supplies!!!! That is just a stupid punchline from a vey stupid joke. What I meant was replies: matt talked about the indestructability of CD's compared to vinyl. I don't know what kind of cd's you're being Matty Boy, but mine are just as destructible as any vinyl record I ever owned. Sure, they dont bend so easily in the heat of a window, for example, but try this: grab a glass of water and pour just a few drops on the cd... bye bye music. Leave the cd close ( not even right next ) to a source of heat, ie, a lightbulb or a candle... bye bye music. Or what about just putting it on a stereo with just a little bit too much flint in it. Bye bye music. I have another one: Put a greasy finger on the readable surface and magically forget its there... leave it a couple of days hanging around on your cd... you guessed it, bye bye music. Hell, step on one, lend it to someone who isnt as obsessive as us ( me, at least ) in taking care of cds, I've even lost cds to them simply falling off the case and breaking from the fall. Also, when you rip a cd to mp3s, you can decide on the bitrate you want them to download. This goes from 92 kbps up to 256. The normal coding for cd quality is 128. Compression IS needed to rip unto mp3 and back again into a readable cd-r, but if you keep the bitrate high, your humanly defective ears will never know the difference. When dealing with mp3s ripped at 160 kbps, not even commercial headphones know it. So yeah, I prefer taking a burnt disc on the road than take the original cd, which if by means of God got damaged, i'd have to buy it again. That's just plain cruel seeing the state the world is in. and an Arab Strap is a strap which is Arabic. bethany then asked why I didnt like the ending to Fight Club. Hmmm... I don¥t know really. The scene with the buildings exploding and crumbling is fantastic, but I just felt like it was such a slowdown from the way the whole movie was directed. It's another example of a hollywood convention placed on an unconventional movie just so people ( i wonder what kind of people were still expecting a surprise by that point ) would understand the movie. I hate to be paternalised like that in storytelling. We get it, they're the same person, get on with it. I still love the movie. Speaking of which, I've always wanted to try High Fidelity's Top 5 idea... what about a Movie Top 5 people? I think these are mine( and i'm open to sugegstions ): 1) Mulholland Drive 2) Eyes Wide Shut 3) Requiem for a Dream 4) The War Zone 5) Los Amantes del Circulo Polar ( The Lovers of the Artic Circle, spanish movie ) say o'narah! e. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 22:36:16 -0600 From: NuttyBakerGirl <rokzane@dimensional.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: cds are not indestructable Matt wrote: "now we have cds, which are to vinyl what steel rope is to spider web - virtually indestructible. and yet we're scared to play them in modern, sanitised cd players because we think they might get damaged?" It's been my personal experience, during my 15 years of owning CDs, that they are still very easily scratched. I can't even count the number of CDs that I've owned that have become too scratched up to listen to that I have to replace them in less than a year. Alot of the damage comes from cheap CD players. My first copy of Boys for Pele with the original version of Talulah suffered this fate after a year of ownership. I couldn't listen to half of the CD, including Talulah. Now, how am I supposed to replace that? Copies with the original version are no longer released. I really wish that I had a CD burner back then so that I would have at least had a copy. _____________________________ I was fired from the bakery that was working at about 5 weeks ago (long, horrible story), so now I'm working 3rd shift for Panera Bread. I like it, and at least I have benefits now. Living for a year without medical insurance is really scary. I turned 24 on Monday, and I had a nice day. Roxanne o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o *** Time Flies Like An Arrow, Fruit Flies Like A Banana digest *** To POST messages to this list: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Can't figure out how to SUB, UNSUB, or CHANGE ADDRESSES? 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