RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #1725

RDT Right Now #1725

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Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 01:43:48 -0700
Subject: RDT Right Now #1725
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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to: <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the subject and body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 02 : Issue #1725 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o Violet will appreciate this. [ CruelGrl18@aol.com ] aaaaaaack!!!! [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ] a sorta fairytale [ "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlif ] Re: RDT Right Now #1724 [ arija <arija.weddle@yale.edu> ] woooooooo! [ "Madame Ade" <alexandriasisp@hotmai ] face tied together with three times [ Succubus Megan <Abulia@imaterrorist ] writing available [ "John Bragazzi" <wasserman@operamai ] nostalgia [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ] [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] On October 5th in 1992, Anthony does a survey to find out which countries are represented in the subscribership of RDT. In 1994, numerous reports that Tori was ill. She had left the stage during the Madison show on October 4th and was wheeled out on a gurney to a waiting ambulance. In 1998, Tori on The Roseanne Show, a quilt for Tori, In 1999, everyone excited about listening to TVAB. In 2000, books people are reading, we love Steve Buscemi. [Interesting only to me: in 2001, I (Violet) had the flu, and I have the flu now. Like clockwork.] [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] On October 6th in 1992, "Are there any fans of Sandman on this list? Anyone know more about the connection between Tori and Neil?" A couple of cute messages with some details about a Dutch TV interview with Tori. In 1993, a member weighs in on one of Tori's videos, saying: I have an attention span greater than 2 seconds, which is why I'm not fond of the 'Crucify' video. It was very obviously aimed for MTv consumption. In 1994, more reports of Tori being ill in Madison, among them that she had been experiencing chest pains, was clutching her chest several times during the performance, and collapsed in Joel's arms backstage. Official sources report that Tori had suffered an acute case of costrochondritis, an inflammation of the muscles and cartilage of the chest wall. (Costrochondritis is not uncommon, most people experience mild cases of it at some point, but severe cases can be very alarming and painful.) After an examination, doctors said she would be okay to continue the tour, but they would keep a close eye on her condition while on the road. At the next show (October 5th in Milwaukee), a fan asked Joel how Tori was doing; he said she was feeling better, but was tired and felt horrible that she had left the Madison show after only an hour. (For added interest, Michael Stipe was at both of these shows, and he and Tori spent the day in Milwaukee together working on the song for "Don Juan de Marco and the Centerfold.") In 1996, Father Lucifer on Letterman, the Good Times virus (hoax, or evil genius?). Also, Stupid Tori Jokes (my favorite being): What does Tori say before surgery? "Yes, Anaesthesia!" In 1997, after several members express sadness at the loss of the long-time list name "Really Deep Thoughts" and others say they would like to keep the name of the temporary list "Thoughts Right Now," a poll is taken on what the permanent list name should be (back to Really Deep Thoughts, stay Thoughts Right Now, or be combined as Really Deep Thoughts Right Now). Also, a lovely Alice Walker piece is posted. In 1998, what makes a good single, "teenyboppers," violence completely ruins a Tori show for an RDTRNer (Subject: one week later, I think I can finally write about this), In 1999, some deep thoughts about TVAB. [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] On October 7th in 1992, frictions between the up-and-coming fanzine and fan club. In 1993, some comments from Andrew Eldritch (Sisters of Mercy) on Tori in Q magazine. Among them: "This woman just sits at the piano and sings, basically. And she can do it all perfectly. She's incapable of playing a wrong note or singing a bum note, and she can throw her voice around, but sensibly, like you wouldn't believe. It just reeks of class. And it's very intelligent stuff. Most records that sound like this are usually pig awful; it's like the worst side of Melanie. The songs on it are great." In 1994, a Milwaukee Journal article on Tori falling ill in Madison and being seen lunching with Michael Stipe the next day at a trendy Milwaukee eatery. The article also reports that Tori planned to spend a couple of days in Milwaukee working on the Don Juan song with Michael. In 1995, two interesting interviews ("The Tori Papers #2: Tori and Kennedy" and "The Tori Papers #3: 'Name Your Adventure'"). In 2000, "I have the heart of a child...," fun Olympic memories, In 2001, oh, how we love the "Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee!" song. Still. http://www.frashii.com/Weeee.swf To read more about these items, visit the list archives. [ ================================================================== ] Today's fuzzy ferret assistant: Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 08:47:23 -0400 From: CruelGrl18@aol.com To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Violet will appreciate this. I don't know if you guys have seen this or not but I just ran across it while looking at my friend's paintball forums.. I really thought Violet and the peep kids would get a kick out of it. http://www.keypad.org/bunnies/ I'm alive, really! -Elisha http://sirengrrri.livejournal.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 15:25:38 -0400 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: aaaaaaack!!!! I am so bloody behind on these RDTRNs that it's not even funny! ugh. well aside from the suicide (gee that rhymes) that occurred the night before my birthday, my actual birthday was really quite calm. :) First, I woke up, got the bad news, and then went to the liquor store to buy myself a bottle of peppermint schnapps.. then I went by Kroger cuz I wanted to cash my checks from my grandmothers.. they didn't let me cuz I don't have an account with them, blah.. so I went and grabbed a bottle of wine.. Arbor Mist brand White Zinfandel. delish. THEN I went back home and ranted to my friends (you guys and others) about the suicide vs me partying.. and then my mom came home, I gave her the news, and then we waited for Deanna, Ben, Kenneth and Connie to come home so that the six of us could go out to eat hot wings. nummyyy.. :) thennnnn.. I rode in Kenneth and Connie's convertible to Publix and we got me ice cream and cake.. and then my mom met us at Kenneth and Connie's house to eat said ice cream and cake. I swear, that cake tastes better now than it did on the first day! o_O... and thennnnnnnn I went home.. opened the bottle of wine, and sipped on it. after I finished that, I opened the bottle of peppermint schnapps and sipped on that while chatting with some friends. :) and by the way, today (Saturday) is the day of Randy's funeral and my mom and dad are at it. I stayed home to watch Bailey until Ben and Deanna woke up. also--thanks for the birthday wishes everybody! yay! :) all right.. now.. ON WITH THE REPLIES! Beth sent us an url of a really cute flash of a Led Zeppelin song.. too cute! lol.. Jessica said: "cyndi, i wouldn't take my dad to tori because he thinks she's a whiny bitch. :D lol." well geesh.. he's missing out! Chris said about that article where the reviewer suggested that maybe Tori *deserved* her rape: "It was nice of you to suggest that Tori deserved rape though, if that's what you were saying...shithead." man.. ya know, we're all thinking that the guy who said that crap.. needs some mental help. :D Linda: YAY on your skydiving experience! :) Simon said to me: "if john bobbit had lived 200 years ago, a wood pecker might have been what would have ended up with after that "incident"." and boy would the girls love it.. *rolls eyes* Simon then said: "taking a wild guess about Cyndi's halloween costume, I'd say one of the characters from either Grand Theft Auto or SSX Tricky ;)" nope and nope! here's a hint: BLUE!!!!!!!! blue blue blue blue blue!! and lots of hair gel and hair spray and mousse (and no I'm not going as an 80's new wave punker.. it IS from a video game tho. ;) ) --next digest-- The retro mentioned people asking what Mark thinks of Tori singing "Song For Eric".. well.. I dunno. I wonder how he feels about Tori singing the songs off of Boys For Pele as they have to do with Eric and other men and stuff. :D The retro then said: "In 1998, folks tackling the question of why it is that most Toriphiles are also NIN fans (especially when the opposite doesn't seem to be true)." well, I couldn't tell ya, but I discovered NIN first before I discovered Tori, so.. :) Julie said of her "I'm not in love" man: "Some people are really mentally retarded, he likes to use that as an insult. That's another one of his big flaws. As I listened to him talk, I'm still noticing and very aware that he is a jerk, and very ignorant, but for some reason my strange heart still feels for him...I don't understand." Infatuation sounds more like what you're grappling with here. Infatuation tends to make people be like "oh he's so great. Sure, sure, he's a jerk, he's an alcoholic, he's a womanizer, but he's soooooo cute! I think I like him!" as for love, I don't think I've experienced that yet SO I don't think I have any room to explain THAT yet. Brian on why men like 'em shaved: "Why do men like the short and curlies shaved off? Same reason. Rash from the bearded oyster." bearded oyster.. interesting way to put it. lol.. Brian then explained about Melbourne being the anus of the world and then Tasmania being the pubic hairs of the world. interesting. so what does that make Florida's panhandle? :D --next digest-- Good luck with your job interview, Beth! Julie, good luck dealing with whoever is calling you up to harass you--you don't deserve that kind of treatment, by golly. :P annnnnd good luck singing 1,000 oceans! :) --next digest-- Ade said of her "Sex and Gender" book: "it's an intro to psych class. that class just plain rocks. today we were talking about biological sex, conception, genetics, etc., and this girl in my class has XO chromosomes! so cool!" XO chromosomes? wuzzat?? Ade then said in reply to my "holy testicle tuesday" exclamation: "holy testicle tuesday? LOL... wow, that's great... it should be a new holiday!" thank whoever wrote the script for Ace Ventura 1 and had that put in. :D Ade then said: "cyndi, sorry to hear about the suicide :( but don't let it pee on your parade, go have fun!" oh, believe me, I did. I feel like it was an act of defiance, ESPECIALLY since Randy killed himself IN FRONT OF HIS WIFE which was what made me so furious. I'd have been a teensy bit less ready to party on my bday if he'd been alone when it happened. and well.. it's time for me to go eat some more leftover cake, on that note! fwee! later! Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/368/ciara_blaze.html -- http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ -- http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ -- http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ -- http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=kittitude Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do. Not. Describe. Myself." ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 16:33:41 -0700 From: "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlife@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: a sorta fairytale I heard the song on the radio today. rosy 105 for anyone in oregon...i don't know what to think...i liked the end though. i heard the last two minutes of the song...*ponders* yeah, we just got our asses whooped by ucla. *cries* -jessica "I love you all. I love you more than life itself but you're fucking mad." --Ozzy to Jack Ozzy: What are you eating? Jack: Ribs. Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaahh. Ozzy: I want my baby back baby baby back baby back baby back! _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 20:29:03 -0400 From: arija <arija.weddle@yale.edu> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Re: RDT Right Now #1724 >it's an intro to psych class. that class just plain rocks. today we were >talking about biological sex, conception, genetics, etc., and this girl in >my class has XO chromosomes! so cool! why is that cool? that means she has Turner syndrome and she's sterile. i dont think thats too cool. has anyone been to the museum of the city of new york's exhibit on september 11? it's art done by children ages 5-18 in the aftermath of the attacks. i went into nyc today for the purpose of visiting this musuem, because i have to do a paper in my Anthropology of the Object class on a museum exhibit. i was totally blown away by this one, though. it was incredible; art on the walls depicting the attacks, the emotional responses, the heros, memorials, and the future. in addition, there was a space on the floor sectioned off where children could construct a city out of blocks, and a table where they could make replicas of the trade centers and the pentagon, etc. it was the most amazing thing. i even bought the book from the gift shop that included the pictures from the exhibit and commentary from nyu child study center president, president of the museum, and rudy giuliani. the exhibit is called "The Day Our World Changed". it's up until january 2003, so if you have a chance, please go look at it. also, i'm looking for a long black dress. any ideas where i should look? i've checked windsor online and bluefly.com, as well as victoria's secret. i have a very specific look in mind (quite carrie from satc) but at this point will take just about anything. also, found a coat in a thrift store on st. marks today that i am now kicking myself for not having bought. suede coat with furlined sleeves and neck. it was $125 and they're selling almost the same one in urban outfitters for $158. stupid stupid. also, i'm seeing tori on 11/16 in conn. and 11/17 in providence. anyone going to those shows? -arija -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 01:27:05 +0000 From: "Madame Ade" <alexandriasisp@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: woooooooo! i just returned from a concert at the pride ally house on campus. everyone, go to www.erichiman.com, because eric himan is awesome! he's a super musician, he's really nice, he's cute, and HE LIKES TORI!!!!! before playing one of his songs he was talking about playing after some guy who had the tori amos piano thing going on, and he loves tori but he didn't like the guy playing. when he said he loved tori, i said "yeah!" and since i was sitting about 3 feet away from him (he played outside the house until it got really cold, so he moved to the living room) he smiled and said "ah, we have another tori fan here." afterwards, when i was buying one of his cds, we talked about tori, and he said he wants to do a cover of one of her songs, but he's unsure of it because he wants to do her justice. he used to do "baker baker" apparently. he wants me to send him my thoughts of "scarlet's walk" when it comes out so he'll know to buy it. and he's the same as me - his favorite tori album is little earthquakes and his second favorite is under the pink. when he signed my cd, he wrote "ade, thanks for listening and keep listening to tori!" heeeeee, i love eric. he's such a great guy and singer! go, listen to his music! now! www.erichiman.com! in other news, today was "make a difference day" and i went with a group to this nice old lady's house and we did chores and stuff for her. i took a really long nap this afternoon. yay. goodbye. -ade *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* http://www.geocities.com/blupyglet http://www.livejournal.com/~agentfroot *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 18:32:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Succubus Megan <Abulia@imaterrorist.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: face tied together with three times used strings Hola mes amies! I'm listening to Rasputina (everyone! Buy "How We Quit The Forest"! Now!) after looking at a professional photographer's vision of gothic girls and victorian faeries! Ohhhhhh I'm in such a mood! Never was there a mood such as this! It's Saturday Night and I ain't got nobody to call my own...which means more time to do my godawful immitation of dancing! Pray that you never see me dance. It would make you feel wrong. Very, very wrong. Actually, "dancing" isn't really the right word. Maybe "Spasm-like movements with lots of kicking". Or "bad badness". Hehe. I should take dance class. Then I could make the teacher cry after witnessing my techniques...or lack thereof. The photos I was looking at which I found to be so inspirational can be seen here: http://www.necrobabes.org/darkfairies/main2.htm Pretty pretty pretty! I want their look! Yay! I'm the one disgruntled teen in the world that hasn't gone through a goth phase! I want my goth phase, dammit! How Now, Brown Cow? Megan Christine Auffart *************************************** I never saw a Purple Cow, I never hope to see one; But I can tell you anyhow, I'd rather see than be one! --- Gelett Burgess (1866-1951) *************************************** http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/abulia/ _____________________________________________________________ Sign up for FREE insane email from tshirthell.com's E-Mail Hell at http://www.tshirthell.com _____________________________________________________________ Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get you@yourchoice.com w/No Ads, 6MB, POP & more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 10:14:04 +0800 From: "John Bragazzi" <wasserman@operamail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: writing available I'm starting to post some new texts on the web at http://www.u-town.com/text. Hope you like them. As B/4, John -------------------- "An artist is someone who produces things that people don't need to have but that he--for some reason--thinks it would be a good idea to give them." --Andy Warhol -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 17:06:20 -0400 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> To: jessikacrawford@hotmail.com, george.crawford@juno.com, ambie19@aol.com, candi4545@mcloudteleco.com, torandnan@juno.com, precious0147@yahoo.com, acrowd49@aol.com, jcoffman@taurus.oursc.k12.ar.us, kimplicity@hotmail.com, mleonard55@cox.net, chelleball32@hotmail.com, mindyboo20@aol.com, mjcentral@hotmail.com, mjfansreunion@yahoogroups.com, Spyderchan2@cs.com, rdtrn@torithoughts.org, royha@deepfrost.com, bluasice@onebox.com, GLPdoug@MSN.com, sparker1@pdq.net Subject: nostalgia There is something strangely comforting about having a teddy bear's rear end propped against my ear while it plays "Teddy Bear's Picnic" over and over from the music box implanted into it.. Methinks that this is because that's what I used to do with my teddy bear (which I still have of course) when I was two until I was maybe eight. very comforting indeed. I JUST finished stitching Boy (my bear) up after putting his new music box in. It's been soooooo long since he had one in him that I feel like I'm four again. (I don't remember being two or three, even tho I know I got Boy when I was two..) On November 31, Boy will be nineteen years old to me--and of course this doesn't count however many months/weeks/days he sat on the shelf at whatever toy store my dad got him at and then the days/weeks spent in the toy factory being made and stuffed before spending days/hours in a big ol' shipping truck, etc--because that was, to my understanding, the day my dad came home from a trip, gave my brother and sister a present (if I recall the story correctly) and pulled Boy out of his bag/box, wound up the music box, and held him out to me which caused little two-year-old me to run up, crawl into my dad's lap, grab Boy and hold his rear end to my ear while listening to the music repeatedly. From then on, Boy and I were just about literally inseparable. He was my carry-on (or stashed into my carry-on bag) when I'd get onto airplanes to fly to visit relatives, I'd bring him to school every chance I could, I'd pack him with my books to read for long car trips (even if they were only day trips), and so on. Even when I got to the stage in my life where I didn't NEED to haul him around all the time anymore, he has ALWAYS stayed on my bed, and strangely enough, even as an ADULT, when thunderstorms have startled me from being able to sleep (they sure do seem to like coming at the wrong times..), I've always groped around in the dark for Boy and held onto him, and felt better from doing that. Recently, (especially this past year) I've been scouring the net as best as I can to track down where Boy was made, for two reasons: one, to buy a duplicate for my niece Bailey, and two, to just be able to know where Boy came from--sort of like someone who was adopted trying to track down his or her mother. So far, no luck, but my grandmother found a little white bear that she thinks looks like Boy, and bought it to send to me and give to Bailey. I figure that this is at least a step in the right direction, and even if it isn't, I'm sure Bailey will love the bear anyway. Either way, I'm just hoping that I can find out the whereabouts of Boy's creator. Even if I never find out, I can at least say I tried. I love nostalgia. Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do. Not. Describe. Myself." o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o *** Sharpened Up For A Bit Of The Old Ultraviolence digest *** To POST messages to this list: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Can't figure out how to SUB, UNSUB, or CHANGE ADDRESSES? Send a message to <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "help" as the subject. Digest PROBLEMS or QUESTIONS? Contact: <admin@torithoughts.org> Want your BIRTHDAY announced on RDTRN in 2002? 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